Jan. 8, 2025

E307: The TGL and the Evolution of Interactive Indoor Golf Experiences

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This episode delves into the emergence of TGL, a new format that blends technology with golf to captivate audiences in fresh ways. With compelling discussions on viewer reception, traditional vs. innovative gameplay, and the sport's future implications, we explore whether TGL represents a pivotal shift in golfing culture.

• TGL's debut match and the initial fan reaction
• Detailed analysis of TGL's entertainment value versus traditional golf  
• Recap of Harry Hall's impressive performance at the Sentry
• Predictions on the future of golf events and audience engagement 
• Insights into upcoming golf trips and events in the community

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Chapters

00:20 - Chasing Daylight Podcast Golf Discussion

11:32 - The Future of Golf Entertainment

18:52 - Indoor Golf League Discussion

22:30 - Golf Brand Competitions and Fan Engagement

28:37 - Golf Tech and Course Discussion

37:45 - Rankings and Subjectivity in Golf

47:46 - Golf Trip to East Coast

53:02 - Scottsdale Golf and Revere Recap

55:47 - Rebranding to 1440 Golf

01:02:41 - Trademark, Golf Updates, and Club Talk

Transcript
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What is up everybody?

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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast, number 307, on your radio dial this evening.

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Joe is here, dan is here, I am here.

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My name is Matt Jeremy.

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Oh, we'll jump on as soon as we walk through the door.

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Okay, jeremy is on his way here.

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He'll be here shortly.

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So a whole bunch of shit to talk about tonight.

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It's of nice, um, that we have a lot of content to talk about.

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So, uh, first off, I want to give a shout out to, uh, the golf stop, which, um, I will be there tomorrow.

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Golf stop, uh, indoor track band facility in west henderson on the saint rose parkway corridor.

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Um, awesome place, awesome place, great.

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You know, with it being crazy windy these few days, it's gonna be nice to be able to go inside and hit some good golf balls and get some good data, and that's what I'm looking to do there.

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Also want to give some love to roars, uh, roars golf company, uh, big show supporter and sponsor for us, and he's living the dream down there in Miami.

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And then also a big shout out Scott Russo, unwritten Law, letting us use that intro harmonic man.

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I love that song, brings back so many good memories.

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So this is a rundown.

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I jotted all this down and we can pick and choose whatever we want to talk about.

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Harry was at the Century, had a top-ten finish out at Kapalua.

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That was a blast to watch, even though he got no TV coverage near the end.

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It's like there's only three groups on the course.

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Can we get some Harry Hall shots, please?

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But no, tgl first match was tonight on on espn.

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That's going to be the hot topic, so we'll be talking about that.

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Uh, what is 1440 golf?

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Uh, yeah, I'll.

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Maybe, if anybody cares, I'll talk about why the breakfast ball, the breakfast ball, is gone.

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Um, golf week, golf week magazine came out with their courses.

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You have public access to best in state list.

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That's a mouthful.

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So I've got the top 15 that they posted and we can chastise and criticize and do it.

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What everybody does to us.

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That might be fun.

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We played some golf out of Revere this past weekend.

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Joe and Dan are headed to South Carolina, jeremy's going to Scottsdale and Adele was bought by Pens and Aces.

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Nobody saw that coming.

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So thanks everybody for tuning in.

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And boys, what do you want to start the show with?

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Do you want to go to the hot topic and just go right to?

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TGL.

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Start off with TGL.

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Let's start off with TGL.

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Joe has been a huge proponent of TGL.

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He has not said one bad thing about it.

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I even tried enticing him into saying some negative things in a text chat tonight and he'd deflect, deflect, but it was on ESPN tonight, national broadcast, tiger Woods saying you know, 260 countries this was being previewed in.

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It was better than I thought I honestly I thought the production value was really good.

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Espn knows what the hell they're doing.

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I think some of the things that were lacking was statistics.

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Occasionally they threw up ball speed and stuff like that.

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They have all that.

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Why they're not using it more, I don't know.

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Maybe they're trying to keep stuff off the screen and not be so Livy and F1 type stuff, but overall I thought it was entertaining.

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It's a Tuesday night.

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What else are you going to watch?

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It's a filler between Sundayay and thursday for us golf nuts.

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So, dan, I know joe's probably gonna have a million things to say.

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So, dan, uh, let's get in your your two cents and then we'll uh, we'll, unleash the kraken no, I thought, uh, I thought it was pretty cool.

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Um, I can.

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Um, what I really liked off the bat was seeing that you can hit off of real grass, fairways, rough and sand.

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I think that was a pretty cool touch.

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How about the lip being raised to in the bunker?

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Did?

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you see that.

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That was cool.

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Yeah, that's it's like.

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It seems like all the little details were kind of thought out, thought ahead of and it looks good on tv so far, um, the green complex, spinning and and that whole.

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You know the way the little uh jacks underneath the uh, underneath the green can make the contours change.

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That I think that's pretty cool.

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The one thing I didn't like a whole lot about it was the green shape never changed.

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I mean, the holes all changed, but the green shape never did, and I wish that there was like a way where you can, you know, change the greens.

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Um, I know they can change the they can change lies and in the areas that are flat they can manipulate those.

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But I I was expecting the, like the whole green, to change yeah, that's.

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That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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Yeah, there was the middle high point and two low points on the left and right and that was on every shot and I and I get it.

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That's what the green is, but I would rather see a more intricate, rounder green and have them be able to change it yeah, yeah, I wish that could be maybe something addressed in the future or something.

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Um, because it just kind of seemed like after a while, these guys are going to know how the brakes are when the green contours never change.

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Yeah, um, but um, other than that, I thought it was pretty fun, um, especially, like I said, for a tuesday night.

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I mean, what else you're going to watch?

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You know it provides it entertainment, that's for sure.

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It's definitely already, I think, in my opinion, already a little bit better production value than anything Liv has put up.

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Oh, by a mile, but yeah, I mean, it's something different.

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It's going to not guarantee you not everybody's going to love it, but I give it a thumbs up.

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I thought it was cool.

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I was perusing twitter before we came on and, uh, a lot of grumpy old men out there matt janella being one of them, which really surprised me.

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Um, luke judge on instagram hey, thanks for everybody that's tuned in.

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We got a bunch of people.

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Miles is on there.

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Tim flote is on there.

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Rocky's on thereay is on there.

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Rocky is on there.

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Luke Judge is asking is there only one stadium for it?

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Yeah, everything.

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It's one venue in Palm Beach, florida, that they play all the matches at.

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It would be crazy to make that in more than one place.

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It would be cool, but it's a huge investment.

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Oh yeah, but you never know.

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I mean, if it blows up and this goes crazy, then you may have venues in other cities.

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Another thing, dan, to add on to your mild grapes the team names is just dumb.

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They are dumb.

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They're very stupid.

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It's bad.

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I mean xander shoffley and ricky fowler, cal or california kids, what are you doing?

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Playing for the new york?

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New york golf club from england yeah, you know, it doesn't make any sense, so uh I.

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I do understand that he's on the boston team I do understand that in the sense of like.

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If you're creating like an nfl you know, you're not gonna I?

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I mean it's gonna take some time to grow I understand that.

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I seriously doubt anybody in new york gives a shit that xander shoffley's on their team.

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You know it doesn't matter.

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It doesn't like I get cameron young.

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I mean cameron young or something you know.

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So anyways, all right, joe, you've been a big proponent of this, let's, let's hear it I have.

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I mean I, I I enjoyed it.

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Right it's, it's digestible golf for the masses.

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I mean that's really what it is right.

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It's quick, quick to the point like bang, bang bang.

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I thought it was a little too quick.

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I mean I'm a golfer, but it is what it is.

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Um, I thought it was entertaining.

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This is not real golf, it is entertainment golf.

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It is, uh, to put golf in front of more eyes.

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And I understand that.

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And if you just take in the account that korea is one, one of the biggest places where golf is consumed and they don't play actual golf, they play golf on simulators.

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So it is the wave.

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I mean technology has changed our way of life over the past 20 years tremendously right.

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Like I mean just thinking I the first iphone and it's changed tremendously.

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Like I had the, I had the silverback gorilla iphone.

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I was one of the first to have it and it is what it is and it's changed tremendous, tremendously, but um, I thought it was enjoyable.

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It's hilarious.

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Um, I thought it was enjoyable, uh it.

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It will never replace real golf.

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It will never replace being out there and they're not trying to.

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And that's what I think that's where a lot of the old timers because I had a little beef with someone on X about that and you know, and they're not trying to do that you know the technology has changed everything the way we consume food, the way we watch television, everything the way we communicate, and it was inevitable until it reached golf.

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And it has reached golf and it's nice that we have the players that we like to watch on the weekends being able to play golf and it's not the same teams every week.

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This is a two-hour format where you can digest golf in a fun atmosphere, be entertained for two hours and, uh, enjoy some shots.

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They're hitting off real grass.

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I mean the, the screen is bigger than anything you'll ever play on and you know the technology is amazing.

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But you know I where going to take time to teach it how to grow and learn.

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And you know this is the first.

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This is the first plate that they've served and I thought it was good.

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I mean it's going to take some time until they they get that five course meal and it.

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I believe it'll happen.

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This will never replace the masters's, never gonna replace pga champion.

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You know that.

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That's not what it is, and I think people need to get that through their head.

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This is a weekday entertainment, uh viewing experience and and just watch.

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This is not real golf, this is entertainment, you know, I think people need to get that to their heads top golf changed the way, you know, people practice golf.

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They made it golf attainment.

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Pop stroke has changed the way people putt and you know, now it's more golf retainment.

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This is golf retainment, with some of the best golfers in the world playing at a decked out, tech infused environment a little bit of a crowd, I think they're.

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They're going to find out what works, what doesn't work.

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I was telling Joe, or in our chat, I was saying you know, it would be awesome to have their caddies there in the booth.

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You know, talking just about the golfers a little bit, that might be fun.

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There's all kinds of different things that they can do.

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It's easy to pick apart, you know, the, the things that we don't like.

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Like the camera angles on some of them were like really bad.

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Uh, they can fix some of that, but yeah, and some of the camera like the contrast on some of those cameras were garbage.

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They looked like cartoon characters that one with Ricky I don't know what they were doing with that one, but that was.

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That was weird, yeah, but overall, overall, I thought it was, I thought it was good, I, I, I think they got to stop with the gimmies make them just put it out.

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You know I understand it's just for fun and everything, but I think be surprised how many putts those guys miss.

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You know that they're giving them gimmies.

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I will say one thing is like this was a blowout.

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I think they could have.

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I think it would have been much better if it was a closer match, like I'm sure they were.

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You know, I'm sure they were begging for it to come down to the wire.

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Just he's gonna win, totally like and, and you know, I'm sure they were begging for it to come down to the wire.

