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Join us for a spirited episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast as we engage in a lively discussion with Mike from Beautiful Golf Courses. Ever wondered why golf course rankings can be as subjective as music tastes? We're breaking down the art and challenge of reviewing golf courses, addressing the criticism we've faced, and the nuances that influence our ratings. From the importance of practice facilities for traveling golfers to the peculiarities of course conditions affecting standings, we promise an honest look at what goes into our rankings and why some courses, like Conestoga, have unexpectedly climbed the list.

Explore the dynamics of golf pricing with us as we compare the costs of playing in Las Vegas and Wisconsin. Discover the impact of COVID-19 on golf demand and how it has led to fluctuating rates, much like Uber's surge pricing. With a candid assessment of local discounts and the short golfing season in Wisconsin, we dive into the factors that make courses like Paiute Golf Resort consistently stand out despite booking challenges. We'll also reveal our personal favorites, including Rio Secco and Conestoga, and share surprising anecdotes from our golfing adventures.

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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.

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We've got a packed house here for you tonight.

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This is the we're Defending Our Honor episode.

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We've taken some criticism, We've taken some heat from our ranking show, and so we thought why not bring on one of the best and biggest Instagram accounts that covers golf courses in America, Mike from Beautiful Golf Courses.

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Welcome to the show, sir.

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How are you doing this evening?

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Thanks, Matt, yeah, it's good to be here.

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Thanks for having me Apologize to the viewers a little bit of a face for radio here, but I'm here, so fun to be here.

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You're giving me a lot of praise.

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I'm not sure how expert I am at golf course reviews, but uh, yeah I.

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I looked at all of yours and I'll say that as someone who does a lot of traveling golf that doesn't live in Vegas, I thought my ratings would be a lot different.

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Um, but actually using your numeric ratings and kind of your objective kind of system, they were pretty similar when considering everything.

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And then you take.

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You know there's four of us and the most accurate reviews are the ones that all four of us have played.

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There are some courses that only a few of us have played.

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The numbers are a little skewed but not much.

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Um, you know, falcon ridge, I kind of gave it a big hit and that affected it a little bit.

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Um, joe and dan are the only two that have played summit.

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So you know, jeremy, and my perspective is probably going to enhance that one a little bit and bring it up a few spots, but I think for the most part it's it's not bad.

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You know, we, we did get.

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Uh, let's see, uh mo roms, uh, this list is bananas, clowns we got clowns yeah clowns was a good one lots of clowns uh, I forgot to wear my campaign tonight.

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Yeah, yeah we were told to be real.

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Um los prados hate.

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I mean a lot of lost prodos hate.

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Um joe says you know, it's a great fun track to play.

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But somebody said, uh, not if the greens are seven, which?

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Means the course is it down so?

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yeah, I mean golf, golf review, golf opinions.

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I mean, everyone's got an opinion.

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They, they're all different.

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It's almost like music, yeah, what you prefer, what you don't prefer.

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You know a lot of the ratings for I think, of course, like Valley High or Falcon Ridge, even like they get booted down pretty far because their practice ranges are either lacking or awful.

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Valley High charges $400 for a round and $85 for a box of Pro V1s.

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Like that's not good value, yeah.

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If you don't care about that, then Valley High might be a really good course and you ignore the planes that fly over every two seconds.

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But it's just.

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You know, having what?

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Did you guys have Seven categories, I think?

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Yeah, I mean, it's a well-rounded review, it's not.

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You know, this course is really fun to play period.

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No, it's.

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You know a lot of different things that people consider.

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If you don't care about a range, then you know, maybe some of these courses are a lot better for you.

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But, um, yeah, I thought your system was well-rounded and and, to be honest, uh, looking at everything, it was pretty congruent with what I think too.

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So I I mean, that's the thing we're, we're vegas locals, we've we've played all the courses and we're we're going to play these courses as if it's your local course, right?

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So it's like those things matter when it's in your city.

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So you know, maybe, maybe next year we remove some of that.

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But you know, but I, I think well, if I'm going to travel, having the aspects of you know, we have, uh, not a huge audience.

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We got a decent size audience and it's vastly across the country.

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And you know, when people, especially on instagram and so when people see the list and they read it and then they listen to the episode and wonder why they may go, oh shit, I was going to book there.

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Now I'm not.

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I wasn't going to book at National, but now I might, you know.

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So there are things you know.

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People see the closeness of Ballet High to the Strip.

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Oh, I'm going to book there, but they may not know, because I really don't think Ballet High is touting the awesomeness of their practice area.

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So, when they show up, you know and oh, if they are a grinder and they got to warm up, you know they might not know that there's no real practice area Like we're giving it to you, real as locals.

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So when we went to, before we were going to band and before that we had that, that workshop with elevate and Brad Thompson was there and we were talking about, you know, being stiff and getting the course and loosen up, and he's like, yeah, the the worst thing to do to play golf is have like a two hour drive.

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I said, oh, how about a two hour layover, a two hour flight, a four hour drive, hour drive, how about that?

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He's like, yeah, no, yeah, a lot of people are coming here that are on planes for four or five hours and renting cars and spending time right.

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Then they get to the course.

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They're like, all right, I'm gonna go warm up.

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What?

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yeah, totally, what is?

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this so I mean, I like having that, the, the.

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I think I think a practice area is a very important aspect of a golf course.

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Yeah, it's, it's.

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It's a small figure on our scale, you know.

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The the we take 70 percent of the score is golf course related and the practice facility is part of that yeah I mean, you take the practice

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facility off the course would be way different.

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Yeah, and I don't know that a lot of people called out pricing, but I feel like our pricing is relative to an out-of-towner's pricing, like if it's expensive for an out-of-towner, it's going to be on the higher end for us too.

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Obviously, you know cheaper.

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But yeah, I totally agree.

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I mean it's just hard because people I think for the vast majority of people they're passionate about certain courses and they just look at the course like is it a good, good condition, and that's it there's no other factors.

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Yeah yeah we had, we have, you're gonna play something regularly go ahead.

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Yeah, we had somebody comment about uh, how do you determine value for a private club that you have to know a member to get on?

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Um, where, yeah, uh, shadow creek, amazing, amazing course, off the charts.

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Um, you know conditions and great design, very, very expensive, where you know.

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Our number one course that came out was southern highlands and it, equally, is immaculate.

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It has an amazing vibe, it has an amazing design, but I think there is more value in it because you don't have to know a member.

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There's other ways to get on the golf courses.

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Yeah, that's what I mentioned earlier.

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Yeah, there's other ways to do it, and then you've got to look at how much it costs for you to get on and then the value in that are you getting, are you?

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Getting anything out of it and if you can get on shadow creek or uh southern highlands for 300 400 bucks you're gonna have a hell of an experience you know so

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yeah, the one dude earlier he said, uh, I forget his name, but you know, shadow creek is an exorbitant amount of money to play and not only just to pay to play green fees.

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You got to pay caddy and you have to stay at a uh mgm resort property for a night, so it's like it adds up and the value obviously it's incredible right conditions, immaculate, great experience.

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But like, for that amount of money you could go take a golf trip with your friends and the value you would get out of a golf trip with your homies is way larger than a four hour, five hour round at shadow creek.

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That's where you know you know it comes from.

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So, and and speaking of the private courses, it's that's.

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That's a very hard topic to explain and a hard topic to judge and rate, because you know we have an idea of what it costs to be a member and what.

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How I look at it, is what I pay the initiation and the monthly dues to play here three times a week.

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It's tough, it is tough.

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Everybody is faced with that where they are locally in the world.

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I think we did a great job.

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I would love, hopefully, we can put out the listener rating sheet, because I would love to see how that comes in how's that coming?

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it works it's in the works all right.

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One more thing about you know private courses.

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A lot of what you get for what you're paying at a private course it depends on if you value those things.

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You know it.

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Private courses connections the building relationships yep, yep, uh, you know you're not going to stand on a tee box for 25 minutes and wait for the four groups ahead of you to play.

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You're not.

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You know the bunkers are probably raked, yeah, stuff like that.

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If you don't care about those things, it's probably not worth you paying to be a private member somewhere.

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Right, you know.

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So it's what do you value in your round?

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It's what?

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What do you value in your round?

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Um, if, if you don't want to have giant groups and you know seven groups on a tee box, then you know private might be the way to go, but if you don't care, then it's different.

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So, I think Cliff had a great point when he said you know the value in a private membership is meeting the other members and networking with other members.

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Yeah's incredible.

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So I put together, uh, the what we had last week um here so everybody could see.

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I highlighted a couple things.

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Um, I had 27 people tell me that desert pines wasn't on there uh, it was a little little typo.

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I had painted desert desert pine, painted deserts on there twice, so apologize for that it's just that good man, and desert's that good man and it's probably going to probably going to be the last time desert pines is on the list, because we just uh yeah yeah

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um, red rock country club got a lot of heat for being that far down.

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Um, and then aliante, uh, was mistakenly not on the list, um, so that is there.

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That's, that's 55 through 29.

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Um, I had a couple of these highlighted in 28 through 11, uh, angel Park, palm I, I.

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I don't agree with that.

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I think that could be down a little bit more and have a couple of the other courses move up Um and Rio Seco.

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Uh, just so everybody is aware, um, rio seco is my absolute favorite course in town.

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I absolutely love it and with the rankings that we do, it came into 14.

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So that's how different a perspective you can have on your favorite course versus.

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You know how it pans out.

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And then there's the top 10.

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So if anybody wants to see this, just shout out and uh, we'll, we'll throw it back up there.

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You need to check out but, um, I, you know, I this is what I wanted and it didn't happen.

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You know, we, we put it out there and we put everybody to see it and then, uh, instant bashing, this sucks, you guys are clowns, this list is trash, blah, blah.

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And so joe and I were both like double teaming people going.

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But why?

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tell us why.

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What's what's?

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what's wrong?

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What's why?

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Why the thumbs down?

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Why why are you questioning?

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Uh, southern highlands, you know what?

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And and a few people few people got interactive with us and it was nice.

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Yeah, we got one.

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We got one of the shapers of summit to comment.

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Yeah, incredible, yeah, he goes, it was so.

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Yeah, we got one.

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We got one of the shapers of summit to comment yeah, incredible.

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Yeah he goes.

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It was so funny, he goes, I don't need to.

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I built it yeah, I loved that.

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I was like oh, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta shape it yeah, uh, yeah that was.

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That was pretty funny.

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So it's.

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It was great to see, I mean by far one of our most popular posts we've ever put out there.

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Um, I I'm grateful for everybody that saw it.

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I I hope you know it didn't transition over into listenings.

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I want people to go listen to the episode so they have a better understanding and uh, that's the thing.

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That's that was one of my biggest gripes.

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Was, you know, people commenting no comments on why they felt that way, and it's like how did you do this?

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It's like, well, go listen, man.

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Like we put it out there for you to hear, listen, you know, get now go get your facts and do deals yeah, exactly so.

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I mean that's that's the way of the world, but uh, I wish people would listen before they just throw it out there.

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You guys did do a really good job explaining things.

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You know as far as why things were a certain way and your rating system and stuff, and you know.

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Looking at that list again, matt, we talked about a little earlier, the only thing I had a significant difference with was, I don't know why I just I love Conestoga.

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It would have been in my top 10 probably, or it is when I did the ones that I've played.

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I just I think in the Mesquite area it's the best value.

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I think the setup is it sort of meets that Mesquite golfing on the moon feel, but it's not overly done.

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Uh, the conditions are great.

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I think the vibe there is fantastic.

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You know you walk out on the range really good golf holes too.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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And it's, it's right away, like that.

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Is it the second hole?

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The second hole, the par three, yeah, just a great hole.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, um, and both times we've gone to mesquite.

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Now I think that's the first and last course we played and it just it leaves such a good taste in your mouth, it's so good.

