E297: Joe's Triumph, VGN Finals Buzz, and Vegas Super Tournament Dreams

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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a champion amongst us.

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The sole golfer had enough of getting called out about not caring about golf and actually showed up and played some.

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Actually, you played some really damn good golf, joe.

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Yeah, it's been a while, so so what?

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What the hell?

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Hey, hold on, we'll get into it in a second.

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Uh, thanks everybody so much for tuning in to the show.

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You know we got to run down all the stuff that we do every week.

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Uh, thanks everybody so much for tuning in to the show.

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You know we've got to run down all the stuff that we do every week.

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Big shout-out to Roars Golf, one of our show sponsors Also want to show some love to the Golf Stop, the indoor track band facility on St Rose Parkway out here in West Henderson.

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Go check them out if you have not.

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They've got a league starting.

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I don't know if it started already, but check them out.

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Great spot, there's a new Buzz coffee that just opened up next door.

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Have you been there yet anybody?

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No, but I want to go.

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Yeah, I got to go.

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I may go check that out tomorrow.

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I got to go by Julian's house so I may run by there and pick up your curds man Come pick up your curds.

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Oh, speaking of curds, I got something about curds.

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So also thank you, Scott Russo, for letting us to continue to use Harmonic as the intro.

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So here, this is what I was going to say.

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This was from last week.

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I haven't clipped this yet, but I need to.

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I'm going to need some cheese curds.

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Send me some cheese curds and I'll quit it.

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Right there.

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Did you?

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hear that Send me some cheese curds and I'll quit it.

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There's the curds All the way from Wisconsin.

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So, Joe is not allowed to vape anymore.

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The person that he sent it to shout out Beautiful Golf Courses said Joe needs to vape less To Joe needs to vape less.

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So I'm going to try.

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I'm working on it, Mike.

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Sorry, but these cheese curds are great, Straight from Wisconsin.

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Squeaky, squeaky little curds.

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They're great.

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All right, no more vaping.

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And fix your Internet, because what the hell?

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You sound like you're calling in from the moon.

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I asked before we even started.

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I said how do I sound?

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You said great, what the?

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hell, you sounded great.

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Your video looks like shit though.

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Yeah, I don't know, it happens it happens?

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We'll see.

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We'll see if it figures itself out.

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So, joe, big winner gets some curds, goes out.

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And what did you shoot?

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74?

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74.

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Uh gets some curds goes out and and what did you?

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Shoot 74 74, two over, yeah, two over.

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I I, I was playing, I was playing pretty good.

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Uh, I had I was two over through 10 and I'm like, let's check the scores and see what's going on.

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You know, let's see where I'm at and uh, I look and I'm the fucking joe's like four under.

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I'm like and see what's going on.

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You know, let's see where I'm at and uh, I look at him, the fucking Joe's like four under.

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I'm like what the hell is going on now.

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Yeah, he, he, yeah, he has been bagging his, his scores lately.

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So you know the handicap is getting up there and you know he, he, he was getting what six I was getting two.

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I mean I wouldn't have beat him straight up, so it doesn't matter.

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But I also haven't shot in the 70s since, oh, it's been a while, it's been a long time.

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I mean, I don't think I was sandbagging, I mean like that round just came out of nowhere.

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I know, I'm just kidding.

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I.

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There wasn't anybody happier for you than me on on Saturday because it was, it was awesome.

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I think there was a lot of people that were very happy for me.

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honestly, yeah, but none of them were as happy as I was.

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Oh, okay, that's what I'm trying to say.

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Next Monday night we're going to host a.

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Who is happiest for Joe the most?

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So if you want to show up, we'll have a microphone there.

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No, I'm kidding, I mean Drop hung around to you know.

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Yeah, he waited.

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You know all the love on the VGN post was awesome.

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It's been a long time and, yeah, for me.

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So when I play like I have to play pretty damn perfect to win and that's the thing it doesn't happen very often.

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But I played close to perfect on Saturday and it was cool.

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Some swing changes or some swing thoughts have helped.

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The driver was fantastic, irons were great.