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So he's going to win Totally Like and, and you know, we got to see some of their personalities, like Xander's like throw the hammer, throw it, just do the hammer, fucking, throw it, you know, and I think I think it's a a escape for them from the grind of actual true golf and we're going to get to see more personalities from the game through this than we than we saw on um full swing or even on, you know, the, the pga coverage.

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I think it's going to come out eventually and I think they're going to get more comfortable with it and I think, I think it's going to bring us closer to some of our favorite players in the long run.

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Do you think Shane Lowry's going to get fined for his F-bomb drop, since Colin Maracal was getting fined?

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No, I don't think so.

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I wish they'd let it go.

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Oh, it was hilarious.

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I mean, he's giving a total compliment to Ludwig.

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He's like what a fucking shot that was.

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I think that's great.

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I mean, you know, when we play golf with each other, we are, we're out there and there's no boundaries, you know, and I I think that's what we want to see from the people that we look up to.

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You know, I don't look up to them per se, but you know, I want to play golf like they do and I respect their game.

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Yeah, I think it gives it's potential that it can give us a window into how they exist off of the course when they are free.

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Did you, did you hear the jab at Xander when he said, when he was chipping on the green and he goes oh, I chunked it, they go, oh, oh, it's probably that calloway ball, it's like oh, shots fired shots fired

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I think that I think it's going to give us a lot of those little moments.

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They're going to be great.

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Yeah, uh, the.

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So one thing I noticed was, on chipping, a lot of those balls came out really low.

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I mean, I I know that they have the pros can you know, hit those little low spinners better than we can, but it looked like, uh, maybe they didn't get enough practice over there or whatnot.

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But, um, and I do feel like that green might not have been working the way they wanted it to, because there was that high point that was feeding and, uh, if they get rid of that high point, I think it can pneumatically move better if you want to totally nerd out and I'll all, let me write this down so I don't forget um to post this in the show notes but if you want to totally nerd out on some golf data, um, the sweet spot podcast, uh, a little couple episodes back, um broke down, uh chipping and and the club going into the ball off of turf versus grass, and I mean it's great If you want to to nerd out, if you don't care, don't worry about it.

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But uh, yeah, they should have hired southwest greens.

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Yeah, right, uh, good stuff though.

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Good stuff though.

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Um, so what do you think?

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What?

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What's the life expectancy for this?

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Do you think it's a couple seasons?

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Are they expecting for it to go longer than that?

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How long do you think it's going to be around?

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Go ahead.

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I think it's probably.

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I mean, I think the novelty will wear off eventually.

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They're going to have to figure out different formats, maybe incorporate some YouTube golfers, I don't know.

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But yeah, I can see that this can probably have a couple good seasons.

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First one to work the kinks out.

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Second one to try to maybe perfect it.

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But you know, eventually people are going to be like, okay, yeah, it's.

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You know.

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Eventually people can be like, okay, yeah, it's.

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You know, it is what it is.

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I don't, I think that if there's not, like constant innovations and that type of that type of entertainment, it will uh, it will fade a little bit, I think I.

00:17:18.911 --> 00:17:24.808
I agree with what joe said, as long as people understand this is entertainment purposes only.

00:17:24.808 --> 00:17:25.730
This is not.

00:17:25.730 --> 00:17:27.933
You're not getting world ranking points.

00:17:27.933 --> 00:17:29.807
You're not getting into majors.

00:17:29.807 --> 00:17:33.619
You're not, you know, locking up Ryder Cup positions.

00:17:33.619 --> 00:17:40.814
This is for fun on a Tuesday, before these guys head off to play their golf tournament for the week.

00:17:41.779 --> 00:18:08.704
I mean, xander was in Hawaii, you know, two days ago, so, um, maybe a little jet lag with him tonight, yeah um, but I, I think, as long as everybody understands that and uh, you know it can be seen as hey, you know, let's, let's throw on tgl tonight and see what's going on, um, you know, after jeopardy or whatever people are watching I think there's more to it than that.

00:18:08.786 --> 00:18:12.820
I think they're betting on the future of golf that is already here.

00:18:12.820 --> 00:18:15.826
I mean, like, shout out the golf, stop.

00:18:15.826 --> 00:18:17.028
You know.

00:18:17.028 --> 00:18:19.574
You know, shout out, five iron shot.

00:18:19.574 --> 00:18:40.880
I mean, there's so many of these facilities popping up and this is the new wave of golf and you know, if there's not a facility that has the room to throw up a 65 by 100 foot screen, I mean people that can get into the facilities that are hitting into the screens are going to aspire to play that arena.

00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:51.807
You know, and I think, um, they are, they have, they have placed a big bet on the future of golf, which the future of golf is already here and it's growing.

00:18:52.008 --> 00:19:14.205
Obviously, like I mentioned, um, I mean, and it's not golf, okay, like you know, golf is played outside and you know, like one of the guys said, old old Tom Morris would be turning in his grave, and I I did agree with, I did agree with him, right, and so would CB McDonald and AW Tillinghast and all these other guys.

00:19:14.205 --> 00:19:28.385
You know, one of the things I love about golf is being able to get out for four hours with my friends and play outdoors and enjoy being out in nature and this TGL will never replace that.

00:19:28.385 --> 00:19:35.420
Like it's just not going to happen.

00:19:35.420 --> 00:19:54.163
And the golf stop leagues, like they fill in the moments between your moments where you can get out and actually play, because we can't play golf all the time, you know, but maybe squeeze in an hour and go hit up the golf stop to play indoors and and find out what you're doing.

00:19:54.163 --> 00:19:59.061
So this is two hours, you know how long does a golf tournament last?

00:19:59.061 --> 00:20:01.458
All fucking day, because there's four days.

00:20:02.340 --> 00:20:04.286
Exactly so I think.

00:20:04.286 --> 00:20:18.222
I think it's fulfilling a thing, something that's in between what golf actually is and it's giving you some entertainment value once a week where you can sit down for two hours, have some fun and enjoy it.

00:20:18.222 --> 00:20:20.846
I think the longevity is there.

00:20:20.846 --> 00:20:31.141
I do believe that maybe they bring in some youtube golfers, create some other teams, you know, and like the whole team, the whole team situation is all fucked.

00:20:31.141 --> 00:20:39.946
I don't understand it at all, but um, never have understood the team I think this is a a breakout breakout concept that can go far.

00:20:40.488 --> 00:20:45.866
It just depends on how this first season goes and how they can tweak what needs to be tweaked.

00:20:46.308 --> 00:20:50.144
Yeah, what about Ricky Fowler chucking the flag in front of Lowry?

00:20:50.144 --> 00:20:51.560
That was hilarious.

00:20:53.156 --> 00:20:54.141
I wish they can be like.

00:20:54.141 --> 00:21:01.941
I feel like those guys when they were out playing practice rounds and stuff like that.

00:21:01.941 --> 00:21:03.777
There's so much shit talking going on.

00:21:03.777 --> 00:21:08.663
Oh, so much, and that's the shit I want to hear.

00:21:08.663 --> 00:21:23.082
And I know they've got to keep it PC and keep it clean for ESPN, but I kind of wish they had a little bit of liberty or maybe this was like a Netflix stream or something like that, where they can actually just be themselves and just talk shit the whole time.

00:21:23.501 --> 00:21:36.105
Yeah, throw it on espn plus throw on that you know, like you know, and some of these guys, like shane lowry, for instance, like you know, shane lowry wanted to crack a beer right there and just start talking shit you know I love that shit.

00:21:36.165 --> 00:21:36.968
I, I wanted that's.

00:21:36.968 --> 00:21:40.903
That's the golfers I want to see and get to know and get the real behind the scenes.

00:21:40.903 --> 00:21:51.882
I mean this is cool, this is great, but, like I said, there's like Joe said too, maybe like this first season is where they work out all the kinks, and then next season or you know, a couple of seasons down the road.

00:21:51.882 --> 00:21:57.384
You know, maybe they do go to ESPN Plus and that, you know, has become something that they do.

00:22:01.755 --> 00:22:03.402
I do love luke's take on having to draft corn fairy players.

00:22:03.402 --> 00:22:05.368
You're not going to get a tour card for playing indoor.

00:22:05.368 --> 00:22:06.614
No, no, I don't think it's.

00:22:06.634 --> 00:22:08.799
I don't think I don't think it's about the tour card.

00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:13.738
I think it's about introducing the stars of tomorrow to the forefront.

00:22:13.738 --> 00:22:19.221
That's what I think it's about, but I I do like that idea there's, there's four players on every team.

00:22:19.221 --> 00:22:23.771
Only three players play every week Like what if one of them was a Corn Fairy player.

00:22:24.094 --> 00:22:24.214
Yeah.

00:22:25.417 --> 00:22:29.401
And they're on the bench and when they get called up, they get called up, you know.

00:22:30.176 --> 00:22:35.520
Rob said I enjoyed listening to the banner among the pros and having to hang out with the boys' vibes soul golf with the pros.

00:22:46.795 --> 00:22:47.497
He said outside the majors, majors.

00:22:47.497 --> 00:22:49.182
I enjoyed watching this tonight as much as any middle of the road pga tournament.

00:22:49.182 --> 00:22:49.964
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was entertaining.

00:22:49.984 --> 00:22:50.727
It was just as good as john here.

00:22:50.727 --> 00:22:52.593
I mean, like you know, I probably would have rather watched this than john.

00:22:52.593 --> 00:22:58.404
I still, I still crave the f1 style callaway versus titulus versus cobra, ping versus.

00:22:58.404 --> 00:23:00.409
I would love to see that.

00:23:01.316 --> 00:23:04.733
I think that would be pretty good, Like the manufacturers yeah.

00:23:05.016 --> 00:23:17.805
Oh, just take the staffers, the top staffers from each brand and, you know, do it that way Through New York Club or Jupiter Links, whatever TaylorMade against Callaway, you know that would be.

00:23:18.356 --> 00:23:19.749
Oh yeah, that would be like that.

00:23:19.769 --> 00:23:37.640
It would be entertainment yeah right versus those you know the tour, edge and cobra and just you know get, just have some fun with the brands and you know to have some bragging rights like because everybody, every single manufacturer says number one club on tour.

00:23:38.020 --> 00:23:43.676
You know, number one irons amongst guys 50 older that have won three times on the senior tour.

00:23:43.676 --> 00:23:47.115
You know it's, there's all these little sub texts that go to we're the number one.

00:23:47.115 --> 00:23:47.916
This because of that.

00:23:47.916 --> 00:23:55.656
And hey, let's take your best players at your staffing and let's let's have some fun with it what's funny about that is you.

00:23:55.737 --> 00:24:07.769
You would create more of a fandom that way for sure, oh, yeah, because there's diehards like Team Mizuno or Team National Customs slash.

00:24:07.949 --> 00:24:08.249
VFO.

