E293: Bethpage Black Memories, Coyote Springs Scary Tales, and new TRUE's are excellent!

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What is up everybody?

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welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the chasing daylight podcast, episode 293.

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As we creep ever closer to 300, which we need to, I I'll work on that tomorrow, getting the charts and everything over to you guys so we can start doing the vegas rankings, oh yeah, and have that episode.

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Maybe what we'll do is invite some local golf celebrities on for that episode and kind of give our rundown of the rankings and see where they sit with our views.

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So that is coming.

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We're seven weeks away from that, so stay tuned for that.

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So that being all taken care of how y'all doing, doing, doing great, we're good.

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Yeah, Joe's back from the Northeast.

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Rob is hanging up in Canada, eh hey.

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Joining us tonight from.

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Canada.

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Don't they have french fries and gravy or something like that up there.

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Poutine, bro, poutine.

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Yeah, that's what that is.

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He's a couple old-fashioned deep at the bar right right now, so let's go.

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He said he has another one.

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It may be some uh, some words coming through on the chat this evening bring it, rob, bring it so joe, joe's back in vegas.

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He was gone for a few days.

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Uh, you left, it was nice weather.

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He came back.

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It's blazing hot again.

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So I know, I know, dude, I went outside today.

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I was like what the hell left.

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It was nice weather.

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You came back.

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It's blazing hot again.

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So I know, I know, dude, I went outside today.

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I was like what the hell happened it was nice out there.

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It was a little humid though, but you know, 70 degrees is like sticky.

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Yes, this evening out back though, as the sun was going down, I was out chipping man.

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It was gorgeous, yes, and I will say this the new opus wedges are amazing.

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That 58 degree t-grind is so sick, and I grabbed some chrome tour x balls today.

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I haven't tried the x yet, I've just tried the regular chrome tour, so I'm gonna try it, uh, this weekend at a coyote see what it's like.

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But holy crap, does that golf ball spin?

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whoo company man leaving leave a little burner burners in the uh, the putting green.

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They were ripping back so hard.

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It's like good grief, unbelievable, don't know.

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Hey, still playing the wilsons, though don't get me wrong, I love the wson's right now.

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Uh, I would be playing the chrome tour if I could keep it in the fairway, off the tee, but I can't, so I've literally just been playing like a hodgepodge of golf balls, like I haven't bought golf balls in since.

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Uh, I got some wilson's, which was a while ago, and I'm just like creating a melting pot of different golf balls.

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So, um, I need to go buy some because I'm running low.

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I played the uh cameron, kelly king, collective, uh, max fly x x's out at beth page which were good.

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They were good, uh, they were white, so that was kind of hard.

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But, um, and I also played wilson and I also played, like pro v, one X's I've.

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I just haven't made it to the, to the golf shop for a while.

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I need some.

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Uh, I do need, I need, need some balls.

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Time, Joe.

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So so golf is low on the tank for the golf balls and I have so many golf balls.

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What's the most?

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soul golf ball that you can get.

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Oh yeah, what is it?

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What is the soul golf ball, man?

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Does it even matter?

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Is that?

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Oh, how do you?

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How?

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maybe it doesn't matter.

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Yeah, yeah, maybe whatever you find, whatever you whatever whatever whatever the earth gives you you know, like whatever whatever you, whatever you find, whatever the desert right of 14 at coyote springs gives you yeah, yeah, so would you, uh, would you find.

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When you find a yellow ball in the wild, is it like a moment for you?

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uh, it depends what it is like.

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I uh, I, if it's like a super soft, no, I don't, I throw it, I'll throw it back or give it to someone.

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But, um, I picked up that beth page because I was I felt like I was getting low on balls, because the ball like disappears sometimes, and I picked up a true feel like white ball and I was like held it for like a hole or two and I was like, yeah, I'll be all right, and I just tossed it.

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So, no, there's no true feel in a true field no, I so on.

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On 14 at coyote, uh, I hit my t-shot.

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I thought I had plenty enough to carry actually I know I had enough to carry the little, the little hill.

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Couldn't find my ball anywhere, uh.

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So I'm walking through the desert and there's that one, yucca, that's at the top there, and I found, uh, one of those vibrant yellow, uh, super softs that with the matte, like indiglo, look to it on the opposite side of the t-box in the tree.

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I was like how the hell is that?

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And I was thinking, oh, that had to be a t-shot, a 15.