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I had at least four birdies that I missed by an inch or two maybe, so it could even.

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It could have even been better really, um, but yeah, it was.

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It was really cool to do.

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I got really tense for me at the end like um, for me at the end like, um, 15, 6, no, 14, 15 I think it was.

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Uh, I had, I got up and down.

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Well, actually, I made a bogey.

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I was super short on the long par three, so, uh, it was a little nerve-wracking.

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Yeah, I felt that in a long time.

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So, um, but I, I par par parred on the way in, so that was, uh, it was cool to do.

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I haven't done that in a long time, especially under pressure Three pars coming in the par-five with the water.

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I played right the entire time.

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That's the only chance Vic had.

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Yeah, I hit it to the right, I sliced it a the right, I, I, I sliced it a little bit and cut it, overcut it and then I laid up to like 110 yards, hit it into the hill and I got a like a flat lie there.

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And then I hit it super in the front of the green.

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The green, the flag was towards the back left and I hit a really good putt.

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It almost went in.

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That was almost a birdie, but tap in like six-incher and I knew then at that point it was mine, because the worst you can do is triple bogey and I was ahead by four.

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So full pressure relieved after 17.

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It was cool.

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Full pressure relieved after 17.

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It was cool.

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What Taylor told me was anybody that rides with him.

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They have won recently.

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Oh really.

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He said that's his thing.

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Well, he's not playing in the finals.

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So somebody's asked out yeah, but it was cool man I was, I was, I think it was for me like really low expectations because I hadn't played in a while and I just like let it go, like I was just really trying to enjoy the day and just be out there getting a break and, um, it started off really good.

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Like after I think five or six I was cart girl came around.

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I was like, yeah, this is going too well.

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I need, I need some drinks.

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I had a couple and uh, it's going too well yeah, because I mean that's a, that's a thing, right, like I hadn't played in a long time.

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So it was weird.

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You know, I hadn't played that good in a long time and uh, it made me feel a little uncomfortable playing that well.

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So so what you said, swing thought changes.

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Uh, what was that?

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um, it's more of a like at the top, kind of just dropping it behind me and then, through impact, just keeping my head down and like looking at the ball Because I tend to watch my club head more than the ball and it's just a drop it behind me and like, look at the ball and then go, you know, and I think that might be relieving the tension of like holding it off because I'm like, oh, you know, that's all it is really.

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I mean, I don't know how to explain it or explain the feeling, but that's, that's what it is in my head.

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Hey, ride that wave man, Ride that wave I mean well when we played Coyote last with Jeremy Trey and the other Jeremy.

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I found that out on like 9 or 10.

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And I was following my driver that time too, like I was close to Trey.

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So I'm just trying to remember that.

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But yeah, that's it and kind of led it to my irons this this past weekend instead of just the driver off the tee.

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So it worked out.

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Yeah, I chipped in on two for birdie and uh, I was like all right, good, good, you know.

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And then three and 14 are the only two holes that I popped on, so I'm like okay, okay let's just, I did see you, birdie number two, and I was very happy to take that skin away from you.

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Yeah, thanks, asshole, because nobody else did it in the net division.

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So gross skins and net skins, you cost me money.

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Thanks, appreciate that.

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I was happy for you and everything, of course.

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Yeah, joe, what did you think?

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Because I've been out there, you know that was the third time I've been out there this month and I've seen it go from crazy shit to you know really good, but I'm curious your thoughts.

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I think that's also one of those things.

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It's like, uh, legacy I'm very comfortable with, like I've played very well at legacy throughout my past golf rounds and um very familiar with the course, familiar with the layout, and um there were some rough patches, for sure.

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The greens were furry and pretty slow, so you had to hammer it.

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Even if it was like a downhill putt, like it wasn't, you couldn't tap it, it wasn't gonna go anywhere.

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So you should have seen it the weekend before, because, oh, it was brutal, you would I mean they were.

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They were fast compared to what they have been the past week and a half there you say.

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You know they were furry and slow, it's like, not compared to what they were a week ago.

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So but it's, it's getting better.

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I think it's getting better.

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I think it's in pretty good shape.