00:24:08.308 --> 00:24:11.291
Something like that Artisan.

00:24:11.291 --> 00:24:15.843
I mean you can have them play up the ranks or something.

00:24:15.843 --> 00:24:17.708
I think it would be good.

00:24:17.708 --> 00:24:21.064
I don't think it's possible, but I think it would be very fun.

00:24:21.064 --> 00:24:25.637
But that's for the nerds though, that's not for.

00:24:26.361 --> 00:24:30.901
I know I was happy to see that they all weren't wearing uniforms with silly logos.

00:24:30.901 --> 00:24:33.803
That they were all wearing their own stuff.

00:24:33.803 --> 00:24:39.087
That made it a little bit more appealing to me.

00:24:39.087 --> 00:24:45.182
Miles says and you know, these companies are making more from this than a small section of camera time here oh yeah, they're.

00:24:45.182 --> 00:24:48.411
I mean it's, sofi is killing it.

00:24:48.411 --> 00:24:52.060
I mean, wyndham clark and sofi were all over the place.

00:24:52.060 --> 00:24:55.007
So yeah, it's, it's big exposure.

00:24:55.468 --> 00:25:01.064
I think I think one mistake too is um, it looked like it.

00:25:01.064 --> 00:25:03.288
It looked like a VIP arena right.

00:25:03.288 --> 00:25:09.303
Like we couldn't go down to Palm Beach and like buy a ticket to this, like I don't think there's any chance for that.

00:25:09.303 --> 00:25:11.659
So I would have liked to see some more.

00:25:11.659 --> 00:25:26.510
You know, seats that are built up a little bit and I understand they didn't want to make the crowd look small, but if they wanted to turn into what they wanted to turn into, you know how am I going to get into that building?

00:25:26.510 --> 00:25:29.765
I probably can't, unless I know somebody you know.

00:25:30.714 --> 00:25:31.820
Yeah this right here.

00:25:32.315 --> 00:25:34.501
Excited to hear Kisner on a live mic next week.

00:25:34.501 --> 00:25:36.326
Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:36.326 --> 00:25:42.046
And Julian's chiming in about tech stuff, about the pre-data fitting hands.

00:25:42.046 --> 00:25:45.182
Yeah, we'll get to that later, julian, we're talking DGL right now.

00:25:46.396 --> 00:25:47.481
Matty Woods, 59.

00:25:48.237 --> 00:25:49.221
Dan, you know who that is.

00:25:50.095 --> 00:25:56.356
Yes, that is the Matt Marino aka Darknesses, aka.

00:25:56.356 --> 00:25:59.508
I play all the top 100 all the time.

00:25:59.535 --> 00:26:00.351
The legend Shout out to you all the time.

00:26:00.351 --> 00:26:03.060
The legend Shout out to you for Purcell Appreciate you.

00:26:04.506 --> 00:26:04.766
Yes.

00:26:05.615 --> 00:26:06.136
That was.

00:26:06.718 --> 00:26:09.403
Purcell was the number one Alabama public course that you can play.

00:26:11.286 --> 00:26:11.886
On the list.

00:26:13.328 --> 00:26:17.640
He said SimGolf, oh, he called you Hodge, so I mean, do we got to go that?

00:26:17.701 --> 00:26:18.784
way I have a lot of big names.

00:26:18.784 --> 00:26:19.967
Okay, all right.

00:26:22.076 --> 00:26:24.227
SimGolf is bigger than real golf in, uh, korea, japan, china.

00:26:24.227 --> 00:26:26.395
Fact that matters is how most people can be exposed to golf.

00:26:26.395 --> 00:26:31.386
The us got their introduction tonight and this can only I can't say that.

00:26:31.386 --> 00:26:32.615
I'm tired of saying that.

00:26:32.615 --> 00:26:35.799
So, uh, do you think live events still make money?

00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:36.861
Not like they used to?

00:26:36.861 --> 00:26:50.090
I think, um, live events, like pga tour live events or this, because so high, I'm sure is pretty happy with tonight.

00:26:50.090 --> 00:26:52.557
I'm sure they're making a lot of money and I don't know what tickets.

00:26:52.557 --> 00:26:57.619
So I have to reach out to some people that I know that were there and see what it cost them to get in the gate.

00:26:58.481 --> 00:27:03.603
He might be saying live, maybe my interpretation, but who knows?

00:27:06.717 --> 00:27:10.137
Luke Judge says do live events to make money, not like they used to, I think.

00:27:11.001 --> 00:27:11.323
Gotcha.

00:27:12.174 --> 00:27:14.577
Hey, shout out Luke Judge Beth Page.

00:27:14.577 --> 00:27:17.332
Ambassador, appreciate you.

00:27:18.096 --> 00:27:21.042
Joe Play oh hey, look Kind of Bethpage.

00:27:21.042 --> 00:27:28.163
Ish yeah Right here dancing Warning shirt yeah.

00:27:28.615 --> 00:27:30.301
You got it, have you played it?

00:27:31.217 --> 00:27:40.897
No, but I know somebody who has One one degree Is separation this is not A Bethpage shirt, it's a it's shirt.

00:27:40.897 --> 00:27:45.799
It's a faux, it's a parody shirt.

00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:46.000
Okay.

00:27:49.737 --> 00:27:54.201
One thing if he is talking about live, like you know, pj is skipping Vegas this year.

00:27:54.201 --> 00:27:56.345
Liv is skipping.

00:27:56.385 --> 00:27:56.849
Vegas this year.

00:27:56.849 --> 00:27:57.295
Liv is skipping Vegas.

00:27:58.095 --> 00:28:06.784
I mean, what bigger city that is being passed over by some major golf tournaments to skip over than las vegas we are?

00:28:06.784 --> 00:28:09.556
We are becoming the sports capital of the world.

00:28:09.556 --> 00:28:12.582
If you don't want to be here, I don't know what's wrong with you.

00:28:12.582 --> 00:28:22.296
We are diehards for our sports currently and, uh, if you want to pass this up, that's your fault, because we have great golf courses.

00:28:22.296 --> 00:28:23.458
It's just a big.

00:28:23.458 --> 00:28:25.542
We have a big golf fan base.

00:28:25.542 --> 00:28:32.544
There are no tee times available ever, unfortunately, with courses closing all the time, and you know what?

00:28:32.544 --> 00:28:36.559
What better place than to play tgl in the sphere than here?

00:28:37.321 --> 00:28:41.594
yeah, uh, maddie said the tech display tonight was awesome.

00:28:41.594 --> 00:28:42.576
What do you guys think about that?

00:28:42.576 --> 00:28:44.381
I like, I would like to see more.

00:28:44.381 --> 00:28:46.164
I want to see a little more.

00:28:46.164 --> 00:28:48.738
Uh, I want to see more ball speed data.

00:28:48.738 --> 00:28:59.326
I want to see, I want to see them go into, uh, you know the, the clubs, the guys are playing, the, the you know bringing some nerdy I know that's not high entertainment value, it's.

00:28:59.487 --> 00:29:02.018
It's more for, you know, nerdy guys like me.

00:29:02.018 --> 00:29:20.525
But uh, I would still like to maybe expose, if we're exposing people to the game and trying to grow, um, maybe some of that information would be interesting to those people and miles said it ain't philly, and you are correct, sir, you are correct there.

00:29:20.925 --> 00:29:25.061
But um, what I would say is, as far as the tech, the tech was great.

00:29:25.061 --> 00:29:38.185
Okay, like I, I don't think the majority needs to see the data, but what I would love to see is the green pneumatically changing on every hole.

00:29:38.185 --> 00:30:01.748
Yeah, I'd love to see a close-up of the pumps under the green, moving the brake like a close-up, like a espn, like this, you know, scroll, you know, and and I deep down, I feel like it wasn't working tonight, you know, because they had that little high spot it didn't change down and it didn't change, so I somebody forgot to pay the pneumatic pump bill.

00:30:02.415 --> 00:30:05.922
If those motors are not there, then they need to put motors there and move.

00:30:05.922 --> 00:30:06.703
That I think.

00:30:06.703 --> 00:30:17.295
I think, like during those moments they could like do, like a, you know, a quick little roll around and, like the green could be, you know, like a wave and moving.

00:30:17.295 --> 00:30:20.721
I think that would be entertaining, oh yeah, and it changes every time.

00:30:21.021 --> 00:30:22.765
Yeah, absolutely Exactly.

00:30:22.785 --> 00:30:23.787
Throw a heat map on.

00:30:23.886 --> 00:30:24.769
Yeah, totally Sick.

00:30:29.795 --> 00:30:32.193
Well, I would like to see them incorporate what putt view does, and you know have some of that.

00:30:32.193 --> 00:30:37.047
The graphics come down on the green, showing the break showing.

00:30:37.047 --> 00:30:43.221
You know, have the little shot tracer that follows the ball, not on all of them, but like on made shots, replay it with the shot.

00:30:43.301 --> 00:30:55.144
Right, there's, there's things that could be done I also think that's the putting and chipping area I also think the holes are so fucking out of this world, so wild, like we'll never oh my god, we'll never see that one.

00:30:55.144 --> 00:30:56.426
That was like a w like.

00:30:56.426 --> 00:31:06.969
It was like there's no land on earth where you could design that green no and I think that the last one is 746 par five.

00:31:06.989 --> 00:31:07.950
Yeah, with the left.

00:31:07.970 --> 00:31:13.472
Yeah there's no land on earth where you could buy to build a golf hole like that to make it fit into a golf course.

00:31:13.472 --> 00:31:19.722
But if they had, like I, I think they're missing the point.

00:31:19.722 --> 00:31:38.067
On um, the first time the holes displayed, like having whoever designed that in the digital world explained their thought process about behind it and they've done that on instagram like pizza golf he's a mexican golfer or a golf architect.

00:31:38.067 --> 00:31:41.998
He's a mexican golfer or a golf architect.

00:31:41.998 --> 00:31:42.859
He's designed some really cool shit.

00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:51.305
But like introducing a hole for the first time, like just say, like their, their thought process behind it, like 20, 30 seconds, I think that would have been cool.

00:31:51.305 --> 00:31:58.001
Like that, that hole with the landing point in the middle and it fucking wings out like who came up with that shit?

00:31:58.001 --> 00:31:59.224
That's just wild.

00:31:59.664 --> 00:32:08.237
We'll never see that in the real world no I think just their thought process, like a little clip thinking about that would have been really cool.

00:32:08.257 --> 00:32:09.981
I'd like to see a 20 yard fairway.

00:32:09.981 --> 00:32:16.499
You know, just make it incredibly hard to hit, then it cliffs on both sides, you know.

00:32:16.499 --> 00:32:20.185
Yeah how good are you, how good are you right now?

00:32:20.886 --> 00:32:26.666
so I thought it was interesting that when, when matt fitzpatrick said hey, I'm not looking at the screen anymore, I'm lining.

