Oct. 2, 2024

E294: Vegas Heat Wave Woes, Mitch's Revenge Recap, and Visual Golf Pollution.

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Ever wonder how a heat wave can upend your golf game? Join us as we share our firsthand experiences with a scorcher in Las Vegas and its impact on the overseeding schedule. We'll also recount the highs and lows from the grueling Mitch's Revenge event at Coyote Springs, from a 6-putt to almost Eagles. As the October cool-down approaches, we're gearing up for exciting upcoming events like Black Desert and the Shriners.

Are you curious about the quirks and wonders of the Southwest desert? We have you covered with our preview of the Black Desert Golf Tournament, complete with a debate on course difficulty and a hilarious encounter with a 60-foot naked Trump statue. Plus, discover the fascinating art installations, including the Seven Magic Mountains and the Rhyolite ghost town. These amusing anecdotes and local trivia will make you eager to explore these unique desert attractions yourself.

Lastly, we dive into a spirited chat about Visual Pollution in golf. You won't believe where this sends the conversation and how much putter aesthetics we discussed. We cover it all. You'll also hear about Matt's latest breakthrough and embarrassment, thanks to some grip advice via the internet (of all places). 

Whether you're a seasoned golfer or just a fan of the sport, this episode promises a blend of insightful discussions, personal stories, and a glimpse at what's on the horizon in the world of golf.

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Chapters

00:28 - Chasing Daylight Golf Podcast Episode 294

11:36 - Black Desert Golf Tournament Preview

18:15 - Golf Tournaments

31:48 - Golf Course Visual Pollution Conversation

45:25 - Putter Aesthetics and Visual Preference

01:01:22 - Golf Course Etiquette and Equipment Preferences

01:10:44 - Golf Grip Revelation and Improvement

Transcript
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the chasing daylight podcast, coming at you from a little different angle.

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Today.

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I'm trying to get my screen back so I can actually see what the hell's going on.

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Um, welcome everybody to another show.

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Joe is kind of muted right now.

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He's got a child crisis that he's dealing with, so we don't want to uh punish you all with the the the child noises.

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So as soon as he gets some uh bullpen relief on the fam, joe will be joining us.

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Uh, the meantime, jeremy's here.

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He's muted right now but he's here.

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Dan is here and uh we're, you know, back with another episode to talk some golf.

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Uh, first off, out of the gates, as always, want to thank all the people that uh support us uh in our endeavors to make this show happen each week.

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And also want to give thanks to Scott Russo for his continued support and allowing us to use Harmonic as the intro for the Chasing Daylight podcast, episode 294, boys, how are we all doing this evening?

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Doing?

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great, yeah, we're good.

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Joe was doing good, but he's not doing so good right now.

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Hey, so we got this heat wave going on in Vegas.

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I'm a little concerned.

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I'm ready for October.

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October, if anybody has not ever heard us say, is the best month in Vegas, hands down.

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The weather is amazing.

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We don't have any crazy wind, it's cool in the evenings, it's cool in the mornings, it's nice in the daytime, the golf is outstanding, all the courses are coming off overseas and it's a great time, but a mother nature has not allowed us to uh participate in that right now, because it's another record today 103.

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I think it was the high today, just just nuts and I.

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What I'm concerned about is all these courses that did the overseed.

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It's not going to take cause it's too damn hot.

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Yeah, so fingers crossed that, uh, you know Maddie G is is on another sabbatical for his duties with the chasing daylight podcast.

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So, um, I can tell you this weekend it's going to be hot.

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Uh, more upper nineties.

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Um, finally starting to cool off next week, but uh, yeah, so hey, so let's the courses.

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I've seen, though they look.

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They look mint like desert willow looks incredible oh, my god, and I drove by lex.

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I drove by lex today, wow angel park, it looks fantastic yeah, they all look really ppc vegas is back open.

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highland falls is back open.

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Um, yeah, all the courses are back.

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So, um, most of them, for the most part, are back, so let's hope.

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Let's hope that the heat doesn't screw everything up and make it for a really bad month of golf, because we got some great events coming up.

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We got Black Desert is taking place next week in Southern Utah, then we got the Shriners.

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The week after that we got a VGN event.

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There's all kinds of stuff going on, but we had Mitch's this last weekend and for those who don't know what Mitch's Revenge is, they take Coyote Springs and they tip it out and put you at the back of the back boxes which comes around about 7,500, 7,600 yards.

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The greens they actually rolled the greens, they were fast and they put the pins in stupid positions.

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Jeremy and I had no idea how they could get any worse than they were for the VGN event, but how worse were they?

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They were quite a bit worse.

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I mean, there was a couple that I feel were more fair, but, man, some of them were next to impossible.

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One was brutal, yeah, one was tough.

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That was absolutely ridiculous.

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14 was that.

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We watched the group in front of us.

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Funny story in front of us.

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We watched the group in front of us.

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One of the guys in that group uh, not don davis, who's a listener uh hit how many chip shots?

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Four, four or five chip shots onto the green and back down.

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So they, they definitely had mitch's revenge set up so I six putted, don't forget, oh, I wasn't gonna say it.

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I wasn't gonna say it, but yes, oh I totally, I will totally lay my life on the tracks right there started off the first hole with a six putt.

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It was incredible yeah, and then, and then he just like went on like it didn't happen.

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Yeah, you got to, just let it go.

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Birdie the next hole with just a great shot.

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I mean, you had an eagle putt, which I haven't seen too many eagle putts on five.

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That is not an easy pin to get to.

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No, yeah, that was crazy.

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Yeah, so it was challenging.

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The funny thing is I played better from the Mitch's tees and Mitch's conditions than I did up a box in more favorable conditions the week before for the VGN event.

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That's golf, that's golf.

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That's golf.

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I can't explain it.

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That just shows you why you don't count every score on your handicap, because you have occasionally some anomalies in the good way and in the bad way, and that was 100% in the bad way, but something that happened and I felt about it you know, I am not somebody that hits into people.

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I, I have patience, I can wait.

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Um, so we're on the 15th fairway.

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I pulled my t-shot into the bunker.

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Two weeks ago I was in the exact same bunker with the exact same club and, uh, I play for a lab because it's all, it's all.

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Carry water.

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You got to carry the water.

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There's no in front of the green, there's from that angle, it's just water.

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It's water.

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A little hill.

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Uh, you can see on my instagram where I splashed out of that same exact area.

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Uh, so that's what I was, that's what you have to cover to get to the green.

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I laid up two weeks ago, prior to that, and so I said I'm just going to lay up again and absolutely hit the best fairway bunker shot of my life that I happened to pull a little bit.

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And I looked up at Jeremy and he's just sitting there staring and he goes you hit the green.

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I was like, what do you mean?

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I hit the green green.

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I thought he was gonna tell me you're in the water, you know.

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And, uh, because I knew I pulled it.

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But I, I mean it was.

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It was stupid, it was 170 yard carry, 175 yard carry and I hit a six iron from the fairway bunker.

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I was just trying and there's a 10 foot lip in front of me that I was trying to get over and just oh, but I almost killed somebody.

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Yeah, you were inches from hitting that guy.

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He was.

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He was getting ready to putt and this ball just bounced right behind his leg yeah, so uh I I I reached out, uh, don davis, a loyal listener, uh was playing in the event and he wanted to meet up.

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And uh, I sent him a message saying hey, I apologize.

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You know, um, jeremy had to get out of there.

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The round took forever.

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We had a group in front of us that wasn't playing fast.

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And he's like, yeah, that was us.

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And I was like, oh crap, didn't mean to insult you, I'm so sorry, sorry.

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And he goes.

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I don't think we ever got behind that much.

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And uh, but I told him, I said, why didn't you say anything when I almost killed you?

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And he's like, ah, it wasn't me.

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He goes, dude was pissed, he goes.

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But uh, you know, I told him, I said shot of my life out of the bunker and I didn't even see it you know, that's.

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that's what's crazy about this game.

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Stuff like that happens.

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So to the gentlemen that were playing with Mr Don Davis, my sincere apologies.

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I was not trying to hit at you.

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I swear I am not that guy.

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That was an incredible shot, though.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Yeah, did miss the putt but made par on a hole that I got a seven on in the tournament, so I was happy about that.

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Yeah so, but I was.

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I was glad to see mitch's back to a challenging, you know event because it had gotten a little lackadaisical in the past.

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Um, oh, not sure how we can move on with that.

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Details Dan's six putt.

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Oh, that's real easy.

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That's real easy From the angle that I hit.

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My second shot in it was either make it or miss, because it was coming back at your feet.

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There's no way the ball was staying anywhere close to the hole unless I played it like seven or eight feet intentionally off to the left.

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So first, putt.

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I hit, went up about two, three feet short, rolled back about 15 to 18 feet back down.

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I did that three times, then smashed one through and then the second one almost went in.

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The second one like died on the lip and then came back and then came right back to your feet.

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But yeah, it was just, it happened.

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I had six putts.

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Later I walk off with an eight On the CDP feed on Instagram.

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The last reel that I posted is a shot of Dan and that was his approach on that hole.

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That's the number four.

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It's the number one handicap hole on the course.

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You smoke your drive.

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That iron shot.

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It's kind of hard.

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I cut it off because I zoom in on the original video, but I zoom in a little bit.

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You could see he almost holed it twice because it landed short, rolled past it, went up the hill, came back, almost holed again and then ended up 30 feet away.

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I mean it was an incredible shot that just ended up in the worst position and us putting on that for the first day first green that has a lot of lows on that hole oh my god, yeah, I, I parted and uh, I was like damn, I didn't, I didn't even make part of the week before and yeah, you and jay had some great up and downs on that hole yeah that was you had some, there was some you left it in a perfect spot on.

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It had to be.

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You had to be left of that pin because that was the only flat spot near anywhere near the hole yeah, if you were on that right side, you were gone yeah, you were oh and and steve, he had a because he was off in the, the thickets to the right and he had a great up because he he put it to a foot.

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And how it stopped, I have no idea yeah, that was amazing.

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Oh, it was a fun day.

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It was fun, but man it was a place uh, jeremy, lately did you find out if you won the ctp?

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I, I totally forgot, actually I haven't seen any results?

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uh, they haven't posted anything.

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Yeah, I don't even know what I shot yeah.

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You guys are going.

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We'll have to check in and see what the status is.

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Yeah.

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I said hard pass.

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Well, the main reason I was going out there, was to pick up my head cover.

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You're going to make the drive.

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You're driving all the way out there Might as well book a tee, a tea time, you know uh, they, they had me down as a.

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As a, I was getting 22 strokes and I was like good lord.

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So when, when I actually played well, I was like I went inside I said, okay, uh, you need to change this because I should not be getting 22 strokes, because if I do and I win anything, then people are going to be mad when they look me up and see that I'm you know a four handicap, not a, not a 16.

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So, um, please make the change on that.

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So I'm curious to see where everybody ended up yeah, but I haven't.

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I have not seen anything yet.

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So, yes, I have to keep our eyes out for that.

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So that's mitch's, but I think go back again next year, right?

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oh yeah just, oh yeah, oh yeah, it's always.

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It's not.

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As long as they keep putting the pins in positions like that, it's fun.

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Yeah, I mean you can't go into that.

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You can't, really can't go into that round expecting to play well you know, you can hope to play well, but you know it's why they have a break 80 pot.

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We can break 80.

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Did very well in mitch's revenge dude, someone broke 80 out there.

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I'd be impressed because yeah man that was, that was a tough this weekend.

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I'm not back, but we'll be back this weekend yeah, well, you guys in and out.

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There he goes, joe.

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See you later, joe I know, I know the real joe.

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Joe just wants to go see the, the 60 foot tall naked trump.

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That's oh yeah, I missed that how, jeremy?

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how did we miss that?

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where is it down?

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Is it north of the loves the gas station or is it like right, yeah, as you're, as you're coming back to the highway from the course.

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Um, it's.

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It's just before you get to love gas station in that like storage area.

