Sept. 18, 2024

E292: Bethpage Planning, VGN at Coyote Springs, and PGA vs LIV Debate

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Ever wondered what it takes to secure a tee time at the legendary Bethpage Black Course or how to navigate the intricacies of golf logistics? We’ve got you covered. This episode kicks off with a vibrant recap of our latest golf outing, including some jaw-dropping shots and surprising wins. Listen as we celebrate Dan's unexpected triumph in the Stableford event and Matt's blazing start with two birdies in his first four holes. KD made an impressive debut at Coyote Springs, and we can’t help but gush about Joe's massive drive and success with the vintage persimmon club.

Planning a round at Bethpage Black is no small feat, but we share all the insider tips and tricks you’ll need to make it happen. We break down the whole process, from lining up in the parking lot to the excitement of securing a spot. Plus, we debate the merits of playing from the farthest tees and discuss backup plans like hitting up Lido Beach Muni. As Ryder Cup fever builds, our anticipation for the event grows, and Joe looks forward to his time there if he gets to play. 

The episode takes an intriguing turn with a heated debate on the PGA Tour and LIV Golf merger, delving into the financial and ethical ramifications. Should LIV players contribute some of their earnings to rejoin the PGA Tour? We share our thoughts on the quality and ratings impact of the LIV player's exit from the PGA. 

Our chat isn’t just serious golf talk; we also share personal stories about golfing in cooler weather, the fun of upcoming events at Coyote Springs, and even the pitfalls of online mental health apps tied to golfing stress. Join us for a blend of useful insights and light-hearted banter – it’s a hole-in-one of an episode!

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Chapters

00:30 - Golf Enthusiasts Chat About Recent Rounds

07:59 - Bethpage Black Tee Time Logistics

17:56 - Bethpage Black Golf Discussion

26:31 - Golf Chat

38:16 - PGA Tour and Live Merger Discussions

50:06 - Golf Course Reviews and Courses Discussions

Transcript
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.

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Roars is a huge supporter of ours and we love the man.

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So that's all with the business side of things.

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How are you guys doing this evening?

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Pretty good.

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Yeah, yeah.

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How's everybody feeling after golf on sunday?

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it's good to get out there and swing again.

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I've been having these two weeks, three week layoffs and uh and dan, you, you won, you won the stableford event so that, oh, you did, I didn't know that awesome yeah I did out of nowhere, out of nowhere shoot.

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Out of nowhere, don't you shoot 77?

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I think 77.

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I had three doubles, a bogey and I think, like a birdie.

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All the rest were pars.

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And then the rest were pars, and I just had three bad holes.

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Wow, I started off on fire.

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I was two under through four.

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I was making everything with the putter four putts through four holes and, uh, dan jinxed the shit out of me.

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Matt's going for a career best round right now.

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I was like oh kiss of death it was really all, it was really all a plan.

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You know, I I saw the start that he got after he was two under.

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Uh, after four I was like two over already.

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I was like, all right, I gotta win this thing.

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I gotta win this thing yep, I gotta pull out all the stops uh, the driver was, I probably had one of my best driving days at coyote spring ever, um.

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And then, uh, on the fifth hole, uh, my approach shot I probably the longest drive I've ever hit on that hole.

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It was weird because I'm like not normally in that position to go for the right side layup, I always just go for the left side layup.

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And so I was torn between what am I going to do and I'm like, oh, let's just, you know, hit seven wood up there and get yourself a nice position to score.

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And topped it, dude I.

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I smashed a few.

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I had 80 yards into number nine, which was pretty.

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Wow, jesus joe, yeah, I was beefy, yeah, it was like 337.

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I mean it was downwind a little bit, but I mean that's, that's a 300 all day yeah that's way on the other side of the bunkers.

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Good lord yeah, I was.

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I was down there, bro, almost to where it dips, like that was.

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Uh, that was a hammer.

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I, I I caught a few of those.

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I was feeling the driver.

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I think I made like a little little change in my swing, thought feel, and uh, it's, it's been working.

