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What is up everybody?
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Hi Dan, maybe he's a bot.
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Dan is frozen.
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Let's try him again.
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I've never seen Dan wear a blue shirt before.
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I don't think Dan is frozen.
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Maybe Dan will join us.
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What is up everybody?
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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.
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We got a special episode this evening.
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It's number 300 for us.
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Unbelievable, I never that's crazy.
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Never thought in a million years that we would get this.
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I say that every time we hit a milestone, but it's still crazy.
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I love it.
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So we've got a special episode tonight that we're going to do.
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We're dancing all over the screen here.
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Sorry, it's our Vegas ranking episode.
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They're going to have a lot of Vegas talk.
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We always have a lot of Vegas talk.
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We're going to have a lot of Vegas talk.
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We always have a lot of Vegas talk.
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We're going to have even more tonight.
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So if you're one of our listeners, that is not a fan of the Vegas talk hang out and see what you think, keep listening.
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You may learn something.
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You may learn something you never know.
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But first off, I want to say happy belated Veterans Day to all those veterans out there.
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Thank you so much for your service.
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We love and support all you guys.
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Uh, we have an amazing country.
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We have an amazing military.
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Oh, let's see.
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Let's see if dan's got it this time.
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There he is, hey, buddy hey, what's up this thing's?
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hey, we're, we're also talking, uh, chasing daylight podcast veterans too.
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Thank you for everybody that's listened up until this point.
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It's been incredible yeah, we, we've picked up a lot of new listeners over the years and there's been some amazing people that have stuck around the whole entire time, so thank you to you for doing that.
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Wanted to, of course, thank the people that support us, the Golf Stop indoor track man facility here in West Henderson If you haven't been in there, go check them out.
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Roars Golf Roars is in the Bahamas right now on a little vacay.
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So much love to Roars and his support for the show and Las Vegas Golf Superstore, which you know.
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We'll run our Vegas Golf Superstore ad later on in the show.
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But yeah, and then Scott Russo from Underwritten Law.
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Thank you to that gentleman for allowing us to continue to use harmonic as our intro.
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So you guys have a nice long weekend, dan probably not I did not have monday off, so no no, I already got some.
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I had a nice long weekend of watching kids at the house rob get there, get there yeah, jo there.
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Yeah, joe's been on here for a little while hanging out with me and he's got his hands full.
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He's got his hands full.
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Definitely do Throw some good mojo his way if you can.
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So I got some golf played.
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We'll talk a little bit of the golf we played real quick.
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I was at a Boulder Creek with Woody on Thursday.
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Jeremy and Dan, you guys played there Sunday or Monday morning, right, I did.
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Jeremy had some issues.
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You're muted, Jeremy.
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You're muted, Chad.
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Yeah, that was a funny story.
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Actually, we booked uh angel park for sunday and boulder creek for monday.
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I pick up dan, we head to angel park.
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I'm not feeling so good.
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We get there, we we t off dan.
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Dan loses a ball in his t-shot and then I tell him that we need to leave because I'm going to be sick.
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Because I was just right, so we turn around go back in get a refund.
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I drive him home.
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Immediately after I left his neighborhood I turned the corner, got out of the truck and puked all over the rocks.
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What happened Wow?
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Too many zins, or what Did you have a zin?
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16 or something.
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No, it's my children, my Petri dish.
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Children brought the stomach bug home.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, and then, I just backed out of Boulder Creek.
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Luckily, trey, julian, dan filled in and Rich was in town, so he took a spot.
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Unfortunately I didn't get to play with him, but I'm glad he got out still.
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Dan, what did you think of the creek?
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How was it for you?
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Awesome, it was in great shape.
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It was in such good shape.
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Yeah, it was really nice.
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Greens are nice and quick rolling.
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True, Like I was saying to Trey out there, it's weird because you know the greens are really good because even when the uphill putts are still rolling out.
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So, yeah, it's weird because you know the greens are really good because even when the uphill putts are still rolling out, so it's yeah, it's in really good shape right now and if you haven't been to Boulder Creek, get there, yeah, and also shout out the amigos on the green they.
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they just launched their YouTube channel Julian and Trey and they were out of Boulder Creek and the little albatross on the first YouTube video is, uh, pretty special.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool they lit up that front.
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Nine lit it up.
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So if you haven't checked that video out, I'll put a link in the bottom so you guys can check that out.
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Um, watch it, watch it.
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Yeah, so woody and I played thursday.
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It was 45 degrees out and the wind was blowing, so it wasn't as nice as you had it yesterday, dan.
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Um, we got uh.
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Matt Boyd was supposed to join us I'm sure he's listening and uh, he did the.
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Uh.
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I said I was coming.
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Um, so, uh, he messaged me.