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That's new, it's right there on the right.

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There was like a crane holding it up.

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I was like, is that a fat, naked trump?

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And sure enough as me, and barbara got near it, he's like, yeah, that's a fat naked trump, what the hell oh, yeah, it's, it's all that's might be worth driving up.

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Well, we'll be there, but yeah, that's that's crazy that's.

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That's why joe wants to go.

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He wants to see that, yeah, golfing dad's tavern, chiming in on ig, you guys are closing on that 300 show congrats.

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Yeah, coming soon.

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Coming soon.

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Five weeks away, six weeks away, um, but yeah, it took like you, dan, send us that message.

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He's like did you guys see the, the tall naked trump?

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And we're like what?

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And I swear like three minutes later it's all over.

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You know, vegas viral and and vegas locals, somebody erected a 60 foot naked trump in the middle of the desert.

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Yeah, they need to put that out where seven magic mountains is, since that's going away that'd be awesome is it is that they're taking that out that's what I heard.

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Oh wow, I mean, it was only supposed to be there for like six months, but it got so popular that they just kept it up which I mean yeah it looks cool, but I don't get it, does it?

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I mean you go there.

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Once you see it, you're like wow, that's actually impressive.

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And then I took the kids out there one day and we took some photos.

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I mean it's different, it's something you don't see every day.

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But yeah, the guy that did that made a lot of money.

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I think it was like $4.5 million.

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A stack painted boulders, what?

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Yeah, I swear to God, it was something like that.

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Maybe I'm a little off, but I could have swore it was something ridiculous like that.

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They paid him like $4.5 million to do that art installment.

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Who paid him?

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Holy shit, I don't know.

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We need to find out who would tell him that we've got a banging podcast.

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Yeah.

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I could be totally wrong.

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I could be fake news spreading misinformation, but I don't think so.

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I think I'm pretty close with this one.

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I feel good about it.

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Dan, have you ever been up to Rhyolite and seen all the art installations out there up near Beatty, the ghost town, rhyolite?

00:15:58.620 --> 00:15:59.643
I've never even heard of Rhyolite.

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You guys are killing me so yeah, I'm missing out I guess.

00:16:04.232 --> 00:16:09.667
No, that's up by uh uh, area 51 uh, kind of going that way.

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Uh, it's, it's.

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Betty is a town after the armagosa valley as you're headed north.

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I've driven through baby.

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Yeah, if you make a left at betty, go a couple miles down and make a right head up into the mountains.

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They're a little bit off it.

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There's uh rye light.

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Old goldstown was the largest, was at one point the largest populated town on the west coast oh shit and there's a bunch of ruins out there.

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The first three-story building erected on the west coast, uh, cool, cool, little, a little area to check out, but a bunch of people have gone and put some art installations out there there's.

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There is some cool stuff.

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If you just google rhyolite artwork, you'll see it so where the hills have eyes were filmed?

00:16:52.860 --> 00:16:59.513
it was filmed, no, but there was a, um, oh god what the hell's her name?

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it's weird ewan mcgregor and um scarlett johansson uh oh, the island, the island, that some of the island when they came out of the island and were in the desert.

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That was that was filmed at rye light.

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Interesting, great, great callback on the title.

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Jeremy, that's amazing, I have no dude, I think about that movie all the time I have have no idea why I've never even heard of it, it's pretty good the Island You've never.

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Oh, that's Primetime.

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Scarlett Johansson stuff.

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She's a babe, so yeah.

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And Ewan McGregor Train spotting days, Ewan McGregor.

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Okay, okay.

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Yeah, Joe will be here shortly.

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He says too much ipas yet not yet.

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Give, give him some time, give him some time, all right.

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So, uh, moving on from mitch's revenge, um, black desert.

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I talked, said a little bit about this in the intro.

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Uh, black desert is, uh next weekend.

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So if, uh, you have not played black desert, if you have not been fortunate enough to play black desert, highly recommend you tune in.

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I can't wait to see what the guys shoot out there.

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Yeah, um, so, uh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be good.

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The tv coverage should be amazing.

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They're going all out.

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Uh, they have some money because they got mower bots.

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You've seen those?

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Those are incredible.

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The electric automated lawn mowers they look like roombo's but with giant mowers on them.

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That they the.

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You know they're cutting uh hard-working wages, uh, from live people by putting automated lawnmowers out there.

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But it's, I mean, it's pretty cool to see.

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Uh, I'm not sure what one of those costs, but but yeah, they're, they're going all out.

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It it's the first event out there and it's it's going to be visually stunning yeah, it's gonna be amazing.

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I was trying to think like because when we played there it was it was new.

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I mean they had had it open for a while but it still felt brand new.

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But I don't remember a lot of places where it's fan friendly.

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I mean, it seems like a lot of those holes.

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It's either lava or somewhere you don't want to stand yeah, I think on the with the far south end of the course, where it's kind of near a neighborhood that was kind of open.

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I could see them putting up grand stands there and buzzing people in to watch over there.

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But apparently they've done a lot of work and, uh, have made it pretty, pretty tight.

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So we shall see, we shall see.

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Oh look who has decided to join the show.

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He's back what's up, I've been talking too much.

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I gotta take a drink.

00:19:55.471 --> 00:20:02.388
Well, katie typically takes tuesdays off, but this tuesday she had to work, so um she.

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She takes tuesdays off off for the love of the podcast, and this week she just couldn't do it.

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So I was watching the kids and yeah, here we are now.

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Welcome home.

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Here are the kids.

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Thanks, babe, there you go.

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There you go, the field looks decent, honestly.

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I was surprised.

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Black Desert Vent has a bigger person shriners yeah, well, yeah, yeah.

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I think there's some I would say some tech ceos throwing some money into that I would.

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I would think that there is uh, they are basically saying we need as many good guys here as we can.

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Let's make these purses a little bit more enlightening and get some guys here so we can sell rooms and sell golf packages and charge a lot of money.

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There's no title sponsor either.

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Isn't it just like the Black Desert Open or something?

00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:05.622
It's the Black Desert.

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Championship Sp by utah tech firms yeah, that that trophy looks sick.

00:21:13.101 --> 00:21:14.303
Oh, it's so good.

00:21:14.303 --> 00:21:20.534
It's so good, I hope it weighs like 400 pounds too this looks really good.

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Should have made it out of the rock that's there.

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Yeah, a little piece of Jeremy's skin on it hanging.

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A piece of Martin flesh.

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That is the number one memory I take away from that round.

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It's not the hidden tee box.

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Or how beautiful the golf course or your three woods.

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Or the three woods.

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We can never go back there again now, because that movie will fade away the more we play it.

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Black Dead.

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Red Cross you by Skinwalker Ranch.

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Okay.

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So, joe, actually it's good because know we talked about mitch's revenge, you weren't there um cut in on the the black desert, good, so, uh, how much president's cup did y'all watch?

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I watched, uh, quite a bit on saturday.

00:22:17.767 --> 00:22:23.144
I probably watched half of sunday um.

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Saturday was my biggest viewing day, though, for sure yeah, I don't watch much saturday.

00:22:28.520 --> 00:22:29.343
We were, we were.

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We spent a lot of time in coyote springs because it was a forever long round as expected.

00:22:35.844 --> 00:22:42.773
That's expected, so yeah yeah, um, I don't know they they.

00:22:42.773 --> 00:22:50.169
They made the guy in front of us because one of the marshals was at Grant was out there and he made him hit three balls off the tee.

00:22:50.169 --> 00:22:51.345
He wouldn't let him take a lateral.

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They were like it says right here on your scorecard that the desert area is played as a penalty area.

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So yeah, those guys were struggling.

00:23:04.201 --> 00:23:07.830
Anyways so President's Cup USA wins.

00:23:07.830 --> 00:23:10.767
I have to go back and listen to what I said.

00:23:10.767 --> 00:23:25.720
I thought it was going to be 18-something and it was Came out the gates hot 5-0 lead Kind of fell flat day two, tied it at five, put it away on Saturday and then wrapped it up on Sunday with some good golf.

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:33.848
There was some good golf going on, scotty he didn't win and the other matches that were going on were pretty interesting.

00:23:33.848 --> 00:23:40.185
What did you guys think about the drama with the making Kim putt?

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Did you see that at all?

00:23:43.221 --> 00:24:01.903
It seemed like there was a lot of drama surrounding the Kims this weekend, with him bitching about the, the gimme putt and going back laying his putter down with them, walking off the green before the other guy finished and at the presser saying that somebody cursed at him.

00:24:01.903 --> 00:24:03.923
It was like what's like?

00:24:03.923 --> 00:24:08.107
What the hell's going on over there like it's I don't know.

00:24:08.107 --> 00:24:11.519
I mean, he played well, it's fun, he's fun to watch.

00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:12.922
He's definitely entertaining in those teams.

00:24:13.363 --> 00:24:25.333
Yes, um but, but yeah, there's a lot of dramas surrounding that guy you can't get mad if somebody makes you put something something Right, yeah, if it means something.

00:24:25.393 --> 00:24:26.213
Yeah, you're putting it.

00:24:27.884 --> 00:24:29.167
Yeah, even if it doesn't mean anything.

00:24:30.181 --> 00:24:31.226
Yeah, you got to putt it up.

00:24:32.222 --> 00:24:36.128
I mean you're not Jack Nicklaus, You're not making concessions and shit like that.

00:24:36.128 --> 00:24:39.450
No, it's a different era of golf.

00:24:39.450 --> 00:24:42.067
Somebody says putt it, don't bitch about it.

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Putt it and move on.

00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:50.411
Well, I mean Roger roger steel's been on this like no gimmies, I mean, like you know the whole thing.

00:24:50.411 --> 00:25:05.310
I mean I mean if it's there's a potential chance that you can miss a three-footer all day, I mean oh, yeah all day yeah, depending on the cut you know, like there's a lot of things that can go wrong with a tap in.

00:25:05.471 --> 00:25:08.528
I mean, if it's a foot, okay I get it right.

00:25:08.528 --> 00:25:15.962
Like those guys are not going to miss a one foot putt or maybe a two foot putt, but like a three footer.

00:25:15.962 --> 00:25:18.949
There there's potential.

00:25:18.949 --> 00:25:32.266
There 100, I mean anything happened, 95 they're gonna make it or I don't know probably 98 yeah, but that two percent that two percent never know thanks you never know.

00:25:33.106 --> 00:25:36.411
I mean, I'm still, I'm still hurting from the vegas golf network.

00:25:36.411 --> 00:25:46.869
Uh, I had like a foot to tap in and I tied and I lost in the playoff and I didn't win, and that's that.

00:25:47.065 --> 00:25:47.968
That is what it is.

00:25:47.968 --> 00:25:48.890
Where was that at?

00:25:49.653 --> 00:25:50.012
Paiute.

00:25:50.816 --> 00:25:51.076
I was.

00:25:52.709 --> 00:25:55.557
I was like 18 inches and I just missed it.

00:25:55.557 --> 00:25:57.472
And then that was that.

00:25:57.472 --> 00:26:20.789
If, if I made that, I would have won the, the, you know the tournament, but it is what it is, but I'm a but, I'm a cheater, so it's all good I mean I wasn't gonna say anything, but you know, yeah, joe has been known to skirt the rules a little bit here.

00:26:20.789 --> 00:26:31.201
Hey, but in a tournament situation, if I don't make the putt, I count it until it's hold Okay.

00:26:32.065 --> 00:26:39.055
Absolutely, absolutely yeah, unless you're putting on number one at Mitch's Revenge and everybody is six putted.

00:26:39.055 --> 00:26:42.270
Then you just move on.

00:26:42.270 --> 00:26:51.128
Uh oh yeah, I love the roars logo, but you know the golf stop hopped on the ig chat so I wanted to give them a little love right there.

00:26:51.128 --> 00:26:55.065
So, um, golf, with dad saying he loves the roars logo.

00:26:55.645 --> 00:26:59.491
We got a couple roars logo we got this one yeah, I got that got that one.