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Yeah, you know, when I first started playing golf again, conestoga had just opened up and had a buddy who had a flooring company that was doing a lot of the work in the Mesquite area and they got the contract for Conestoga.

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So we got to go out there a lot and play Conestoga.

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So we got to go out there a lot and play.

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I mean, we were in Mesquite all the time playing it and playing that course like returning to golf, I got my ass handed to me over and over and over and over again and now, the last couple times that I've played it, I've played a lot better and it's like man I remember standing on on like the fifth tee box that that split fairway with the bridges par five and just so nervous about what's about to happen.

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And it's such a fun golf course though.

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And it's.

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I think it's Go ahead.

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One thing about Conestoga is it still feels unfinished.

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I mean, when we played it, there was.

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Well, Coyote Springs feels unfinished too yeah, but not in the way that Conestoga does for me.

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Like you know, there's, you know, bumpy roads, no cart path here.

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Um things feel missing in areas and the last three holes are kind of out of exactly yeah, and it kind of like it's it of like it's a great ride up until that point and then you get to the end and it's like this kind of feels unfinished Like is there more to come?

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Is it going to be, you know, smoothed over and massaged?

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So hopefully that happens, because it is a spectacular golf course and it's an incredible journey.

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So great golf course that's one Dan, one dan has yet to play that we're gonna have to knock off for him because we have it at 17.

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It is our highest course in mesquite, if that counts.

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So but yeah, yeah, great, great place.

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And and I I'll tell anybody anybody that ever asked if you're going to mesquite, if you haven't played wolf creek, of course you need to go play wolf creek, just so you can say I've played wolf creek.

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But if you want to go play golf, real golf, go to.

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Yeah yeah, go to connells, with a similar vibe as wolf creek too, so yeah, and falcon ridge get a range.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah I heard they're working on it right yeah, they, they told us because I was when I was there.

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I was I was talking with uh the, the pro that was helping us out, and uh, he said that you know, behind alongside 18, between the road and 18, there's that it drops down and it's flat, that they're trying to get that zone so they could build the range there, which would be cool.

00:16:49.994 --> 00:16:52.761
I mean have a nice elevated hit down into the.

00:16:54.868 --> 00:16:58.820
I mean just speaking of mesquite, well, like what an incredible golf destination.

00:16:58.820 --> 00:17:22.625
And the 40 minutes away you have saint george, which is an incredible golf destination, like so so many incredible golf courses that people are just now finding out about, and it's it's such a hidden gem, uh, yeah, that that area is saturated with incredible golf so how's?

00:17:22.664 --> 00:17:27.732
wisconsin, mike uh, this morning it was like 36.

00:17:27.732 --> 00:17:29.375
I think it got up to 40 today.

00:17:29.375 --> 00:17:34.691
Yeah, yeah, the courses around here all closed now.

00:17:34.691 --> 00:17:41.806
Yeah, yeah, that sucks, but uh, yeah, we start going south now and finding finding warmer weather.

00:17:43.888 --> 00:17:46.894
Do you do that every year, do you snowboard pretty much every year?

00:17:48.503 --> 00:17:51.842
I mean, usually my trips are in the winter just because of the nature of the weather up here.

00:17:51.842 --> 00:17:55.025
When the weather's nice in the summer up here, there's no reason to leave the state.

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We get a lot of good golf up here, so but yeah, we got some trips planned Myrtle beach and then probably down to stream song at some point, and so should be good have you played all the stream song courses?

00:18:11.851 --> 00:18:16.746
uh, no, no, I actually stream song was one of the first trips I ever took, probably seven or eight years ago.

00:18:16.746 --> 00:18:23.750
Um, and I have not played black or um, what do they have a new one down there called?

00:18:23.750 --> 00:18:28.040
Uh I'm blanking on the name, but I I've only played red and blue.

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They got that short one, or?

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Yeah, one yeah yeah, I think they're working on either it's done or they're working on a big putting course too, which I think are really fun well, they have.

00:18:40.259 --> 00:18:41.424
They have one at, uh, at the black, at the black clubhouse.

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It's called the gauntlet, I think it's called.

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Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

00:18:43.071 --> 00:18:43.795
Yeah, yeah, they, they have one there.

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It's Clubhouse, it's called the Gauntlet, I think it's called.

00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:46.605
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

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yeah, yeah, they have one there.

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It's not, I mean it's not punchable, but it's pretty sick.

00:18:52.250 --> 00:18:54.468
Which course did you like better, the blue or the red?

00:18:56.941 --> 00:18:57.905
I think I liked the red better.

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It's been a long time, though, so I, which one has the really cool par 3 with the long bridge over it?

00:19:04.503 --> 00:19:07.488
You, so I try to which one has the really cool par three with the long?

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Bridge over it, you kind of hit into a red right.

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That's red, I think.

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Blue, blue, blue, that's the joke right, yeah, blue's the dope.

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Yeah it's.

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It's been a while since I've been down there.

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Now I just live vicariously through pictures.

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But um, I'll never forget it was like caddy and it was actually a four caddy.

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We had carts and the.

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It was kind of a they kind of ride in the back of the cart in between shots and run up to your ball and stuff.

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But I'm standing on the first tee and I'm I'm pretty nervous.

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The first time I had a caddy, it was real nice course.

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And I hear this weird like growl and there was a giant gator nest underneath the tee box and I look at the cad cat.

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I was like what the hell was that?

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And he's like, oh, that's brutus, he's the big gator that lives under the tee box.

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And I was like, oh, that helps, and proceeded to just shake my drive right.

00:19:50.807 --> 00:20:02.746
The big vibration that they do yeah, oh my god, the first time I was, I had a buddy that lived in boca and so I'd go see him every now and then and we'd go play courses around there and he's like one day he's like oh you need to go to the everglade park.

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Come on, I'll take you to the everglade park, and so we go there.

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And yeah, you just see the water vibrating and I mean it is like a deep vibration.

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It's creepy dinosaurs I want nothing to do with alligators so I got a question for you, mike.

00:20:17.106 --> 00:20:23.345
I saw a post earlier saying that aaron hills is the best course in wisconsin and it was pretty controversial post.

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Yep so uh yeah I, I love aaron hills.

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It's, it's in the middle of nowhere, which I really like.

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I like courses that there's nothing else.

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The only thing you can see is there's a, there's a giant uh, they call it the uh chapel on the hill or something and it's, it's this big, gorgeous, like 200 old, 200 year old chapel in the middle of wisconsin.

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That's the only thing you can see on the whole course and it's, it's this big, gorgeous, like 200 old, 200 year old chapel in the middle of Wisconsin.

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That's the only thing you can see on the whole course and it's just natural.

00:20:50.291 --> 00:20:54.926
Lynx golf very difficult, regardless of the tee box you even play from.

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And yeah, I mean I've, I've played whistling.

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Whistling's great, probably equally, or at least almost equally, as hard.

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The lake is there.

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That's a lot of the novelty of whistling.

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I think there's a place right next door called Black Wolf Run, their river course I actually like better as far as a golf layout goes.

00:21:18.865 --> 00:21:25.185
It's probably harder than whistling, is that's what I've heard Tough to say.

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I think.

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Erinaron hills if I have one round, that's where I'm going, uh, but staying at sand valley and playing the courses at sand valley is also really tough to beat.

00:21:34.605 --> 00:21:40.470
We just did a trip there, I don't know a month and a half or two months ago, and we played all the courses, including alito, and it was.

00:21:40.470 --> 00:21:45.589
It was unbelievable and saying the the stuff they're doing at sand valley is is nuts.

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They're building another course out there.

00:21:47.242 --> 00:21:50.349
They've already got four, I guess now.

00:21:50.349 --> 00:21:52.012
Um, they've got a.

00:21:52.012 --> 00:21:54.905
The short course, the sandbox, there's really good.

00:21:54.905 --> 00:21:59.082
Um, yeah, I staying there and playing rounds there is it's.

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That's a tough, tough thing to beat as far as a stay and play goes yeah, we're, uh, we're planning on in january, we're we're calling sand valley book in 26 in august.

00:22:08.867 --> 00:22:13.925
So we'll ship some sleeping bags to your house and we'll be there you go, I'm only.

00:22:14.307 --> 00:22:16.251
I'm less than an hour from sand valley I'm lucky.

00:22:16.271 --> 00:22:19.525
Yeah, no less than an hour, that's nice what?

00:22:20.046 --> 00:22:22.349
so what did you think of the Lido?

00:22:22.349 --> 00:22:25.095
I'm curious on what you thought of that.

00:22:25.681 --> 00:22:28.446
It's not my favorite course there, but it's probably.

00:22:28.446 --> 00:22:31.313
If you're a golf purist, it probably is.

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It's very difficult.

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You can tell it's a very old-fashioned design.

00:22:36.989 --> 00:22:39.027
Is it Tillinghast at it?

00:22:39.027 --> 00:22:40.980
Cb McDonald?

00:22:40.980 --> 00:22:43.546
Cb McDonald yeah, he's one of the OG guys.

00:22:43.546 --> 00:22:46.601
Uh, cb mcdonald?

00:22:46.601 --> 00:22:47.784
Cb mcdonald yeah, he's one of the og guys.

00:22:47.784 --> 00:23:09.820
Um and uh, the setup is is clearly a kind of a replica setup of something that was done elsewhere, but we we had some younger caddies and, like, on a lot of the t-boxes they gave us lines and you couldn't see bunkers like very small pot bunkers in the middle of the fairway and like your t-ball would look great and it would end up in one of those and um, but I mean, it's, it's this historic course there's, there's a really cool story behind it.

00:23:09.820 --> 00:23:14.138
Um, I think it's really neat that they remade it and don't get me wrong, it was fun.

00:23:14.138 --> 00:23:15.241
It was very difficult too, though.

00:23:16.002 --> 00:23:33.288
Um, so I it looks like it doesn't like offer like the views of other courses, right, like it's pretty flat, like things are deceptive and disguised and camouflaged, but like I'm sure it probably looks better from above than it does on the ground yeah, there's very little elevation.

00:23:33.509 --> 00:23:36.862
There's some water on probably four or five holes, but otherwise it's a.

00:23:36.862 --> 00:23:37.967
It's a big flat.

00:23:37.967 --> 00:23:45.621
It's kind of the top of their property, but it's a big flat plateau and that's that's where they routed it, probably because it was it was the easiest spot to do it.

00:23:45.621 --> 00:23:53.988
But it's not at all I shouldn't say at all but it's not as visually impressive as as mammoth or sand valley, um, or such valley.

00:23:54.971 --> 00:24:14.873
I can see that, I can see how that would be your rankings for for the sand valley area uh, I would say my two favorite are sand Valley and mammoth dunes and I think both of them are kind of off the tee box, super forgiving.

00:24:14.873 --> 00:24:18.089
I mean you can hit a ball 50 yards offline and it might still be in the fairway.

00:24:18.089 --> 00:24:20.868
You're going to be a hundred yards offline.

00:24:20.868 --> 00:24:25.090
But the difference between sand Valley and mammoth are mammoth dunes.

00:24:25.090 --> 00:24:32.257
The green complexes are very forgiving, everything kind of feeds in, whereas if you're on the edges of Sand Valley it's often it's gone.

00:24:32.257 --> 00:24:34.221
Like it's probably five shots harder.

00:24:34.221 --> 00:24:37.411
But they're pretty similar in kind of layout and design.

00:24:37.431 --> 00:24:43.674
So I, if I'm looking to have fun and score, I would say Mammoth first and then Sand Valley.

00:24:43.674 --> 00:24:49.907
If I really want to challenge myself, I'd probably say Sand Valley first, but they're my one and two um.

00:24:49.907 --> 00:24:54.715
Lito would then be probably third um and then sedge.