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Wow, because there's no way that one got there off the tee on 14 unless it hit a rock and bounced backwards.

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But we'll get it.

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We'll get into the diabolical coyote springs golf course shortly.

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But, joe, let's let's hear about beth page.

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Well, it helps if you take your microphone off mute yeah, before we get started, I mean I met, I met so many people, it was so cool.

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Um, just quick shots out to bobby connor, chris dylan, ted, uh, ryan, like I met like a bunch of people, man, and that it's a really fucking cool experience, really cool my favorite thing was your video where you're interviewing the guy and you're like I'm here with uh, what's your name?

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he's talking, yeah, you're saying, and you go and what did you say?

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and he's like I don't know what I say yeah, I mean it was so, it was so funny I thought it was great, I mean, I loved it.

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It was so, so natural yeah.

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So I mean like people have like tvs out there and and grills and cornhole and um, like campers and like beds built into the back of trucks and you know they're locals, you know it's like it's kind of crazy.

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It's hard to even get like a tea time as a local on the the tea time uh website.

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So so who's getting all the tea times?

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I don't know.

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I talked to some people and I think there might be some like fishy thing going on and and also, as a local, you're only able to book beth pay or the black course, like every 28 days if you're, you couldn't go play it every weekend if you wanted to right.

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So you, you get, you get like, you get blocked out until it can refresh.

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So, uh, it's great, it's crazy, man it's.

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It's really, it's really.

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Oh, it's a really wild experience, but, man, it's.

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It's something special in golf that's unlike anywhere else.

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I mean, I don't know anywhere else that you need to camp out other than saint andrews, and I think I think they're doing away with that here soon really from what I heard.

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Um, but yeah, so thankfully, a and shout out to Luke man that that dude is a local.

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He had a lot of history to share with me and um, he, uh, I got connected with him through the all for all for one.

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What's his podcast?

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Let's give him a shout out real quick.

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But, um, he sent me his contact information and, um, he's like this is the guy I got to talk to information.

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And um, he's like this is the guy I got to talk to.

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Um, and super, super nice dude.

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He's like yeah, I'll, I'll get, I'll, I'll go after work and I'll wait for you to do whatever you're doing in the city, or, uh, wait for you to get your car.

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Um, so yeah, it's all for one, uh, golf podcast.

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I'm on Spotify.

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Four as in four.

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But he connected me with him and Luke is a really good dude.

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I got to sit down and chat with him for a long time and he has a bunch of knowledge and history on the game he played with his grandma back in the day and he just started playing a few years ago again.

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But really, really, really, really cool experience and I wish I like it.

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It was almost, it was almost bandonesque like the experience.

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It was kind of like, uh, spiritual and like you know, everybody there loves golf.

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You know, like people are there because they want to play golf.

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So I don't know many other places you can say that for, but I would love to see you guys out there one day and do it.

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I mean, the sleep really sucks.

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Or the lack of the lack of.

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I mean, we flew in on Thursday night.

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We slept like maybe four or five hours.

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Then we went to the city, got some bagels, walked around, picked up the car and then hung out with all these people in the parking lot.

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I slept maybe two hours in the car, woke up at 4.15 to wait for my bakery ticket.

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Whichke told me the whole history of that and also cliff cliff gave me a lot of information before I went to, because he's also done it.

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But really really cool experience.

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Honest question, joe how does beth page compare to bandon?

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Typing this out as joe goes bandon on me I uh, it's, it's hard.

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I mean, when I was talking to luke he because I was telling him how much I love bandon and he's like, this is, this is similar for me and uh, it was up there, it was, it was close.

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I I do think it was pretty close because beth page has the history to it.

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Uh, bandon doesn't necessarily have the history to it.

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I meanannon doesn't necessarily have the history to it.

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I mean, there is history there, but different kind of history, different kind of history, and yeah, it's, it's special man.

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I mean we all know that first hole and it's cool, but that's, that's not, that's not.

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It Like the first hole is cool but that there really isn't anything to that.

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The uh, second hole is great.

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The third hole is great, but to me when you're leaving that third green, it's a par three and uh, it sits atop a hill and then four, if you guys know the crisscross bunkers where they kind of sit like a zigzag, it's crest, the.

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The third hole, par three is like up, and then you walk down towards that hole and it really like it's like the open the curtains moment.