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They're making some improvements all around the place and well, it's one of those things, right, when people tell you it's a great layout, you know like you, automatically a lot of people automatically think, oh, it's a shit course, but legacy has a fantastic layout.

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Um, they're trying, you know, it's, it's a great, it really is a great layout, it's a very fun course and, uh, I just wish I wish they could get those cut those greens down a little little tighter, you know they will be.

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They will be.

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They just they just couldn't do it right now.

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It's just, it's it's been too hot.

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And they I mean uh, josh, uh or trey, told me that you know, saturday morning was the height they cut, it was the lowest that they have cut it so far.

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So they, they put it the lowest that they could for us.

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I mean, it wasn't for us, but they, you know, just so happened to be on the day that we were out there was the lowest that they've been able to cut it.

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So, um, but I, I think some of the like, the downhill putts were much faster than they were.

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The uphill putts weren't as slow, even though they were slow.

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But yeah, like I think it was good.

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I think it was good.

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I mean nothing really to complain about.

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I mean a lot of people when they get to play golf you know they want, they want Augusta, but that's just not reality.

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It really is not reality.

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So a lot of people don't take that to heart or mind and not every golf course is Augusta or whatever your top of the line is.

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Hey, Hedgerag wants to know if Alfredo gave you some swing tips and that's why you won.

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Yeah, he texted.

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He was texting me all week, and it was you know I had to ship them out.

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I went on Amazon, sent him some honey buns and you know he took care of me.

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So I thought your hands would be sore yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, they're just going to be you know, it's funny man.

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It's funny man.

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Like you know, I, I, I have so much time on my hands to be a male masseuse.

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You know, with two kids and my wife working and I'm working, and you know I have so much time on my hands, I have a side job of a male masseuse.

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So, uh, it's, it's funny how I have time to play golf and win golf tournaments.

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So it's, you know, it's, it's, it's a luxurious life.

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What can I say?

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So with Joe's win it got him into the finals.

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It bumped Doug out and got Joe into the finals.

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And then Sunday, dan and I were walking around Shriners we see Doug and so I had to tell him Joe bumped you out of the finals.

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But then I got to tell him also that, uh, you know, nick can't make it and so he's in, you know, on as the first alternate, and so he's pretty happy about that.

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Well, that's the thing going into that too.

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I like I knew I had to win to get into the final, like there was no chance otherwise right.

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So I didn't want to get home, but I didn't even think about this at all that day.

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I literally did not.

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I, I, I beforehand I was like I want to be sitting at home and watching everyone else play, like, and I'm not playing with everyone.

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So it's cool, you know, the the money's fantastic I got, I got the rental car for Baltimore, but I, I really didn't want to be sitting at home when the VGM finals were going on, not playing with you guys.

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So that that's, that's the big win for me.

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You know, I get to play in the final and get to play golf for two days in a row coming up, yeah and there may be another one of us in the finals.

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Jeremy, have you figured?

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out yet?

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uh, not quite, but I'm really pushing for it okay yeah, uh, so we had a couple guys uh from the diamonds division that are not going to be able to attend.

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Uh, so stephen jackson, first alternate, got in and and Jeremy is second alternate and so, yeah, just waiting to see if he can accept the invite.

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Dan, don't think we're going to get to you.

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Nope, nope, I'm too far down.

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Yeah, you got two more spots that need to go away and it's possible, but we'll see.

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We'll see.

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It's all good, I couldn't make it anyway.

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Oh, that's right.

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Bgc in the house.

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BGC in the house.

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Hey, we played it.

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I don't know if you heard it.

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I haven't clipped it yet, but I got proof Joe's not vaping, he quit.

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Well, maybe he quit just for the show.

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Right, here I'm trying Mike, I'm trying Mike, I'm trying Mike.

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Oh, I didn't know what he's talking about.

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I'm listening to the audio to hear Joe.

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He starts laughing.

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It's too funny, all right, so you guys need to.

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You guys need to come pick up some curds.

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I have too many, so you guys, I'll come by tomorrow.

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I'll try to come by tomorrow as well.