00:24:54.715 --> 00:24:57.164
Yeah, such such is interesting.

00:24:57.164 --> 00:25:00.195
It's short, uh, but it doesn't play short.

00:25:00.195 --> 00:25:02.823
You feel like you know you're not hitting a lot of drivers.

00:25:02.823 --> 00:25:11.787
There's some blind shots, um, I've only played it once, but I'd probably put that as four and where do you?

00:25:11.807 --> 00:25:14.112
where do the tacos and the spotted cow rank in?

00:25:14.132 --> 00:25:16.423
the game yeah that's.

00:25:16.423 --> 00:25:17.205
That's one of the best.

00:25:17.205 --> 00:25:23.869
It's one of the best turn shacks ever and, and actually the I believe they serve breakfast there too, and everything's like a dollar, two dollars.

00:25:23.971 --> 00:25:26.865
It's really fun yeah, dude, that's so sick how they can do that.

00:25:26.865 --> 00:25:28.868
I love that like aspect of it.

00:25:28.868 --> 00:25:42.167
You know, yeah, you're paying a little bit more for golf, but you know we're looking out for you in other aspects and that's something that dream golf resorts do impact, right, they look out for you in the areas that you don't think about.

00:25:42.167 --> 00:25:50.374
You know, the golf is incredible, but your accommodations, the food and pricing in that aspect are fantastic.

00:25:50.374 --> 00:25:51.605
Dream Golf does it.

00:25:51.605 --> 00:25:56.211
The experience that they put out there is unquestionably the best.

00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:05.249
I mean, the sandbox is kind of a big circle of I think it's 14 or 15 holes, but they're like legit par threes.

00:26:05.249 --> 00:26:07.949
The greens are just like the greens on the big courses.

00:26:07.949 --> 00:26:12.226
As you're doing your round, there's like a I don't know if you guys have heard of lining Kugels.

00:26:12.226 --> 00:26:13.686
It's a beer from Wisconsin, yes.

00:26:14.028 --> 00:26:19.148
Summer Shandy, yeah, so they have like a trailer Fruity Pebbles Fruity Pebbles flavor Summer.

00:26:19.169 --> 00:26:33.503
Shandy yeah, but they have like a trailer, like in the the middle of it.

00:26:33.523 --> 00:26:35.007
So, as you're walking around, you just stop there, grab a beer.

00:26:35.007 --> 00:26:36.651
You walk around with no shoes on, you grab three wedges and it's.

00:26:36.651 --> 00:26:36.912
It's a blast.

00:26:36.912 --> 00:26:37.251
Yeah, that's me.

00:26:37.251 --> 00:26:37.973
The experience is just awesome.

00:26:37.973 --> 00:26:38.074
Yeah.

00:26:38.074 --> 00:26:41.101
And also, uh shout out uh, fayden fairway, who mid-am podcast, he, he had an ace when they were out there.

00:26:41.101 --> 00:26:43.483
Uh, recently, earlier this year, got an ace.

00:26:43.483 --> 00:26:48.471
The they give him the shovel right, so tsa took it from him.

00:26:48.511 --> 00:26:51.194
He took it yeah and uh.

00:26:51.355 --> 00:26:53.986
He reached out to sand valley and they sent him a new one.

00:26:54.086 --> 00:27:00.510
So shout out that's a stand-up move, that's yeah, exactly yeah, stand up stand up.

00:27:00.570 --> 00:27:03.478
They should now like hey, here's your award.

00:27:03.478 --> 00:27:04.000
Are you flying?

00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:05.364
You may want to ship this to your house.

00:27:05.364 --> 00:27:08.171
Yeah, yeah wisconsin's.

00:27:08.881 --> 00:27:12.589
Wisconsin's got to be one of the most diverse places to play golf, I think.

00:27:12.589 --> 00:27:23.211
Like there's like you have century, which is like incredible forest, and then you have all these natural courses, kohler, erin hills it's just like there's pretty much everything you would want there.

00:27:23.211 --> 00:27:30.666
I'd say, yeah, or maybe michigan is similar I haven't been but no desert golf no desert golf no, no, no, desert golf.

00:27:31.228 --> 00:27:32.171
We don't have much for desert.

00:27:32.171 --> 00:27:33.981
It's yeah, it's a lot of woodland, great great.

00:27:34.021 --> 00:27:36.789
Netflix shows, too how to make a murder.

00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:37.431
That was amazing.

00:27:41.227 --> 00:27:51.042
Yeah, we've got everything we have a pretty bad history of uh serial killers ed geese, that's true, they are all from wisconsin, yeah, yeah yeah, I've only been to wisconsin once.

00:27:51.123 --> 00:27:56.162
My stepdad was from kenosha, so I haven't been there since I was probably like 10.

00:27:56.162 --> 00:28:07.750
But, uh, really good food, too great food and good cheese, good cheese, good cheese curds uh, too funny, too funny all right.

00:28:07.810 --> 00:28:09.634
So, uh, you're wearing a bandit hat.

00:28:09.634 --> 00:28:12.025
Yep, do you have.

00:28:12.025 --> 00:28:13.928
Do you have a bandit list?

00:28:13.928 --> 00:28:19.286
We'll just keep going with the rankings no, no, this is uh mammoth dunes sorry, mammoth dunes, that's not.

00:28:19.286 --> 00:28:20.328
Oh, have you been abandoned?

00:28:20.769 --> 00:28:35.952
nope yep shameful shameful oh my goodness yep he's even I've been abandoned yeah, jeremy's a big golf trip guy yeah, now we're working with kemper a bit too, so I need to get out there yeah, that's oh, wow.

00:28:35.992 --> 00:28:46.553
I'm like I can't wait for you to get out there one of these days I'm a little surprised you haven't been out there yeah, yeah, it's special place, man it's not just like you can book a trip there.

00:28:46.593 --> 00:28:48.242
You got to do it several years in advance.

00:28:48.242 --> 00:28:49.464
How long did you guys book ahead?

00:28:50.125 --> 00:28:54.334
year and a half, yeah, but me and me and dan uh booked.

00:28:54.334 --> 00:28:55.080
What was that?

00:28:55.080 --> 00:29:00.073
30 days, 21 days, 21 days, 21 days.

00:29:00.073 --> 00:29:03.059
We didn't stay on property because that's the.

00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:09.614
That's the hard thing about going to these resorts is the accommodations are booked up but there's tee times available.

00:29:09.614 --> 00:29:14.632
We stayed at the Lamplighter Inn and semi-trucks were cruising by.

00:29:14.632 --> 00:29:18.651
We thought they were going to kill us in our sleep, but we survived.

00:29:18.651 --> 00:29:19.102
We're here.

00:29:19.102 --> 00:29:23.759
But there's ways to do it without booking a year and a half in advance.

00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.950
But yeah, if you want the full experience, you have to do that.

00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:34.664
Did you guys stay on property the last time you went?

00:29:34.664 --> 00:29:36.513
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's a blast, I mean it is if you're gonna spend the money to do it.

00:29:36.534 --> 00:29:37.356
I feel like you gotta do it.

00:29:37.577 --> 00:29:50.324
You gotta do it right, do it big I mean the, the, how the customer service is, so over the top with the shuttle services and everything being close and all the different food options and all the different courses.

00:29:50.324 --> 00:29:53.692
I mean there's so much variety you don't need to leave.

00:29:53.692 --> 00:30:01.085
I mean, we did go into town and, uh, you know, go down to the beach, check that out and have some breakfast at uh, banning donuts, is that what it is, joe?

00:30:02.307 --> 00:30:16.173
uh banning coffee and biscuits and gravy are epic oh my god, so good so good and you're walking the whole trip, so that's not even a guilty uh, guilty meal yeah, there you go, you're just feeling for this energy.

00:30:16.461 --> 00:30:18.865
Yeah, fuel yourself up, because you're gonna need it.

00:30:19.728 --> 00:30:25.665
And they got the balls too so when you make it up there, mike, you know, let us know, we'll give you all the tips we get.

00:30:25.665 --> 00:30:26.647
We got tips for you.

00:30:26.647 --> 00:30:27.169
Appreciate it.

00:30:27.169 --> 00:30:30.275
And a commoner golf, oh one.

00:30:30.275 --> 00:30:33.969
He said he heard that they're coming to Colorado, which is true.

00:30:33.969 --> 00:30:43.634
Rodeo dunes is coming, which will be 30 minutes away from Denver airport, and that's going to be easy, like we could go there like a day trip.

00:30:43.634 --> 00:30:46.327
Yeah, we could do that.

00:30:46.327 --> 00:30:47.451
They're coming to Texas.

00:30:47.451 --> 00:30:52.886
They are coming to Florida, most recently noted, they are doing it right.

00:30:52.886 --> 00:30:59.153
So there is a lot of epic dream coming to an area, yeah, vegas.

00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:00.625
They're not coming to Vegas.

00:31:03.142 --> 00:31:03.865
Hey, you never know.

00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.266
Maybe we're we're losing golf courses.

00:31:06.827 --> 00:31:07.790
We're shrinking Golf courses Maybe.

00:31:07.810 --> 00:31:09.576
We're losing golf courses, we're shrinking our golf courses.

00:31:09.576 --> 00:31:16.868
Yeah, I mean, you got to play Desert Bind, so good for you on that.

00:31:17.763 --> 00:31:19.382
That's going to be housing now.

00:31:19.542 --> 00:31:21.642
So another one bites the dust.

00:31:21.642 --> 00:31:33.641
Royal Links is now housing Silverstone, black Mountain, black Mountain's houses.

00:31:33.641 --> 00:31:36.426
The badlands, too, got a new mayor that says she's gonna finish the uh.

00:31:36.426 --> 00:31:40.634
Badlands deal and and that's gonna be houses yeah, it's sad.

00:31:40.634 --> 00:31:46.313
It is sad and we lost prim they need to go back and open up the uh the nine hole course at Mount Charleston.

00:31:46.313 --> 00:31:48.097
Yeah, that was the Tom the nine-hole course at Mount Charleston.

00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.369
Yeah, that was the Tom Fazio design up there at Mount Charleston.

00:31:53.539 --> 00:31:54.544
Unfortunately lost.

00:31:55.146 --> 00:31:56.703
What yeah, it was Fazio.

00:31:57.145 --> 00:31:57.807
Are you sure?

00:31:57.827 --> 00:31:59.112
Pretty sure.

00:32:00.134 --> 00:32:00.516
I don't know.

00:32:00.516 --> 00:32:01.660
I'll have to look into that.

00:32:03.263 --> 00:32:03.724
Another one.

00:32:03.724 --> 00:32:05.789
We're kind of losing is Bears Best.

00:32:05.849 --> 00:32:06.833
I mean, it's not going.

00:32:06.833 --> 00:32:09.228
The golf course isn't going away, but it's going private.

00:32:09.228 --> 00:32:10.151
It's going private.

00:32:11.161 --> 00:32:13.910
More rate increases Exactly.

00:32:14.621 --> 00:32:16.567
They don't want us peasants up in those neighborhoods.

00:32:16.567 --> 00:32:17.931
That's why no yeah.

00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.087
I hope you got to get a credit score before you join that place.

00:32:21.087 --> 00:32:25.928
If you get 100 or more, you don't qualify.

00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:30.865
So, Mike, you have played quite a few courses in vegas.

00:32:30.865 --> 00:32:31.868
You said you did your own rankings list what.

00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:37.109
What came out on top for you uh, I mean, I agreed, in vegas it's piute.

00:32:37.109 --> 00:32:45.205
I mean, as far as public goes, I I haven't played desert pines, um I uh I played all the courses at piute.

00:32:45.205 --> 00:32:46.728
I I think snow is the best.

00:32:46.728 --> 00:32:50.873
I agree, I think Sun Mountain doesn't get that much love.