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Um, it was cool to play with uh cliff and josh, which I haven't.

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I haven't played with them in a long time.

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Yeah, I didn't think you'd mind that 8 o'clock start with that group.

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No, the only thing I minded about the 8 o'clock start was I had to rush to go get the kids.

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But yeah, I didn't mind playing with them.

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It was good to play with them because it's been a long time.

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I also did pull out the Persimmon a few times and on number 11, the par 5 caught it.

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I caught a good, I cut a good drive.

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But uh, I hit this nasty little cut persimmon on the green and two, uh, barely missed the eagle putt.

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The eagle putt by like a half inch.

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I left it to like two feet and uh, yeah, but that was a nasty little persimmon there is it just, is it like a three wood, or is it a driver?

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it's a three and a half.

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Okay, I feel like I hit it better.

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Yeah it, yeah it's.

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Uh, you know old school days.

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Um, I feel like I hit.

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I hit it better off the deck than I do off the tee, but but yeah, it was a great shot.

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I pulled it out a few times.

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Always fun to play with that.

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Who's got the crying baby?

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Dan, you got somebody over there.

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Yeah, these damn kids, they just won't ever shut up.

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New sound effect for the show.

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New sound effect for the show yeah so KD, who works at Las Vegas Golf Superstore.

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We finally got him on board with the VG sound effect for the show.

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New sound effect for the show.

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Yeah so, uh, kd, uh, who's uh works out of las vegas golf superstore.

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We finally got him on board with the vgn.

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This is his first event.

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He hadn't played coyote springs before.

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Goes out there yesterday just shot a 72 from the tips and 30 mile an hour wind.

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That's all nice so uh diamonds flight just got a little bit beefier competition.

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So that's uh, that's going to make Saturday even better, having some better competition for you guys.

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Um, he liked the course.

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He thought he goes.

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He was expecting it to be a little bit tougher from what people have heard.

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Um, it's just golf, it's just.

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Oh, bgc is in the house on Instagram squid designs too.

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Thank you guys so much for coming on.

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Uh, I had to mute BGC, uh, uh, ig feed, cause I was just getting tired of seeing all these amazing beautiful golf courses that he's at, so stop it.

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It's like dismal river, now sand valley.

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Come on, man give it a break a little bit.

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Mike lives like what two, I don't even know two hours from sand valley, something like that, I think he told us.

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But yeah, yeah just awesome content if you're not first time playing the lido, though.

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So, uh, maybe we should have him on and just talk sand valley.

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Yeah, we have to do that because we're thinking about doing sand valley in 2025.

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So yeah, 45 minutes.

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He's 45 minutes from sand valley oh man, maybe we just crash at his house.

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We'll get a party bus and just there we go, mike, hook it up, we'll get an RV, get us some tea times, take a bunch of dollar tacos back to Mike's house and some spotted cows and call it a day, yeah.

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Speaking of golf destinations Joe, you got a little trip coming up.

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Not golf trip, but golf related.

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Golf adjacent Golf adjacent yep Golf bookmarked because that's the bookmark on the trip for me.

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We'll see.

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I mean you know going to Long.

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Island I am.

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I mean, I ordered a raft.

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I ordered a raft to throw in the car that I rented to sleep in the parking lot at Beth Pays Black.

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Shout out Jared Luke, who I was connected to on Instagram.

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He told me there is 0% chance that you're going to get a tee time booked online, and he was correct.

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But he said he'd help out and when he gets off work, go hold spot and then when I can get there, I can take over.

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So yeah, I think playing as a single is going to be doable at Beth page.

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You know, you obviously can't.

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I haven't camped in a long time, but so does your car have to be in line, or?

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Yeah, so there there's a parking lot area pull a ticket.

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No, there's an area of the parking lot where you line up and I think they're numbered.

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Cliff gave me a big email because cliff did it earlier this year, late last year.

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But there is a spot in the parking lot where you line up and I think they are numbered, and then, when the sun starts coming up, there is uh, it's called the bread line, something like that.