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It's the, it's the ghost tree hill crest, it is the number one at sheep ranch.

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Um, it, it was a moment, I mean it's, I was shit, you know, I've seen pictures of it but I didn't know.

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The third green was so high walk, you know, and it just it really pulls back the curtain.

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And four through nine was probably one of the best stretches of golf holes I've played, like like banger after banger after banger, you know, and it was really fucking cool.

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Adam wants to know what yardage you played from.

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I played the whites so and there was boxes behind the tips, Like there was boxes back, back, back, back.

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I can tell you the rating, Adam, because Joe actually posted his score.

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Yeah, 74.2.

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From the whites, yeah, wow.

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Isn't it one of the?

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highest rated courses in the US.

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I think it's like 7th In the back.

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Yeah, 74.2, 148.

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Yeah, from the middle T's Juju's in a house 74.2, 148.

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Yeah.

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From the middle tees.

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Juju's in a house.

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Wow, so when you get there is the order based on where you park your car.

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Is that how you get in line?

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Yeah, it's really weird, right?

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So you would think that if you're lining up, the first spot would be in like the first parking spot, but it's not.

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It's like halfway down and then there's like an arrow and then it points to the first spot and it's right next to the sign and it's at the back of the parking lot.

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It's not like next to the clubhouse or anything, it's like its own parking lot.

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So everything's numbered.

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And I went to sleep and I probably saw like 50 cars and then by the time I woke up it was lined up all the way to like 88, which was right across from me.

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Oh, wow, it's, uh, it's geez.

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Yeah, I tell you what, man.

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It's a really really cool experience, like so this is your second major venue right, third, third chambers oh, you play chambers.

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That's right, that's right yeah, so where?

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How would it relate to tory and chambers?

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beth page first 100.

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No, no, no, not not not rating just as a major venue playing the golf course?

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How do they compare Um?

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I.

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I would say it's pretty similar to Torrey pines without the ocean views, but I enjoyed Beth page much more than Torrey, like 100%.

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I think it's such a.

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It's a way better course.

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What made you enjoy it?

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more.

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I think it's the, probably the architecture and the character and the woods.

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It doesn't need an ocean, that's the thing.

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Like Tor, I think Tori kind of relies on the ocean at points, but Beth Page does not need an ocean to be magnificent.

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I think it's the, the layout, the architecture, the, you know the like.

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Surprising moments and, um, the greens were like when we played south course, I think the greens were just as good, if not better, than tori was.

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Uh, the rough was way fucking harder to get out of.

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It's way thicker where at beth page.

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It's way, way harder than tori rough like you can lose a ball in it easily.

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You lose a ball.

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If you don't watch your ball the entire time, you'll you might not find it.

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Um, you are only going max, like 120 yard shot out of the rough for me, yeah, but um, I mean, I could only hit an eight iron out of there, like that was the highest club I could hit and it was going 120 one maybe so you're gonna that's.

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That's what's gonna be awesome when the rider cup comes and you see guys in the rough hitting 70 yard shots and holding greens I can't wait because I mean I remember brooks winning out there and like, just like I mean I don't remember it fully, but like I know it, it makes me realize how good these guys are, because it's yeah, it's almost impossible, it's impossible.

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But you know, even like I probably lost like three shots because of balls I couldn't find in the rough they have a gallery, so that's three shots, they know, the course, I probably lost five shots off the tee because I didn't know exactly where to hit to.

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So we could say I shot at 81, but I did not.

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But yeah, it's really really fucking cool.

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So, compared to Chambers, do you think Chambers is a worthy major venue?

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Now that you got three under your belt.

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Yeah, Chambers has a worthy major venue Now that you've got three under your belt.

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Yeah, chambers has amazing views.

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I think it's a different test.

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The greens are pretty cabbagey and broccoli-ish.

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Bethpage greens are a thousand times better than Chambers greens.

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I think they're they're different.

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They're different tests chambers you know chambers, you kind of got to get lucky on some of that, but it's, it's different and that's what's cool about it.

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That's what's cool about it because everybody's playing the same course.

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You know, I mean really, but I think Beth page is probably the best $160 I've ever paid for a golf course.

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No, doubt about it, there we go.

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No doubt about it, and the experience itself is, uh, really cool to walk the hallways and it's, it's a, it's a junkie, it's a junkie clubhouse.

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There's nothing special about it where's all the money?

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Going.