00:32:50.873 --> 00:32:54.909
I think you guys mentioned that Same here yeah same here, I think it's better than Wolf.

00:32:54.909 --> 00:32:55.680
I mean, wolf has got the island green.

00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:56.963
That's what you see in a lot of the videos.

00:32:56.963 --> 00:32:59.070
I think it's better than Wolf, yeah.

00:32:59.381 --> 00:33:00.065
I think I really like it.

00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:01.580
They're all great courses.

00:33:01.580 --> 00:33:08.529
I will say, the last couple of times I've gone to Paiute, the staff hasn't been that excited to.

00:33:08.529 --> 00:33:12.054
I don't know, treat isn't the right word, but like.

00:33:12.734 --> 00:33:13.615
I told you the story, yeah.

00:33:16.122 --> 00:33:16.282
Host.

00:33:16.282 --> 00:33:20.000
Thank you, yeah, that's a perfect word.

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.383
The vibes haven't been the best.

00:33:23.383 --> 00:33:28.579
But that aside, I you know I don't really care and get out on the course, the courses are all awesome.

00:33:28.579 --> 00:33:31.742
So, yeah, paiute is, paiute is there for me.

00:33:31.742 --> 00:33:31.803
Um.

00:33:31.803 --> 00:33:32.324
Tpc las vegas.

00:33:32.324 --> 00:33:37.152
I've probably played the most um and I I like the setup.

00:33:37.152 --> 00:33:40.041
It's definitely not a course.

00:33:40.041 --> 00:33:43.166
You can bang driver all day, at least from where I play on the boxes.

00:33:43.166 --> 00:33:47.933
Um, I think I had it 13 is where we got it.

00:33:48.615 --> 00:33:51.439
Yeah, I talking Vegas specifically.

00:33:51.439 --> 00:33:55.046
I had Coyote Springs ahead of it, but otherwise it was behind Paiute.

00:33:55.046 --> 00:34:01.887
I haven't played a ton of courses in Vegas but yeah, I think TPC Las Vegas is good.

00:34:01.887 --> 00:34:02.869
Their range is really good.

00:34:02.869 --> 00:34:04.020
Their practice here is really good.

00:34:04.020 --> 00:34:12.295
If you hit it at a a bad time, sometimes the conditions can be a little bit iffy, but, uh, the course setup, if you've played it before, I will say, is really good.

00:34:12.295 --> 00:34:18.847
If it's the first time you've played it, there's some shots and some t-boxes that can be a little iffy, but, um, it's definitely a.

00:34:18.847 --> 00:34:21.275
Uh, you know a lot of the t-boxes.

00:34:21.275 --> 00:34:23.262
You're probably not going to hit driver if you know the course.

00:34:23.262 --> 00:34:25.947
Uh, but I I think it's a fun setup.

00:34:25.947 --> 00:34:27.130
I think it's a fun setup.

00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:30.646
Actually, the last time I was there, though, it was blowing 55 mile an hour winds and it was.

00:34:31.108 --> 00:34:37.268
It was tough that's called an average tuesday yeah, yeah, let me ask you this, mike.

00:34:37.668 --> 00:35:05.188
I mean, I know this is kind of I don't know if you'll know how to answer this because of what you do but um, as far as like a value proposition, right, like we're locals, right, we pay a local rate I mean, what do you feel is a fair rate to play golf in las vegas compared to, like a desert pines to the paiutes of the world?

00:35:06.911 --> 00:35:15.552
yeah, well, I can tell you hard for you to answer, but yeah, I, the last time I played desert pines the that's the, yeah, desert pines.

00:35:15.552 --> 00:35:30.744
We were that was in february, so it was kind of peak-ish season, it wasn't the middle of summer, but I actually just looked it up on my phone earlier I think we paid 130 bucks, which isn't terrible I mean it's an out-of-counter that's great yeah

00:35:30.824 --> 00:35:32.389
I mean, you're playing in las vegas.

00:35:32.389 --> 00:35:45.443
Um, you know, I think for a good quality course like piute or coyote springs, as someone who's traveling there to play golf, I don't think 200 bucks is crazy.

00:35:46.605 --> 00:35:59.483
Um, you know, I think that's for I mean compared to what you're going to get elsewhere, like if you were to visit a sienna which is going to charge you 170, like the value of an extra 30 bucks.

00:35:59.684 --> 00:36:01.788
Yeah, 100 for a good course 100.

00:36:01.788 --> 00:36:07.766
Yeah, exactly, exactly okay well and those prices aren't that ridiculous compared to you.

00:36:07.766 --> 00:36:09.429
You go to Sand Valley to play Mammoth Dunes.

00:36:09.429 --> 00:36:11.273
It's $250, $280.

00:36:11.273 --> 00:36:11.494
I mean.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:13.242
What are you paying though?

00:36:13.242 --> 00:36:14.465
As a resident.

00:36:14.827 --> 00:36:15.789
Or do they get a discount?

00:36:15.789 --> 00:36:16.530
There's no discount.

00:36:16.911 --> 00:36:17.452
Oh, wow.

00:36:18.061 --> 00:36:22.722
Yeah, there's no discounts for Wisconsin residents, bannon gives you like.

00:36:22.824 --> 00:36:27.824
I think it's like $40 or $50 off as an Oregon resident yeah.

00:36:30.170 --> 00:36:30.851
Yeah, wisconsin.

00:36:30.851 --> 00:36:33.367
I feel like the season is pretty short.

00:36:33.367 --> 00:36:47.773
Yeah, that's a good thing out there, yeah, they can't, yeah, yeah, they can't afford to give a lot of discounts because, let's be honest, there's not a lot of people traveling to Wisconsin to play golf Well, I would say less so than places like vegas.

00:36:47.773 --> 00:36:51.847
There's people traveling to vegas for other things that want to play golf, right, um?

00:36:51.967 --> 00:36:58.527
whereas wisconsin it's not like that yeah, so is like the local course in your area.

00:36:58.527 --> 00:37:02.213
That's not, you know, top 100 what.

00:37:02.213 --> 00:37:04.567
What are you paying saturday morning?

00:37:04.567 --> 00:37:08.000
Uh, if it was so, there's a yeah, so there's a yeah, so there's a place.

00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.347
There's a place called the jewel down the river and it's actually in Minnesota.

00:37:11.347 --> 00:37:12.992
But I I it's a very good setup.

00:37:12.992 --> 00:37:15.228
It's a nice links layout right on the river.

00:37:15.228 --> 00:37:20.992
I think that's probably 75 bucks to play there.

00:37:20.992 --> 00:37:29.382
I mean golfing at a non-destination course in Wisconsin is is not not terribly expensive and we got some good under the radar courses like that.

00:37:29.382 --> 00:37:34.914
The jewel is a course um kemper manages it actually.

00:37:34.914 --> 00:37:45.869
Um, but it's very good condition, fun layout and, like I said, it's 70 bucks and um it's pretty available as far as tee times go to.

00:37:45.909 --> 00:37:52.177
So Was it always that price or as as the COVID changed?

00:37:54.041 --> 00:37:57.860
I've even noticed COVID has changed tee times locally, everywhere.

00:37:58.862 --> 00:37:59.445
I mean golf is.

00:37:59.445 --> 00:38:01.411
Since COVID, golf has just boomed.

00:38:01.411 --> 00:38:07.164
I think I mentioned in the comment to one of your prior podcasts but I was talking to.

00:38:07.164 --> 00:38:11.849
This is at quintero out in arizona, but um, really, really good course.

00:38:11.849 --> 00:38:16.028
But I was talking to their marketing person and about covid back, you know, several years ago.

00:38:16.028 --> 00:38:23.240
But he said during covid their t-sheets were stuffed and they increased their rates because of it by like 70 bucks or something and they've just kept them.

00:38:23.240 --> 00:38:26.108
They just kept them there crazy and it's.

00:38:26.369 --> 00:38:47.474
I think they charge like 300 bucks around now yeah, dynamic pricing has changed yeah, it's like the uber surge pricing yep, yeah, yeah, we, we, uh, we were talking to the guys at coyote when we had our tournament out there and they, the coyote was such a great value that the mesquite residents were not golfing in mesquite.

00:38:47.474 --> 00:38:50.242
They were coming to coyote because it was cheaper golf.

00:38:50.242 --> 00:39:08.130
So they're like, well, we're going to change that yeah and so it's, it's wild how, how fast the prices can change, and, and everybody's doing it, everybody's doing it yeah, perm wasn't doing it and maybe that's why their downfall happened.

00:39:10.001 --> 00:39:13.128
That's why their bottom number was in red and not black.

00:39:14.052 --> 00:39:14.271
Yeah.

00:39:15.740 --> 00:39:19.768
But you know, somebody said that the post was sponsored by Paiute.

00:39:20.831 --> 00:39:21.291
Not at all?

00:39:21.733 --> 00:39:22.054
Not at all.

00:39:22.054 --> 00:39:24.606
I said that at the beginning Not paid.

00:39:24.606 --> 00:39:26.492
This is an opinion, it's all our opinions.

00:39:26.492 --> 00:39:31.663
But you know I I'm like mad at piute right now.

00:39:31.744 --> 00:39:39.822
We, we, we got it, we got it we got a piute pro shopper worker in the in the chat, so be careful who?

00:39:40.103 --> 00:39:40.664
who's in there?

00:39:41.385 --> 00:39:47.112
we got uh on der on odaro underscore db8 in the chat on IG.

00:39:47.112 --> 00:39:48.695
He works in the pro shop at Bayou.

00:39:48.695 --> 00:39:51.070
Okay, just watch yourself.

00:39:51.070 --> 00:39:52.364
And he'll fight you.

00:39:52.364 --> 00:39:53.882
He said Well, alright.

00:39:53.963 --> 00:39:55.128
I'll fight you.

00:39:55.128 --> 00:40:02.150
We were told we can't book a tournament except for seven days out which?

00:40:03.061 --> 00:40:05.009
Yeah, that's kind of shitty 72 players.

00:40:05.900 --> 00:40:07.206
Yeah, 72 players.

00:40:07.206 --> 00:40:07.740
We were said.

00:40:07.740 --> 00:40:09.266
You know a local traveling league?

00:40:09.266 --> 00:40:17.038
Nope, and we have been bringing tournaments to Paiute for five years.

00:40:17.659 --> 00:40:17.739
Yeah.

00:40:19.885 --> 00:40:25.606
You know, we started with Legends Never Die, and then the VGN, and we've been out there every single year.

00:40:25.606 --> 00:40:26.527
If it's not a major, it's another event.

00:40:26.527 --> 00:40:28.099
We've been out there every single year, if it's not a major, it's another event.

00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:29.362
We love coming out there.

00:40:29.362 --> 00:40:36.541
Um, and everybody's like, you know, let's let's find a really good force course to have the finals at.

00:40:36.541 --> 00:40:48.413
So I tried to book, you know, 60 players for two days next november and got told no yeah, they iced us for our auction this year too.

00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.684
Historically, they've always donated, and it's been crickets this year.

00:40:53.248 --> 00:40:56.353
Oh, oh, man Wow.

00:40:57.418 --> 00:41:02.268
Yeah, but the thing about so we should go into the auction after I make this statement.

00:41:02.268 --> 00:41:13.253
Yeah, the reason Paiute is so high is because you are going to consistently get the same conditions all year.

00:41:13.253 --> 00:41:15.525
The greens are going to be great.

00:41:15.525 --> 00:41:17.105
They're going to roll fast.

00:41:17.105 --> 00:41:17.967
They're going to roll true.

00:41:17.967 --> 00:41:19.947
The grass is going to be green.

00:41:19.947 --> 00:41:31.887
You're not going to pay I mean crazy differences in pricing throughout peak season 50 bucks maybe, but you are getting a.