00:26:59.491 --> 00:27:01.115
I love that logo.

00:27:01.115 --> 00:27:02.738
We'll give the golf stop a little love.

00:27:03.819 --> 00:27:08.392
All right, so next up, let's see, that's the President's Cup.

00:27:08.392 --> 00:27:11.271
So now the Ryder Cup.

00:27:11.365 --> 00:27:18.758
I will say before we move on, though, I think the President's Cup turned out way more entertaining than we thought it was going to be.

00:27:19.378 --> 00:27:21.368
Yep so.

00:27:21.548 --> 00:27:29.673
I think it was a good year for the press cup, you know, going five and O and then O and five, and then I think it turned out really good.

00:27:29.673 --> 00:27:33.720
I think it was a good weekend and hopefully they catch some steam.

00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:38.174
I mean, obviously it's obviously it's never going to be as big as the Ryder cup, but I think, I think it.

00:27:38.174 --> 00:27:40.390
I think cup, but I think I think it.

00:27:40.390 --> 00:27:41.972
Uh, I think I think it was good.

00:27:41.992 --> 00:27:54.736
I mean yeah, I'll just say that I saw somebody post that, uh, lpga players should get involved with president's cup, and I'm not against it.

00:27:54.736 --> 00:27:56.058
Not against it.

00:27:56.058 --> 00:27:57.320
It would be entertaining.

00:27:57.320 --> 00:27:57.962
Have a.

00:27:57.962 --> 00:27:58.403
Why do you?

00:27:58.403 --> 00:27:58.703
Why do?

00:27:58.723 --> 00:27:59.486
you think, why do you?

00:27:59.486 --> 00:28:03.435
Why is the writer cup so much bigger than the president's cup, though?

00:28:03.435 --> 00:28:10.480
Because I mean, with the president's cup there's a way more countries that are involved well, I think it's the history of the writer cup.

00:28:10.540 --> 00:28:20.470
It's been going on for so long and the usa dominated for so long that they had to change the rules and say, okay, you can let other countries play now that's what I said.

00:28:20.529 --> 00:28:21.553
Said Katie asked me.

00:28:21.553 --> 00:28:24.699
She was like why is this not as big?

00:28:24.699 --> 00:28:27.773
And I was like I just think it's like the history.

00:28:28.035 --> 00:28:29.707
Absolutely yeah.

00:28:29.707 --> 00:28:33.817
It's where golf was founded and where golf has flourished, going head to head.

00:28:35.665 --> 00:28:37.973
Way more moments on Ryder Cup.

00:28:37.973 --> 00:28:39.811
Oh, so many moments.

00:28:40.505 --> 00:28:45.069
But you know, with President's's cup we got hadelteen next and we got beth page for the writer cup.

00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:47.356
So we got beth page and hazeltine back to back.

00:28:48.445 --> 00:28:59.126
Oh god, here goes joe joe, you want to tell us about the time you played hey, didn't you play beth page recently something about some music in new york you played yeah, somewhat recently.

00:28:59.448 --> 00:29:09.690
Yeah, it was cool, I mean, you know there's 30 minutes on it last episode, if anybody missed it I'm just right or not worthy I think it's.

00:29:10.010 --> 00:29:54.913
I think I think it's really cool when they play courses that you can play, you know, and I think it gives uh, you know, there's like some sort of connection there and you can compare yourself to what those guys do out there, and I think that makes you know, I think that bridges the gap, I mean, and it helps you understand how much better they are than you, which which is cool, you know, and, um, anybody can go play there, and I'm I I'm excited to watch next year's Ryder Cup 100%, because now I can visualize walking through the holes and understand which way they're going, and if they say the wind's off the north, then I know where it's coming from and I know what they're going to be faced with.

00:29:54.913 --> 00:30:07.012
So I think it's really cool when there's a course that you're able to play as a golfer, as a normal golfer, and uh that's why I love the century.

00:30:07.073 --> 00:30:12.586
Every year, capaloo is yeah exactly tv does it absolutely zero justice.

00:30:12.586 --> 00:30:16.114
That course is insanely wild, um, and it's.

00:30:16.355 --> 00:30:45.978
It's so fun to watch seeing the shots that they hit that you can relate to so yeah, and I think that's why people love like state farm every year, because you can go play tory pines and you know, or farmers, yeah, state farmers, but um, we went into this like a month ago I think, but you know, I think I think it's so much cooler when you can like actually go play the courses that those play, the pros play.

00:30:46.118 --> 00:30:50.173
So I'm excited, I'm very excited it's gonna be, it's gonna be good.

00:30:50.173 --> 00:30:54.179
So, all right, well, before we get into the next couple things, um, let's run.

00:30:54.179 --> 00:30:58.038
Uh, some love for the las vegas golf superstore, and we'll be right back.

00:30:58.038 --> 00:30:58.768
What's that, joe?

00:30:58.768 --> 00:30:59.765
Las Vegas Golf Superstore, and we'll be right back.

00:30:59.765 --> 00:31:03.084
What's that, joe?

00:31:03.084 --> 00:31:06.638
Oh, oh, oh.

00:31:08.652 --> 00:31:09.294
They didn't have that.

00:31:12.185 --> 00:31:17.491
There's something that binds us all the joy of connecting on and off the course.

00:31:17.491 --> 00:31:19.240
Get there the way.

00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:25.972
A little heckle can be just the push you need get there a love language marked by admiration and respect.

00:31:25.972 --> 00:31:29.605
We're all bound by two words said by golfers worldwide.

00:31:29.605 --> 00:31:37.766
Get there, visit us at your local las vegas golf superstore or shop online at worldwidegolfcom worldwide.

00:31:38.507 --> 00:31:48.339
Get there get there, get there love the get there, all right, uh, so next up.

00:31:48.339 --> 00:31:52.311
Next up on the agenda for tonight's episode uh, the?

00:31:52.311 --> 00:31:55.380
Uh vgn, the vegas golf network.

00:31:55.380 --> 00:31:57.023
Thanks to everybody who is.

00:31:57.023 --> 00:32:00.332
Uh, yeah, joe, good job, uh has signed up already.

00:32:00.332 --> 00:32:04.492
Had a nice little amount of people sign up today and a bunch of new people signed up for the website.

00:32:04.492 --> 00:32:08.314
The new season is upon us almost.

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This is registration.

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New season doesn't kick off until 2-22 of 25.

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We'll be playing Siena Golf Club.

00:32:19.169 --> 00:32:21.876
And yeah, looking for Vegas golfers.

00:32:21.876 --> 00:32:27.967
So I'm I'm putting a lot of uh, uh heat on the guys that are currently playing to reach out.

00:32:27.967 --> 00:32:30.295
Read the word, get the word out.

00:32:30.295 --> 00:32:37.617
Let's get some bigger fields, let's get some bigger payouts and uh, yeah, let's, let's have some fun.

00:32:37.617 --> 00:32:42.758
So if anybody is looking for any information, vegasgolfnetworkcom is the website.

00:32:42.758 --> 00:32:44.530
All the information is on there.

00:32:44.530 --> 00:32:48.393
It's Vegas Golf Network on Instagram.

00:32:48.393 --> 00:32:49.891
You can send me a message on there.

00:32:49.891 --> 00:32:54.289
We post stuff on there frequently and yeah.

00:32:54.289 --> 00:32:57.116
So if you want some information, go check it out.

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$250 for new members, $200 for returning members.

00:33:00.294 --> 00:33:05.724
Looks like our average entry fee this upcoming year is going to be about $125.

00:33:05.724 --> 00:33:14.815
We got a couple pricey ones because of where we're playing and you know dynamic pricing it's affecting everybody, even golf leagues in Vegas.

00:33:14.815 --> 00:33:18.354
But Laughlin Ranch is on the schedule.

00:33:18.354 --> 00:33:19.671
I cannot wait for that one.

00:33:19.671 --> 00:33:21.372
Tpc Vegas is on the schedule.

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That's going to be a major.

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That's going to be amazing.

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Going back to Chimera Highland Falls First time.

00:33:27.048 --> 00:33:29.488
We're going to go back over the hill to Pahrump, to Mountain Falls.

00:33:29.488 --> 00:33:31.368
So a lot going on.

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Got a couple Sunday events also this year, so mixing it up a little bit, hoping to get more people involved.

00:33:41.587 --> 00:33:51.713
So little bit hoping to get uh more people involved so get there, get there, get your ass to the vegas golf network site and come join us get there and you know what?

00:33:51.713 --> 00:33:51.874
I?

00:33:51.874 --> 00:33:54.098
I really don't have much else.

00:33:54.098 --> 00:33:55.749
Um, I do.

00:33:55.749 --> 00:33:57.412
I do want to ask you guys.

00:33:57.412 --> 00:34:04.970
I, my, my daughter, said something in the in the car we were driving home the other day and it just made me laugh out loud.

00:34:04.970 --> 00:34:10.445
Uh, she said, uh, visual pollution she was talking about.

00:34:10.445 --> 00:34:19.512
Uh, some kids in her graphic design class were saying we're working on something and she goes, dad, it was visual pollution and I was like I love that.

00:34:19.672 --> 00:34:20.634
That is hilarious.

00:34:20.634 --> 00:34:24.739
So I was thinking golf, right.

00:34:25.726 --> 00:34:28.317
Yeah, I knew where you're going with this, but yeah, go ahead.

00:34:28.706 --> 00:34:34.838
So I've always said that what's up Darden Darden's in the chat.

00:34:34.838 --> 00:34:36.891
I've always said that Shout out.

00:34:36.931 --> 00:34:42.054
Darden Wolf Creek is visual golf pornography.

00:34:42.054 --> 00:34:46.445
It's not necessarily great golf, but it's visually stunning.

00:34:46.445 --> 00:34:51.054
So what would be visual pollution?

00:34:51.054 --> 00:35:03.275
As far as golf goes, uh, I, I know there's some some courses around town that could fit into this, but I'm curious if there's places that you've played outside of vegas.

00:35:03.275 --> 00:35:09.070
Dan, being originally from the, the socal area, I'm sure you've played a lot of different muni tracks me.

00:35:09.070 --> 00:35:15.092
Basically, if I go somewhere, I'm looking for the best course that I can get on and play, so really don't play a lot of goat tracks.

00:35:15.092 --> 00:35:17.416
Um, I would say that.

00:35:17.416 --> 00:35:19.166
Um, what's that?

00:35:19.226 --> 00:35:35.418
the meadows, the place we played in alabama that is visual pollution um, but I'm curious if, if you guys have any so I well, okay, so I understand where you go.

00:35:35.518 --> 00:35:40.052
I, I know where you're going with this and I think it's um, that's where I'm going.

00:35:40.231 --> 00:35:41.855
I'm done what?

00:35:43.157 --> 00:36:02.016
no, I know, and I think it's also a like, a generational thing, right, because it's like you see this stuff on instagram or youtube and it's like the lab df3 butterhead visual see, I I agree with that.

00:36:02.257 --> 00:36:09.438
Yes, that is yes but mark chiming in visual pollution, bali high and number seven on arroyo red rock.

00:36:09.438 --> 00:36:14.612
Well, numbers number seven on arroyo is now number one.

00:36:15.815 --> 00:36:21.130
They switched that around I think, um, I think it's different, right.

00:36:21.130 --> 00:36:43.139
So, like with the generation, because, like, if I see something from the air, like drone footage, yeah it looks sick, but I'm also able to take in the, you know, sea level aspect of it and appreciate it, and I think people get let down when they're, you know, I don't see it from 100 feet.

00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:49.398
This shit sucks, you know, and I think that's, I think that's just a generational thing.

00:36:49.398 --> 00:36:55.257
Like people expect the best out of everything they see online, which it's not always the case.

00:36:55.257 --> 00:36:55.958
It doesn't.

00:36:55.958 --> 00:36:57.108
It's not like that.

00:36:57.108 --> 00:36:58.110
You know.