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I gotta get my shorts still too, and I think I might have ran into an emergency and had to wear the shorts so they might be dirty currently as long as you didn't have the emergency while you were wearing the shorts, I'm cool with that hey, two kids, two kids working male masseuse.

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You know like I didn't have time to do laundry so I ran into an emergency.

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They were ready to go for you, but is that what you were wearing at the tournament?

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I didn't see that's what I was wearing with Alfredo Wigglesworth.

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I definitely got to clean him.

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You definitely need to clean him.

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Too funny.

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All right.

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So the VGN finals, as we're talking about here, are set.

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I've got, let's see how many people.

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I'm waiting to confirm on this.

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Uh, let's see.

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Oh, hey, the knights just went up.

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Well, that's okay.

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Um, let's see, who are we waiting for?

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I'm gonna call you out live on the air here.

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So we are waiting for matt nalasco, big Matt.

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Oh, michael Visagas is not playing, so he is out.

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Let's see, all the Spades division has confirmed that they are coming.

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All the Hearts division has confirmed they are coming.

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We got four guys.

00:17:16.803 --> 00:17:18.730
Do you take Visa gift cards?

00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.626
For payment.

00:17:21.626 --> 00:17:24.026
Yeah, you can pay on the website.

00:17:24.828 --> 00:17:26.034
With the Visa gift card, all right.

00:17:26.615 --> 00:17:26.776
Yeah.

00:17:26.776 --> 00:17:33.567
So James Lewis, pierce Hollander, farzan Tutski and Daniel Morales, david McManus, all the clubs guys.

00:17:33.567 --> 00:17:36.430
I'm waiting to find out if they're playing or not.

00:17:36.430 --> 00:17:38.428
So what is at stake?

00:17:38.428 --> 00:17:41.829
And you know, I had a conversation with Mr Pusey today.

00:17:43.221 --> 00:17:46.881
He's not playing and it came down to a financial decision for him.

00:17:46.881 --> 00:17:52.983
Um, you know, he could work and make some money or he can go out there and try and and win and he looked at it.

00:17:52.983 --> 00:17:55.068
As you know, the odds are not in his favor.

00:17:55.068 --> 00:18:03.721
So I'm not going to play and that kind of that kind of stung, because you know I I don't want guys, uh, you know, not competing for a title.

00:18:03.721 --> 00:18:07.791
You know, because I'm I don't have it, the odds aren't in my favor.

00:18:07.900 --> 00:18:24.510
I want people that want to show up and play hard and try to win and come out and give it your best and show this whole community around us of golfers in the Vegas area that there's some serious talent playing in our top flight.

00:18:24.510 --> 00:18:35.865
So I was a little bummed that he didn't come out, but, uh, for everybody that's not aware, uh, the VGN finals we take the top 10 players from each flight, they all get the invite and we play a two day tournament.

00:18:35.865 --> 00:18:38.779
This year it's at Boulder Creek, next year We'll be back at Revere.

00:18:38.779 --> 00:18:43.048
And uh, it's a two day aggregate score to determine who wins.

00:18:43.048 --> 00:18:50.087
The top eight positions get points, the bottom two do not, and then you add those to your season points.

00:18:50.087 --> 00:18:54.471
Whoever has the most at the end gets the player of the year.

00:18:54.471 --> 00:19:00.169
It's a $1,000 prize and you get a very nice new trophy thanks to Atomic Golf.

00:19:00.730 --> 00:19:01.051
Yeah.

00:19:01.819 --> 00:19:08.625
Also, there is a tournament that's still taking place, not just to determine the player of the year, the 10 players from each flight.

00:19:08.625 --> 00:19:15.089
They're playing in a tournament and, uh, there's a 500 first place prize and a 250 second place prize.

00:19:15.089 --> 00:19:19.079
So, uh, good, money up for grabs for the tournament.

00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:32.374
Um, and then the winners of the flight, the winner of the flight, the winner of the division, the Diamonds division, the winner of the Spades Art Clubs division they get a free entry into next year's season, free membership.

00:19:32.374 --> 00:19:34.455
So there are some things to play for.