00:32:26.666 --> 00:32:30.925
I'm lining up, you know, I'm looking where I need to hit the ball and then I'm looking down here.

00:32:30.925 --> 00:32:33.403
I've stopped looking at the screen because it was messing them up.

00:32:33.403 --> 00:32:35.258
Some.

00:32:35.258 --> 00:32:36.460
There's some good.

00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:36.721
The.

00:32:36.721 --> 00:32:37.701
The hot mic was good.

00:32:37.701 --> 00:32:44.380
Uh, you know, adam chimed in on our group chat that like live was going shit.

00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:50.113
We could have done so much better, you know, with with our production.

00:32:50.113 --> 00:32:51.476
So we'll see what.

00:32:51.476 --> 00:32:54.502
We'll see what happens with with live golf I don't think any.

00:32:55.045 --> 00:32:57.117
The players and live are going damn it.

00:32:57.157 --> 00:33:09.498
I wish I was there, considering the money that they have, but you never know, some of them might have well, the thing where it can come down to is if pg and live merge, there can be two different conferences.

00:33:09.498 --> 00:33:11.321
You know what I mean.

00:33:11.321 --> 00:33:13.445
Like so, and then it's.

00:33:14.627 --> 00:33:20.587
It's the then we'll have a tuesday night, wednesday night, tgl live on netflix and prime video.

00:33:22.338 --> 00:33:30.570
That's my thing I think on paramount plus by peacock subscription only yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of room to grow and I think they're going to work out the kinks.

00:33:30.570 --> 00:33:31.454
I think it was great.

00:33:31.454 --> 00:33:47.243
I think it was great for showing um, I really do and um, I think they'll work out the kinks and there is a lot of room to grow because, like, like Maddie said, is, you know, in Asia most of those people only play simulator golf.

00:33:47.243 --> 00:33:49.179
They don't, they don't get out like we do.

00:33:49.179 --> 00:33:56.386
You know, they don't touch grass, but we unfortunately, fortunately, we get to play golf on real grass.

00:33:56.386 --> 00:34:00.183
Those don't in highly populated areas.

00:34:00.183 --> 00:34:01.247
So that's what they know.

00:34:04.375 --> 00:34:04.778
Well, man.

00:34:04.898 --> 00:34:04.999
I.

00:34:05.220 --> 00:34:05.240
I.

00:34:05.454 --> 00:34:10.117
I had a feeling we'd go on for a little bit about that, but uh, I didn't know it was going to go that long.

00:34:10.117 --> 00:34:11.945
I like it though it's.

00:34:11.945 --> 00:34:14.681
It's entertaining, it's good talk, it's good talk.

00:34:14.681 --> 00:34:20.344
Um, so let's, uh, let's, transition to real golf.

00:34:20.344 --> 00:34:22.735
Uh, we'll talk a little bit about the century.

00:34:22.735 --> 00:34:24.840
How much did you guys watch?

00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:25.842
Did you watch it at all?

00:34:25.842 --> 00:34:31.025
Was it on your television at all, joe, were you able to get the kids away from your tv for a little bit and watch it?

00:34:31.795 --> 00:34:36.121
I watched a little bit but no, yeah, they're, they're absolutely insane.

00:34:36.121 --> 00:34:41.126
So the kids demanded spongebob or whatever was on a cartoon.

00:34:41.146 --> 00:34:57.420
Um, miss rachel, yeah no, no we're past miss rachel phase, so oh, okay, yeah we're past that one I've played capalula uh, I played it 10 years ago, 10, 11 years ago, um, maybe 10 years ago.

00:34:57.420 --> 00:35:04.431
Uh, it is not an easy golf course and those guys make it look incredibly easy.

00:35:04.431 --> 00:35:15.784
When you don't have wind and you've got a soft course, uh, with big fairways and the biggest greens on tour, you're gonna see some low scores.

00:35:15.784 --> 00:35:20.001
Uh, you know, it's been 33, 34 and 35 respectively the last three years.

00:35:20.001 --> 00:35:22.938
Don't see that changing anytime soon.

00:35:22.938 --> 00:35:25.686
I don't think there's anything they can do to that court.

00:35:25.686 --> 00:35:26.956
You can't lengthen anymore.

00:35:26.956 --> 00:35:28.519
It's a par 73, for god's sakes.

00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:46.090
Uh, it's, it's a big property, it's a big golf course and you, you know it's a resort course and you get professional golfers out there that can bomb it and attack flags and on a soft course with no wind, you're going to see that.

00:35:46.090 --> 00:35:49.340
So it doesn't bother me that they're shooting 35 under.

00:35:49.340 --> 00:35:55.876
Uh, it, I'm sure it bothers the guys that shot 29 and 30 under and and didn't win.

00:35:56.237 --> 00:36:04.829
But, uh, you know, uh, decky Alden bald it man he was he was playing some damn good golf.

00:36:04.829 --> 00:36:09.063
Colin was playing some good golf too, harry, you know our friend harry hall.

00:36:09.063 --> 00:36:10.827
Hey, he played fantastic.

00:36:10.827 --> 00:36:15.563
He had so many small missed putts that he could have easily been top three.

00:36:15.563 --> 00:36:17.588
Top four oh look who.

00:36:17.588 --> 00:36:19.759
We got jeremy's with us finally.

00:36:19.759 --> 00:36:21.483
No, not yet.

00:36:21.483 --> 00:36:22.465
Okay.

00:36:22.465 --> 00:36:23.414
Well, maybe he'll be here in a minute.

00:36:23.414 --> 00:36:28.143
Um, what, dan?

00:36:28.143 --> 00:36:29.925
What do you think if you watched?

00:36:29.925 --> 00:36:30.668
How much do you watch?

00:36:31.108 --> 00:36:35.518
I watched like an hour of it, um, I uh.

00:36:35.518 --> 00:36:47.251
I didn't watch a whole lot, obviously, obviously, but really all I saw was Morikawa and Matsuyama pretty much playing.

00:36:47.251 --> 00:36:54.940
But you know, like you said, those courses are, fairways are wide, the greens are huge, those guys are good, the winds weren't crazy.

00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:58.440
So you know, it is what it is.

00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:59.846
They're going to go low.

00:36:59.846 --> 00:37:04.605
You got the best of the world doing what they do best, so I'm not surprised by it.

00:37:04.605 --> 00:37:05.528
I don't mind seeing it.

00:37:05.528 --> 00:37:12.375
I'd rather see people shoot 35 under than shoot, like you know, like set, like six, seven under for a tournament yeah, it makes sense.

00:37:12.434 --> 00:37:15.257
I mean, you look at what everybody else was, you know.

00:37:15.257 --> 00:37:24.224
It's not like one person shot 35 under and everybody else was at uh 20 under, you know it wasn't that massive of a gap.

00:37:25.306 --> 00:37:27.208
Who was the guy in the pack Dune's at that was Jeremy.

00:37:27.208 --> 00:37:29.789
He'll be back as soon as he figures out his technical difficulties.

00:37:29.789 --> 00:37:31.811
Miles, thanks for hanging out.

00:37:31.811 --> 00:37:34.119
Um, thanks for chatting TGL with us.

00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:34.981
We really appreciate it.

00:37:34.981 --> 00:37:36.726
Um, let's do it.

00:37:36.726 --> 00:37:39.425
Let's let Jeremy get his uh shit figured out.

00:37:39.425 --> 00:37:44.302
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00:38:32.311 --> 00:38:41.402
All right, so let's go over this golf week state rankings for public access courses.

00:38:41.402 --> 00:38:47.916
Uh, basically, courses that you can play that you don't have to be a member at or get an invite to.

00:38:47.916 --> 00:38:53.474
Uh, no surprise, the first one on the list is shadow creek, uh.

00:38:53.474 --> 00:38:55.237
Then number two is cascada.

00:38:55.237 --> 00:38:58.402
Number three is wolf creek, uh.

00:38:58.402 --> 00:39:01.391
Number four is edgewood, so we'll cross that one off, because that's reno.

00:39:01.391 --> 00:39:02.072
Uh.

00:39:02.072 --> 00:39:03.594
Five is win six.

00:39:03.594 --> 00:39:05.539
This, this was a huge shocker to me.

00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:07.903
All right now is now.

00:39:07.903 --> 00:39:08.411
Are you back?

00:39:08.690 --> 00:39:11.456
I think it's working all right, all right guys.

00:39:11.456 --> 00:39:12.840
No, no, welcome.

00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:13.681
Welcome to the show.

00:39:13.681 --> 00:39:16.373
Uh, we're talking about right now.

00:39:16.373 --> 00:39:18.539
You missed all the tgl talk, sorry you'll have to.

00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:24.260
I didn't even watch it, so that's fine, yeah oh perfect, I'll watch a person and listen to what you guys said uh.

00:39:24.362 --> 00:39:30.489
so golf week uh magazine came out with their uh state rankings for courses that you can play in the public.

00:39:30.489 --> 00:39:40.659
Uh, for nevada they had shadow cascada, wolf creek, edgewood, win, and then at number six they had conestoga, which was a huge surprise.

00:39:40.659 --> 00:39:43.898
Incline Village is seven, so we'll cross that off.

00:39:43.898 --> 00:39:48.755
Paiute Wolf at eight, kairi Springs at nine, paiute Sun at 10.

00:39:48.755 --> 00:39:50.474
Rio Seco 11.

00:39:50.474 --> 00:39:52.056
Paiute Snow at 12.

00:39:52.056 --> 00:39:54.396
Tbc Vegas at 13.

00:39:54.396 --> 00:40:03.739
Oasis which I'm pretty sure Oasis is private now, because that's what the guy was saying when I was in there and 15 is Reflection Bay.

00:40:03.739 --> 00:40:12.918
So, in sharp comparison to where our list finished, shadow Creek was two, so that's not terrible.

00:40:12.918 --> 00:40:16.177
Cascada was six, not bad.

00:40:16.177 --> 00:40:20.516
Wolf Creek, I don't even think, made our top 20.

00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:31.681
um, yeah, it's down I think out of spite, it didn't yeah, uh, win was not on there because joe's the only one who's played it.

00:40:31.681 --> 00:40:35.913
Uh, conestoga, let's see where was conestoga.

00:40:35.913 --> 00:40:39.699
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do it's not in.

00:40:39.699 --> 00:40:41.742
No, no, there it is uh 17.

00:40:41.742 --> 00:40:50.019
Uh, piute wolf is five, they have it at eight.

00:40:50.019 --> 00:40:52.824
Coyote springs we have at seven, they have at nine.

00:40:52.824 --> 00:40:58.559
Uh, then the other, piute sun uh, we have it at four, they, they have it at ten.

00:40:59.262 --> 00:41:00.003
Who cares.