00:36:58.110 --> 00:37:00.797
Lower your expectations.

00:37:00.797 --> 00:37:03.726
People's expectations are way too fucking high on everything.

00:37:03.726 --> 00:37:16.068
Number one lower it in that, you know, don't expect the world you're not playing it a golf course from 150 feet in the air, you're not.

00:37:16.068 --> 00:37:17.969
You're, it's just not happening.

00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:23.835
I will say, though, so visual pollution.

00:37:24.936 --> 00:37:40.677
Macklemore 18 is pretty crazy, right, and I expected a lot out of it, and I think it exceeded expectations.

00:37:40.677 --> 00:37:48.516
I think it exceeded expectations, I think it was great, because I didn't let myself take it to 150 feet in the air.

00:37:48.516 --> 00:37:51.514
I played it how I played it.

00:37:51.514 --> 00:37:55.614
I probably dropped my zone 50 feet.

00:37:55.614 --> 00:37:56.476
Those are fine billboards.

00:37:56.476 --> 00:37:58.987
Yeah, those are See.

00:37:58.987 --> 00:37:59.750
Yeah, marcus.

00:38:00.146 --> 00:38:01.552
I'm talking pollution.

00:38:04.885 --> 00:38:05.646
Macklemore 18 is not pollution.

00:38:05.646 --> 00:38:07.592
No, it's not pollution, but I think I think what it is is.

00:38:07.592 --> 00:38:27.577
You see all these drone, all these drone videos from 200 feet and I think in my head, drone like it's like drone pollution, because bird's eye view of a course is different from what you play, and I think it's polluting your head to think that it's better than it is.

00:38:28.708 --> 00:38:30.385
I get that yeah that's.

00:38:30.927 --> 00:38:40.018
That's one of the reasons I take my course photos from the tee box looking out, because that's what you're not.

00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:41.161
150 feet tall.

00:38:41.161 --> 00:38:44.306
No no you're like four, four.

00:38:44.306 --> 00:38:51.657
It's fun to look at them, hey, hey hey, it's a joke, it's a joke, it's a joke four, four.

00:38:51.677 --> 00:38:53.967
He gave me four, four.

00:38:53.967 --> 00:38:55.068
He pretty much.

00:38:55.068 --> 00:38:55.329
Yeah.

00:38:55.329 --> 00:39:02.153
He said you're a little person, you're already he said I'm a quadriplegia, I'm an imp.

00:39:03.545 --> 00:39:12.612
No, but that's why I'm saying it's a generational thing is because all the video content that you can watch nowadays will pollute your mind into thinking it's something it's not.

00:39:14.155 --> 00:39:19.130
Oh, okay, now that you've made sense of it that's not what I was going for.

00:39:19.586 --> 00:39:24.456
Oh, that's what I thought you were going for because you've always been a proponent like drone footage sucks.

00:39:24.456 --> 00:39:26.201
That's not how you know I don't.

00:39:26.402 --> 00:39:27.947
I don't mind drone footage.

00:39:27.947 --> 00:39:35.298
I just don't like drone footage hyping up a golf course, because yeah, because it's polluting, but it's polluting your mind because that's not what you see.

00:39:35.621 --> 00:39:36.844
That's where I thought you were going with it.

00:39:36.865 --> 00:39:48.273
No, no, no, I wanted to know, I want to know like actual pollution, like Dan just chimed in yeah the ditch the ditch can be a visual pollution.

00:39:48.273 --> 00:39:54.175
Dan, you got one that's not deep meaning and and yeah.

00:39:56.766 --> 00:40:04.632
Just right away for me growing up, because I actually played on this golf course a lot with my grandfather and I hated it.

00:40:04.632 --> 00:40:10.934
He loved it, but I'm sure Mark knows Whittier Narrows in Southern California.

00:40:10.934 --> 00:40:21.155
To me that course is visual pollution Always dirt with some grass patches in there.

00:40:21.155 --> 00:40:28.818
Um, always dirt with some grass patches in there, and I just never had good memories or any kind of, you know, good feelings playing that golf course.

00:40:28.818 --> 00:40:38.934
So yeah, for me that's probably up there whittier narrows golfing dad says uh in jacksonville florida Field.

00:40:38.954 --> 00:40:40.536
We'll have to look up that one.

00:40:40.536 --> 00:40:44.920
Me it's like Desert Pines.

00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.554
As much as I appreciate PB's dyes design, that course is.

00:40:50.527 --> 00:40:51.632
Yeah, that course is trash too.

00:40:51.632 --> 00:40:54.623
It's visual pollution, yeah.

00:40:55.505 --> 00:40:56.329
Yeah, I hate that course.

00:40:56.329 --> 00:40:58.210
He said he's never played it.

00:40:58.230 --> 00:41:03.516
Always heard bad things yeah don't even waste your time, bro, don't even waste your gas going to fucking take pictures of that fucking shithole.

00:41:07.005 --> 00:41:07.608
Dude the ditch.

00:41:07.608 --> 00:41:13.396
Not only do you get visual pollution, you get actual pollution, because there's so much trash.

00:41:13.945 --> 00:41:15.257
Dude and noise pollution.

00:41:15.257 --> 00:41:23.784
Noise pollution Police helicopters I will say that I love the course, but there's spots in national.

00:41:23.784 --> 00:41:24.827
I can get that way too.

00:41:24.827 --> 00:41:27.152
Oh, anywhere.

00:41:27.192 --> 00:41:30.639
You're not an eyewear and I, like the river, is any of the holes?

00:41:30.824 --> 00:41:33.472
yeah, any of the holes on that three, or just like what is the?

00:41:33.472 --> 00:41:34.795
Three is your first one.

00:41:34.795 --> 00:41:48.889
Like when you get there, I saw a washer and dryer in there one time you get appliances down here yeah that's oh man yeah see like I take.

00:41:48.989 --> 00:42:02.719
I take such a different stance, right, like because, like I know there's shitty courses out there, like I know that of course there's a lot of fucked up courses out there, that oh yeah, you could you could obviously go play somewhere better.

00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:18.554
But like, and yeah, it's very shitty, yeah, but like I'm, I'm, I'm stoked to just play golf man, so like I'm more, I'm more let down when something.

00:42:18.554 --> 00:42:30.427
This is why I took it there, because if there's somewhere I want to really play because of pictures I've seen and it doesn't live up to my expectations or my hype, that's why it's polluted.

00:42:30.427 --> 00:42:34.135
My visual, the third eye.

00:42:34.556 --> 00:42:35.217
It's third eye.

00:42:37.126 --> 00:42:42.432
I'm always excited to play golf, but yeah, there's bad places out there everywhere, for sure.

00:42:43.376 --> 00:42:44.137
Jeremy, you got one.

00:42:44.137 --> 00:42:45.871
You got a Utah one that we can bash.

00:42:46.545 --> 00:42:51.797
No, I can't think of any that are as bad as the ones that were mentioned.

00:42:51.797 --> 00:42:56.237
But for me the courses aren't the visual pollution, for me it's equipment.

00:42:56.237 --> 00:43:01.056
There's a lot of visual pollution for me on equipment.

00:43:01.056 --> 00:43:20.193
True, there's a lot of visual pollution for me, and equipment like just some stuff you just look at and you're just like what they that past, like that was the best idea they can they could come out with this year, or you know, for me it's just I want simple, small, not shoveling oversize.

00:43:20.193 --> 00:43:22.851
Yeah, that's that's really it.

00:43:22.851 --> 00:43:25.931
For me is equipment, courses, it's whatever.

00:43:26.485 --> 00:43:31.610
So, jeremy, you being, I'm a pretty good putter.

00:43:31.610 --> 00:43:32.333
I'm a damn good putter.

00:43:32.333 --> 00:43:34.487
What?

00:43:34.989 --> 00:43:41.733
would it take for you to even consider moving to a lab putter?

00:43:43.315 --> 00:43:45.518
because hey, they're throwing out money.

00:43:45.518 --> 00:43:53.282
Let's not like, let's not, you know, x-nay them if joe wants to roll a lab, I'm fine with that.

00:43:53.722 --> 00:43:54.103
I wouldn't.

00:43:54.244 --> 00:43:56.429
I would jeremy would never roll.

00:43:56.449 --> 00:44:00.579
But they're throwing money out, joe that they are.

00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.626
Yeah, but I'm not gonna bash on their putter.

00:44:03.626 --> 00:44:08.161
Like the putter is good, it's great, oh, it is good I'm not bashing on it.

00:44:08.282 --> 00:44:09.947
I'm saying to jeremy what would it take?

00:44:09.947 --> 00:44:16.246
Because I know he is a big looks and appearance guy but you're also a damn good putter.

00:44:16.246 --> 00:44:22.076
So I mean I I'm curious at what point would you go?

00:44:22.076 --> 00:44:24.440
I mean, are you making everything?

00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:26.373
Are you averaging 25 putts a round?

00:44:26.373 --> 00:44:28.768
Is there a point to where you would go?

00:44:28.768 --> 00:44:34.920
Okay, it's time to put this in play, because I am just lights out with this thing.

00:44:38.226 --> 00:44:40.592
I don't think I will do it, no matter what.

00:44:40.833 --> 00:44:41.635
No matter what.

00:44:42.184 --> 00:44:43.349
That's the thing, though.

00:44:43.349 --> 00:44:43.751
Do those?

00:44:43.751 --> 00:44:45.327
Those putters are so stable?

00:44:45.327 --> 00:44:47.653
And Hesher, oh, yes, for sure.

00:44:47.653 --> 00:44:48.976
He said I would.

00:44:48.976 --> 00:44:53.391
I would move to a lab putter at the drop of a hat if it wouldn't financially ruin me.

00:44:53.391 --> 00:44:59.764
But it's there, they are so stable, dude.

00:44:59.764 --> 00:45:19.320
Like every time I picked one up in a pro shop or at the golf shop, the store it just it does what it does, like there is something to it, and it's like are you man enough to have some atrocity in your bag that takes up man enough?

00:45:19.985 --> 00:45:20.829
I don't think it's a man.

00:45:20.829 --> 00:45:22.865
Enough thing, I know you didn't.

00:45:22.885 --> 00:45:23.427
I know what you mean.

00:45:23.427 --> 00:45:23.887
Yeah, I'm takes up man.

00:45:23.887 --> 00:45:25.170
Enough, I don't think it's a man enough thing, I know you didn't.

00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:25.771
I know that what you mean.

00:45:25.771 --> 00:45:35.559
Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying man enough, I'm saying like, are you willing to forego the looks of your bag to have more putts drop?

00:45:36.922 --> 00:45:38.664
because I don't want to look at that shit in my bag?

00:45:38.664 --> 00:45:39.585
I really don't.

00:45:39.585 --> 00:45:43.809
But they make great putters and they do what they are supposed to do.

00:45:43.809 --> 00:45:48.733
But I don't want to see that thing hanging out my bag like a fucking tortilla.

00:45:48.733 --> 00:45:49.494
You know what I mean.

00:45:50.856 --> 00:45:52.918
Like a direct TV dish.

00:45:53.498 --> 00:45:57.362
The only way that I would play one of their putters is if they paid me to play it.

00:45:57.362 --> 00:46:02.365
I will never put one of their putters in my bag, even if it's the best putter in the world.

00:46:02.365 --> 00:46:06.295
I will never look at that thing and I don't blame other people for doing it.

00:46:06.295 --> 00:46:07.626
And if it works, not at all.

00:46:08.708 --> 00:46:10.652
No, because it's proven.

00:46:10.652 --> 00:46:15.648
I mean, I I do think it's proven and it's dude.

00:46:15.648 --> 00:46:22.057
Their putters are so stable and they they are, they are really are and they they do work, I feel.

00:46:22.057 --> 00:46:25.128
But I just I don't want to look at it in my bag.

00:46:25.329 --> 00:46:39.081
That's my problem, and maybe that's just ego or like I want to be cool or no it's not because half the battle of picking clubs and no matter if it's the putter, the wedge, the driver, the irons you got to like what you're looking down at exactly.