00:41:31.887 --> 00:41:34.213
You know, like how you go to McDonald's?

00:41:34.213 --> 00:41:37.005
Right, fries are the fries of the fries.

00:41:37.005 --> 00:41:40.007
No matter where you go, when you go to Paiute it's going to be Paiute.

00:41:40.007 --> 00:41:40.668
It's going to be great.

00:41:40.668 --> 00:41:45.123
Conditions are going to be epic and that's what it is all the time.

00:41:45.123 --> 00:41:48.088
I've never seen Paiute in bad shape ever in my.

00:41:48.088 --> 00:41:58.552
You know however many times we've played there, it's always going to be good and that's why it's up on the list, because we can recommend it confidently and say you're going to have a good experience there.

00:41:58.552 --> 00:42:04.105
That's why we do it and that's why it's there it's an amazing place.

00:42:04.867 --> 00:42:05.710
It's an amazing place.

00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:07.525
Wait, we're going to take our break.

00:42:07.525 --> 00:42:13.887
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00:42:47.893 --> 00:42:58.097
Yeah, we're selling the out-of-state rates all day long, 120 days out, at 200 per player out of piute I get it hey same thing with rio.

00:42:58.518 --> 00:43:05.405
It's a pretty damn good that's not a bad price, in my opinion, for the quality of course, by you for an out-of-stater, that's exactly yeah.

00:43:05.405 --> 00:43:07.661
I mean yeah to your point, joe.

00:43:07.661 --> 00:43:25.161
For 140 bucks I played, you know, desert pines and I pay an extra 60 to go to pi it all day 100 and the extra uber ride yeah yeah, yeah, it's out there, it's out there it's out there, it's, it's getting out there

00:43:26.927 --> 00:43:34.443
last time we went to pie, we uh, we had a pretty late night the night before and we had like a I don't know eight o'clock tea time or something and the uber pick when we play with you, right?

00:43:34.443 --> 00:43:36.248
Yeah, yeah, uh.

00:43:36.248 --> 00:43:38.413
No, you played with me and my brother, right?

00:43:38.882 --> 00:43:45.349
yeah yeah, no, this is a different time, but uh, the uber driver picked us up and it was like 90 degrees already in the morning and his ac and his car didn't work and his windows were all up.

00:43:45.349 --> 00:43:49.864
And it was like 90 degrees already in the morning and his ac and his car didn't work and his windows were all up and we were.

00:43:49.945 --> 00:44:03.074
So we're just like just baking bro it's like a clam you're not gonna like this rating it's getting baked, oh man man okay.

00:44:03.074 --> 00:44:06.782
So uh, tell everybody about the auction so that that may not know.

00:44:06.782 --> 00:44:12.034
We've teased it it a couple times, but explain to everybody what it is and what it's for.

00:44:13.219 --> 00:44:29.934
Yeah, so we've got our we call it the Beautiful Golf Charity Auction coming up, actually a week from today, the 26th, and it's our eighth annual and it's in support of 4Hadley, which is a charity that we've kind of become close with now.

00:44:29.934 --> 00:44:48.641
Ryan and Kate Bush are the founders and they lost their first daughter after six days of after birth to what's a congenital diaphragmatic hernia, which is a birth defect where essentially the separation between the lungs and the belly doesn't form and then the lungs don't form.

00:44:48.641 --> 00:45:12.331
Um, but essentially we are hosting this auction it's our eighth one, uh, and there's going to be a whole bunch of tea times and kind of golf opportunities up for grabs on an online auction format so people from anywhere can bid and, uh, the proceeds go to 4 Hadley, which is Ryan and Kate's charity, and there's some things that we fund with that money.

00:45:12.331 --> 00:45:32.411
The big one is called their Angels in the NICU Fund and it's essentially a program for babies and families who are in the hospital over the holidays, because for babies that survive, they're usually hospitalized for weeks to months because they have several major surgeries and they're usually very premature.

00:45:32.411 --> 00:45:42.786
But basically that Angels in the NICU fund goes towards transportation, medical costs, food, et cetera, because usually these babies are not.

00:45:42.786 --> 00:45:49.784
There's only probably a handful of hospitals that treat CDH in the in the country, just because it's such a complex thing.

00:45:49.784 --> 00:45:58.041
Uh, so they're usually not local, they're coming from elsewhere and uh, and then it also funds stuff like scholarships, medical research, those types of things.

00:45:59.063 --> 00:46:10.293
Um, and it's our like I said, it's our, it's our eighth one and to date I think we've raised over 600 grand and and this year we've got well over, I think, 120 courses that have donated.

00:46:10.460 --> 00:46:14.751
So not everything is up on the course list right now, but our auction site is open.

00:46:14.751 --> 00:46:20.027
I think we've got 100 plus courses already uploaded and we've got some pretty good ones.

00:46:20.027 --> 00:46:25.387
Probably half of them are public, but they're, I would say, pretty good public courses.

00:46:25.387 --> 00:46:42.867
And then we've got another half of probably 50-plus private courses that are most of them are not local private courses, they're bucket list private courses that typically we don't air much of because most of them are members that you know donated and accompanied around or something.

00:46:42.867 --> 00:46:47.481
But I would encourage folks to check it out if they can, and anything that they bid on and win is really going to a great cause round or something.

00:46:47.481 --> 00:46:52.360
But I would encourage folks to to check it out if they can, and, uh, anything that they bid on and win is is really going to a great cause, and that's really what it comes down to.

00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.025
So yeah, I would say get on this.

00:46:55.025 --> 00:47:05.072
You know, I, my daughter, was in the NICU for a few weeks, so I know how hard that is on families and uh, yeah, definitely beneficial, definitely beneficial.

00:47:05.072 --> 00:47:25.849
Uh, something you guys probably I probably never even told any of you guys about this um, my half brother, my brother was born with half of a heart, um, who passed away at like uh, 10 months old, you know, and uh, this is similar to like r McDonald house in a way.

00:47:25.849 --> 00:47:41.771
Um, they put up my mom and uh, my stepdad, and they were able to stay there for 10 months to look after him while he got care, but he passed away, unfortunately, um, so, yeah, donate, go play some sick golf.

00:47:41.771 --> 00:47:49.085
Um, and yeah, it's a great cause because you know there's people out there that struggle way harder than we do.

00:47:49.085 --> 00:47:51.103
So, uh, great cause.

00:47:51.103 --> 00:47:55.072
And and throw some uh Gouda out there to help support.

00:47:56.721 --> 00:47:58.467
What got you doing this?

00:47:58.467 --> 00:47:58.940
What?

00:47:58.940 --> 00:47:59.664
What started it?

00:47:59.664 --> 00:48:03.356
For you, it's the eighth year, so it's been going on for a while, but what?

00:48:03.356 --> 00:48:04.521
What was it that made you go?

00:48:04.521 --> 00:48:07.789
Hey, we can do something with this going on for a while.

00:48:07.989 --> 00:48:10.039
But what, what was it that made you go, hey, we can do something with this.

00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:33.621
So probably close to eight years ago, um, ryan, the um, the dad of the charity, reached out, kind of just a cold, you know, dropped into the DM messages, um and uh, they had just started for Hadley and it was kind of in its very, you know, very early stages and their only event was a golf outing down in Atlanta and he reached out just to help market that, I think, if I remember right.

00:48:33.621 --> 00:48:39.233
And then he came up to Wisconsin, for I don't remember if it was the Ryder Cup or it was.

00:48:39.233 --> 00:48:47.684
He was in, he was in the state for something and we met up and this was, like I said, like seven or eight years ago and eventually we just kind of brainstormed like how could we do more?

00:48:48.706 --> 00:48:58.190
And this idea of you know, this auction came up and you know, part of my involvement is helpful for getting the word out, just for auction bidders and stuff like that.

00:48:58.190 --> 00:49:11.998
But that's that's kind of how it came up.

00:49:11.998 --> 00:49:27.701
Yeah, ryan just reached out randomly and my real job I work in health care and I do see a lot of how this, you know, charities and funding and stuff for families and you know sick pediatric patients, how far it goes and it does.

00:49:27.701 --> 00:49:39.690
It's a really cool thing and it helps quite a bit and I, you know he reached out and kind of explained everything and you know the story and everything I was, I was on board, so is there if?

00:49:39.911 --> 00:49:43.139
if people don't want to bid on golf, is there a way for them to donate?

00:49:43.139 --> 00:49:46.269
Just throw $20 out there, $40 out there.

00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:48.425
Yeah, there's a couple different ways.

00:49:48.425 --> 00:49:49.623
People can donate.

00:49:49.623 --> 00:49:54.965
Right on the 4Hadley website there's a donation spot, but otherwise there's also that's.

00:49:55.065 --> 00:50:02.788
F-O-R-E, right, yep, f-o-r-e, and then Hadley is H-A-D-L-E-Y, but there's also during the auction.

00:50:02.788 --> 00:50:09.545
If you don't want to buy golf, every the auction, uh, if you don't want to buy golf, there's.

00:50:09.545 --> 00:50:11.231
Every year we've had amazon gift cards or grocery gift cards or anything.

00:50:11.231 --> 00:50:21.746
For, like you said, joe, actually you're, you're completely on point most of the families are staying in ronald mcdonald houses or something equivalent in these areas when they're, you know, their kid is getting treated in the hospital.

00:50:21.746 --> 00:50:24.590
So those types of things go a very long way.

00:50:25.570 --> 00:50:28.516
Yeah, awesome, man, awesome.

00:50:28.516 --> 00:50:34.608
And so when the it goes live, when Next Tuesday, the 26th, yeah.

00:50:34.608 --> 00:50:37.726
Next Tuesday at noon, and how long does it run for?

00:50:38.541 --> 00:50:45.391
It goes through December 2nd, so every year we kind of time it around Thanksgiving and Black Friday.

00:50:45.391 --> 00:50:45.992
Yes, thank you.

00:50:45.992 --> 00:50:52.864
Black Friday, our goal is people are at their in-laws, drinking beers and bidding on golf Tugging at the heartstrings.

00:50:52.864 --> 00:50:53.945
Yeah, that's right yeah.

00:50:54.788 --> 00:50:55.128
So what?

00:50:55.128 --> 00:50:55.951
What is the?

00:50:55.951 --> 00:51:02.590
The the highest golf outing auction you guys have ever had, like the the?

00:51:02.990 --> 00:51:03.271
dollar.

00:51:03.271 --> 00:51:06.344
Uh, oh, for like one item.

00:51:06.860 --> 00:51:07.963
Yeah For the dollar proceeds.

00:51:07.963 --> 00:51:10.307
Why, oh you for like one item?

00:51:10.307 --> 00:51:12.972
Yeah for like what was the highest auction ever For what you're doing.

00:51:14.500 --> 00:51:16.226
Oh, like, total auction proceeds.

00:51:18.403 --> 00:51:20.670
No, no, like one, one, one one one one course.

00:51:20.751 --> 00:51:21.681
What did one course bring?

00:51:21.681 --> 00:51:24.427
We've had several break 10 grand for like a company threesomes yeah, these are you know.

00:51:24.427 --> 00:51:30.045
We've had several break 10 grand for like a company threesome yeah, these are you know.

00:51:30.045 --> 00:51:31.510
We've had courses in the Hamptons.

00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:36.911
We've had several in Texas that are very exclusive.

00:51:37.032 --> 00:51:39.465
We've had Hope your crypto is doing good, Joe.

00:51:41.768 --> 00:51:42.559
The Dormy Network.

00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:47.271
I will say the Dormy Network has supported us since basically, we started this.

00:51:47.271 --> 00:51:56.510
They donate every year and they donate memberships and then also stay in place and I think their membership, if it sells, usually goes for well over 10 grand.

00:51:56.510 --> 00:52:05.215
So yeah, I mean, the generosity of courses and individuals who are donating music, company rounds is just, it's really cool.