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The starter, or whoever it is, comes by and goes to each spot, gives you a ticket and then you get called by your ticket and then you go up and see what tea times are available and, um, yeah, that's how you get a tea time so so is jared gonna be in a spot and you're just gonna swap cars yeah, so what?

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I think it's luke jared or jared luke, I can't remember um, but he gets off at 5 pm, he said he'll.

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I'm assuming he lives in the area.

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We didn't get too deep into that, but he said when he gets off work he'll go hold a spot for me, whatever that spot is.

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He said he has nothing better to do.

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So thank you to him, because we'll be in new york city, that's true yeah, well, he and I was like dude, like I kind of feel bad, you know, like he's like no, I love sharing the experience with people, even though I can't go play with you.

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I'm excited that you get to go play it, so that's awesome.

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He requested with his boss to have Saturday off so he could play with me, but that's a no go.

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So golfers are cool, man.

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Golfers are really cool golfers are cool, man.

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Golfers are really cool.

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Mark wants to know will you get a chance to play red or one of the others if you can't get?

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on black or is the line only for black?

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So what he told, no, no, it's for any tee time that's available at beth page that day.

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So you you put in line and say say there's no chance for me to play black and there's, there's times available on red, I could pick red.

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So it's like you go in line and you get to pick out of the t times what spot.

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Yeah, and he also told me that like red is like really sought after in the area because it's a lot of fun.

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It's similar to black you get to write a cart.

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Black you have to walk um oh, I didn't know that, yeah, black you have to walk.

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There's no carts on black, but red you do, you can write in the cart.

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So some people prefer red.

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Um, but once you, once you get your spot to the front and you get to the, you know the pro shop or where whatever it is, you can pick the tea time you want, whether that be like 7 am or 3 pm um, dude, they gotta be making money like crazy.

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Oh fuck yeah yeah, but also also what I read is the first hour of opening tea times are reserved for the people that are standing in line.

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So say say, the first tea time available every day is 7am.

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That's the line, people.

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They don't book seven to 8am.

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8am is the first one you can book online as a resident or out of state.

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So those, from what I read, those are what can be gotten if you're standing in line and then they fill in the rest if people drop out and things like that.

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So how much?

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What's the rate you're going to have?

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to pay.

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I looked it up, I think it's 160.

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Shit, that's not bad.

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Yeah and New York residents get to pay 50 or 60 bucks, which is similar to what we saw at Torrey Pines, and it being the year before the Ryder Cup.

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I mean, if I get on there, how cool is the Ryder Cup going to be next year for me?

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it's going to be an absolute ruckus up there in New York for the Ryder Cup oh my god ooh, maidstone.

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Yeah, mike said he has a as a connected maidstone.

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So I think I think if beth page doesn't work out, I might be screwed, because I'm gonna have a lot of time to like figure out what to do, find somewhere else to go.

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I'd have to have something already ready.

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Uh, backup, yeah I.

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If that doesn't work out, I might head down to lido beach muni because there's still one hole left of the original lido out there and I don't know what the t times look like.

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I don't know how packed it gets, but I think that'd be cool to play like one hole of the original lido out at lido beach muni.

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But I am optimistic.

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I think I will get out as a single as a single.

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I mean it shouldn't be too difficult you've got the like some of the best luck I know.

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So yeah I get.

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I get grease about it I'm from vegas man, I could grease some palms.

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I could throw a little long hot in the hand and be like what the fuck is this shit?

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Get the fuck out of here you know, split a little long hot, throw 20 in there.

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Hey, make this with your sausage and pevas, lady, you know, hey, take it easy, all right.

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So are you gonna?

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you're.

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You clearly want to play the black right.

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That's what you want to play, of course, yeah, so are you?

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are you going to plan on playing it tipped out?

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Are you gonna as far back as I don't know how far to let you go back and play?

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But are you gonna try that experience or are you just gonna just play the course and try to enjoy yourself?