00:46:39.081 --> 00:46:50.675
There's something about setting up a good, a good golf club that just fits your eye and it gives you a little bit of confidence when you go and look at some of those fucking fucking Starship enterprise putter like that lab.

00:46:51.184 --> 00:46:54.795
Like what the fuck am I really looking at right now.

00:46:54.976 --> 00:47:07.112
You know, and regardless if they work or not, I you know, you still gotta you still gotta have that confidence when you look down at something.

00:47:07.132 --> 00:47:09.077
You gotta like what you look at, that putter's tough to talk, to like to look at.

00:47:09.077 --> 00:47:16.362
So yeah, hesha brings up a good, a good point, like if I was to do a, uh, a lab putter, it would be the link see which one is that steven does the blade at the center shaft blade.

00:47:16.362 --> 00:47:17.666
Yeah, exactly.

00:47:17.806 --> 00:47:21.114
Yeah, that's awful jackson had one and I

00:47:21.516 --> 00:47:25.105
yep, that's trash I have looked I've studied

00:47:25.125 --> 00:47:33.672
that visual pollution I've been told that I may like that putter and I went, I drove to the store to look at that putter and I it was.

00:47:33.913 --> 00:47:44.728
It was not for me no, it looks good, but it's like you're so used to not having a center shafted putter and it's so different from someone that's used to.

00:47:44.728 --> 00:47:52.992
You know if, if I was to do any of them, it would be that one, because I can't look at, like dan said, the starship enterprise.

00:47:52.992 --> 00:48:00.994
You know, like I'm not trying to make a golf starship troopers movie, you.

00:48:01.454 --> 00:48:03.219
Did you see Adam Scott's new variant?

00:48:05.706 --> 00:48:06.670
Even Ricky's rolling it.

00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:07.634
I saw Ricky's rolling it.

00:48:09.873 --> 00:48:16.036
Let's say this If Jordan Spieth puts a lab putter in the bag, I will buy a lab putter.

00:48:17.083 --> 00:48:17.304
Oh man.

00:48:18.469 --> 00:48:23.172
Mark that 48-36 is the time.

00:48:24.025 --> 00:48:25.889
Now I'm actually pulling for Jay, I'm pulling.

00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:27.333
Episode 294.

00:48:27.333 --> 00:48:28.597
I'll try.

00:48:28.864 --> 00:48:31.695
I don't know how long it will last, but I guarantee you.

00:48:32.246 --> 00:48:33.851
Personal message to LabGolf.

00:48:33.851 --> 00:48:36.630
If you could please send Jordan Spieth a letter.

00:48:36.711 --> 00:48:40.505
Yes, please, please do it, man.

00:48:40.505 --> 00:48:41.146
I hope he doesn't.

00:48:41.146 --> 00:48:42.728
We got one in the bag right now.

00:48:42.728 --> 00:48:44.471
I mean it's one for one Like.

00:48:45.032 --> 00:48:50.438
You give one away and you make a sale, so it probably evens out or they probably make money on it.

00:48:50.438 --> 00:48:54.208
You know Jeremy will buy one if you get one in Jordan's bag.

00:48:54.250 --> 00:48:56.836
Wow, wow.

00:48:56.836 --> 00:49:01.969
I mean Ricky's part of the frat boy crew.

00:49:01.969 --> 00:49:05.150
You know I can't really.

00:49:05.150 --> 00:49:07.597
He went away from the jailbird and is rolling that huh.

00:49:07.846 --> 00:49:09.552
Yeah, that's what I saw that today yeah.

00:49:09.965 --> 00:49:26.289
You know, what is crazy is, if you go back and look at when he putted with the Scotty and even the Cobra blade, his putting stroke is so good it's so good, and he, he's just, he's searching now searching what.

00:49:26.509 --> 00:49:29.414
What was the name of that center shaft blade lab makes?

00:49:29.414 --> 00:49:37.577
Link, link, one link one two, something like that so I don't mind the center shaft thing, but the putter.

00:49:37.577 --> 00:49:42.155
It just looks super awkward the way that the shaft position is on all of their putters.

00:49:42.155 --> 00:49:49.670
If it was more symmetrical, which obviously would probably take away from the whole technology, I think I could try one.

00:49:50.106 --> 00:49:53.713
That's also the thing, right, because it's leaned forward.

00:49:53.713 --> 00:49:55.550
You're a damn good putter.

00:49:55.550 --> 00:49:59.010
You're a damn good putter, so you don't have to worry about that.

00:49:59.010 --> 00:50:02.137
Shaft lean like a lot of other players do.

00:50:02.137 --> 00:50:05.554
So you could probably grab that and just throw your little.

00:50:05.594 --> 00:50:06.295
I'm a damn good putter.

00:50:07.105 --> 00:50:12.016
You can throw your little little scotty, uh, pistol grip in there or whatever.

00:50:12.036 --> 00:50:21.932
Yeah, if you play and probably you know probably work now for I'll force it in a blade head cover too because oh geez it's just sticking out, just fucking shred

00:50:23.315 --> 00:50:25.059
yeah, but that's the thing.

00:50:25.059 --> 00:50:33.168
You know, a lot of a lot of people don't like shaffling their putter like you're supposed to, you know, and that that's what it's built for.

00:50:33.168 --> 00:50:43.048
It's it's I mean, not just the stability of them, but, you know, like you throw the link one with a normal little pistol joint, you might be good.

00:50:46.476 --> 00:50:52.175
No, yeah, no, you'll probably hate yourself, but and me?

00:50:52.275 --> 00:50:58.070
being as erratic as you are mentally, I could never putt with one of those.

00:50:58.190 --> 00:51:07.192
Like I said, steven Jackson has had a couple and he was here at the house and I was rolling that link and couldn't do it.

00:51:07.192 --> 00:51:12.757
He's got the new one, the blue DFL 3 or four, I don't even know what they're called you have three.

00:51:13.757 --> 00:51:16.920
Even the mayor of Tinkertown has has things he wouldn't tinker with.

00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:18.983
I would not tinker.

00:51:19.023 --> 00:51:23.487
Bro, he's going to eat his words at some point, so yeah, watch the watch for like three months from now.

00:51:23.487 --> 00:51:36.018
He's going to have fucking one in the bag with one of those that I can guarantee.

00:51:36.018 --> 00:51:36.740
So you can, unless they're paying me.

00:51:36.740 --> 00:51:38.949
You can go to a jailbird, but you can't go to that because I can't look down at a jailbird.

00:51:38.969 --> 00:51:51.021
Jailbird is so visually more appealing than looking down at the df, I think a jailbird would fit in the hole of that lab putter yeah jailbird looks like a black and white cookie.

00:51:51.443 --> 00:51:57.778
You know like it does white, black, white it totally does I, I got.

00:51:58.179 --> 00:52:01.485
I think it is a great putter, the jailbird.

00:52:01.485 --> 00:52:04.574
No, no, no issues with that.

00:52:04.614 --> 00:52:06.418
Well, that's what I'm saying, I, I, I.

00:52:06.418 --> 00:52:11.893
If you can go to that, I feel like it's that's just a stretch to go, oh no it's it.

00:52:12.032 --> 00:52:31.666
It has a plumber's neck, there's offset, uh, there's shaft offset and, and it's not you know center, shafted four inches behind the face with a wacky grip, and no, it's, it's no look for me I'm rolling, I'm rolling with the roars putter.

00:52:32.045 --> 00:52:43.657
Uh, fitter builder clever player podcast came out on friday, uh, and you should go listen to that, but I'm rolling with that forever.

00:52:43.657 --> 00:52:44.798
That's my putter.

00:52:44.798 --> 00:52:48.130
That is uh ingrained in my soul and that's that's my putter.

00:52:48.130 --> 00:52:48.909
You know, until I have to pass it on to theo my son, and that is my putter.

00:52:48.909 --> 00:52:49.670
That is uh ingrained in my soul and that's that's my putter.

00:52:49.670 --> 00:52:53.577
You know, until I have to pass it on to theo my son, and that is my putter.

00:52:53.577 --> 00:53:01.880
Hopefully it doesn't get broken in a delta flight or a southwest flight going to play golf somewhere, and uh, yeah, that's my putter.

00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:04.331
I'm not, I'm not straying away from that.

00:53:04.411 --> 00:53:08.675
So real double stuff with vomit, oh please please, oreo double stuffed.

00:53:08.695 --> 00:53:09.157
Those are good.

00:53:09.157 --> 00:53:10.438
Are you crazy?

00:53:10.518 --> 00:53:12.561
It's Oreo double stuffed Oreo.

00:53:12.561 --> 00:53:14.882
It's like there's cream on top of the Oreo.

00:53:14.882 --> 00:53:17.405
That's the weird thing, cha-choo-cha-choo-cha-choo-cha.

00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:24.059
Have you seen those videos with the guy with the Oreo stacked up?

00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.023
Oh, I have to send you that link.

00:53:28.460 --> 00:53:28.961
It's too funny.

00:53:28.961 --> 00:53:37.260
It's an interesting topic, interesting topic um, so yeah go ahead is the jailbird, is the jailbird?

00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:41.534
visual pollution joe if in my eyes.

00:53:41.534 --> 00:53:46.804
Yes, you know, there there's different areas of life where a lap putter?

00:53:46.971 --> 00:53:47.635
yeah, pollution, visual pollution.

00:53:47.635 --> 00:53:48.177
Um, you're not A lap putter.

00:53:48.197 --> 00:53:50.108
Yeah, visual pollution, visual pollution.

00:53:50.108 --> 00:53:51.552
You're not Mallet.

00:53:51.552 --> 00:53:53.358
Head covers are visual pollution.

00:53:53.358 --> 00:53:56.936
Okay, not just sitting by themselves, but inside your bag.

00:53:56.936 --> 00:53:58.298
They are visual pollution.

00:53:59.061 --> 00:53:59.682
Iron covers.

00:54:00.813 --> 00:54:01.909
Yeah, visual pollution.

00:54:01.909 --> 00:54:11.550
If there's anything that hangs over the edge of your bag, like like a mallet putter, that's visual pollution.

00:54:11.550 --> 00:54:22.693
Yes, um, if you have a, if you have a towel, that is like a trifold thing it's not the okay.

00:54:23.315 --> 00:54:26.358
Yes, I'm glad you said that what did he say?

00:54:26.378 --> 00:54:31.023
say the towels that hang on the ring, oh God.

00:54:31.684 --> 00:54:35.320
Yep, no, they can hang on a ring.

00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:43.112
But if it's a trifold origami situation towel, it's like you break it into threes and they fold over themselves.

00:54:43.735 --> 00:54:47.835
Oh yeah, it's like the towels that hang in the bathroom that you're not allowed to touch.

00:54:47.835 --> 00:54:51.648
Exactly you fold it to go over the mirror the Christmas towels.

00:54:51.648 --> 00:54:54.077
You're going to dirty my towels.

00:54:54.710 --> 00:54:58.356
Exactly, yeah, those are for appearance use only.

00:54:58.769 --> 00:55:00.096
Those don't belong on a golf bag.

00:55:00.096 --> 00:55:01.815
They do not.

00:55:01.815 --> 00:55:05.655
You don't know what's visual pollution.

00:55:05.655 --> 00:55:06.557
Sorry, go ahead.

00:55:07.139 --> 00:55:12.458
Just to say, golfing With Dad said Hell yeah, fitter Builder, don't want to hijack this podcast, but I enjoyed that one.

00:55:12.458 --> 00:55:13.751
Thank you very much.

00:55:13.751 --> 00:55:16.280
New episodes will be coming soon.

00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:22.583
Roars is updating some equipment so it doesn't sound like he's in the Florida Everglades while we talk.

00:55:22.583 --> 00:55:25.550
New episodes are coming soon for that one, so stay tuned.

00:55:25.550 --> 00:55:26.777
All right, jeremy, what were you going to say?