00:41:01.409 --> 00:41:04.516
Golf Digest does not play golf in Vegas like we do.

00:41:06.597 --> 00:41:10.373
They have a point system, they have people that play it.

00:41:10.373 --> 00:41:11.338
I understand.

00:41:11.338 --> 00:41:14.655
That's why I want to tell everybody the numbers so we can trash their list.

00:41:15.351 --> 00:41:16.032
It's more fun.

00:41:16.032 --> 00:41:18.119
I'm just getting a little upset here.

00:41:21.538 --> 00:41:24.335
We had Oasis way down at 36.

00:41:24.335 --> 00:41:31.778
And Reflection Bay we have at 30.

00:41:34.295 --> 00:41:36.153
And I think this is the problem with all of.

00:41:36.516 --> 00:41:37.702
Who are you going to trust?

00:41:38.385 --> 00:41:42.061
I'm just saying the problem with all of golf rankings.

00:41:42.061 --> 00:41:44.878
This is the problem with all of golf rankings.

00:41:44.878 --> 00:41:46.936
They come by, they play it once.

00:41:46.936 --> 00:41:49.875
They tell you what they think and you trust them.

00:41:49.875 --> 00:41:56.943
We are here all the time playing golf in our city.

00:41:56.943 --> 00:42:03.313
You can trust us and we will tell you where the best conditions are currently or where.

00:42:03.313 --> 00:42:08.713
But golf digest is not going to be like oh, this is number one, but don't go there in november.

00:42:08.713 --> 00:42:10.621
Don't go there in february.

00:42:11.103 --> 00:42:15.695
They're not going to tell you when to go play there, but we will say skip this one.

00:42:15.695 --> 00:42:20.282
Yes, it's a great golf course, but if you want good conditions, go to this place.

00:42:20.282 --> 00:42:28.650
And and I think that's that's one of the big problems with rankings, because things change golf, golf courses.

00:42:28.650 --> 00:42:32.780
Golf courses are a living creature, you know it.

00:42:33.041 --> 00:42:37.994
It doesn't stay the same all the time I was surprised bally high didn't make the list.

00:42:37.994 --> 00:42:38.936
I was shocked.

00:42:40.079 --> 00:43:02.336
Good, if it did, you could just throw that fucking whole list out, because it's not worth it golfer that works at Valley High who recently posted her favorite courses.

00:43:02.396 --> 00:43:13.532
She played last year and Valley High was number one on her list and it was just like look, we know you work there, we know they pay you to promote them.

00:43:13.532 --> 00:43:17.711
Don't tell people that that's the best course that you've played.

00:43:17.711 --> 00:43:21.385
Just stop, just stop well, I think.

00:43:21.485 --> 00:43:29.994
I think it depends on what you want, though, you know, and it's like every time somebody asks me for recommendations, I'm like what are you looking for?

00:43:29.994 --> 00:43:32.217
You know, are you?

00:43:32.217 --> 00:43:32.878
Are you?

00:43:32.878 --> 00:43:34.021
Are you a nerd?

00:43:34.021 --> 00:43:36.331
Are you wanting to have a good time?

00:43:36.331 --> 00:43:53.226
Because I think if you wanted to get drunk and have a good time and just get shit face valley high is great for you I'm looking for a tahitian themed golf course yeah, but if you're, if you're a nerd with a close jack-in-the-box yeah, it's very close.

00:43:53.346 --> 00:43:58.824
Yes, um, but if you're a nerd like I'm not, if you're if you're a golf nerd, I'm not sending you to ballyhai.

00:43:58.824 --> 00:44:00.028
If you're a golf nerd, I'm not sending you to Valley.

00:44:00.050 --> 00:44:00.130
High.

00:44:01.914 --> 00:44:05.637
I think that's the kind of thing that we can create.

00:44:07.371 --> 00:44:10.715
If Golf Digest knew about the par mates at Valley High, it would be a solid number two.

00:44:10.715 --> 00:44:18.614
Here's a from left field question who do you guys think is going to win WrestleMania?

00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:21.181
Shawn Michaels.

00:44:22.250 --> 00:44:25.275
Yeah, stone Cold, stone Cold's going to do it.

00:44:25.275 --> 00:44:25.677
Ahmed.

00:44:25.737 --> 00:44:26.219
Johnson.

00:44:27.931 --> 00:44:32.193
Austin 316 says I just whooped your ass, Pearl.

00:44:32.273 --> 00:44:34.615
River Plunge the Junkyard Dog.

00:44:37.472 --> 00:44:38.175
Axel Jim Duggan.

00:44:38.831 --> 00:44:50.043
Oh good, lord, Old days of wrestling I wish I still had it.

00:44:50.170 --> 00:44:52.257
I had a foam like 2x4.

00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.295
The lumber that I got at Thomas and Mac.

00:44:55.295 --> 00:44:58.217
Dan could probably find one.

00:44:58.389 --> 00:44:59.817
There's probably one down in the basement.

00:45:05.329 --> 00:45:06.596
Yeah, I'll go check the bat caves and see what they got.

00:45:06.596 --> 00:45:06.918
I had one man.

00:45:06.918 --> 00:45:07.802
I bet you that shit's worth a lot of money.

00:45:07.822 --> 00:45:16.179
I'll just bring you up for real this is hacksaw lumber written on the side of it uh okay, so, uh, word of caution.

00:45:16.179 --> 00:45:34.014
So what when I, when I see what they did and I I start looking at the other places around you know other cities, other or other states and I look at the rankings and so I wonder I'm like, how legit are those you?

00:45:34.054 --> 00:45:34.215
know.

00:45:34.215 --> 00:45:36.516
Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.

00:45:36.538 --> 00:45:42.925
Yeah, I mean Purcell is great, but Joe, you have one in Alabama you like way more than Purcell.

00:45:43.485 --> 00:45:47.880
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that was my whole point to that.

00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.693
I didn't get to it, but it's.

00:45:49.693 --> 00:45:54.739
You know, they get to go play these courses for free.

00:45:54.739 --> 00:46:00.076
Obviously right to judge them and rate them, and I think it's.

00:46:00.076 --> 00:46:03.097
It depends on what you're looking for.

00:46:03.097 --> 00:46:04.320
You know.

00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:10.313
It really does Like if you and it depends on the day, what do you, are you?

00:46:10.333 --> 00:46:11.577
going to have a good time.

00:46:12.811 --> 00:46:17.572
Are you looking for the best conditions or are you looking for the hardest golf course?

00:46:17.572 --> 00:46:19.298
Are you looking for the easiest golf course?

00:46:19.298 --> 00:46:20.956
There's so many factors.

00:46:20.956 --> 00:46:22.362
That's the thing you know.

00:46:22.847 --> 00:46:24.476
Yeah, and you got to remember all these lists.

00:46:24.476 --> 00:46:25.755
It's all subjective.

00:46:25.755 --> 00:46:27.898
These are basically people's opinions.

00:46:27.898 --> 00:46:37.476
There's nothing that says yes, that is number one, number two, number three, these are just sports writers who play these courses, and this is in their opinion.

00:46:37.476 --> 00:46:43.317
National Golf Links is number two, you know, in their opinion, national golf links is number two, you know, in my opinion, it could be six, you know.

00:46:43.317 --> 00:46:45.503
So that's basically what everybody's just got to, you know.

00:46:45.503 --> 00:46:48.474
Remember that this it's all subjective, it's all opinionated.

00:46:48.614 --> 00:46:56.057
you like what you like and enjoy it yeah, and they they might not played one that's right down the street.

00:46:56.057 --> 00:47:00.590
That's better, you know, or that they would have enjoyed more on a on an other day.

00:47:00.590 --> 00:47:04.197
But, um, do your own research.

00:47:04.197 --> 00:47:10.038
I mean, that's really what it comes down to do your own research I mean it's definitely a good.

00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.670
It's a good like guideline for sure, because let's, let's break down.

00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:17.298
Yeah, let's be real, those courses on there those courses are are legit.

00:47:17.318 --> 00:47:20.014
They're good, but and necessarily in that order.

00:47:20.014 --> 00:47:20.155
It.

00:47:20.155 --> 00:47:21.420
It's never going to be like it.

00:47:21.420 --> 00:47:24.275
There's no way that.

00:47:25.030 --> 00:47:26.757
I love Conestoga, don't get me wrong.

00:47:26.757 --> 00:47:32.155
I absolutely love that golf course, but there's no way it's ahead of all three of the Paiute courses.

00:47:32.155 --> 00:47:37.838
Just not even close, not even close.

00:47:37.838 --> 00:47:46.592
Not even close, all right, so that wraps up that.

00:47:46.592 --> 00:47:46.992
Uh, let's go into.

00:47:46.992 --> 00:47:51.001
Uh, you guys, uh, as in dan and joe, and hey, jeremy, happy new year.

00:47:51.382 --> 00:47:58.800
You haven't been on the same to you guys yeah, happy new year hey, thanks you know, you know, today's the last day you can say Happy New Year right.

00:47:59.721 --> 00:47:59.880
No.

00:48:00.802 --> 00:48:02.125
January 7th cut off.

00:48:02.125 --> 00:48:06.635
One week into the new year, can't say it no more.

00:48:06.894 --> 00:48:08.157
What if you haven't seen somebody?

00:48:08.878 --> 00:48:09.920
Doesn't matter, it's been a week.

00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:10.820
You should text them.

00:48:10.820 --> 00:48:11.922
Just say.

00:48:11.943 --> 00:48:12.483
Happy Monday.

00:48:12.483 --> 00:48:18.516
No, it's Happy Chinese New Year coming up Well there you go.

00:48:20.597 --> 00:48:21.302
Cisco, you're the dragon.

00:48:21.322 --> 00:48:25.938
I'm texting you happy new year tomorrow, just just because okay if you don't understand.

00:48:25.978 --> 00:48:35.244
There's a there's a larry david skit where he says like you get a week into the new year to say happy new year, yeah uh, it's awesome.

00:48:35.264 --> 00:48:39.278
they changed when seinfeld's on, so I get to go to bed with Seinfeld on every night now.

00:48:39.278 --> 00:48:40.302
It's amazing, love it.

00:48:40.661 --> 00:48:42.143
Yeah, shout out TV land.

00:48:42.387 --> 00:48:42.548
Yeah.

00:48:42.809 --> 00:48:44.916
Just blocks of Seinfeld.

00:48:44.916 --> 00:48:45.396
I love it.

00:48:47.041 --> 00:48:52.793
So you guys, as in Dan and Joe, are headed to the East coast to go freeze your nuts, I mean to go play some golf.

00:48:52.793 --> 00:49:03.909
Yeah, give everybody a rundown of where you're going, where you're going, where you're playing, and what we can expect to hear from you come next week when you return?

00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:08.012
Well, we are flying into a frigid.