00:19:34.455 --> 00:19:44.087
So you know, I tell everybody it's hard to get guys to come out and play in a league that they signed up and paid to play in.

00:19:44.087 --> 00:19:47.006
I don't understand why, but you know we have something.

00:19:47.006 --> 00:19:53.346
This is what our third full season, fourth, two thousand and one, I think it's.

00:19:53.385 --> 00:19:57.028
third, I think it's third, third full season, fourth year.

00:19:57.028 --> 00:20:06.744
So next year will be our fifth year that we've been around and you know we're going to continue to make changes to make it better.

00:20:06.744 --> 00:20:20.712
The first thing on the agenda for our board of directors meeting is I want I think we're going to bump the finals up to 15 players per flight and give more guys an opportunity to play in the finals and bring back the, the win in your end.

00:20:20.712 --> 00:20:29.874
Rob had a great suggestion that, hey, we do the win if you're in, but you have to have a certain amount of events played in order to earn that perk.

00:20:29.874 --> 00:20:32.923
So you come out and you play the first event you win.

00:20:32.923 --> 00:20:34.307
You're not automatically in the finals.

00:20:34.307 --> 00:20:38.347
You have to hit a certain number of events played to earn that automatic bid.

00:20:38.548 --> 00:20:40.840
So there's a bunch of things we're working on.

00:20:40.840 --> 00:20:51.855
I would love to land a sponsor to help with greens fees and make the payouts better, uh, but we are a player funded league right now.

00:20:51.855 --> 00:20:59.401
You know we have some, some supporters and a few sponsors that help us out with some things, but mainly, the players are on the hook for everything.

00:20:59.401 --> 00:21:06.794
So, uh, you know, until somebody decides that they think we're worthy of emptying their pockets out for us.

00:21:08.040 --> 00:21:23.715
Yeah, that's how it's going to be, so yeah, and if you want that to change, I mean, why don't you share it and get more players in and spread the word of a sick ass golf league in Las Vegas where you can be out of the finals and then win the final one and get in?

00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:32.144
I mean everybody has Matt plumber too.

00:21:32.144 --> 00:21:33.692
Matt plumber, he won, he won the diamonds fight and he got in dude.

00:21:33.692 --> 00:21:34.414
Everybody has the same opportunity.

00:21:34.414 --> 00:21:48.763
I mean, like I'm going into the finals, like I have to win, so I mean, if I don't dude, I get to still play golf and there's still something to play for in that, even if I don't win, I can still play for skins, which the skin spots are always fantastic.

00:21:48.763 --> 00:22:07.005
You know you, you play, you play decently, like last year when, um, I fired, like I think I was like four under on the front nine last year and I tanked on the back but I still won money and I still got my entry fee paid for there's always something to play for in Vegas Golf Network.

00:22:07.005 --> 00:22:12.709
If you're a player in VGN, spread the word, get more players in and they can grow.

00:22:13.862 --> 00:22:15.628
Then the pot will get bigger.

00:22:15.628 --> 00:22:19.505
Biggest way to increase the payouts Increase the participation.

00:22:20.127 --> 00:22:20.568
Absolutely.

00:22:22.401 --> 00:22:25.688
We'll be going on a huge kick here once the finals wrap up.

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The season starts in February.

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Registrations open Now.

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If you want to, vegas golf networkcom, come check us out, come check us out.

00:22:33.506 --> 00:22:39.113
So let's get into some Shriners chatter, shriners talk.

00:22:39.640 --> 00:23:09.730
Dan and I were out at Shriners on Sunday and yeah, I don't know, right, dan yeah, it's just a little lackluster, you know, I think, just the fact that there's hardly any big names playing anymore, and the crowds were it was a Sunday, it was a good tournament and the weather was amazing it was great yeah

00:23:11.108 --> 00:23:12.353
and the crowds were 20 minutes.

00:23:12.353 --> 00:23:13.135
20 minutes, yeah, 20 minutes.

00:23:13.135 --> 00:23:17.148
Yeah, we were wondering.

00:23:17.148 --> 00:23:18.626
We were like where the hell is Joe?