00:55:35.289 --> 00:55:35.510
Real quick.

00:55:35.510 --> 00:55:36.454
I will say I am pro clip towel.

00:55:36.454 --> 00:55:39.463
You can clip your towel, but if I'm broke this towel, I mean I hang mine over my clubs.

00:55:39.463 --> 00:55:40.728
But that you can't trifold, you can't.

00:55:40.748 --> 00:55:48.402
You can't do a trifold clip, but you can yeah, no, I am very particular about the towel situation.

00:55:49.063 --> 00:55:50.976
That's your job, he said he's pro-clip.

00:55:50.976 --> 00:55:54.394
I'm pro-clip.

00:55:54.394 --> 00:55:55.800
If not, I'm loser.

00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:56.731
No.

00:55:56.791 --> 00:55:57.514
I was just.

00:55:57.514 --> 00:55:59.775
There's so many, we could talk about this for hours.

00:55:59.835 --> 00:56:00.717
Oh, I love it Go.

00:56:02.373 --> 00:56:07.934
Let's stop throwing our drivers like reversing the bag and putting our drivers where the wedges should go.

00:56:07.934 --> 00:56:10.041
That drives me insane.

00:56:10.081 --> 00:56:18.963
That drives me absolutely insane wrong bag setup yes, I hate that so much.

00:56:19.204 --> 00:56:27.119
Or when you're like we're fucking nuts when you're carrying your one strap bag backwards.

00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.081
Oh, god, those are hilarious.

00:56:30.081 --> 00:56:32.925
Oh, I saw that.

00:56:32.925 --> 00:56:34.650
I saw that this last weekend.

00:56:35.050 --> 00:56:39.759
Oh, sir go back to your car

00:56:39.798 --> 00:56:55.442
please dude, there was welcome here there was some guys at rio when we were doing the fittings that they um, it was a couple old guys and they were playing and there was a group in front of them getting ready to go out and the old guy was borrowing his friend's clubs.

00:56:55.442 --> 00:56:56.853
That was a set of pxgs.

00:56:56.853 --> 00:57:09.735
And then the guys that were going off in front of them were also playing pxgs and he got back from the range and threw all his clubs in the wrong cart, in the wrong bag, and his buddy goes no, we're over here.

00:57:09.735 --> 00:57:12.192
And he's like, oh and.

00:57:12.192 --> 00:57:18.637
So he looked and he's looking at this bag with, you know, 15 pxg irons in it and he's like which ones are yours?

00:57:18.637 --> 00:57:26.916
Uh, it was hilarious and I, I'm not.

00:57:26.976 --> 00:57:36.706
I don't you all of our listeners, this is just a fun, like we're just like it doesn't even matter, like it doesn't matter at all no, no structure.

00:57:36.847 --> 00:57:37.670
We just kind of blur shit.

00:57:38.271 --> 00:57:45.152
It's all personal, it's, it's like it's it's really personal preference, right, but it's like we're so, not.

00:57:45.152 --> 00:57:50.300
No, I'm not gonna say that, but it's so personal.

00:57:50.300 --> 00:57:52.184
You know, golf is a personal sport.

00:57:52.364 --> 00:58:04.411
Go ahead, dan one more visual pollution thing and I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it fucking does is when those fucking dumb ass people and I'm, if you have it, I'm I'm calling you a dumb ass, I'll call you out.

00:58:04.411 --> 00:58:09.257
I don't care, but they have the fucking nutsack with the two golf balls in it.

00:58:09.257 --> 00:58:12.780
You know what I'm saying.

00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:13.141
Sean.

00:58:13.621 --> 00:58:14.681
Wood has that yeah.

00:58:14.802 --> 00:58:16.364
Sean love you brother.

00:58:16.384 --> 00:58:17.125
You're a great man.

00:58:21.675 --> 00:58:23.786
Hey, but he's got a hidden green sticker on it.

00:58:25.150 --> 00:58:27.199
Sean Wood has a hidden green sticker.

00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:43.612
It's like been peeling for like two years and I'm like man I might have to just make one for you, you know, because it's peeling shout out sean wood a hidden greens nuts, let's get him some different stickers so he can put someplace else.

00:58:43.891 --> 00:58:46.777
Oh, that's it, dude it's my balls.

00:58:47.498 --> 00:58:55.949
It's so funny because sean wood has that and like I gave him stickers like the first time I ever played with him and he put a hidden green sticker and it's still on there.

00:58:56.592 --> 00:59:04.297
It's, I don't know how it's it's like curling there's like one small little strand of adhesive just holding that thing on.

00:59:04.498 --> 00:59:07.632
It's like I want to get off these nuts and it's like it just won't let go curling.

00:59:07.632 --> 00:59:09.396
It's like I want to get off these nuts.

00:59:09.416 --> 00:59:10.981
And it's like it just more like oh.

00:59:10.981 --> 00:59:17.135
It's like curling, yeah, oh, hell oh.

00:59:17.135 --> 00:59:21.554
Oh that is too bad.

00:59:21.554 --> 00:59:32.643
Well, it's good to know that visual pollution can spark a long debate, so we'll have to.

00:59:32.643 --> 00:59:39.644
We may have to come back to visual pollution, and we gotta get sean a new way to clean his balls.

00:59:40.447 --> 00:59:59.242
Yeah, get rid of that sack buddy yeah, I mean, but it's so funny because like we're like, like we're like big time golf nerds like us, for like nerds and we like stay in tune with, like the brands and like Sean is not one of those guys.

00:59:59.242 --> 01:00:02.139
No, sean doesn't know what quiet golf is.

01:00:02.139 --> 01:00:05.900
He doesn't know what a gum tree nature golf is.

01:00:05.900 --> 01:00:10.659
He doesn't know, like Malabon, he doesn't know any of that shit, but he loves golf.

01:00:10.659 --> 01:00:18.815
You know, and it's it's so weird like the intersections of golf, because it's it's so different for so many people.

01:00:18.815 --> 01:00:29.681
But we can connect with all these people that are from different thoughts and different you know areas of culture and enjoy playing golf with them.

01:00:29.681 --> 01:00:49.742
That's what's so fucking cool about golf, because I will never be caught with a nfl, nhl golf bag, mlb golf bag like tito's yeah you won't see me with no michelada modelo golf bag.

01:00:49.981 --> 01:00:51.411
You won't see me with any of that shit.

01:00:51.411 --> 01:01:00.418
But there's people that do that and they love golf as much as we do my buddy, pat and Randy.

01:01:00.969 --> 01:01:02.577
Dallas Cowboy bag.

01:01:02.577 --> 01:01:05.757
Head covers, putter covers, ball markers they're all in.

01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:08.222
Yeah, you like what you like.

01:01:08.510 --> 01:01:09.235
You like what you like.

01:01:09.235 --> 01:01:11.152
Shout out Luke.

01:01:11.193 --> 01:01:13.295
Judge Luke, Judge tune in.

01:01:13.476 --> 01:01:13.797
What up?

01:01:13.797 --> 01:01:14.077
Luke?

01:01:14.791 --> 01:01:17.340
Thanks for giving Joe a shout out on the podcast.

01:01:17.340 --> 01:01:20.378
Yeah, go tune into All For One podcast.

01:01:22.592 --> 01:01:30.496
One last thing that it's not necessarily visual pollution, but it's something that we're talking about.

01:01:30.496 --> 01:01:32.420
Things driving us crazy.

01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:43.916
Um, when you're playing golf and you come up to the next tee box and there's a group waiting to tee off, turn your fucking music down.

01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.054
Yeah, Just just turn your music down.

01:01:47.054 --> 01:01:52.393
You don't know the people that are in front of you, unless it's your friends, and you know and they don't care.

01:01:52.393 --> 01:02:03.731
But if you're golfing with strangers and you roll up on them waiting to tee off, turn the fucking music down or turn it off just for 30 fucking seconds until they're gone.

01:02:03.731 --> 01:02:14.673
That is just so disrespectful that you think that you can roll up on a group and play your fucking warrant.

01:02:14.673 --> 01:02:19.561
1990, fucking hair rock music.

01:02:19.561 --> 01:02:20.764
Nothing against that.

01:02:20.764 --> 01:02:21.244
I love it.

01:02:21.244 --> 01:02:23.273
I was just thinking of an obscure name.

01:02:24.114 --> 01:02:30.827
Just come on, common decency dude darden is darden's texting me a bunch of shit.

01:02:30.827 --> 01:02:35.038
So, like darden, yeah, he sent it to me.

01:02:35.038 --> 01:02:39.911
I'm sorry, darden, I can't like watch and listen, but we need to get darden on soon.

01:02:39.971 --> 01:02:45.831
But go ahead sorry were you talking about the guys that were behind us when we teed off at mitch's?

01:02:45.831 --> 01:02:50.641
Yeah, more than once and I just you know at at one.

01:02:51.324 --> 01:02:52.512
You want to just turn around and go.

01:02:52.512 --> 01:02:56.931
Dude, can you turn the music off for five fucking minutes while we tee off?

01:02:56.931 --> 01:03:03.326
But it's like that's just something you know really good, exactly, yeah it wasn't.

01:03:04.047 --> 01:03:07.275
No, it didn't wasn't it like uh who the fuck was it?

01:03:07.657 --> 01:03:12.550
I was trying to remember that's what I thought of warren off the top of my head, because it was just something obscure that no one should say.

01:03:14.733 --> 01:03:19.844
I want to say it was like uh, uh, um, oh fuck, I can't think of them right now, anyway.

01:03:19.844 --> 01:03:22.309
Next, next.

01:03:23.132 --> 01:03:25.260
Um, yeah, so here, let me, let me share my screen.

01:03:25.260 --> 01:03:26.063
I'll show you guys this.

01:03:26.063 --> 01:03:29.605
This is, this is a rumor that I heard.

01:03:29.605 --> 01:03:45.536
I haven't been out there to know, but somebody was telling me this circus, circus demolished uh, no, no, oh, I have it on a different no, that should come on circus, circus there it is all right um, yeah, so All right.

01:03:45.536 --> 01:03:48.239
Yeah, so this is Arroyo.

01:03:49.981 --> 01:03:59.699
There's the clubhouse, the range or the range of death you know, but yeah, so the par three seventh is now the first hole.

01:03:59.699 --> 01:04:03.157
Oh really, so you end here.

01:04:03.157 --> 01:04:04.536
This is the new 18.

01:04:05.070 --> 01:04:07.697
That is a very stupid hole to end on.

01:04:08.721 --> 01:04:09.875
Yeah, but they didn't.

01:04:09.875 --> 01:04:11.724
People didn't like Stupid hole to end on yeah, but they didn't.

01:04:11.724 --> 01:04:23.373
People didn't like the whole start on yeah, yeah like not going by the clubhouse because 10 is down here and well they've been plagued with fucking routing issues forever.

01:04:23.452 --> 01:04:29.885
I mean it's yep, it's the shittiest routing in Vegas, always has been and probably always will be.

01:04:31.293 --> 01:04:31.916
Shout out Arroyo.

01:04:31.976 --> 01:04:36.438
Oh, here Shout out Arroyo for having a shitty layout.

01:04:36.713 --> 01:04:39.355
And we take the 95 down and there's the.

01:04:40.038 --> 01:04:43.208
That's Arnold Palmer Arroyo is Arnold Palmer.

01:04:44.192 --> 01:04:45.856
He did the public one too.

01:04:46.498 --> 01:04:47.461
He did the private right.

01:04:47.461 --> 01:04:48.612
No, he did both.

01:04:48.612 --> 01:04:53.637
I'm pretty sure, Arnold Palmer, you're king you're king.

01:04:53.777 --> 01:04:56.882
I don't think he did that, I'm pretty sure.

01:04:56.902 --> 01:04:59.114
Yeah, yeah I think I think he chose right.

01:04:59.114 --> 01:05:01.405
I think palmer did do red rocker royal.

01:05:01.405 --> 01:05:05.615
I'm not sure about the private, but I know for sure it's a b.