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uh, it doesn't really matter to me.

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I for me, I'm a go with the flow type dude.

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So if I get paired with dudes that are sticks and they're playing the back, I'll play the back.

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If they're playing one up, I'll play that.

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If they're playing the back, I'll play the back.

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If they're playing one up, I'll play that.

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If they're playing one up, one up, I'll probably play one behind them.

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You get stuck with three 70-year-old guys.

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That they're playing the reds, playing the reds, yeah.

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Playing the up front of the reds, yeah.

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Now, I mean we play 3,000 yards.

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So If people in my group are playing the backs, I'll play them, but I'm not going further than one up.

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I'm just curious if you wanted to play a specific tee box.

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No, there might be some holes where I would.

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If it's a par 3, from up it's like 100 yards, like I'll play them.

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I'll play the back if it's like 180, you know, yeah, I mean it's best pitch black.

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You gotta, you gotta.

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It's an extremely difficult golf course, you gotta, you gotta go all the way back as far as you can, man.

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So we'll see, and that's you know, that's that we'll see.

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I mean I don't really care what I shoot out there, like obviously it is what it is.

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It's more about the experience for me you don't care what you shoot anywhere.

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Yeah, I mean if, if it's a par four, that's 550, like I probably shouldn't play the back because it's going to be a par five.

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But uh, you know it is what it is yeah, exactly like.

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Maybe I'll do that.

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You're hitting 370 yard drives at coyote springs.

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You can handle it 475 yeah, we'll see I.

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I'm just excited to get out there experience it.

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Uh, you know tigers on there.

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There's been pga.

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You know, one of the first majors I watched, I think, was when brooks won out there.

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So maybe I have to pack up the uh pga championship beth page, black air for air max ones and take them out there.

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But probably won't do that.

00:15:35.567 --> 00:15:37.995
But, um, yeah, it's been.

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Uh, it's historic and I'm excited to get out there and do it before the riderder cup, cause New York fans are awesome.

00:15:44.070 --> 00:15:47.985
I think next year's Ryder cup is going to be sick, so it'll be cool to check off before then.

00:15:49.250 --> 00:15:50.605
What, what else?

00:15:50.605 --> 00:15:53.149
What other plans you have for for New York?

00:15:53.149 --> 00:15:55.044
You guys got anything else you're doing?

00:15:55.567 --> 00:15:56.490
Not really, I mean.

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So we're going to go into the city on Friday and when we were there, I think we were there in like 2016.

00:16:02.868 --> 00:16:05.734
I was more into like clothes back then.

00:16:05.734 --> 00:16:08.500
Now it's like I just wear golf polos and golf t-shirts.

00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:12.672
So you know, I don't know.

00:16:12.672 --> 00:16:19.008
Everything in New York that I found and that Katie's found is all about food and you can't eat all day.

00:16:19.008 --> 00:16:21.027
But I don't know.

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We're going to go into the city on Friday.

00:16:22.606 --> 00:16:28.729
Katie's already been to the 9-11 memorial have you been to rockef?

00:16:28.970 --> 00:16:30.537
no, I haven't, but she doesn't want to go again.

00:16:30.537 --> 00:16:31.721
She's been like three times.

00:16:31.721 --> 00:16:38.683
Oh so we've been to rockefeller center, we've been to central bar, you know like, yeah, we've done a lot of it.

00:16:38.803 --> 00:16:47.715
So go to the canada goo store my go go see what a 275 bean looks like I don't need to do that.

00:16:47.715 --> 00:16:55.331
Let's ride on fifth avenue it's in the popular area where a lot of stores are, so uh, yeah, we'll see, I don't know.

00:16:55.371 --> 00:16:57.043
We're with new york.

00:16:57.043 --> 00:17:04.892
It's like you have to jump all over the place, right, because everything's, it's a, it's huge, it's mecca, it's a metro, uh, metro, metro.

00:17:04.892 --> 00:17:15.003
You know, it's like I want to find an area whether it be like lower east side or hell's kitchen where there's a few things we want to do and we could stay there and then we can jump.