00:52:05.215 --> 00:52:10.166
I will say the golf community especially just seems to there's, there's something about it.

00:52:10.166 --> 00:52:13.663
It's, it's incredible and some of the courses that donate are just.

00:52:13.663 --> 00:52:16.414
We just had one yesterday that committed and this is the.

00:52:16.414 --> 00:52:19.043
This is the craziest, I think, coolest thing ever.

00:52:19.043 --> 00:52:28.192
There's a course in quebec and it's called, uh, sunset golf club, but it's a, it's a pitch and putt.

00:52:28.192 --> 00:52:30.400
Have you guys seen the videos that I posted this course?

00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.646
So it's, it's a pitch and putt.

00:52:32.646 --> 00:52:34.409
I'm right on it.

00:52:34.771 --> 00:52:36.052
I'm literally looking right at it.

00:52:36.420 --> 00:52:38.525
Yeah, so so go to their Instagram page.

00:52:38.525 --> 00:52:40.231
It's the coolest looking thing I've ever seen.

00:52:40.231 --> 00:52:50.516
So it's this guy who he's a real job and I think he's he's very well off because he bought this, bought this, basically plot of land outside of this small city in Quebec, outside of Montreal.

00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:52.827
Is it the little tiny holes in the forest?

00:52:53.289 --> 00:52:54.536
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

00:52:54.536 --> 00:52:55.559
But it's like a pigeon putt.

00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:05.686
So you go around this course and it's private, so you have to either have a membership or know someone and until you actually make your tea time, he doesn't even tell you what the address is.

00:53:05.686 --> 00:53:07.469
You can't find anything online about this.

00:53:07.469 --> 00:53:09.452
It's whoa yeah.

00:53:09.452 --> 00:53:17.304
But if you go to their Instagram account like they've got viral videos and people playing the course, they've got like 35,000 followers and I just reached out to him.

00:53:17.304 --> 00:53:19.387
I was like, dude, your course looks fantastic, like would you mind?

00:53:19.387 --> 00:53:20.585
And he's like oh yeah, we'll donate it.

00:53:20.585 --> 00:53:26.268
Donated a foursome, all you can golf in a day.

00:53:26.268 --> 00:53:28.742
And while you're there with your foursome, you get the entire course to yourself.

00:53:28.742 --> 00:53:30.748
He's like, yeah, who's got this?

00:53:33.382 --> 00:53:34.076
Happy to donate it.

00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:36.186
That's my boy, dustin.

00:53:37.001 --> 00:53:38.746
Shoot me a message Appreciate it man.

00:53:38.887 --> 00:53:39.690
That's fantastic.

00:53:39.690 --> 00:53:42.983
Osprey Meadows is so good.

00:53:42.983 --> 00:53:51.490
That's north of Idaho, it's about an hour and a half north of idaho right yeah, yeah, oh, I'll tell you what facebook coming through

00:53:51.911 --> 00:54:00.612
yeah, appreciate it coming through last last facebook comment we got was uh talking about me with fucking binoculars and milk.

00:54:00.632 --> 00:54:05.349
So yeah, that's another part of the country, though, though Idaho.

00:54:05.349 --> 00:54:07.333
Oh, the courses up there, just look.

00:54:07.333 --> 00:54:10.764
I've never been to Coeur d'Alene, yeah, but I will go to Coeur d'Alene to play golf.

00:54:11.505 --> 00:54:12.065
Yeah, yeah.

00:54:12.527 --> 00:54:18.527
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah my, you got some incredible courses in this auction list.

00:54:19.469 --> 00:54:23.331
Oh, yeah, yeah it's and it's all just people being generous.

00:54:23.331 --> 00:54:24.101
It's incredible.

00:54:24.101 --> 00:54:27.731
So so sick about the golf community, like everybody is.

00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:44.786
So like you know you're, you're, you weave your web in golf and you meet so many people and people are so, um, awesome just to play with and they're so generous to like just offering advice or like buying you a like as simple as buying you a beer.

00:54:44.786 --> 00:54:50.304
You know, like I'm on a golf course, like I, I don't mind if I have to buy you a beer.

00:54:50.304 --> 00:54:52.650
Like I'm happy to buy you a beer when I'm out there.

00:54:52.650 --> 00:55:02.030
And you know, the golf community is incredible and there's there's so many of us out there and there's so many, so many golf courses out there and so many places that everybody wants to see it's.

00:55:02.231 --> 00:55:08.480
It's incredible, it really is yeah, I play a lot of golf by myself just because I my schedule's weird.

00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.231
I work like seven on, seven off, and when I'm not working, if it's nice out, I'll go play golf.

00:55:12.231 --> 00:55:17.242
And a lot of times I get paired with random people and I, 50 of the time, at the end of the oh, you want to go in and grab a beer.

00:55:17.242 --> 00:55:19.648
It's like, yeah, you know, these people are just awesome.

00:55:19.648 --> 00:55:24.047
And as far as the auction goes, you know it's, I always think about it, you know.

00:55:24.047 --> 00:55:26.731
You know, these courses are donating a foursome.

00:55:26.731 --> 00:55:29.505
Okay, it's not a big deal, but the cumulative effect is nuts.

00:55:29.505 --> 00:55:31.530
We got a hundred plus courses.

00:55:31.530 --> 00:55:36.222
We're probably going to raise well over a hundred grand and it's just out of the generosity.

00:55:36.222 --> 00:55:38.188
It's, it's, it's really cool.

00:55:39.019 --> 00:55:41.188
Yeah, so amazing Golfers.

00:55:41.188 --> 00:55:43.985
Man, we're pretty awesome people.

00:55:46.364 --> 00:55:50.117
Not to gloat, but we're pretty cool we're pretty awesome people, yep Not to gloat.

00:55:50.137 --> 00:55:51.000
We're pretty cool people.

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.001
We're pretty cool.

00:55:53.385 --> 00:55:56.331
And we used to be looking at like the upper snob.

00:55:56.331 --> 00:55:56.592
Yeah.

00:55:58.822 --> 00:56:04.052
Yeah, it's crazy how it's changed Golf is becoming cool again for younger people, I think.

00:56:05.500 --> 00:56:05.842
It really is.

00:56:05.842 --> 00:56:14.670
They all need to go back to doing what they were doing before, covid, because I'm tired, oh hey.

00:56:14.670 --> 00:56:15.791
So what was the?

00:56:15.791 --> 00:56:21.246
Uh, the, the post you had the other day where I I shared my bunker, uh, the biggest pet peeve.

00:56:21.246 --> 00:56:22.731
What do you think was the most?

00:56:22.791 --> 00:56:26.206
that people said uh well, slow play.

00:56:26.206 --> 00:56:33.648
I mean, everyone says slow play, um, yeah, but there were a lot of people with with etiquette in general question or concerns.

00:56:33.648 --> 00:56:36.742
Uh, the bunkers was, was a big thing.

00:56:36.742 --> 00:56:43.340
Um, I had one kind of an interesting one, because I personally get a little bit annoyed.

00:56:43.340 --> 00:56:50.159
But then, if you think about it, it was someone who was saying, like people who wait on a t-box to try and drive a par four and they're an 18 handicap and then they duff it.

00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:54.471
But like, 18 handicaps can also tee a ball up and like it.

00:56:54.471 --> 00:57:04.389
It doesn't take one time and you smoke someone and then everyone feels really bad yep, yeah, yeah, yeah you know like that's more course layout.

00:57:04.409 --> 00:57:05.010
Yes, I agree.

00:57:07.820 --> 00:57:09.706
That's more the courses issue, I think.

00:57:10.228 --> 00:57:15.731
Yep, yeah, you can't have a par 3 and a drivable par 4 and a par 5-0 in a row.

00:57:15.731 --> 00:57:16.271
It doesn't work.

00:57:16.271 --> 00:57:17.943
No, not at all.

00:57:18.967 --> 00:57:19.349
Not at all.

00:57:19.349 --> 00:57:25.646
I thought the one comment the guy said it's a hazard, it doesn't need to be raked.

00:57:25.646 --> 00:57:28.204
No, it does.

00:57:28.204 --> 00:57:30.190
Yeah, I mean I am.

00:57:30.471 --> 00:57:37.643
I know I told you guys about this, but like there was the bunker at boulder creek, um on desert hawk seven.

00:57:37.643 --> 00:57:42.197
You know footprints everywhere and there was a rake in the middle of the bunker.

00:57:42.197 --> 00:57:51.429
Like someone took the rake, went in to hit their shot and they left the rake in the middle of the bunker and they didn't like take the rake out or rake it.

00:57:51.429 --> 00:57:59.141
You know it's like obviously you were trying to be considerate but you probably hit a bad shot and you're like, oh fuck, that you know.

00:57:59.141 --> 00:58:00.867
So it was bad.

00:58:00.867 --> 00:58:02.286
That bunker was really bad.

00:58:02.967 --> 00:58:09.072
People always make the argument about, like, if your ball lands in a fairway divot and it's you know it's in the divot you should be able to take your ball out.

00:58:09.072 --> 00:58:14.016
I would argue more that if your ball is in someone's footprint in a bunker yeah that's more.

00:58:14.076 --> 00:58:18.972
That's more of a blatant like this person wasn't taking care of the course and now it's my fault.

00:58:18.972 --> 00:58:21.280
You know the fairway divots like.

00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.244
Even if you repair them, there's still a divot.

00:58:23.244 --> 00:58:24.967
You know it, it's sand filled or whatever.

00:58:24.967 --> 00:58:28.934
But, like in a bunker, theoretically everyone should rake it and make it perfect.

00:58:28.934 --> 00:58:32.012
When they leave it, your ball ends up in a footprint Like that's.

00:58:32.012 --> 00:58:33.320
That's really.

00:58:33.762 --> 00:58:37.840
I mean, that's typically the rules we play by now and the Vegas golf network.

00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.621
You know if you're in a footprint, you rake it.

00:58:39.621 --> 00:58:45.351
But you know, I think that's a an aspect of COVID golf, and's a good point.

00:58:45.811 --> 00:58:48.795
Could you imagine that happening on the PGA Tour?

00:58:48.795 --> 00:58:57.367
Could you imagine Scotty Scheffler walking up at Augusta and there's somebody crawled out the bunker the wrong way?

00:58:58.942 --> 00:59:00.266
Rake is in the middle of the bunker.

00:59:00.661 --> 00:59:02.025
Rake's in the middle of the bunker.

00:59:03.068 --> 00:59:08.661
I mean good heavens, it's at an all-time low right now.

00:59:08.681 --> 00:59:09.222
I mean good, Good heavens.

00:59:09.242 --> 00:59:10.344
Golf attitude is at an all-time low right now.

00:59:11.146 --> 00:59:14.070
It just goes to like look out for your fellow golfers, bro.

00:59:14.070 --> 00:59:15.492
Like leave it better than you found it.

00:59:15.492 --> 00:59:18.034
It's that simple Leave it better than you found it.

00:59:19.340 --> 00:59:19.820
Same thing with camping.

00:59:19.820 --> 00:59:20.744
You go camping in the forest.

00:59:20.744 --> 00:59:22.891
You don't leave your trash at the campsite.

00:59:22.891 --> 00:59:25.989
You pick it up and leave it pristine for the next person.

00:59:25.989 --> 00:59:29.606
Yeah, it's not that hard.

00:59:29.626 --> 00:59:30.822
Don't be a shit human.

00:59:31.364 --> 00:59:31.826
Yeah, yeah.

00:59:34.021 --> 00:59:35.766
My dad's last line is don't be a dick.

00:59:35.766 --> 00:59:37.431
Yeah, exactly.

00:59:38.483 --> 00:59:39.327
That's one of our rules.