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He's like glad I didn't go.
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I'm like, oh wow yeah dirty.
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Oh, we had a blast.
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Yeah, dude like you've got to get over the weather.
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Dude like I'm like oh wow Dirty.
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Oh, we had a blast.
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Yeah, dude, you've got to get over the weather.
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Dude, if it's not raining or it's not windy, buckle up, dude, you're fine, just get there, get there had my hoodie on most of the day and then pulled it off around we made stirrups and started getting warm, but, oh man.
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So we had a four ball in front of us and they told us to go through.
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But there was a group in front of them and so we just took our time and chilled and I was doing a lot of studying the course, trying to remember some stuff for the weekend coming up, and then they, they went in the uh, the inside at the turn, and so we jumped ahead of them and the next group uh, on the par three, the first par three on the back said come on through.
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And so I mean we finished even waiting on that front nine.
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We finished in like 330 so speaking of this is is there like a temp where you won't go play golf, like?
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what does it?
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mean what's the cutoff when you can't like?
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when they won't let you.
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When they won't let you, yeah 32.
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Dude I played in.
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Utah in the in like 20 or in the teens, because they for some reason kept the course open in December and it was.
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I mean it was fun, but the balls were.
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It was just concrete on the greens, there was no stopping it.
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Yeah, I mean I have a friend.
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He moved out of Las Vegas.
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He lives in um, uh, vancouver, washington now and he's just a fair weather golfer.
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You know like he doesn't like nerd out and love it like we do, but he does love the game and you know, if it's too cold, like he's not going and I just like, if I have the opportunity to go, I'm gonna going to go, like you know like me.
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I remember one of the one of the worst days I've ever had, weather wise, was with Dan.
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We were first out at Paiute.
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It was like 42 degrees and windy and it was cold, but we, we were first out, we were done in two hours.
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We got our round in and we were, we were done.
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You know like get it in and we were, we were done.
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You know like get it in and then the hails.
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You have the opportunity to do it yeah, yeah, it was nice.
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Something that's really that really changed me playing in the winter time was, uh, those under armor pants, that are the winter pants that have the, the thermal lining on the inside of them.
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Oh, my god, though I mean the wind could be blowing like crazy and it just does not penetrate those pants and your legs stay warm, and that's that's for me.
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My feet or legs get cold, then I'm I'm done, but uh, I can handle my, my head and you're on mute, joe, there's probably like a podcast on like tips to get through the winter, like to play golf, because there's there's so many like tips now, like the digital hand warmers that you can charge like, and there's some hard cover, yeah, cart cover, I mean the heaters and the cars I mean there's also companies that are building their, their gear to withstand the cold.
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So I was at it.
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I was at legacy also.
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Um and uh, it's getting better, it's getting better.
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The greens were rolling pretty good courses in good shape.
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Uh, it wasn't a bad day out there.
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So and that was Sunday, was absolutely gorgeous Weather, probably the nicest fall day we've had in a long time.
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So, absolutely gorgeous weather, probably the nicest fall day we've had in a long time.
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So all right all right, robbie, it's.
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It's like my standards.
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I like to think I do, but I don't.
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I think it's.
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I think he means I think he's.
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I think he means his uh standards are low, like it doesn't really matter at the end of the day, like that's what I would guess.
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Okay, so, uh, our vegas rankings episode.
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So I want to tell everybody a little bit about this so they understand how we did this.
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First off, I want to say nobody has paid us for this.
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Nobody is giving us free tea times for this.
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Uh, if we love a course, we're gonna say we love it.
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If we don't like a course, we're gonna say we don't like it.
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That's it.
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Um, you know, maybe some courses are gonna say we don't want you to come out here anymore.
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That's that's the risk we take by putting our opinions out there.
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But this is this is an opinion, this is our opinion of what we think, and, uh, so take that with a grain of salt.
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You know, this is not I'll also say, like we don't, we don't pay out of town rates, so we are basing this on the rates that we pay.
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Yes, and uh, I know, uh, mark, it's like I'm saying um posted that thing about Paiute being expensive.
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Yes, it is expensive, but so are all the other courses.
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I paid $60 one time for Sienna and the other dude paid $180.
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So it's like we don't know what the out-of-town rates are.
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So we're basing it on what we pay to play, and the other courses are still marked up considerably of what we pay to play and the other the other courses are still marked up considerably of what we pay.
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And the best way to go about that is to search for tea time prices through whatever it is golf now or what is that?
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The tea time app or the tee off app, whatever it is.
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Do your research before you book and search for the best price.
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These are the best courses for what we pay in Las Vegas as a resident, and they're still the best courses you can play.
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So there you go.
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And I mean, if we get to play a course at a discount, we don't consider that, we don't change that, our opinion of it, you know, if we get, you know, every now and then we get free rounds in some places, you know.