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Yeah, it's ran down, it's.

00:18:46.695 --> 00:18:48.967
You know there's not a lot of like.

00:18:48.967 --> 00:18:53.136
I mean, there's some historical photos in there and some things you could look at.

00:18:53.136 --> 00:18:56.751
I read some of it but like nothing super worthwhile.

00:18:56.751 --> 00:19:00.298
Um, pro Shop is pretty shitty.

00:19:00.298 --> 00:19:03.073
It's big but it's pretty shitty.

00:19:03.073 --> 00:19:03.575
What'd?

00:19:03.595 --> 00:19:03.816
you get.

00:19:04.746 --> 00:19:06.953
They had one XL t-shirt left.

00:19:06.953 --> 00:19:12.614
That was the last XL in any color, long sleeve or short sleeve, so I got that.

00:19:12.614 --> 00:19:20.077
My dad asked for a hat, so I got him a hat and the hat selection was not good Did you go off on your pops about?

00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:21.867
he's never been there so he can't wear it.

00:19:23.051 --> 00:19:23.292
No.

00:19:25.066 --> 00:19:26.440
I think it's okay if it's your dad.

00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:27.406
That's the only person.

00:19:27.969 --> 00:19:32.892
Yeah, he can't play anymore, and plus he handed me money before I went.

00:19:32.892 --> 00:19:36.592
Oh, okay, okay, did you go off on your pops?

00:19:39.746 --> 00:19:41.551
No, dad, no I'm, I get that for you.

00:19:41.551 --> 00:19:42.253
Have you played it?

00:19:42.434 --> 00:19:47.772
no yeah, the pro job is pretty lackluster.

00:19:47.772 --> 00:19:50.657
Um so that kind of sucks.

00:19:50.718 --> 00:19:57.933
The range is very small is there one range for the entire part or is there?

00:19:58.055 --> 00:20:02.807
okay, yeah oh really for all the courses there's one range from what I saw.

00:20:02.807 --> 00:20:08.037
Yes, correct, yeah, wow, I didn't see a chipping green uh anywhere.

00:20:08.137 --> 00:20:14.507
Oh, there has to be one, there's no way, you're not playing a major there without a chipping green they probably use a hole from another.

00:20:14.586 --> 00:20:22.700
yeah, there's, there's two really big putting greens, so I'm assuming one of them is a chipping green for them.

00:20:22.700 --> 00:20:30.332
I had a lot of time to walk around so I walked around the whole clubhouse, which the clubhouse is pretty big.

00:20:30.332 --> 00:20:38.113
But yeah, it really made me want to go play the red course because I've heard the red course is a lot of fun.

00:20:38.113 --> 00:20:50.997
The sand was full and plump and, like real deal, sand lump full and plump yeah lump sand.

00:20:52.398 --> 00:20:55.729
Yeah, man, it was, it was like it was it like?

00:20:55.729 --> 00:21:09.538
I know I've played chambers and tori and you know tori, probably you know tori we get every year, but I think it's so much better than tori pines, like like a lot better than tori pines.

00:21:09.538 --> 00:21:13.897
I think it's such a better course than tori pines, right on it.

00:21:13.897 --> 00:21:19.087
It gives you, it gives you the feels, man, and it's, it's, it's like a 10-mile walk.

00:21:20.931 --> 00:21:22.813
A beefy walk.

00:21:22.952 --> 00:21:25.896
It's a five-hour round, even if you're playing pretty quick.

00:21:25.896 --> 00:21:29.040
Maybe four and a half if you're quick, quick.

00:21:32.565 --> 00:21:32.925
Is that because?

00:21:33.548 --> 00:21:34.509
there's a lot of people playing.

00:21:34.509 --> 00:21:36.957
It's because of the rough, it's because of the hike, tough walk.

00:21:36.957 --> 00:21:39.476
Yeah, there's some stretches out there where it's because of the height.

00:21:39.476 --> 00:21:40.019
Um, yeah, it's there, it's.

00:21:40.019 --> 00:21:42.669
There's some stretches out there where it's it gets kind of tough.

00:21:42.769 --> 00:21:48.787
But man, it's, it's really let's hear the craziest thing you saw, because it's a muni course.

00:21:50.471 --> 00:22:12.778
So I'm sure there was something that you made you go wow like as far as what, like a shot anything, anything I mean, I think the craziest thing I saw was the video I posted of the asian dude when andrew and I were in canada and we stopped and we and we played, uh, a course in halifax.