00:23:18.626 --> 00:23:21.317
And then Matt even called it he goes.

00:23:21.317 --> 00:23:25.135
I bet you Quinn probably threw a tantrum and they kicked him out of here because she was being too loud.

00:23:25.135 --> 00:23:27.710
And then, like 10 minutes later, a text came through.

00:23:27.710 --> 00:23:28.913
Quinn threw a fit.

00:23:31.945 --> 00:23:36.826
Yeah, I mean it was close to their nap time, I mean definitely quinn's nap time.

00:23:36.826 --> 00:23:45.962
So, and with that 10 minute walk just to get in there, like you know it took, it took a minute, but um, theo had a little bit of fun, but we were right next to the first t.

00:23:45.962 --> 00:23:48.828
I don't know if anybody was t enough, but yeah it was.

00:23:48.828 --> 00:23:50.592
Uh, I felt bad.

00:23:51.814 --> 00:24:05.771
I felt bad the picture you sent where she was just getting ready, oh, where she was getting, just oh that was hilarious, oh yeah I was cracking up I pulled out a piece of candy out of the diaper bag, gave it to her.

00:24:05.811 --> 00:24:08.987
She calmed down in like 10 seconds and then I just bolted out of there.

00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:13.730
Good, Good move, I am gone, I am gone.

00:24:14.487 --> 00:24:16.815
The emergency sandwich and emergency candy.

00:24:17.530 --> 00:24:17.999
Yeah, look at.

00:24:19.429 --> 00:24:20.532
Yeah, there, it is right there.

00:24:21.125 --> 00:24:21.748
Look at Theo.

00:24:21.748 --> 00:24:23.930
He's going to have some fun in his bandage.

00:24:24.787 --> 00:24:26.053
He's like not having it.

00:24:28.905 --> 00:24:30.932
Theo's like we're leaving, aren't we Dad?

00:24:31.193 --> 00:24:31.454
Yeah.

00:24:36.884 --> 00:24:37.307
Let's play some golf.

00:24:37.307 --> 00:24:37.508
Golf dude.

00:24:37.508 --> 00:24:39.277
When I told him where we're going, he's like I get to play right.

00:24:39.336 --> 00:24:50.376
I'm like no dude, you don't you know maybe one day maybe one day yeah, it's fall yeah, so I mean, I was impressed.

00:24:50.376 --> 00:24:54.811
The greens looked absolutely remarkable, they looked flawless.

00:24:56.346 --> 00:24:59.054
So much of the areas around the green were shaped.

00:24:59.094 --> 00:25:02.313
I mean Dan and I were both like, do you remember it being that shaped down around the greens?

00:25:02.313 --> 00:25:05.753
So I mean the runoffs were great.

00:25:05.753 --> 00:25:16.092
I mean the guys still played well, even with the windy weather on Friday, and I don't know it.

00:25:16.092 --> 00:25:18.116
Just this is what I said to Dan.

00:25:18.116 --> 00:25:31.538
We were sitting there and I said, you know, vegas is glitz, glam, stars, boxing championships, super Bowls, nascar, formula One.

00:25:31.538 --> 00:25:39.010
You know professional bull riding, bull games, the nc2a tournaments, it's big, big, big, big.

00:25:39.010 --> 00:25:42.375
And the shriners just isn't big.

00:25:42.375 --> 00:25:43.618
It's not, it is.

00:25:43.618 --> 00:25:54.648
It is the highest level of professional golf, but it's the, the lower tier of that profession, and there's so many, there's so many, there's so many good golfers.

00:25:54.648 --> 00:25:55.290
Don't get me wrong.

00:25:55.290 --> 00:25:56.855
Don't get me wrong these guys are great.

00:25:57.826 --> 00:26:00.731
I'm not going out and shooting 20 under over four days at Shriner.

00:26:00.731 --> 00:26:06.814
So I mean world talents, these guys, but it's not a draw, it's not.

00:26:06.814 --> 00:26:14.770
I mean Ricky Fowler, one of the biggest draws in the field, had a very small gallery following him.