00:49:08.012 --> 00:49:14.516
Actually, our first stop is going to be in Tennessee, which would also be very frozen there.

00:49:14.516 --> 00:49:19.858
We are going to be flying into Myrtle Beach Thursday at around 3.30.

00:49:19.858 --> 00:49:24.159
The weather forecast is awfully chilly.

00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:33.199
We're looking at probably around 40, 42, something like that for highs, sub 30, lows Very chilly, chilly.

00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:37.181
Yeah, it's definitely going to be frost delay weather.

00:49:37.181 --> 00:49:39.420
So I'm not trying to get too excited, but I kind of feel like we're going to have frost delay weather.

00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:43.157
I'm not trying to get too excited, but I kind of feel like we're going to have some frost delays.

00:49:43.157 --> 00:49:46.916
We're committed and we're going to golf when we can.

00:49:46.916 --> 00:49:48.965
We're going to have a great time.

00:49:48.965 --> 00:49:50.293
We've got some good courses lined up.

00:49:50.293 --> 00:50:00.175
We're playing True Blue, caledonia, tpc, myrtle Beach, prestwick and Muni in.

00:50:00.195 --> 00:50:02.717
Charleston West, charleston Muni or something like that it's called.

00:50:03.550 --> 00:50:04.655
Yeah, just Charleston Muni.

00:50:04.655 --> 00:50:13.478
Charleston Muni, which I originally thought was a Seth Rainer design, but Joe actually sent a fried egg.

00:50:13.898 --> 00:50:14.420
I saw that.

00:50:15.472 --> 00:50:22.293
It's inspired but nonetheless, me driving by the course and just seeing pictures of it, I'm still stoked as fuck to play it.

00:50:23.175 --> 00:50:26.704
Yeah, yeah, it looks amazing yeah we're also going to get to see.

00:50:26.704 --> 00:50:35.894
Uh, we're going to get to see the legend tyler woods and, uh, blind squirrel is coming down from charlotte, north carolina, to play with us.

00:50:35.894 --> 00:50:37.516
Excited to see jameson.

00:50:37.516 --> 00:50:42.844
Well, so you guys are doing 36, 36 a day for three days or two days.

00:50:42.844 --> 00:50:46.199
It's probably going to be like more, like 30, 32.

00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:47.161
Yeah, 27.

00:50:47.161 --> 00:50:50.318
No, that's the high, joe, that's the high.

00:50:50.510 --> 00:50:51.775
Yeah, that's the high.

00:50:52.231 --> 00:50:54.594
Hopefully there's no frost One whole federal degree.

00:50:54.594 --> 00:50:59.382
Yeah, we're looking at lows below 29.

00:50:59.382 --> 00:51:04.878
So I think there's going to be some frost, but I'm packed up, I'm already packed.

00:51:04.878 --> 00:51:07.838
I got everything packed up.

00:51:07.838 --> 00:51:08.559
I'm ready to go.

00:51:10.152 --> 00:51:11.835
Is this the first trip with the new travel bag?

00:51:11.835 --> 00:51:13.579
No, no.

00:51:13.579 --> 00:51:14.842
Did you take that to band?

00:51:15.990 --> 00:51:17.115
Oh no, he didn't take us to New York.

00:51:17.115 --> 00:51:17.998
Oh yeah, you did Did you.

00:51:18.170 --> 00:51:19.411
You did take him to.

00:51:19.532 --> 00:51:19.813
New York?

00:51:19.813 --> 00:51:20.974
Okay, I couldn't remember.

00:51:20.974 --> 00:51:23.498
He's got Bethpage dirt on that bag.

00:51:24.099 --> 00:51:24.280
Yeah.

00:51:24.340 --> 00:51:27.045
I'm going to spread it around for good luck.

00:51:27.045 --> 00:51:29.574
You know what I mean.

00:51:29.936 --> 00:51:40.420
Hey, you guys heard he went to Bethpage right A hard case with all the bumper stickers from where you've been on your golf travel box oh man, like shut up everybody that does that.

00:51:40.460 --> 00:51:56.884
But I just can't do that, you know, I just can't do a hard case just like I can't do anything, so I do not need a hard case can't do mallet covers, can't do staff bags, can't have my name on my bag, can't have a hard case.

00:51:56.884 --> 00:52:06.697
I'm a fucking stop, but it's okay, you know so bougie yeah so I think it's I think that's the opposite of bougie, honestly now you're.

00:52:06.697 --> 00:52:15.858
You're snobby bougie no, I'm, I'm content he's so bougie, so bougie okay.

00:52:15.898 --> 00:52:19.443
So, uh, golf we played, uh, so you got.

00:52:19.443 --> 00:52:32.400
Hey, honestly, I swear I hope the weather turns around and something happens and you get great weather, because nothing worse than flying across the country to have shit weather.

00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.036
Well, first we have to wait.

00:52:35.190 --> 00:52:39.619
We have to get on the airplane and have it take us to our destination.

00:52:39.619 --> 00:52:45.099
That's the main concern currently, because we're going no matter what.

00:52:45.099 --> 00:52:55.360
But yeah, the Winter Storm Cora, I believe her name is, might fuck us a little bit.

00:52:56.471 --> 00:52:57.737
We'll see you next Tuesday.

00:52:57.797 --> 00:53:00.735
Storm, we're your friend Cora, Let us go.

00:53:02.242 --> 00:53:02.583
All all right.

00:53:02.583 --> 00:53:04.331
So last couple things.

00:53:04.331 --> 00:53:06.134
Jeremy, you gonna play any golf in scottsdale?

00:53:07.918 --> 00:53:11.911
um, it's, it's for joy's birthday, so I might throw him in.

00:53:11.911 --> 00:53:16.041
I don't know if I'll get out, but I do want to go over to the true and, uh, new level place.

00:53:16.101 --> 00:53:22.695
So I'm gonna message dave and see go see doc and right around the corner from them is putting world oh, that's right.

00:53:22.896 --> 00:53:32.291
Yeah, so go go take the boys to putting world, you'll have a blast yes, and that that in and out that's right in front of putting world is the best in and out I've ever ate at.

00:53:32.331 --> 00:53:37.097
Really no doubt about it okay, I'll try it out then.

00:53:37.097 --> 00:53:41.483
I've actually never been to Scottsdale.

00:53:42.204 --> 00:53:42.505
Oh no.

00:53:43.346 --> 00:53:50.262
Yeah, when Dan and I went we didn't go to Scottsdale, but I heard there's some cool old town and a bunch of cool stuff to see.

00:53:50.262 --> 00:53:51.655
Scottsdale is sick.

00:53:51.655 --> 00:53:56.701
It's very bougie is the word Affluent, affluent.

00:53:57.789 --> 00:53:59.297
There's a lot of money in Scottsdale.

00:54:02.329 --> 00:54:02.630
A lot of money.

00:54:02.650 --> 00:54:04.777
money, yeah, we'll see if I play golf, hey, you could take you could take.

00:54:04.996 --> 00:54:07.030
Uh, you guys, you guys could go to the putt shack.

00:54:07.030 --> 00:54:11.239
That's a good little mini golf like there's so many indoors.

00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:12.240
It's a good spot.

00:54:12.240 --> 00:54:12.963
It's.

00:54:13.023 --> 00:54:15.393
It's fun, it's really there's a pop stroke there.

00:54:15.393 --> 00:54:16.333
That's a different layout.

00:54:16.373 --> 00:54:20.059
Yeah, pop stroke here that's just take the place that's down national, he'd be all right.

00:54:20.059 --> 00:54:23.844
Come on, yeah, we could buy.

00:54:23.844 --> 00:54:31.550
Yeah, we play phd we do things different.

00:54:34.016 --> 00:54:35.518
Uh, all right, uh, let's see.

00:54:35.518 --> 00:54:37.893
So we played some golf out at revere, uh, joe, uh, dan, myself and cliff.

00:54:37.893 --> 00:54:39.378
Uh, a little windy to start, but it turned out okay, let's see.

00:54:39.378 --> 00:54:41.126
So we played some golf out at Revere, joe, dan myself and Cliff.

00:54:41.126 --> 00:54:45.059
It was a little windy to start, but it turned out okay.

00:54:45.059 --> 00:54:48.739
Course Concord pretty good in shape.

00:54:48.739 --> 00:54:50.253
Still, dan and I we played it.

00:54:50.253 --> 00:54:52.099
Was it a couple weeks ago or no?

00:54:52.099 --> 00:54:53.282
When did we play Concord?

00:54:53.851 --> 00:54:55.677
We played it like two months ago, I think.

00:54:56.291 --> 00:55:05.219
Okay, that's when it was Before the surgery, so yeah, uh still I'm still getting back into golf mode.

00:55:05.579 --> 00:55:07.945
Uh, I'm working on a couple things.

00:55:07.945 --> 00:55:12.641
Uh, mr tim flote that was in here earlier, um, I'm actually going to start working with him.

00:55:12.641 --> 00:55:15.992
Austin is just too busy for my high demanding needs.

00:55:15.992 --> 00:55:18.438
Uh, so, tim, uh who?

00:55:18.438 --> 00:55:23.266
He is posting blogs weekly on 1440.com.

00:55:23.266 --> 00:55:26.152
Uh, that's the new website, 1440golfcom.

00:55:26.152 --> 00:55:28.657
I'll transition into that after we talk about revere.

00:55:28.657 --> 00:55:32.293
Um, joe, you, you haven't been on the court in a while.

00:55:32.293 --> 00:55:34.951
I know you don't like playing the court, you much rather play legs and tim, what do you think?

00:55:34.951 --> 00:55:36.853
Uh?

00:55:36.934 --> 00:55:37.414
yeah, it was.

00:55:37.414 --> 00:55:38.097
It was fun.

00:55:38.097 --> 00:55:39.338
It was good to get out there.

00:55:39.338 --> 00:55:44.735
I got I posted that video of you hitting your t-shot on what was that number?

00:55:44.735 --> 00:55:46.840
Four, five, four.

00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:54.188
They were like hope you didn't pay for that to play that golf course oh, it's like nasty comments about a t-box.

00:55:54.208 --> 00:56:04.833
It's like nobody's ever seen a dormant dry t-box before like they only ever play lush green it was, it was dirt, it was dirt it was dirt uh

00:56:05.594 --> 00:56:19.396
for a solid fucking dirt might as well tee it off, yeah exactly and that that spot hardly gets sun in the winter, um, with the clouds and and the sun being so low, and it's hard and it's god forbid if it's cold.

00:56:19.396 --> 00:56:22.262
That ground is concrete yeah.

00:56:22.302 --> 00:56:26.021
A lot of people said I, I never saw those conditions when I played revere.

00:56:26.021 --> 00:56:30.353
Ever, um, I would never pay for that is what people were saying.

00:56:30.474 --> 00:56:36.143
Wow, yeah damn jesus, it wasn't every t-box, it was one.