00:22:13.306 --> 00:22:30.231
The guys that we were joined with were both wearing work boots and jeans and they were yelling us yardages and meters you know distances and meters and it was just, it was wild, because we were like this is really, you know, it's Lynx at Brunello is what it's called.

00:22:30.231 --> 00:22:31.790
It's a really nice course.

00:22:31.790 --> 00:22:44.051
And these guys were out there in like wife beaters and blue jeans and keys hanging off their you know off their pockets, and it was just just, it was like, wow, you're not in, you know america right now.

00:22:44.071 --> 00:22:59.153
So I, I will tell you, uh, like the, the, the grounds crew, like they're working on the course and they do not care if you're hitting, like they do not move out of the way at all, they, they stay, they do what they do.

00:22:59.153 --> 00:23:19.034
I've never seen it before like someone's in the, in the, in the bunker, like next to you hitting, and he's just, he's still cleaning the bunker, like he doesn't care, like it's a massive property and the black course opens later than all the other courses because the maintenance takes so long to uh to do.

00:23:19.034 --> 00:23:32.217
And there was a dude like right in the middle of the fairway, like parked his car there, got out and there's, we're all on the t and he's just doing what he does, he's working he doesn't.

00:23:32.278 --> 00:23:38.451
Yeah, no thought about golf balls hitting it at all like no thought.

00:23:38.853 --> 00:23:44.173
One of the worst experiences I ever had on a golf course was at conestoga with a lawnmower guy.

00:23:44.173 --> 00:24:07.298
I was, uh, it's, it's like 16, yeah, I think it's 16, the long par 5, as you're heading back up the hill and uh, he was in the middle of the fairway and I, I was getting ready to hit a fairway wood, you know know, and he's like 100, maybe 50 yards out in front of me and he stops a lawnmower, gets out and tucks, sits down behind it to like duck.

00:24:07.298 --> 00:24:14.636
It was like thank you, but could you move your giant machine please?

00:24:15.238 --> 00:24:21.476
Yeah, yeah, I will also say that it was really cool like the mixture of people.

00:24:21.476 --> 00:24:38.613
Like there was people that were there from philadelphia that drove up for the night to just play and then drive home, which is like a four-hour drive, and, um, I would say it was a pretty even split of people that have played it before and have camped out before and people that have not.

00:24:38.613 --> 00:24:44.182
Um, yeah, it's, I didn't.

00:24:44.182 --> 00:24:49.898
I like I don't know if it's because I wasn't like expecting as much out of it as I.

00:24:49.898 --> 00:24:53.167
You know, I don't think I hyped myself up too much for it.

00:24:54.170 --> 00:25:10.766
Uh, I knew it, I knew it would be cool, but uh, well, I think you probably, if you would have had a tee time, you might have hyped yourself up a little bit more, but there still was a possibility you might not have been able to play, so I could see myself doing the same thing going.

00:25:10.766 --> 00:25:14.056
I'm not even going to get hyped, just in case something happens.

00:25:15.066 --> 00:25:18.184
Yeah, and I knew I'd probably play the red course at least.

00:25:18.184 --> 00:25:25.616
I mean, there was a ton of red course times, like after I like went and got a bacon, egg and cheese down the street.

00:25:25.616 --> 00:25:28.374
There was still a bunch of red course times.

00:25:28.374 --> 00:25:47.402
But when I talked to Cliff about it and his experience and how he loved it so much and how it's like an experience like I didn't didn't really like take that fully into account, but it really is an immersive, immersive experience like it's.

00:25:47.402 --> 00:26:11.227
It's pretty special like you are spending time in a parking lot with a bunch of golfers that 100 love golf and you get to play a really rad course that has hosted majors and is going to host the Ryder Cup next year and a lot of legends have walked down the same grass and stripes and fairways that you've walked.

00:26:11.227 --> 00:26:20.540
It's really fucking cool and I 100% recommend it and I would love to do it again.

00:26:20.540 --> 00:26:29.756
Like I would 100% do it again no doubt about it in my mind Like we can go tomorrow and I would be happy to do it Sick.

00:26:30.705 --> 00:26:31.851
Well, let's make that happen.

00:26:32.996 --> 00:26:36.108
Yeah, and Hesherak says it's like a pilgrimage and it kind of is.