00:26:14.770 --> 00:26:23.719
It was weak, it was live size, it was bad, but in comparison we were out at live.

00:26:23.719 --> 00:26:27.422
The crowds at live blew Shriners out the door.

00:26:27.422 --> 00:26:33.406
I mean blew it away, and that's sad.

00:26:33.406 --> 00:26:34.167
That's sad.

00:26:34.448 --> 00:26:52.060
So what I suggested was you need to cut all affiliation with PGA Tour, live, dp, world Tour, whatever all these tours, and just get 50 of the best players in the world.

00:26:52.060 --> 00:27:00.596
It doesn't matter where you play, it doesn't matter who you play for, it doesn't matter how you earn your money on the golf course during the season.

00:27:00.596 --> 00:27:22.253
October, the end of October, in Vegas, the best 50 golfers on the planet play for a huge money purse out of Shadow Creek and just blow it up and have it be a golf event that everybody wants, because that's what Vegas is.

00:27:22.253 --> 00:27:26.777
That's the Vegas draw, shriners is not it, shriners, is not it?

00:27:27.005 --> 00:27:32.278
And it breaks my heart because it's the local tournament that we have.

00:27:32.278 --> 00:27:35.272
It's our tournament, it's our chance to go out and see the professionals.

00:27:35.272 --> 00:27:37.703
Uh, you know, it was fun walking around.

00:27:37.703 --> 00:27:38.646
It was great seeing harry.

00:27:38.646 --> 00:27:39.912
It's fun watching him play.

00:27:39.912 --> 00:28:04.123
It was great seeing a lot of the you know, local guys that play out it and watching the crowds and the kids and, uh, but it's not, it's not vegas, it's just not it don't fit anymore did you see the video of uh no laying up neil, where he was talking about how shriners children is like?

00:28:04.323 --> 00:28:23.652
uh, obviously non-for-profit um brand company hospital, but pj tour charges them to be a sponsor and like what they net from the tournament like, but the pga tour is about giving back.

00:28:23.652 --> 00:28:32.093
So I I I only watch the quick snippet, but I have to watch that yeah, like so.

00:28:32.093 --> 00:28:34.057
Pga tour is about giving back.

00:28:34.057 --> 00:28:41.474
Shriners has to pay to be a sponsor of the tournament and then they get what they get from you know?

00:28:41.615 --> 00:28:49.064
I mean, it's a it's a great way for a company like Shriners to get some exposure, but no yeah it's, it's fantastic.

00:28:49.064 --> 00:28:49.244
Right.

00:28:49.265 --> 00:28:52.792
Like you know, they do a great job with the videos of the kids.

00:28:53.013 --> 00:28:54.837
Oh, it's amazing, it's amazing.

00:28:55.285 --> 00:28:57.994
You know, but there's something missing.

00:28:57.994 --> 00:29:06.675
And yeah, like you said, it's not Vegas, but you know, I love going, I love being there every year.

00:29:07.278 --> 00:29:07.759
Yeah me too.

00:29:08.005 --> 00:29:28.192
I love that we can see Vegas on TV in a golf tournament and I love all that aspect, but it, it, it doesn't hit hard, you know, and in vegas we hit hard, and I think that's what you're getting at like, when we, when we do something, we do something and shriners doesn't do it to the fullest.

00:29:28.192 --> 00:29:40.182
I mean when you're there as a attendee, like it's fantastic, but like I don't know it is, I get what you're saying yeah, it's just it's.

00:29:40.722 --> 00:29:42.125
Wouldn't you say so, dan too, do you?

00:29:42.125 --> 00:29:42.827
I mean, you were there.

00:29:42.867 --> 00:29:47.244
It's just there's no buzz yeah, it's just, there's no buzz there.

00:29:47.244 --> 00:29:48.707
It just falls real flat.

00:29:48.707 --> 00:30:06.851
You know, I don't know if it's shriners to sponsor themselves, you know, granted, I'm sure they do a lot of wonderful things, um, but maybe just a new sponsor somehow could bring a little bit more life into it.