00:59:39.327 --> 00:59:40.905
One of our rules.

00:59:42.623 --> 00:59:43.527
Hey, you guys didn't notice this.

00:59:44.300 --> 00:59:47.393
Oh wow, what Getting old Lost all of his hair.

00:59:47.454 --> 00:59:51.445
Oh wow, Getting old Lost all of his hair, lost his hair Getting old.

00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:52.942
Did she give you?

00:59:52.961 --> 00:59:53.664
papers bro.

00:59:54.164 --> 00:59:54.525
No no.

01:00:00.181 --> 01:00:13.081
I will say Matt, a couple of podcasts ago, or maybe it was a post that you put up, but there was an angle where it was looking kind of up at you and the flow you had out back made it look like you had these big burly mutton chops on the sides.

01:00:13.081 --> 01:00:17.451
I was like no, like what's going on here?

01:00:17.471 --> 01:00:23.226
and then I realized it was your hair out back this is this is like two weeks worth of facial hair right here.

01:00:23.226 --> 01:00:24.630
So, yeah, no, I don't.

01:00:24.630 --> 01:00:28.340
I don't grow the facial hair really but, that I think that was.

01:00:28.340 --> 01:00:33.849
I hadn't cut it since april I think it was last time I I'd cut it.

01:00:33.909 --> 01:00:48.974
So, yep, the hair is gone, just in time for the cold weather too not the smartest, not the smartest of ideas, but it was starting to bother me on the golf course, no more emails to send or Excel files to fill out.

01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.407
You know like VGN season's over.

01:00:53.222 --> 01:00:56.429
I've been doing more work on the VGN than I have during it.

01:00:56.429 --> 01:00:57.552
Good grief.

01:00:57.552 --> 01:00:59.724
Oh, we didn't talk about the finals.

01:01:01.208 --> 01:01:11.768
No, we did not, so I played like ass yeah yeah, yeah dan jeremy played well.

01:01:11.809 --> 01:01:14.132
Joe, you played well, I played decently.

01:01:14.152 --> 01:01:15.681
You didn't play great, but you played well.

01:01:16.282 --> 01:01:18.989
The golf course was very challenging.

01:01:19.048 --> 01:01:20.833
That eagle was pretty sick, though.

01:01:20.833 --> 01:01:24.411
I'll take that eagle all day, yeah where was this event?

01:01:26.621 --> 01:01:34.070
oh okay oh, that's two days and Dan's 65 times two right, yeah, no, that was at Bears Best 62.

01:01:34.070 --> 01:01:35.293
Oh, bears Best, that's what it?

01:01:35.293 --> 01:01:37.576
Was oh, hence bogey-free 62.

01:01:38.016 --> 01:01:38.155
Yes.

01:01:40.264 --> 01:01:42.329
Yep, can I tell you guys about this shot?

01:01:42.329 --> 01:01:42.570
I hit.

01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:44.161
Go ahead.

01:01:44.161 --> 01:01:45.668
Joe, I know I teased you guys.

01:01:45.668 --> 01:01:47.922
You did a little bit, I can hear it.

01:01:48.443 --> 01:01:50.626
All right, mike, have you ever played Boulder Creek?

01:01:50.626 --> 01:01:54.373
No, Next time you come out, you should come play Boulder Creek.

01:01:54.373 --> 01:01:57.610
We got Boulder Creek and we got Laughlin Ranch.

01:01:59.262 --> 01:02:04.550
We could probably go hit Laughlin Ranch on the way back, hit Boulder Creek.

01:02:04.550 --> 01:02:12.887
Boulder Creek great golf course, 27 holes, 18 of them are really good.

01:02:12.887 --> 01:02:16.329
The other nine is good but not as special.

01:02:16.329 --> 01:02:21.510
It's Coyote Run, eldorado and Desert Hawk.

01:02:21.510 --> 01:02:24.409
We played Coyote Run and Desert Hawk.

01:02:24.409 --> 01:02:32.307
Desert Hawk what's the one with the water basin that they released?

01:02:32.307 --> 01:02:33.090
That's seven, right?

01:02:33.090 --> 01:02:34.632
Yes, for the part three.

01:02:35.221 --> 01:02:37.588
So I played like shit.

01:02:37.588 --> 01:02:45.130
I played that whole like shit and I was so sad I felt like I was going to lose my mind.

01:02:45.130 --> 01:02:48.027
You know, I tugged it into the desert.

01:02:48.027 --> 01:02:52.905
I don't hit draws, but that time I did and I lost my ball.

01:02:52.905 --> 01:02:54.885
I took a drop.

01:02:54.885 --> 01:02:59.639
I hit it long left of the green, tight lie.

01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:11.045
And if you know Boulder Creek, desert Hawk, on number seven, there's a little nipple on the back of the green, that's where the pin was.

01:03:11.045 --> 01:03:22.757
A little nipple, a little nipple on the back of the green, that's where the pin was.

01:03:22.757 --> 01:03:31.989
I, I, I summoned my inner better golf tucson, max helma, cut spinner flopper and I hit the so sick.

01:03:31.989 --> 01:03:43.153
It hit like five feet left of the flag and it just hit and it just spun to the right about five feet and almost went in tap in parbert, par bogey, I don't remember, but it was sick.

01:03:43.153 --> 01:03:44.983
I thought you said you made an eagle.

01:03:44.983 --> 01:03:49.612
Oh, now, yeah, I was on two, oh, I thought this was like you.

01:03:49.632 --> 01:03:53.163
I was like, fuck, you went out of bounds, you lost one and you eagled it.

01:03:53.163 --> 01:03:53.885
What the fuck?

01:03:54.246 --> 01:03:59.322
oh no, I'm saying it was I'm saying it was the shot dude like I, literally okay I hit.

01:03:59.322 --> 01:04:00.224
I hit this thing.

01:04:00.224 --> 01:04:15.463
It hit five feet left of the pin bounced once and then just to the right, five feet towards the tell you what a good up and down feels as good as oh oh, absolutely oh

01:04:15.503 --> 01:04:34.974
my god well joe's, joe's eagle with joe, that's yeah, that's boner joe right there pulling off the shots that are like super trick, and if he pulls them off, hell yeah, it's he is absolutely crushing the ball off the tee right now.

01:04:35.755 --> 01:04:37.360
Yeah, he is.

01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.411
I mean like seriously, like what the hell?

01:04:40.411 --> 01:04:47.952
I mean, we were in front of him both days and both days the group was like you're testing him right.

01:04:47.952 --> 01:04:52.646
You're testing him right Because he should not be hitting that ball that far.

01:04:52.646 --> 01:04:54.048
What did you have?

01:04:54.048 --> 01:04:54.690
What did you have?

01:04:54.690 --> 01:04:57.067
100 yards, 110 yards in on number two.

01:04:57.981 --> 01:04:58.603
To number two.

01:04:58.603 --> 01:05:01.570
The first day I had 147.

01:05:01.570 --> 01:05:03.905
The second day I had 142.

01:05:03.905 --> 01:05:06.331
Yeah, into a par five.

01:05:08.121 --> 01:05:10.349
Now downwind, downhill, and it's firm and fast.

01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:12.954
Now what's the status on the ped testing here, man?

01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:21.021
yeah I wanted to test that driver make sure, because something, something's going on what's in that, babe?

01:05:21.844 --> 01:05:25.173
I have changed a few things, so I have joe.

01:05:25.253 --> 01:05:29.686
Joe swings out of his shoes with the driver so it's all for fun, like I'm not.

01:05:29.746 --> 01:05:33.244
I'm not like I'm not trying to do it, but I'm like trying to do it because it's fun.

01:05:33.244 --> 01:05:35.911
You're trying to do it, yeah he sends me a message.

01:05:35.951 --> 01:05:43.331
He goes hey is the is over the fence on three ob and I'm like over the fence on three.

01:05:43.331 --> 01:05:45.242
Where is there a fence on three?

01:05:45.242 --> 01:05:54.605
And I'm like or four on four on four on coyote run for the part five, that's the big dog like part five and I'm like where the hell.

01:05:54.605 --> 01:05:59.961
And so I'm trying to think and I said to sean I go is there a fence on four?

01:06:00.001 --> 01:06:09.929
we just got done playing it and he's like, no, and I'm like, and so I look over and I see the split rail fence like between the airport and the golf course farm farm fence.

01:06:09.949 --> 01:06:10.431
It's like a.

01:06:10.431 --> 01:06:13.806
It's like a wisconsin fence I go first off.

01:06:14.829 --> 01:06:17.217
I don't know, because no one's ever hit a ball over there.

01:06:17.217 --> 01:06:18.260
What are you doing over?

01:06:20.746 --> 01:06:21.929
there, yeah, he goes, it doesn't matter.

01:06:21.969 --> 01:06:34.534
I played two balls and got sixes with both of them oh shit, oh yeah, it was a good time man yeah, we had a good time we had uh four champions.

01:06:34.675 --> 01:06:35.920
Uh troy went, uh trey.

01:06:36.061 --> 01:06:43.023
Sorry, trey trey went back to back players troy sanders yes, uh, he went back to back with player of the year in the diamonds.

01:06:43.023 --> 01:06:49.889
Um, I don't know, I gotta, I, I gotta do something with this diamonds flight to to get, uh, these guys to to show up and play in these events.

01:06:49.889 --> 01:06:52.480
We've got to do something with this Diamonds flight to get these guys to show up and play in these events.

01:06:52.480 --> 01:07:00.786
We've got some great players that just didn't want to play and I don't know, so I've got to figure something out to make it a little bit more appealing.

01:07:01.407 --> 01:07:02.411
Just a thought.

01:07:02.411 --> 01:07:09.268
I don't know if this makes any sense, but I mean it probably doesn't make any sense.

01:07:09.268 --> 01:07:09.989
No, I'm stupid.

01:07:09.989 --> 01:07:11.213
Go ahead, Keep talking.

01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:16.184
Oh no, you have to say it now, you can't leave it like that, you've gone this far.

01:07:17.300 --> 01:07:18.505
We'll let you know if you're stupid or not.

01:07:18.505 --> 01:07:19.706
I think it's going to be dumb.

01:07:21.380 --> 01:07:22.286
We'll let you know if it is.

01:07:23.001 --> 01:07:24.987
It's going to be stupid, it's going to be dumb.

01:07:24.987 --> 01:07:36.001
Come on, say it, Joe Come it fuck it.

01:07:36.021 --> 01:07:36.460
No, no, it's stupid.

01:07:36.460 --> 01:07:38.864
Come on, man, I'll tell you guys later.

01:07:38.985 --> 01:07:39.505
I'll tell you guys later.

01:07:39.525 --> 01:07:42.269
Whiskey joe whiskey joe effect.

01:07:42.269 --> 01:07:44.773
Oh yeah, so I I I couldn't get my my head straight.

01:07:44.773 --> 01:07:49.315
Um, you know I I I realized something sunday afternoon it was.

01:07:49.315 --> 01:07:52.788
It was pretty embarrassing um not making any excuses.

01:07:52.788 --> 01:08:00.590
Not making any excuses, I was out there playing golf and just did not play well, but I suffer from anxiety.

01:08:01.161 --> 01:08:02.748
I have an anxiety issue.

01:08:02.748 --> 01:08:09.980
I take medicine daily to keep me level-headed and not wanting to punch people.

01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:12.873
To keep me level-headed and not wanting to punch people.

01:08:12.873 --> 01:08:23.257
And I got home Sunday night and I didn't take my meds Saturday or Sunday.

01:08:23.257 --> 01:08:26.059
So, yeah, I come Sunday night.

01:08:26.059 --> 01:08:33.685
Yeah, yeah, you gave yourself a haircut.

01:08:33.685 --> 01:08:35.389
Yes, gave a haircut.

01:08:35.389 --> 01:08:36.452
Um, it, that wasn't why.