01:05:05.615 --> 01:05:06.697
Final answer arnold pal.

01:05:07.940 --> 01:05:10.125
He did Angel Park Mountain right.

01:05:11.527 --> 01:05:15.239
Yeah, angel Park is Palmer as well, is it?

01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.315
That's a Palmer complex?

01:05:18.394 --> 01:05:25.255
Yes, Final answer that's annoying man, that's a pet peeve.

01:05:25.255 --> 01:05:29.755
Finishing on a hole like that, that's like a three-wood sand wedge.

01:05:31.139 --> 01:05:33.244
How about starting them in part three that.

01:05:33.284 --> 01:05:34.728
That's horrific for sure.

01:05:35.068 --> 01:05:36.632
But yeah, I don't know if there's any.

01:05:36.632 --> 01:05:39.862
I don't know if there's anywhere else where you start on a part three.

01:05:41.829 --> 01:05:43.673
Yeah, besides part three course, I have no idea.

01:05:43.673 --> 01:05:47.001
I mean, I know you shorty's uh preserve.

01:05:47.021 --> 01:05:53.760
Oh yeah, I mean, I know you finish on a part three, a positive tempo, but you know that's magical yeah.

01:05:55.023 --> 01:05:55.704
I think congressional.

01:05:55.704 --> 01:05:58.579
You finish at a part three or maybe it's up as a congressional, maybe something else.

01:05:58.820 --> 01:06:01.318
No, it was the one in West Virginia.

01:06:01.610 --> 01:06:02.092
East Lake.

01:06:02.331 --> 01:06:04.878
Briar, greenbrier, it wasn't Greenbrier.

01:06:04.938 --> 01:06:06.061
Yeah, also.

01:06:10.949 --> 01:06:11.472
Yeah, greenbrier, yeah also.

01:06:11.472 --> 01:06:11.974
Yeah, something like that.

01:06:11.974 --> 01:06:12.898
Yeah, all right, well, we're gonna.

01:06:12.898 --> 01:06:13.320
We're at an hour six.

01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:13.621
I think we can.

01:06:13.621 --> 01:06:13.922
We can call it.

01:06:13.922 --> 01:06:15.670
Uh, I'll save what I was going to talk about for another day.

01:06:15.670 --> 01:06:21.302
Um, for, I thought we were cooking really oh well, you want to keep going, don't you?

01:06:21.322 --> 01:06:22.150
see what was up in here.

01:06:22.150 --> 01:06:23.255
What are we going to talk about?

01:06:23.918 --> 01:06:26.268
dude, I have a question yeah, there you go.

01:06:26.268 --> 01:06:38.811
Jeremy's got a question all right when you so let's just hypothetically say I'm looking at buying a set of irons online and I look at core issue what does that mean exactly?

01:06:38.811 --> 01:06:41.396
Does that just mean the weight is more accurate?

01:06:41.396 --> 01:06:42.599
But it's not really like.

01:06:42.740 --> 01:06:48.003
Tour van sounds like a builder fitter player podcast is a fitter player podcast.

01:06:48.003 --> 01:06:49.789
That is a fitter builder player.

01:06:49.869 --> 01:06:54.815
Question that we will certainly address, Jeremy, on fitter builder player.

01:06:54.815 --> 01:06:55.818
Perfect.

01:06:56.719 --> 01:07:01.717
Thank you, I think it's just serial numbers and people just fucking use that as a scam to market it for $1,000.

01:07:02.117 --> 01:07:05.096
Yeah, I will say that numbers are pros.

01:07:05.115 --> 01:07:06.239
I'm like oh that's tour issued.

01:07:06.650 --> 01:07:07.655
Let's put another G on that.

01:07:07.655 --> 01:07:11.271
Let me stamp a plus sign on this.

01:07:11.271 --> 01:07:13.074
It's been core tested.

01:07:13.094 --> 01:07:28.594
It's tour ready, yeah, but I you know god, yeah, go, jay, you know those voda irons, the, the bryson irons yeah, there's a set of them on sale for 6 400 right now oh, that's it yeah, those are the ones you're interested in buying.

01:07:28.976 --> 01:07:31.021
No, put it on the Amex Jay.

01:07:34.769 --> 01:07:37.813
No, I was looking at Strixons, but it's like they have four issues I don't know.

01:07:37.813 --> 01:07:38.775
I'm going to have to read about them.

01:07:38.775 --> 01:07:41.318
They're copper limited edition, one of five.

01:07:42.179 --> 01:07:44.704
Ooh Jay, I think you need to get yourself some sevens.

01:07:45.284 --> 01:07:45.585
Yep.

01:07:47.795 --> 01:07:48.398
Or some Heoys Sell sevens.

01:07:48.398 --> 01:07:48.840
Yeah, there's some.

01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:49.643
He always sell the mirrors.

01:07:49.663 --> 01:08:05.213
Sell your time, make payments, darn said yeah, sign up for like a firm or a clarna, to get like a seven thousand dollar set of irons or like some makinos, the makinos are fucking nice too makino looks great we did get a question is the two iron necessary?

01:08:05.735 --> 01:08:06.617
golf height beasts.

01:08:06.617 --> 01:08:08.119
Is a two iron necessary.

01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:22.780
It all depends it depends on what you are or I like I'm qualified for that if you can hit it 245 and hold a green, like the uh fifth hole at uh coyote springs yeah, yeah, I need a club that goes 250.

01:08:22.780 --> 01:08:25.650
Two iron does it yeah, me with a two iron.

01:08:25.650 --> 01:08:28.836
No, absolutely yeah, you need to have you need to have.

01:08:28.855 --> 01:08:32.962
You have to have speed for sure to hit a two iron to make it useful.

01:08:32.962 --> 01:08:33.845
Yeah.

01:08:33.845 --> 01:08:39.054
Otherwise, you know, hitting low bullets all the time isn't going to really unless you're off the tee.

01:08:39.054 --> 01:08:40.118
It's not that helpful.

01:08:40.550 --> 01:08:46.855
If I had a two iron, it would mean that it's in my bag to throw at people that roll up playing music when I'm getting ready to tee off.

01:08:46.855 --> 01:08:47.599
Yeah, I have no business hitting one.

01:08:47.599 --> 01:08:49.948
But there's some people absolutely to throw at people that roll up playing music when I'm getting ready to tee off.

01:08:49.948 --> 01:08:51.256
Yeah, I have no business hitting one.

01:08:51.256 --> 01:08:58.738
But there's some people absolutely like Dan Trey, julian, all those guys that are big hitters that can hit the center of the face consistently.

01:09:00.243 --> 01:09:00.823
I think it's one.

01:09:00.823 --> 01:09:03.899
I think it's one of those things where it's like, you know, it's it's all about.

01:09:05.850 --> 01:09:11.895
It's all about gapling g it's all about gap gaping like 100.

01:09:11.895 --> 01:09:12.979
What do you, what do you need to do?

01:09:12.979 --> 01:09:13.922
This on your depends on your environment too.

01:09:13.922 --> 01:09:14.323
Like, do you hit it?

01:09:14.323 --> 01:09:15.328
Are you playing in the wind?

01:09:15.328 --> 01:09:15.609
Often?

01:09:15.609 --> 01:09:23.453
Like, I carry three iron because we we play in the wind often, especially in the winter time, so I have a three iron.

01:09:23.453 --> 01:09:37.189
Two iron is not necessary for me because probably will hit it like shit anyway, but you know, three iron I can keep low and you know it's it's all personal preference, so two irons are for combating visual pollution.

01:09:41.935 --> 01:09:47.319
It offsets I've got a df3 putter but I've got a 2-iron.

01:09:49.841 --> 01:09:50.721
Yeah, I love it.

01:09:51.563 --> 01:09:52.823
Low bullets are great off the tee.

01:09:52.823 --> 01:09:54.604
Ask Matt how much roll I get off the tee.

01:09:54.604 --> 01:09:56.766
Oh yeah, rob hits the ball 30 feet high.

01:09:56.766 --> 01:10:01.652
I thought I hit a low ball, good lord, but Rob hits a low ball far.

01:10:01.652 --> 01:10:02.333
I just hit a low ball.

01:10:04.260 --> 01:10:06.529
Man, we are getting a lot of comments on Instagram tonight.

01:10:06.529 --> 01:10:07.451
I love it.

01:10:07.570 --> 01:10:08.731
It's the visual pollution.

01:10:08.731 --> 01:10:09.273
Who knew?

01:10:09.273 --> 01:10:12.476
Visual pollution shirts coming soon to Hidden Greens shop.

01:10:12.997 --> 01:10:14.219
Your daughter started something.

01:10:14.519 --> 01:10:20.185
Yeah, caledonian, true Blue were the first two premium courses I played which we can talk about.

01:10:20.185 --> 01:10:22.313
We should probably hold that.

01:10:23.515 --> 01:10:24.859
I have no idea what you just said.

01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:29.592
Yeah, darden has links out there.

01:10:29.592 --> 01:10:33.983
So, um yeah, a lot, a lot of great comments.

01:10:33.983 --> 01:10:37.546
We appreciate everybody, thank you so much for that of course no, I was gonna.

01:10:37.667 --> 01:10:44.542
I was gonna talk about something and it's embarrassing to say this out loud um, so I was.

01:10:44.542 --> 01:10:48.636
I've been working with austin austin nutt, hey, he's from, uh, the.

01:10:48.636 --> 01:10:49.557
Is it evergreen Joe?

01:10:49.557 --> 01:10:50.720
Is that the name of the place up there in?

01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:51.823
Oregon.

01:10:51.823 --> 01:10:53.194
Yes, yeah, tacoma or.

01:10:53.234 --> 01:10:53.655
Washington.

01:10:53.655 --> 01:11:10.385
Um, he, he works out there and I've been working with him for the last five months, uh, trying to refine my swing and we're making a lot of progress, still having some issues with, uh, getting my hands in the right spot, and so we've been working on some things and I have been doing uh.

01:11:10.385 --> 01:11:15.460
If you follow me on my so-called golf life, you will see that I've been working a lot of one handed drills.

01:11:15.460 --> 01:11:19.652
Julian and I at Rio this past week we're doing fittings.

01:11:19.652 --> 01:11:24.471
In between we were working on some stuff and my, my left hand.

01:11:24.471 --> 01:11:31.377
I've realized my left hand is golf retarded, it's just it's dumb, it's golf dumb.

01:11:31.377 --> 01:11:39.046
My right hand is golf smart, but it's so overly aggressive it makes dumb hand do stupid shit.

01:11:39.046 --> 01:11:46.257
Um, so I'm trying to dumb down the right hand and enlighten and enhance and educate the left hand.

01:11:46.257 --> 01:12:00.900
So I'm doing a lot of left hand only swings, one hand on the club, you know, like this, and just one hand, all by myself and just learning to get in the right spots.

01:12:02.289 --> 01:12:22.623
So I stumbled along across a video and this is just scrolling IG and YouTube and I came across someone was talking about overlap versus interlock and I have been an overlap player overlap for my entire golfing life.

01:12:22.623 --> 01:12:30.423
I just I when somebody was showing me the proper way how to grip a club, he played overlapped.

01:12:30.423 --> 01:12:32.136
We had similar-sized hands.

01:12:32.136 --> 01:12:40.640
Everybody says that overlap is for big hands, but it just felt comfortable and that's the only way I've been able to successfully hold on to a club.

01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:42.636
I've tried interlock a few times.

01:12:42.636 --> 01:12:44.154
It hasn't really worked out.

01:12:44.154 --> 01:12:59.337
But my dumb ass, I was interlocking like this right With my hands all the way together, and I was reading this article.

01:12:59.337 --> 01:13:00.921
This guy is talking about the difference of it.

01:13:00.921 --> 01:13:09.480
And he said, with an interlock grip, you know, you're getting more hands, more fingers on the club than an overlap.

01:13:09.480 --> 01:13:14.832
And I was like, no, when you're interlocked, you only have these fingers available.