00:56:36.143 --> 00:56:39.257
Yeah, so I had to jesus.

00:56:39.958 --> 00:56:41.081
I had some messages.

00:56:41.081 --> 00:56:44.110
I had to defend revere did you hear that tice?

00:56:44.351 --> 00:56:45.152
tice was on ig.

00:56:45.152 --> 00:56:47.938
I don't know if he's still on there, but yeah, I, I had.

00:56:48.099 --> 00:56:52.856
I did some defending, um you know, the rest of the course was good.

00:56:53.538 --> 00:56:58.679
Um, imagine getting the fifth, the fourth t box and going fuck this place with this dirt box.

00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.626
Yeah, why did I pay what?

00:57:01.268 --> 00:57:03.534
yeah, people said why did you pay for that?

00:57:03.534 --> 00:57:04.838
Did you pay for that?

00:57:04.838 --> 00:57:06.244
How much did you pay for that?

00:57:07.025 --> 00:57:09.094
so uh, yeah, I'm gonna have to go in those comments.

00:57:09.094 --> 00:57:10.099
I didn't even get into that.

00:57:10.099 --> 00:57:13.875
You're gonna have to whip out the yeah, it was message.

00:57:13.894 --> 00:57:23.693
It was messages, but um jesus yeah I dude, we're in fucking December and January in Las Vegas.

00:57:23.693 --> 00:57:24.536
It's not.

00:57:24.536 --> 00:57:27.992
You know, it's cold, it's fucking cold.

00:57:27.992 --> 00:57:36.056
It's hard to grow anything in Vegas this time of year, so chill out, chill.

00:57:36.115 --> 00:57:36.639
Good Lord.

00:57:38.371 --> 00:57:38.632
Chill.

00:57:39.034 --> 00:57:39.376
Chill out.

00:57:39.396 --> 00:57:39.797
How were?

00:57:39.818 --> 00:57:42.086
the greens.

00:57:43.389 --> 00:57:46.456
Greens were good, were good, good I, they weren't as beat up as lexington.

00:57:46.536 --> 00:57:49.331
So lexington is definitely getting more play, in my opinion.

00:57:49.331 --> 00:58:21.108
Um, I think some of the greens there are a little bit more challenging to hit than, uh, some of the ones on lex, so that you know, like uh nine was like flawless 17 was, don't think a person hit that green except dan all day uh um so you know it is what it is, but I, you know, I thought it was in, I thought it was in really good shape for january in vegas here's the thing I'll say is like we got to play golf in January in Las Vegas.

00:58:21.429 --> 00:58:23.389
It most of the country.

00:58:23.389 --> 00:58:27.137
You're not going to be able to play golf in January anywhere else.

00:58:27.219 --> 00:58:35.722
So I mean I had, I had a, a base, a base layer on a polo and a hoodie and I had the hoodie off by the fourth, fifth hole.

00:58:35.722 --> 00:58:37.875
I mean it was, it was gorgeous out.

00:58:41.170 --> 00:58:42.773
It was cold in the morning but, yeah, it turned out to be a really good day.

00:58:42.793 --> 00:58:44.476
Yeah, it wasn't as cold as national was.

00:58:44.476 --> 00:58:49.333
That was cold that was pretty cold uh, all right.

00:58:49.333 --> 00:58:51.617
So last thing, get to um.

00:58:51.617 --> 00:58:55.431
I'll talk about this a little bit in case anybody is not aware.

00:58:56.293 --> 00:59:04.753
Um, I was in a connection, that's opening a gas station and you're going to be able to buy golf balls out the gas station.

00:59:04.893 --> 00:59:10.422
1440 golf, gas, gas, golf.

00:59:10.422 --> 00:59:11.945
Where did gas come from that?

00:59:12.751 --> 00:59:14.873
76 because it's orange.

00:59:14.873 --> 00:59:18.059
You just put up orange, oh well, that's just the Stanley cup.

00:59:18.099 --> 00:59:21.664
I just I was more referring to the, to the sticker on the Stanley cup.

00:59:21.664 --> 00:59:39.092
Uh, no, I I wanted If you Google, if you go to Google and type in the breakfast ball, yes, it comes up first, but then there's like 40 other things that are golf related and stories and stuff that have nothing to do with me, and I was just getting fed up with it.

00:59:39.092 --> 00:59:53.202
I went into this on a podcast episode a couple weeks ago, wasn't sure what to do with it, and so I came up with 1440, and 1440 is how many minutes there are in a day.

00:59:53.202 --> 01:00:15.034
There's so many, you know, with golf blowing up and so many people coming on to the social media side of things, it it's challenging to find a golf name that you can relate to, and so I one day I was sitting there just punching up different ideas and doing research on it and the thought of you know me thinking about golf all day long.

01:00:15.034 --> 01:00:18.001
I was like man, well, how many minutes are there in a day?

01:00:18.001 --> 01:00:21.623
So I researched that and that's that's where 1440 comes from.

01:00:21.623 --> 01:00:26.121
So I'm having a little fun with the play on the words 14, the number 40, blah, blah, blah.

01:00:26.121 --> 01:00:29.730
So I transferred over the breakfast ball website.

01:00:29.730 --> 01:00:31.717
It is now 1440 golf.

01:00:32.371 --> 01:00:36.438
I changed my Instagram handle that's gone from the breakfast ball to this.

01:00:36.438 --> 01:00:39.498
I have stopped posting on my so-called golf life.

01:00:39.498 --> 01:00:40.780
That is going away.

01:00:40.780 --> 01:00:50.641
So all my golf content other than Vegas golf network and the podcast is going to be on 1440 golf and, uh, I'm pretty excited about it.

01:00:50.710 --> 01:00:59.371
It's kind of rejuvenated me a little bit, um, to get back into doing some of the things that I've always enjoyed doing and sharing.

01:00:59.371 --> 01:01:01.393
Um, so that's've always enjoyed doing and sharing.

01:01:01.393 --> 01:01:02.795
So that's what that is.

01:01:02.795 --> 01:01:06.260
A lot of people have been sending me comments going what the hell is going on.

01:01:06.260 --> 01:01:15.590
So it's nothing crazy, just a rebranding, and you know the Breakfast Ball has been around since 2009.

01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:17.552
So it's had a good run.

01:01:17.552 --> 01:01:26.597
I try to mix it up a little bit with just posting my personal stuff on my soul called golf life Didn't really resonate with people the way I was hoping it would.

01:01:26.597 --> 01:01:30.255
So, okay, bye-bye, and you know I'll just put everything in one spot.

01:01:30.255 --> 01:01:38.465
So once one stop shop for me with golf content going forward and it was stressful.

01:01:38.465 --> 01:01:47.559
It's hard to let something go that you've had, you know, be a part of your life for so long um go ahead I will say when.

01:01:47.619 --> 01:01:55.318
When I, when I opened up instagram that day and I saw 1440 golf, I was like who the fuck is this?

01:01:55.318 --> 01:02:00.538
I've never followed this account in my life I've never followed the who's this.

01:02:00.538 --> 01:02:08.804
I have no I I have no idea who this is, but when we were playing revere, dan asked me um.

01:02:08.804 --> 01:02:12.755
He was like why do you think he did it?

01:02:12.755 --> 01:02:20.023
I was like, yeah, it's because there are so many imitators with the breakfast ball and you, you work.

01:02:20.063 --> 01:02:41.563
So hard, you work so hard to um copyright the breakfast ball and you know you can't protect it fully because of so many factors and um I knew that was why, because you know we had it for so long, so it was just it was new chapter, you know it was.

01:02:41.885 --> 01:02:44.271
It was uh, a little stressful.

01:02:44.271 --> 01:02:51.342
Um, I lost all my email and uh, that was freak panic mode.

01:02:51.342 --> 01:02:59.492
Um, I get, I get a lot of emails at the breakfast ball my email address and uh, I was like freaking out like, oh shit, what did I?

01:02:59.492 --> 01:03:00.998
Did I miss uh.

01:03:00.998 --> 01:03:09.036
So that was a stressful you know hour and a half where I was trying to get it all figured out and transferred over, but it's all, it's all working now.

01:03:09.036 --> 01:03:10.900
Um, but you would.

01:03:10.900 --> 01:03:18.918
You would be amazed at how many people send me stuff thinking I am somebody that I am not because of the breakfast ball.

01:03:19.318 --> 01:03:25.396
So it was it was time to let it go, and all those people can now search somewhere else.

01:03:25.597 --> 01:03:33.164
And leave me the hell alone research us copyright laws and that's all you gotta know.

01:03:33.786 --> 01:03:35.289
Dude, it's ridiculous and then I got the.

01:03:35.289 --> 01:03:47.858
I got the renewal for the trademark and I was like y'all are crazy if you think I 1440, you think I'm gonna pay you that much money and have zero protection.

01:03:47.858 --> 01:04:04.266
Zero protection and I mean it's kudos to uh trademark attorneys and people who have the money to fight for their intellectual property, because, dude, it ain't worth it.

01:04:04.266 --> 01:04:15.045
In my opinion, it is fucking ridiculous what you have to go through and the hoops you have to jump through and the amount of money you have to pay just to say they can't do that legally.

01:04:15.989 --> 01:04:19.119
Well, they added an S, so they can't yeah.

01:04:23.929 --> 01:04:24.992
It's ridiculous, yeah, ridiculous ridiculous.

01:04:24.992 --> 01:04:25.233
We get it.

01:04:25.233 --> 01:04:25.634
That's all it takes.

01:04:25.634 --> 01:04:30.813
Drop the, the, and then you're good to go add an s, you're good to go put a hyphen, good to go, it's, it's stupid.

01:04:30.813 --> 01:04:32.577
Anyways, all right, rant over.

01:04:32.577 --> 01:04:41.025
So everybody, please, if you have not, or you were and you're no longer 1440 golf, it's 14, spelled out.

01:04:41.025 --> 01:04:43.010
It's on my screen, on the screen, you can see it right there.

01:04:43.010 --> 01:04:49.751
That's the, uh, the website, the instagram, uh, facebook and uh, what's it called an x.

01:04:50.152 --> 01:04:59.472
yeah, so um, and then I'll slowly convert to the youtube channel, because I do plan on posting some more stuff over there.

01:04:59.472 --> 01:05:01.416
Last order of business.

01:05:01.416 --> 01:05:03.539
I said that before, but sorry.

01:05:03.539 --> 01:05:07.724
The VGN season is underway.

01:05:07.724 --> 01:05:11.079
Our first event is February 22nd.

01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:11.949
That's going to be here before you know it.

01:05:11.949 --> 01:05:20.362
So if you are thinking about joining the Vegas Golf Network and you haven't decided if you're going to do it or not, hit me up.

01:05:20.362 --> 01:05:21.192
Find out what's.