00:30:06.851 --> 00:30:08.895
Or maybe it's just the location too.

00:30:08.895 --> 00:30:14.094
Maybe they need to shake up, you know, the tpc Summerlin and move it to Shadow Creek.

00:30:14.094 --> 00:30:16.278
Something's got to give.

00:30:16.278 --> 00:30:17.150
It's just.

00:30:17.150 --> 00:30:18.884
Yeah, like Joe said, it's just not hitting.

00:30:19.726 --> 00:30:21.352
I think it's really just the time of the year.

00:30:21.352 --> 00:30:27.896
That's really the only thing, Because if it was, I mean if they played, remember when we had, what was it?

00:30:27.896 --> 00:30:30.212
The CJ Cup was at Shadow Creek.

00:30:30.634 --> 00:30:31.426
Yeah, that was during.

00:30:31.446 --> 00:30:34.165
COVID right, yeah, was it.

00:30:34.165 --> 00:30:35.391
The cj cup was at shadow creek.

00:30:35.391 --> 00:30:38.502
Yeah, that was during covet right yeah, yeah, and when that was the same, yeah it was a week after weekend or the week before, or something.

00:30:38.502 --> 00:30:44.064
I mean you had everyone there, but that was also before they switched up the fedex and yeah, it could.

00:30:44.084 --> 00:30:53.648
Just it could just be on the pj tour, like you know, like they changed the whole fall season around, so we don't, we don't get any names to draw in it destroyed it.

00:30:54.026 --> 00:30:55.410
It's the same thing for every tournament.

00:30:55.410 --> 00:30:56.513
Now this time of year.

00:30:56.513 --> 00:31:03.950
It's just players trying to improve their ranking, and that's the only reason they're there.

00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:11.204
Yeah, I like your idea, though A non-affiliated tournament inviting the top players?

00:31:11.204 --> 00:31:12.074
That would be incredible, that's totally Vegas, totally Vegas.

00:31:12.074 --> 00:31:12.778
Idea though a non-affiliated tournament, yeah, by the top players, that would be incredible.

00:31:12.778 --> 00:31:15.148
That's, that's totally vegas totally vegas.

00:31:15.288 --> 00:31:38.636
And then you just, and you just line that walkway up to the clubhouse with vendors, you know, and I mean, just make it a fucking show, make it a show of the talent and like, hey, after four days give them a big ass w WWF belt and a check for $20 million and have the showgirls there and have Oscar Goodman pouring some gin.

00:31:38.636 --> 00:31:44.798
I mean, just make it what golf fans want to see.

00:31:44.798 --> 00:32:05.718
It doesn't have to be the Ryder Cup every two years, it doesn't have to be the major, just the best golfers on the planet, regardless, regardless of who you are and and haven't you know, have golfers pick you know like screw the rankings, screw this, screw, because you know it just.

00:32:06.621 --> 00:32:08.586
We all know who the best golfers in the world are.

00:32:09.027 --> 00:32:13.277
Everybody knows, let's all get them on told my buddy at work.

00:32:13.277 --> 00:32:14.086
He was like who won?

00:32:14.086 --> 00:32:17.557
I was like jt post, and he's like who's that exactly?

00:32:17.557 --> 00:32:20.786
It's like, well, you're not a fucking golf nerd.

00:32:20.786 --> 00:32:22.730
I guess I don't know what to tell you.

00:32:22.730 --> 00:32:26.397
You know there wasn't many names out there.

00:32:26.397 --> 00:32:32.336
You know probably, you know maybe a couple, but yeah, I don't know.

00:32:37.116 --> 00:32:37.417
It's sad.

00:32:37.417 --> 00:32:42.505
Who were we talking to that said that they heard that this is the last year for Shriners to be the sponsor, or next year is the last year, chase?

00:32:42.505 --> 00:32:46.051
Oh yeah, swingpoint was saying that, so I don't know how true that is.

00:32:46.051 --> 00:32:48.332
We'll find out when it happens.

00:32:48.332 --> 00:33:00.397

E297: Joe's Triumph, VGN Finals Buzz, and Vegas Super Tournament Dreams

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