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So we, we look at what the rate is that day and that's that's what we would consider as far as value goes.
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So, uh, the, the ratings are on a hundred point scale.
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Uh, we have 70 points for the golf course, which is broken down into design, playability, the practice area, practice area and the conditions.
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And then the other 30 points are what we call the extras, and that's the vibe of the course, the value for the price.
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You're playing.
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That's where that comes in, the value for the price.
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So, yes, some courses are very expensive, but are you getting value out of it?
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So that's part of it.
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And then the pro shop.
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How good is a pro shop is something we all step on there.
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So design is worth 20 points, playability is worth 20 points, the practice area is worth 15 points, conditions is worth 15 points, and then vibe is worth 10, value is 10, pro shop is 10.
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Let's see what matt is hoping.
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Desert pines tell him not to come everybody, I wouldn't be offended.
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I wouldn't be offended.
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So, uh, design is is how.
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How well we like the design of the golf course, you know.
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Uh, flat, straight, back and forth, not going to be as highly ranked as something that meanders through canyons and and, uh, you know, has some incredible views, yada, yada yada.
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Playability uh, jeremy and dan were asking about this and I think joe's very confused about a few of these, but we'll see.
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Uh, playability is is how many options are there for you to play this golf course?
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So, if this was the only course in town and you had to play it every single day, would you be able to have some variety?
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Would you be able to change the tees and still play and enjoy a round of golf?
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Some courses, when you play the tees, you're very limited because there's only 20 yards separating the boxes.
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Some courses out here with desert golf, they have six or seven tee boxes and they mix it up all the time.
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Then there's courses like piute that you know.
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The back tees on the snow course isn't exactly long, so the big hitters may not be as forget as as playable for them.
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So that's what that is.
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The practice area is very simple.
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How good is the practice area.
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And then conditions.
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I tend to look at this and you guys can let me know your thoughts on this as well.
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I don't look at it as like the best of the year, but how is it throughout the year, is it you know?
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We know dormant, dry conditions, we're expecting that, but still, how is the course when that's taking place?
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We know lush, pure conditions.
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How is the course when that's taking shape?
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Vibe is when you're there, what's the vibe like?
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Is it?
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Is it you know?
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Do you feel inviting or like do you feel like you belong?
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Do you feel like everybody's having a good time?
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Do you feel that there's good energy coming out of the place?
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Value for price that's an easy breakdown.
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And then pro shop.
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I mean if you got two shirts hanging on your the door to the cashier, horrible pro shop.
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But if you have multiple brands clubs, shoes, towels, great merch, custom head covers, all that kind of stuff to where you can go in there and shop, then you're going to get a higher rating on that.
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So that's how we did it.
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We broke it down.
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Each of us submitted our things.
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I have a spreadsheet where I printed it all all out.
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I got all the numbers right here and uh, yeah, we can, we can break it down.
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I have some banners that will run across and we always start from the bottom and work our way up.
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So I think just so, because last times we've done this they've been super long yeah, so I condense it.
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Yeah, I think we just go down, we just go quick down to the top 20, and then we could spend a little more time in the 20 to 10 and then yeah, yeah, um, so there's also.
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You'll see on the scrolling the, the little uhPN line on the bottom here coming up a second.
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If there's an asterisk next to it, that means only two of the four of us played the course.
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So maybe a little bias on that, because we don't have, you know, at least three or all of us have played it, so that's why you'll see the asterisks on there.
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And then let's see, there's only two courses that we did not rank, and that is the mojave resort, because dan's the only one that's played it.
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Uh, joe, jeremy myself have not.
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And win, uh, joe is the only one who's played.
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Win, jeremy, dan, myself twice, twice Twice and once with VGK.
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Jesus you played DI, though?
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Yes, I did.
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More than once too.
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There you go, all right.
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So new on the rankings Because the last time we did this was in 2022.
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We didn't do it last year.
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Dan came on and we said, oh, let's wait, and instead of doing it every year because it gets kind of redundant, let's do it every two years.
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That way, we have, uh, unfortunately, some courses that have left us, and uh gives a chance for courses that are maybe going through some changes to to up up their game and see how it's going.
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Uh, so new on the rankings this year uh, shadow creek makes its debut.
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Um, laughlin ranch makes its debut.
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Falcon ridge uh, ranch makes its debut.
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Falcon Ridge, red Rock Country Club and the Summit.
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So those, they were ranked the first year because it was just Joe and myself, and so if I had played it, I ranked it.
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But now that we have kind of a majority, you'd have to have on there to get it or not.
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A majority at least two.
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Those are on there.
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Thanks, dan, you brought a lot of that to the table.
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To have on there to get it or not, a majority at least two.