01:08:36.452 --> 01:08:42.368
But uh, yes, I, I was not mentally there.

01:08:42.368 --> 01:08:51.310
I, I did not know that I was not mentally there until I got home and realized, fuck matt, you dumbass.

01:08:51.310 --> 01:08:55.261
Um, you know all the shit going on trying to make sure everything is perfect.

01:08:55.261 --> 01:09:00.073
Uh, leaving the house early, getting out there, just it's, you know it's tough.

01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:01.021
I mean it is.

01:09:01.021 --> 01:09:03.347
It's really tough to throw events like it.

01:09:03.347 --> 01:09:07.404
You know I I haven't done it in a long time, but you know it's.

01:09:07.404 --> 01:09:08.846
It's hard, it really is.

01:09:08.846 --> 01:09:10.570
It's stressful on the body.

01:09:10.570 --> 01:09:11.653
It's stressful on the mind.

01:09:12.220 --> 01:09:14.068
I'm very fortunate we've got a great group.

01:09:14.068 --> 01:09:16.467
You know we have a great group of people.

01:09:16.467 --> 01:09:22.369
There's a lot of people that help and want to help and you know I probably should allow more people to help me more.

01:09:22.369 --> 01:09:33.907
You know, jeremy sticks around and helps with the scoring, woody's always there in the morning to help me hand out scorecards, chapman helps a lot, um, and, and I'm really grateful for those guys.

01:09:33.907 --> 01:09:42.869
But, uh, you know when, when your mind starts doing stuff that uh, you're not prepared for, uh, golf just doesn't seem the same.

01:09:42.869 --> 01:09:46.868
So, uh, a little upset with myself for that.

01:09:46.868 --> 01:09:47.930
But hey, you know what that's.

01:09:47.930 --> 01:09:50.222
That's the way the cookie crumbled this past weekend.

01:09:50.403 --> 01:09:54.309
so yeah, I still had an absolute blast.

01:09:54.810 --> 01:09:55.891
Uh, it was so much fun.

01:09:55.891 --> 01:09:58.820
Uh, I did roll the new odyssey putter on sunday.

01:09:58.820 --> 01:10:01.346
Very happy with that thing it is.

01:10:01.346 --> 01:10:03.390
That is a really good stick.

01:10:03.390 --> 01:10:04.832
So that's gonna.

01:10:04.832 --> 01:10:08.806
That's gonna stick around for a little while and, um, we'll see.

01:10:08.806 --> 01:10:09.628
We'll see what happens.

01:10:09.628 --> 01:10:11.953
My last round of the year will probably be with Dan on Sunday.

01:10:11.953 --> 01:10:14.648
So I got knee surgery coming up.

01:10:14.648 --> 01:10:15.470
Surgery.

01:10:16.981 --> 01:10:17.725
You have it scheduled.

01:10:18.579 --> 01:10:19.505
Yeah, December 6th.

01:10:20.962 --> 01:10:21.826
Oh shit.

01:10:23.362 --> 01:10:24.527
It's only here, one at a time.

01:10:24.527 --> 01:10:28.073
Well, I have an MRI tomorrow to find out.

01:10:28.073 --> 01:10:29.260
Matt's in the house.

01:10:29.260 --> 01:10:31.908
Hey, we were just talking about how you didn't show up for the finals.

01:10:31.908 --> 01:10:40.144
I have an MRI tomorrow to determine if the right knee needs surgery as well.

01:10:40.144 --> 01:10:40.545
You?

01:10:42.210 --> 01:10:43.332
should go up to Wisconsin.

01:10:45.304 --> 01:10:46.368
You got one coming up too, Mike.

01:10:46.940 --> 01:10:48.176
Yeah, I got an MRI tomorrow.

01:10:48.176 --> 01:10:50.761
I threw my back out like six weeks ago and I got the whole numb leg.

01:10:50.761 --> 01:10:52.497
I threw my back out like six weeks ago and I got the whole numb leg.

01:10:52.497 --> 01:10:55.306
I've been on the.

01:10:55.306 --> 01:10:57.716
I tried to bowl last night.

01:10:57.716 --> 01:11:01.149
I'm in a bowling league and I almost fell on the ground trying to throw the ball.

01:11:01.149 --> 01:11:01.690
It wasn't good.

01:11:01.690 --> 01:11:03.186
You should probably start vaping.

01:11:03.186 --> 01:11:05.045
Yeah, I've heard that works.

01:11:05.619 --> 01:11:07.046
Yeah, I feel great.

01:11:07.046 --> 01:11:13.152
I didn't know that this is what they meant when it said like let's get old together, you know.

01:11:13.659 --> 01:11:24.908
Yeah it's a bad realization when, like the 70-year-old guy bowling next to you, is able to walk up and down the alley and you're waddling up to throw your ball, that guy was definitely cold plunging in the 80s.

01:11:25.020 --> 01:11:26.927
He's had all the surgeries already.

01:11:27.619 --> 01:11:33.560
Yeah, that's a good point, yeah already.

01:11:33.581 --> 01:11:34.122
Yeah, that's a good point.

01:11:34.122 --> 01:11:53.359
Yeah, dude, uh, when, when joe and I are doing the solstice, uh, we're sitting on the bus talking with this guy and and he was, yeah, he, he would look like he was in his 80s, right 86, I think he said he was 86 yeah, he has done every solstice right and he it's walking and he carries and he carries his own bag and I'm like what?

01:11:53.378 --> 01:11:57.453
if I get that old, that's what I want to be able to be doing, because uh I'm 86.

01:11:57.453 --> 01:11:59.881
I don't want to be sitting on my butt doing nothing.

01:11:59.881 --> 01:12:00.382
That's for sure?

01:12:00.422 --> 01:12:03.210
no, you gotta move, you gotta move, you have to move.

01:12:03.229 --> 01:12:07.190
Yes, yes absolutely blown away that's incredible, and that's.

01:12:07.190 --> 01:12:13.030
That's when we went, when we went to bandit this last time, and I'm like I'm my bag, I'm going to carry my bag.

01:12:13.030 --> 01:12:16.547
They get a caddy on trails but I'm going to carry this.

01:12:16.547 --> 01:12:18.903
90 year old man is doing it, you know.

01:12:19.585 --> 01:12:21.149
Yeah For 72 holes.

01:12:21.470 --> 01:12:23.885
Yeah, I was like good day.

01:12:24.686 --> 01:12:25.228
That's nuts.

01:12:25.729 --> 01:12:30.766
He's probably retired, he probably walks 18 every day, though I mean that guy's probably yeah absolutely.

01:12:30.766 --> 01:12:32.009
He's out there, he's grinding.

01:12:32.649 --> 01:12:35.694
He was a teaching pro when the course opened there, that's right.

01:12:35.715 --> 01:12:38.985
Yeah, wow, it's the thing, man, you got to move.

01:12:38.985 --> 01:12:41.247
Don't stop moving, keep pushing.

01:12:41.247 --> 01:12:43.908
You know you got to move, you have to.

01:12:45.001 --> 01:12:47.043
I don't think I got anything else on the dock after tonight.

01:12:47.043 --> 01:12:49.988
Mike, thanks for staying up late.

01:12:49.988 --> 01:12:51.872
I know this is past your bedtime.

01:12:51.872 --> 01:12:52.953
It's almost past my bedtime.

01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:55.006
That's all right.

01:12:55.006 --> 01:12:58.287
I appreciate you guys having me on and kind of taking over with the auction talk and stuff.

01:12:58.287 --> 01:13:04.067
I can't wait to watch that it's something that we really love to do and, to be honest, to be part of it.

01:13:04.067 --> 01:13:15.055
It's really about Four Hadley and all that, and to be a part of that and be able to contribute is something I take a lot of pride in and it's something that I'm, you know, really kind of honored to be a part of, because it's I think it's really neat.

01:13:15.881 --> 01:13:18.610
Do you guys have a live ticker showing how much money is being raised?

01:13:20.500 --> 01:13:20.701
Not.

01:13:20.701 --> 01:13:34.234
We could probably set one up, but there's one you can kind of figure out if you go to the auction page and you go to the general page of the auction as it's going on, it shows a running total of how many bids have been placed in the total so far.

01:13:34.234 --> 01:13:41.251
So, yeah, I think our, our best number, I think, was 117 grand and that was ironically during COVID.

01:13:41.251 --> 01:13:47.930
Uh, and I, I, I would put money on the fact that we're going to beat that this year, so it's going to be really good.

01:13:51.859 --> 01:13:52.081
I'm excited.

01:13:52.081 --> 01:13:53.162
Nice, we're going to blast it, blast it out.

01:13:53.182 --> 01:13:53.885
uh, I'll have it in the show notes.

01:13:53.904 --> 01:14:07.131
When the auction goes live we'll be sending it out to let everybody know we already got stuff that we're, you know, eyeballing to to to see can't say anything we don't want anybody to don't anybody know about them yeah, you don't want anyone undercutting you.

01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:08.743
Yeah, don't want anybody undercutting us.

01:14:09.024 --> 01:14:13.132
So, uh, man, looking forward to it.

01:14:13.132 --> 01:14:18.993
So again, thanks for coming on thanks for backing us up on our rankings for the vegas one.

01:14:19.113 --> 01:14:33.474
That was nice to hear that you would have came out with similar results, especially about valley high if you're, if you're, if you're a foursome of you know bachelor party guys and you're staying on the strip and you don't care what's being money?

01:14:33.474 --> 01:14:38.350
It's perfect, it's perfect, and that's what they cater to, I think even the on-course experience.

01:14:38.350 --> 01:14:41.088
There's cutting holes, it's kind of fun.

01:14:41.981 --> 01:14:43.167
I said this during the show.

01:14:43.167 --> 01:14:44.706
The vibe is pretty cool.

01:14:44.706 --> 01:14:48.229
There you got the outdoor little tiki hut there the music's playing.

01:14:48.229 --> 01:14:50.166
It's a great little vibe.

01:14:53.121 --> 01:14:53.882
And the food is really good.

01:14:53.882 --> 01:14:57.555
But as local golfers, I completely, I completely get why you guys aren't friends.

01:14:57.555 --> 01:14:58.838
I completely get it.

01:14:59.038 --> 01:15:11.364
Yeah, it's completely get it, yep, it's working yeah all right, joe, bring it home thank you for everybody tuning in to episode number three sorry, joe, oh it, oh Mike fucks me up, don't.

01:15:12.907 --> 01:15:16.369
This is important, Mike do not disconnect when we end the show.

01:15:16.530 --> 01:15:20.533
Okay, Joe All right, I don't tell a prompt right here.

01:15:20.614 --> 01:15:22.856
It was like I got to rewind it, dial it back.

01:15:25.280 --> 01:15:25.881
Dial it back.

01:15:29.048 --> 01:15:30.372
Hold for applause.

01:15:34.899 --> 01:15:37.766
Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode of the chasing daylight podcast, number 301, which is pretty crazy.

01:15:37.766 --> 01:15:39.050
I got a bean and cheese on ice.

01:15:39.050 --> 01:15:46.612
Uh, shout out mike from at beautiful golf courses for always supporting tuning in.

01:15:46.612 --> 01:15:56.751
Uh, appreciate you and go follow at beautiful golf courses because they post some incredible content and things that you need to go play, so go do that.

01:15:56.751 --> 01:15:59.619
Also, check out for hadley bid on the auction.

01:15:59.619 --> 01:16:03.891
There's some ones I have my eye on and you should probably have your eye on as well.

01:16:03.891 --> 01:16:06.984
Um, shout out these guys.

01:16:06.984 --> 01:16:11.850
And uh, prayers up for dad, because he has to have surgery soon.

01:16:11.850 --> 01:16:23.643
Until next week, we will see you later, thank you.

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