01:05:21.192 --> 01:05:22.498
Do you have any questions?

01:05:22.498 --> 01:05:26.541
Let me know how we can convert you over and get you out playing with us.

01:05:26.541 --> 01:05:30.121
We've got some new members that have already signed up for this upcoming season.

01:05:30.121 --> 01:05:40.297
Looking forward to seeing all the familiar faces out at Siena on February 22nd, and I'm going to be out at the Las Vegas Golf Superstore doing a Callaway event this Saturday.

01:05:40.297 --> 01:05:45.413
So if you're in the area and you have some questions about that, come talk to me about that.

01:05:45.413 --> 01:05:51.797
I'll be there and you know, while you're there, come check out the new elite line from Callaway, because it's really good.

01:05:51.797 --> 01:05:53.603
Just ask.

01:05:53.809 --> 01:05:56.791
Fairway was like amazing, Amazing man.

01:05:57.172 --> 01:05:57.572
I can't.

01:05:57.572 --> 01:05:59.599
I can't wait to see that titanium.

01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:05.594
Oh, my goodness, I am, because I'm still playing my tailor-made original sim.

01:06:05.594 --> 01:06:06.476
Titanium.

01:06:06.476 --> 01:06:10.202
Joe is too, and uh, that club is so good.

01:06:10.202 --> 01:06:11.224
I, I can't.

01:06:11.224 --> 01:06:20.864
And the fact that they're doing into three and a five and a high launch three how does the company man feel about the new TaylorMade driver?

01:06:21.791 --> 01:06:22.715
Looks pretty good to me.

01:06:23.311 --> 01:06:24.135
It looks really good.

01:06:24.135 --> 01:06:30.317
I mean, you know me, I play TaylorMade, I play the Sim and the Stealth.

01:06:30.317 --> 01:06:33.076
They make great clubs.

01:06:33.076 --> 01:06:35.338
It's all personal preference.

01:06:35.338 --> 01:06:40.621
I will tell you, I do not like the gloss black on the triple diamond.

01:06:40.621 --> 01:06:43.478
I think they made a huge mistake with that.

01:06:43.478 --> 01:06:47.820
The matte carbon on the other ones is stunning.

01:06:47.820 --> 01:06:50.599
It's gorgeous and it looks so good.

01:06:50.599 --> 01:07:07.385
I'm willing to bet you're going to see a lot of the tour guys that are playing triple diamonds that are going to have that, uh, that matte top just because it's it looks so much better, so much better but we'll see, hey.

01:07:07.806 --> 01:07:18.634
Hey, I'd like to take a quick minute because I forgot to do this last week, but I want to give a huge shout out to uh beyond golf tours at beyond golf tours on instagram.

01:07:18.634 --> 01:07:24.083
Uh, if you're looking to book a golf trip, go follow them.

01:07:24.083 --> 01:07:27.440
It's at Beyond Golf Tours on Instagram.

01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.280
They are putting together incredible packages.

01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:38.922
We're trying to go to Sand Valley in 2026 in the summer and they may be able to help us out or you out.

01:07:38.922 --> 01:07:43.081
If you're trying to put together a golf trip, go check out Beyond Golf Tours.

01:07:43.081 --> 01:07:55.838
The homie Mike over at Beautiful Golf Courses plugged us in with him and his team and, yeah, they know what they're doing, so go check them out at Beyond Golf Tours.

01:07:56.349 --> 01:08:10.653
Yeah, when we go to Sand Valley, we're definitely going to be using them and they they have some canada trips as well, so they have some new zealand packages too, so wow, yeah they've got some major international stuff.

01:08:10.753 --> 01:08:12.659
So yeah, probably beyond golf tour.

01:08:12.659 --> 01:08:14.623
Shrimp on the ball book yourself.

01:08:14.809 --> 01:08:33.435
Go book yourself a legendary trip yeah, they, you know, and it's, they're creating memories and you know I'm all about that shit yeah great, great moments, great moments if if anybody is wondering what happened to our beautiful golf courses.

01:08:33.496 --> 01:08:41.000
Chasing daylight podcast, fantasy golf league to win money to use towards golf trips and the beautiful golf course auction.

01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.331
Yeah, we had four.

01:08:42.331 --> 01:08:46.158
We had five people sign up and, uh, four of them are on this screen.

01:08:46.878 --> 01:08:52.055
So or six sorry, we had six and four on the screen right now.

01:08:52.055 --> 01:08:58.114
So, uh yeah, gave those other guys their money back and said maybe we'll try again next year.

01:08:58.114 --> 01:08:59.198
So we'll.

01:08:59.198 --> 01:09:00.020
We'll see what happens.

01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:00.971
We got to come up with something.

01:09:00.971 --> 01:09:09.319
I thought that was a great idea, but apparently nobody gives a shit about fantasy golf or an epic golf trip for 50 bucks so hey, are you are?

01:09:09.380 --> 01:09:10.301
is mike coming this?

01:09:10.301 --> 01:09:11.650
Are you playing with him this week?

01:09:11.730 --> 01:09:15.622
no, no, he he uh, um, I told him he goes.

01:09:15.622 --> 01:09:23.820
Yeah, they, they really didn't want to do anything for me this week and I said well, you know, it is just the largest trade show in the history of planet earth.

01:09:23.820 --> 01:09:29.713
Going on in town right now may have a little bit to do with it, he's like yeah, you're right, so he's gonna.

01:09:29.713 --> 01:09:32.161
He's gonna look at his schedule and see a better time to come out.

01:09:32.161 --> 01:09:35.213
So, yeah, because I was gonna leave and he wants all of us to get out.

01:09:35.234 --> 01:09:51.520
Yeah, I was gonna leave you a beanie to give him, because I'm supposed to ship them one oh, I was excited and playing back-to-back days in the week, so anything else, yeah, I got my.

01:09:51.661 --> 01:09:55.405
I got my new la golf shafts today for the, the ai 200s.

01:09:55.405 --> 01:09:57.895
Excited about that.

01:09:57.895 --> 01:10:01.324
Oh, another tech news did you get?

01:10:01.425 --> 01:10:02.788
all which irons did you get in?

01:10:02.809 --> 01:10:10.855
the new ones did you get the whole set, or, uh, just five, uh uh, six, seven, eight, nine pitching wedge okay yeah.

01:10:10.876 --> 01:10:15.029
So I pulled the five iron for the five hybrid and I have no business hitting a four iron.

01:10:15.029 --> 01:10:18.877
So I haven't had a four iron in years, wow.

01:10:18.877 --> 01:10:19.578
So.

01:10:19.578 --> 01:10:22.844
So yeah, I'm, uh, I'm excited about those.

01:10:22.844 --> 01:10:31.636
I'm going to build those tomorrow morning and, uh, just going on the the new, the new stuff is coming out.

01:10:31.636 --> 01:10:33.917
Uh, it'll be out in store.

01:10:33.917 --> 01:10:35.034
You can, you can pre-order.

01:10:35.034 --> 01:10:48.016
Now I think the 17th is the day that they're shipping Um, and telling you buy those fairway woods while you can, because as soon as everybody finds out how good they are, they will not be available.

01:10:48.016 --> 01:10:52.251
That's all I got, yeah.

01:10:52.351 --> 01:10:55.261
I need a new one, so I have to grab one.

01:10:55.850 --> 01:10:56.795
Going to have to grab one.

01:10:57.851 --> 01:10:59.899
Dan, how's all your new clubs?

01:10:59.899 --> 01:11:01.997
How'd they fruit run at revere?

01:11:03.793 --> 01:11:06.198
actually played pretty well I had it to.

01:11:06.418 --> 01:11:15.398
I had it to 500 at one point um as soon as he said something, and then he fucking as I mentioned that I was back to even by the, by the time the round was over.

01:11:17.694 --> 01:11:18.836
But but do you?

01:11:18.855 --> 01:11:19.537
know, what he did.

01:11:19.537 --> 01:11:20.639
Do you know what he did?

01:11:20.639 --> 01:11:24.291
Jeremy played the wilson ball that's right.

01:11:24.331 --> 01:11:35.716
Yeah, the wilson ball, the whole round it's good ball, man like it yeah, it's, yeah, I do like it he had a massive 240 yard drive on number two and I I did.

01:11:35.877 --> 01:11:42.363
I thought for sure, the next hole, you were going to have a Titleist on the tee.

01:11:42.404 --> 01:11:43.045
Does it?

01:11:43.064 --> 01:11:43.845
feel super spinny.

01:11:45.369 --> 01:11:46.481
You were just smashed?

01:11:46.481 --> 01:11:47.229
No, not at all.

01:11:47.229 --> 01:11:48.414
It doesn't feel super spinny at all.

01:11:48.414 --> 01:11:54.783
It was just really that hole was just into the wind and it was gusting.

01:11:54.783 --> 01:11:59.662
But you know, I also popped it like 360 later that day A couple times.

01:12:01.489 --> 01:12:04.576
Yeah, what did you have in on 11, didn't you have like I had?

01:12:04.595 --> 01:12:05.337
118.

01:12:05.337 --> 01:12:06.158
And what?

01:12:06.158 --> 01:12:26.344
Yeah, yeah, 118, wow, wow, that was a bomb I think I had 97 in on that one no, I'm kidding he did that was no, that was third shot ah, good stuff.

01:12:26.623 --> 01:12:28.845
Uh, hey, everybody, thank you so much for tuning in.

01:12:28.845 --> 01:12:30.567
Uh, we really appreciate it.

01:12:30.567 --> 01:12:33.173
Um, yeah, that's all I got.

01:12:33.173 --> 01:12:34.275
Joe, you want to close it?

01:12:35.417 --> 01:12:40.345
yeah, thanks for tuning in to episode 307 of the Chase and Daylight podcast.

01:12:40.345 --> 01:12:42.515
Hope you have a good week.

01:12:42.515 --> 01:12:44.317
Hope you enjoyed TGL.

01:12:44.317 --> 01:12:51.238
We're almost out of the winter months, masters is around the corner and we got a lot of golf coming up.

01:12:51.238 --> 01:12:52.402
Thank you for tuning in.

01:12:52.402 --> 01:12:53.654
Thank you for supporting the show.

01:12:53.654 --> 01:12:57.079
Shout out beautiful golf courses.

01:12:57.079 --> 01:12:59.176
Shout out the golf stop.

01:12:59.176 --> 01:13:00.394
Shout out Boar's wars golf.

01:13:00.394 --> 01:13:03.091
Living the fucking life in what?

01:13:03.091 --> 01:13:07.539
70 degree weather out there, just building clubs and enjoying himself.

01:13:07.539 --> 01:13:09.304
And he's a pgk fan.

01:13:09.304 --> 01:13:12.311
So shout out to him until next week.

01:13:12.332 --> 01:13:18.515
We will catch you later shut up, shut up, ed Bye.

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