00:26:38.025 --> 00:26:41.628
And yeah, and it's a Muni course, which is crazy.

00:26:41.628 --> 00:27:13.132
It's a state park and uh, luke gave me the whole rundown and how it's uh, it's called the bread line and it goes back to the uh depression day, the great depression days, and you know you'd stand in a bread line and you'd get a bakery ticket and yeah, it's a lot of historical events and it's uh, it's historical man, and if anybody out there is gonna go play there, I'm I'm happy to uh tell you what you need to do, because there's like some things where it's like where is it?

00:27:13.132 --> 00:27:15.685
Or like what do you do after you get your ticket?

00:27:15.685 --> 00:27:22.229
Because it's people say you gotta rush up to the front and you kind of do you could take your time.

00:27:22.229 --> 00:27:32.128
But like, literally, like I got the ticket, I got in the car and I was like I'm not missing this shit and I was so fucking tired.

00:27:32.128 --> 00:27:35.530
I was so tired Like I'm not missing this, so I'm racing up there.

00:27:35.530 --> 00:27:39.554
And then, like, when I got there, there was like one minute before he called my number.

00:27:40.715 --> 00:28:02.409
So, um, like the dude looked like he puts balsamic glaze on his donuts, like super italian you know um, but his donuts yeah, he's like a you know muzrell on his donuts and balsamic glaze for sure, like super italian dude, like with a gold chain and um.

00:28:02.409 --> 00:28:09.692
But yeah, if you guys ever have any questions, like and you're going up that way, I'm happy to give you, uh, some insight.

00:28:09.692 --> 00:28:12.622
But special, special, special round.

00:28:12.622 --> 00:28:19.096
I wish I could have shared it with you guys, but I was able to share it with some cool dudes from Philadelphia and that was fun.

00:28:19.096 --> 00:28:22.647
So yeah, right on.

00:28:22.647 --> 00:28:25.090
Right so down down to down, to go back.

00:28:25.711 --> 00:28:30.819
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00:29:05.675 --> 00:29:08.144
I'm convinced I need to pay beth page black now before abandon.

00:29:08.144 --> 00:29:17.127
Oh, uh-oh, you're turning people away from the holy land uh, I, they're different, they're so different, you know.

00:29:18.171 --> 00:29:24.173
I mean, bandon, you got to spend days there, beth page, you could spend a night and a day, so knock it out.

00:29:24.173 --> 00:29:29.794
Yeah, if you're in the area, do it like no doubt about it all right.

00:29:29.855 --> 00:29:33.505
So the vgn was out at coyote springs this past weekend.

00:29:33.505 --> 00:29:41.558
Dan just found out that it was going to be a shit show and said fuck it, I am not going uh, he stayed home.

00:29:41.558 --> 00:29:45.491
Uh, jeremy, jeremy was kind enough to show up.

00:29:45.491 --> 00:29:50.248
Uh, joe went to go play some muni track in new york, so we don't talk about that.

00:29:50.248 --> 00:29:54.580
Uh, so jeremy and I can tell you about coyote springs.

00:29:54.580 --> 00:29:56.025
So fire away, boys.

00:29:56.025 --> 00:29:56.987
Let's hear the questions.

00:29:57.468 --> 00:29:58.330
I know you got some.

00:29:58.330 --> 00:30:03.957
I will say I I like I thought about it but the gps wasn't working on my phone.

00:30:03.957 --> 00:30:08.551
But I thought about it like halfway through the round at beth page and I was like, oh, I wonder what's going on.

00:30:08.551 --> 00:30:10.717
And I was like what the fuck is going on?

00:30:10.717 --> 00:30:16.174
Like everyone was like playing, like shit oh it was.

00:30:16.736 --> 00:30:19.961
It was not good, no, so I thought it.

00:30:20.142 --> 00:30:34.506
I thought it was like super windy, like I thought it was like crazy windy or something probably the calmest conditions I've ever played there wow, yeah yeah, for sure there wasn't a ripple in the lakes, on any of the holes, even the waterfall holes.

00:30:34.566 --> 00:30:35.648
The ripples were disappearing.

00:30:35.829 --> 00:30:41.905
It was that calm yeah, it was like mitch's revenge junior, like honestly the pin.

00:30:41.905 --> 00:30:49.320
The pins were four, puttable like almost every hole yeah, there it it was.