01:13:15.755 --> 01:13:18.779
So I was interlocking improperly.

01:13:18.779 --> 01:13:28.722
I never realized how, how I was going completely interlocked, not just the fingers in between each other.

01:13:28.722 --> 01:13:36.283
I was like trying to hold water tight lock and uh, that's how I was doing interlock in the past.

01:13:36.283 --> 01:13:39.335
So, uh, I reached out to Austin.

01:13:39.335 --> 01:13:44.912
I said hey, would an interlock grip help me with my left hand strength?

01:13:44.912 --> 01:13:45.895
And and he said can you swing it, you know?

01:13:45.895 --> 01:13:46.376
And I said yeah.

01:13:46.376 --> 01:13:48.764
He said can you swing it, you know?

01:13:48.764 --> 01:13:49.286
And I said yeah.

01:13:49.286 --> 01:13:51.291
He said, yeah, let's give it a try, see what happens.

01:13:52.194 --> 01:14:09.222
Um, so today, uh, I was going through all my drills and my training that with the one hand only, and so then I gripped interlock properly and, uh, I increased my club head speed on my seven iron by almost five miles an hour.

01:14:09.222 --> 01:14:20.273
Yeah, blew me away and I said I sent that message to roars and he wrote back Jesus.

01:14:20.273 --> 01:14:21.694
So it was very interesting.

01:14:21.694 --> 01:14:35.090
The ball contact it's still suspect because I'm still working on a lot of things, but the fact that I was able to add that much swing speed with just that change um is a is a little bit exciting.

01:14:35.090 --> 01:14:45.100
So moral of the story is you can be an old dog and learn something new that you didn't know how to do, that you were doing wrong.

01:14:45.100 --> 01:14:48.114
So don't think you know everything about the game.

01:14:48.114 --> 01:14:55.439
There's small little things that you may find out that can enlighten you in many different ways.

01:14:55.439 --> 01:15:01.738
So that that was something that I I was like holy shit, I can't believe I was doing that wrong.

01:15:01.738 --> 01:15:07.077
And it's as simple as gripping the club uh, golf hypebeast?

01:15:07.158 --> 01:15:13.994
yes, he did, used to hit a major slice oh, back in the day, yeah yeah, I don't hit the slice anymore, but yeah, I used to.

01:15:15.097 --> 01:15:17.623
Oh, major slice, yeah it was.

01:15:17.623 --> 01:15:20.993
It was wicked, but the the grip didn't have a lot to do with that.

01:15:20.993 --> 01:15:28.134
That was more of my over the top with an open club face dan do you interlock or overlap?

01:15:28.694 --> 01:15:30.154
I interlock, do you?

01:15:31.395 --> 01:15:31.737
know what I mean.

01:15:31.737 --> 01:15:32.176
What about you?

01:15:32.997 --> 01:15:34.158
I overlap for sure.

01:15:34.158 --> 01:15:37.220
You overlap, I've had the same actual.

01:15:37.261 --> 01:15:37.902
So, weird.

01:15:38.002 --> 01:15:40.122
I feel like that's so weird Interlock.

01:15:40.804 --> 01:15:41.744
Are you an overlap, Joe?

01:15:42.324 --> 01:15:43.145
No, I'm interlock.

01:15:43.145 --> 01:15:44.667
You're interlock yeah.

01:15:51.590 --> 01:15:52.351
Pinky, pinky, pinky, pinky, wiggly.

01:15:52.351 --> 01:15:54.817
So your webbing, your webbing, put your webbings together to where your webbings are scissoring.

01:15:54.817 --> 01:15:55.618
That's how.

01:15:55.618 --> 01:15:57.783
That's how I was gripping the club now.

01:15:57.869 --> 01:16:08.583
That's how I thought you were supposed to yeah, that's a little too interesting yeah, so it's literally just finger it's just your fingers yeah, you look at tiger woods's fingers.

01:16:09.193 --> 01:16:14.485
His pinkies, where he interlocks, are like tweaked in yeah, they're like, they're like this, like locked.

01:16:14.605 --> 01:16:18.337
Yeah, he just barely it's it's just it's wild.

01:16:18.819 --> 01:16:21.889
Yeah, that's one of those things, bro, you gotta be loose, man loose.

01:16:21.889 --> 01:16:25.414
You gotta be piggly, wiggly with it, but it's loose, it's.

01:16:25.534 --> 01:16:34.581
However you do it, it's a so much more comfortable grip for me and it's so much more stable I never thought that that would happen.

01:16:36.106 --> 01:16:49.296
I don't love the scissoring yes, uh, I guess I'm going to the range tomorrow uh-oh, what time we going I will uh go get on some of that new fresh grass at revere yeah, I.

01:16:49.317 --> 01:16:49.478
Yeah.

01:16:49.478 --> 01:16:59.359
I could probably take a little work from home day tomorrow, so if anybody's interested, oh yeah, the wife has taken a personal day and she never does those.

01:17:00.452 --> 01:17:03.039
So maybe I'll get some range time, but I can't get around it.

01:17:04.791 --> 01:17:07.180
You could play Desert Willow around, though probably maybe.

01:17:07.180 --> 01:17:09.694
Maybe, the Magnine, on on.

01:17:09.734 --> 01:17:10.759
Laxon, we'll see.

01:17:10.759 --> 01:17:23.643
So yeah, that was my epiphany, so we'll see if it translates to anything this is a tanker.

01:17:23.643 --> 01:17:38.224
I'm tinkering with everything right now, man, I have so much video right now and it was fun to hop on the gc quad today and get some numbers and, uh, to see I I, that blew me.

01:17:38.310 --> 01:17:43.541
I was not expecting that at all I was expecting a pretty significant jump in speed.

01:17:43.822 --> 01:17:50.242
Dude that is a lot for for a seven iron I literally love all these comments.

01:17:50.282 --> 01:17:56.435
Coming in, derek asked can you still hit a slice on command?

01:17:56.435 --> 01:17:59.161
Can you do that Me?

01:17:59.161 --> 01:18:00.923
Yeah, you, oh God.

01:18:00.923 --> 01:18:02.045
Yes, absolutely.

01:18:02.045 --> 01:18:05.298
He does it unintentionally sometimes too.

01:18:07.573 --> 01:18:23.153
I haven't hit a slice in a long time like a push fade a push fade, yeah, or a block block cut no my, my nemesis right now is the the snap hook, the low snappy hooky killing pigeons t-shot.

01:18:23.212 --> 01:18:27.457
Yeah, that's yeah, we gotta get.

01:18:27.457 --> 01:18:29.180
Uh, we gotta get Darden on soon.

01:18:29.180 --> 01:18:30.582
We need to get him back on.

01:18:30.582 --> 01:18:32.162
Yeah.

01:18:32.162 --> 01:18:34.926
Darden you let us know on a Tuesday when you're available.

01:18:37.859 --> 01:18:38.121
Let us know.

01:18:38.121 --> 01:18:41.318
And we got to get Patrick Lindsey from Shriners.

01:18:41.318 --> 01:18:42.869
We got to get him back on because Shriners is coming up a couple weeks.

01:18:43.331 --> 01:18:51.430
Yeah, I heard that on the radio today and I was like shit, shriners is like two weeks out radio today and I was like shit.

01:18:51.452 --> 01:18:52.373
Shriners is like two weeks out three.

01:18:52.373 --> 01:18:54.398
I haven't even submitted our our request for media passes, so I need to get on that.

01:18:54.398 --> 01:19:00.439
I've been busy trying to get the bgn set up for next year, so yeah, that's the thing.

01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:09.038
If if you hit a slice, like, play your fucking slice, dude, until you figure it out like slice is probably more consistent than a draw.

01:19:09.038 --> 01:19:14.818
Like if you aim left you hit a slice, I mean play that shit.

01:19:14.818 --> 01:19:16.903
You know that's what I used to do.

01:19:16.903 --> 01:19:21.400
Now, every time I try and slice on purpose, spend the rest.

01:19:21.400 --> 01:19:28.242
Yeah, I know it's, it's a conundrum everybody that slices it wants to draw it.

01:19:28.242 --> 01:19:30.152
Everybody that draws it wants to cut it.

01:19:30.171 --> 01:19:44.881
That's that's I've been researching ever any low ball flight because jeremy even was saying he goes dude, you hit such a low ball out of coyote and and I do, and it's like frustrating and and so you know I go down the low ball flight rabbit hole and it's like the the results come back.

01:19:44.881 --> 01:19:48.859
Shut up, everybody that hits a low ball wants to hit a high ball.

01:19:48.859 --> 01:19:51.234
Everybody that hits a high ball wants to hit a low ball.

01:19:51.234 --> 01:19:52.497
Just play your game.

01:19:52.557 --> 01:19:54.061
And I'm like I'm just gonna play my game.

01:19:54.061 --> 01:20:03.676
100 player game bro that's what I'm hitting right now you're not gonna get anywhere chasing anything you're, you're not.

01:20:03.676 --> 01:20:08.752
You're not getting nowhere chasing, so you know I saw a video of jim purick swing.

01:20:08.811 --> 01:20:13.135
over the last 30 years They've had a video of every year his driver swing.

01:20:13.135 --> 01:20:16.420
The last two years completely different.

01:20:16.420 --> 01:20:18.256
There's no loop in it anymore.

01:20:18.256 --> 01:20:20.396
What, which was so weird?

01:20:21.251 --> 01:20:22.256
Furyk without a loop.

01:20:22.256 --> 01:20:23.930
That's like Matt Wolfe without a loop.

01:20:24.051 --> 01:20:24.994
I'll send it to you guys.

01:20:24.994 --> 01:20:33.079
It was strange had he gotten older, the loop has lessened or he changed his swing, I don't know.

01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:34.122
But interesting.

01:20:35.206 --> 01:20:38.253
I mean that just goes to show like somebody like cooch go to a loop.

01:20:38.253 --> 01:20:46.896
Yeah that'd be pop out there one day with a matt wolf loop yeah, it doesn't matter as long as it's square at impact.

01:20:46.917 --> 01:20:47.618
That's all that matters.

01:20:47.618 --> 01:20:49.079
You can repeat it.

01:20:50.502 --> 01:20:55.972
Pretty much that's what I'm trying to do Repeat, repeat, repeat.

01:20:55.972 --> 01:20:57.435
All right, Joe, we've gone 120.

01:20:57.435 --> 01:21:08.970
That's long enough for this Tuesday evening, this first or second first day of October that it's still 100 fucking degrees outside.

01:21:09.530 --> 01:21:10.954
Yeah, it's still warm out here.

01:21:10.954 --> 01:21:12.298
It was nice to get to new york.

01:21:12.298 --> 01:21:15.498
Shout out luke, tuning in appreciate you everybody.

01:21:15.881 --> 01:21:17.988
So much, so much interaction on ig tonight.

01:21:17.988 --> 01:21:18.409
That's awesome.

01:21:18.590 --> 01:21:20.212
Thanks, guys yeah, I love it.

01:21:20.212 --> 01:21:25.222
Uh, we're here every tuesday 8 30 pm, pacific standard time.

01:21:25.222 --> 01:21:36.962
We'll be here and, uh, obviously listening to your your here and obviously listening to your comments and obviously willing to interact with you because it makes it way funner.

01:21:36.962 --> 01:21:39.396
So thanks, everybody, for tuning in.

01:21:39.396 --> 01:21:43.260
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01:22:16.131 --> 01:22:20.203
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01:22:20.203 --> 01:22:26.155
That's probably very similar to a golf glove you've had, but Wilson does make great stuff.

01:22:26.155 --> 01:22:34.739
So shout out, wilson, we can talk about that next week, cause it's we're already at one 25 until next week.

01:22:34.739 --> 01:22:36.503
Okay, shout out, everybody listening.

01:22:36.503 --> 01:22:44.630
We really appreciate you listening and interacting and we'll see you next week and, uh, later.

01:22:44.630 --> 01:22:46.211
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