00:30:50.824 --> 00:30:55.132
So I was telling dan when he was here picking up his clubs, um, which we can talk about that too.

00:30:55.132 --> 00:31:04.875
Dan, um, the the first hole I I would went through my uh pre-round putting routine and the greens were putting green.

00:31:04.875 --> 00:31:07.525
I thought was very similar to how it was the previous weekend.

00:31:07.525 --> 00:31:10.573
So I'm like, okay, I, I know what was going on.

00:31:10.573 --> 00:31:11.797
They were a little bit slower out there.

00:31:11.797 --> 00:31:17.204
Uh wasn't expecting them to be that much faster, but my god, they were that much faster.

00:31:18.171 --> 00:31:21.086
Uh, get to the first hole and I I left my approach shot short.

00:31:21.086 --> 00:31:39.782
I was on the green, the pin was in the back up top, so I had long uphill putt and uh, yeah, I blew it past 10, 15 feet, almost up to the fringe and back off and uh, so then I had a downhill putt to it and that went 10 feet past and then I whirlpooled that ball in.

00:31:39.782 --> 00:31:41.346
I almost four right in the first hole.

00:31:41.346 --> 00:31:43.371
I was like holy crap.

00:31:43.371 --> 00:31:51.974
And uh, yeah, and that was like a, a precursor for the rest of the round that the pin positions were just ludicrous.

00:31:51.974 --> 00:31:55.826
I mean, hats off to the guys that played well, don't know how the hell they did it.

00:31:55.826 --> 00:31:58.169
Um, I threw up a triple digit.

00:31:58.169 --> 00:32:07.357
I haven't shot 100 in years and, uh, I just I had penalty shots it was.

00:32:07.377 --> 00:32:24.776
It was, yes, it was an epic round you know, you know I fired off 11 rounds in the 70s earlier and then I get out to coyote springs and, hey, I shot an 80 there last week and I was very happy with that, because I don't, I don't like playing the blue tees out there.

00:32:24.776 --> 00:32:36.151
It's 6800 yards, I'm not a big hitter and it just leaves me way too many shots that require a long iron or fairway wood into the green and it's it's not an easy golf course.

00:32:36.151 --> 00:32:45.189
So I uh, uh, you know I was happy that I shot an 80 from the blue tees and then, uh, you know, added 20 strokes to that.

00:32:45.189 --> 00:32:51.311
Uh, but, uh, I mean, I got, I was in trouble off off the tees.

00:32:51.311 --> 00:33:03.450
I was in trouble, actually, I drove the ball really well, drove the ball really well, but I hit two greens which you know you're not, you're not going to win anything hitting two greens.

00:33:03.470 --> 00:33:22.789
I think that's one of those, the one of those things right, like with golf, it's, every course is so different, like even for me playing at the black course, like it's it's hard to adapt, right, because, like the, the greens were so different from the week before you, you know the course right.

00:33:22.789 --> 00:33:32.849
Like you, you know what you need to do, but it takes you five or six holes to adapt, like it took it took me six holes to like, be, like I cannot get to the green out of this.

00:33:32.849 --> 00:33:42.426
You know, and like, with on the greens, like it takes so much time to adapt to the speed, especially if you played it the week before.

00:33:42.426 --> 00:33:52.374
You know, I think and that's credit to the guys that can do it, man, because adapting to course conditions that quickly is a skill set.

00:33:53.276 --> 00:33:56.306
I just I I couldn't get the ball to go anywhere.

00:33:56.306 --> 00:34:05.517
I wanted it to around the green chipping and that's that's like one of my strong suits, especially since I've revamped my chipping and it's been just outstanding.

00:34:05.517 --> 00:34:07.912
Couldn't do nothing with it.

00:34:07.912 --> 00:34:10.690
The pen placements were just wicked.

00:34:10.690 --> 00:34:15.309
I mean it was, it was old school Mitch's revenge wicked.

00:34:15.309 --> 00:34:19.057
Yeah, jeremy, what did you think?

00:34:19.525 --> 00:34:22.373
Cause, dude, I broke 90 and I'm happy about it.

00:34:22.373 --> 00:34:24.969
So I don't know it was.

00:34:24.969 --> 00:34:27.996
It was just rough like I had.

00:34:27.996 --> 00:34:37.215
I had a lot of pars, I had three doubles and a triple and I was like the whole drive home I was like reflecting, like what went wrong and I was like the whole drive home.

00:34:37.215 --> 00:34:42.030
I was like reflecting, like what went wrong and I was like I hit the ball so well.

00:34:42.425 --> 00:34:44.771
Did I have a sheet where I wrote down every shot.

00:34:44.771 --> 00:34:45.494
I was like.

00:34:45.494 --> 00:34:47.554
I was like what the hell happened.

00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:55.657
I was just confused, like the rest of the day was just confused, like should I stop playing golf or should I?

00:34:55.657 --> 00:34:57.105
Maybe I'll just go on golf trips?

00:34:57.105 --> 00:35:09.822
That's my only golf that I'll be doing several, um, but that was the.

00:35:09.822 --> 00:35:11.447
I played my best golf after that.

00:35:11.447 --> 00:35:11.806
That's the.

00:35:11.806 --> 00:35:15.795
That's the most confusing part was my string of pars.

00:35:15.795 --> 00:35:18.460
After that, consumption started.

00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.646
So I don't know rob.

00:35:21.646 --> 00:35:26.396
Rob city felt bad asking me my score in the back nine genius.

00:35:26.476 --> 00:35:29.762
But we've all been there I felt so good rob was.

00:35:30.121 --> 00:35:32.853
Rob was playing really good and I was played.

00:35:32.853 --> 00:35:36.244
I mean like nothing was working, nothing was working.

00:35:36.244 --> 00:35:41.956
I hit a great t shot, horrible approach shot, hit a great chip, four, five, four, put at 16.

00:35:41.956 --> 00:35:48.536
Just I mean, yeah, I was like, I was like done I, everyone that came in was just.

00:35:48.898 --> 00:35:50.722
You could just tell they were just worn out.

00:35:51.789 --> 00:36:00.385
Just I said after like the third hole, I said to Rob I'm like dude, this is a fucking mental struggle to make bogey.

00:36:00.385 --> 00:36:15.657
This is like wow, you're sitting over a two-foot putt that's got 16 degrees of downhill in it and you have no idea what to do.

00:36:15.657 --> 00:36:26.289
I mean, I hit so many putts where I took the club head back maybe three inches, which it was wild absolutely wild.

00:36:26.570 --> 00:36:28.679
I think that's what makes Coyote so great.

00:36:29.070 --> 00:36:29.878
Yeah, totally, if you're on you're putting well you're hitting the ball, well you can score there.

00:36:29.878 --> 00:36:30.230
It was wild absolutely.

00:36:30.157 --> 00:36:38.157
Yeah, I think that's what makes coyote so great is, yeah, totally like if you're on, if you're on, you're putting well, you're hitting the ball well, you can score there like you can make a lot of birdies and you can, you can shoot around par.

00:36:38.157 --> 00:36:39.481
I've done it a few times.

00:36:39.481 --> 00:36:46.061
And then there's times where you it's like you can't find anything and you get bad bounces.

00:36:46.061 --> 00:36:50.260
You, you hit it in the wrong part of the green and you have a a 60-foot putt with 30 feet of break.

00:36:50.260 --> 00:36:53.498
It exploits the weaknesses for that day.

00:36:53.498 --> 00:36:57.757
But that's what makes that course awesome you never know what you're going to get on the way up there.

00:36:58.309 --> 00:37:02.255
Dude, all my iron shots were coming up short and that left me in so much trouble.

00:37:02.255 --> 00:37:15.181
So much trouble Because where the pins were short was not conducive to getting up and down, because you couldn't keep it close and you had to carry so many ridges on long chip shots.

00:37:15.181 --> 00:37:18.400
And if it checked up on you, you're done.

00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:20.838
If it released on you, you were done.

00:37:20.838 --> 00:37:26.742
It was a total clinic to be able to pull off all the shots you needed to.

00:37:26.742 --> 00:37:28.697
So hats off.

00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:38.648
Trey went back-to-back out there as a major champion Greg Knutson got his first major win and first win of the season was him, the weatherman, the weatherman and the weatherman.

00:37:38.648 --> 00:37:43.054
Yep, matty G went back-to-back as a major champion out there, so congrats to him.

00:37:43.054 --> 00:37:45.338
Gave us a lot of love on the air Monday morning.

00:37:45.338 --> 00:37:50.431

E293: Bethpage Black Memories, Coyote Springs Scary Tales, and new TRUE's are excellent!

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