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I don't want to go up down over here, blah, blah, blah, because where we're staying is an hour and a half train ride from, oh yeah, patient.

00:17:22.307 --> 00:17:26.461
So it's like it's gonna be a long day and then we gotta go.

00:17:26.461 --> 00:17:33.442
I gotta go sleep in a car, in a parking lot, so how far is beth page from where you're staying 10 minutes?

00:17:34.324 --> 00:17:49.971
oh shit, that's, yeah, we're like right there, and then, uh, I I booked on toro, uh honda crv, so I'll feel very comfortable with that um, and that's like 10 minutes you already get your raft planned out, how it's going to lay on the seat.

00:17:50.092 --> 00:17:50.634
I have.

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I ordered the raft on Amazon.

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It's here.

00:17:52.760 --> 00:17:55.945
So, um, yeah, and I?

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I decided I'm going to bring my clubs because, oh, I have to right, you have to have to.

00:18:03.826 --> 00:18:06.493
Yeah, I don't have to have to.

00:18:06.493 --> 00:18:12.059
Yeah, I don't want to deal with the aftermath carrying around the city before we jump on our flight home, but I have to, I got to do it.

00:18:12.059 --> 00:18:16.191
I don't want to play Bethpage with some stealth irons, you know.

00:18:17.161 --> 00:18:18.827
Did you look and see what their rental sets are?

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They're tailor-made, so I'm assuming they're stealth.

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Yeah, probably.

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And they're like a spider putter.

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I'm like oh, I hate this mallet cover my bad you know, and and then you gotta walk with it you know, just hand him the cover, you can keep the cover, I'll well I saw a comment where, uh, the golf shop told him don't lose this cover and he ended up losing the cover.

00:18:43.748 --> 00:18:54.022
So maybe they're, maybe they're magnets, art as uh quality, but they charge them 60 bucks because he lost the cover oh my god, I just take the putter cover off and put it in the bag.

00:18:54.263 --> 00:18:56.869
Yeah, exactly.

00:18:56.910 --> 00:19:01.686
Take all the head covers off, throw them in the bag, I mean, but I also don't want to.

00:19:01.686 --> 00:19:13.267
I don't want to play a major championship course, a Ryder Cup course, with rental clubs, yeah you need your own weapons, for sure, yeah.

00:19:13.267 --> 00:19:15.892
Interesting.

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Yeah, it'll be fun.

00:19:17.213 --> 00:19:18.685
I'm looking forward to bagels.

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Jesse Bonner said my 6.7 index is a 16 from the black tee.

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So that's a no for me.

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Jeez, yeah, hard golf course.

00:19:30.003 --> 00:19:30.526
Yeah, hard golf course.

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Hard golf course.

00:19:31.428 --> 00:19:36.746
Yeah, yeah, I get you some bagels, joe's pizza bagels there's so many good bagel joints, pizza that's a, that's the thing out there.

00:19:36.786 --> 00:19:37.989
It's like I can.

00:19:37.989 --> 00:19:39.071
There's so much good food.

00:19:39.071 --> 00:19:43.848
You know we can't eat all the time.

00:19:43.848 --> 00:19:46.532
You know, I'll send you something cool to do.

00:19:46.553 --> 00:19:51.333
I'll send you the name of the place that I thought had the best pizza so you need to get.

00:19:52.798 --> 00:20:01.784
You need to get yourself a new york bean and cheese burrito I did I yeah, I don't, I don't really probably reading the black beans they're reading the dogs.

00:20:01.963 --> 00:20:04.249
They're eating the dogs, it they're eating the dogs.

00:20:04.288 --> 00:20:08.167
It would probably be black beans and rice pilaf or some shit.

00:20:08.167 --> 00:20:10.788
It's heavily Cuban and Dominican influence.

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I don't think I need to hunt out Mexican food out there.

00:20:15.564 --> 00:20:18.211
I think we're better off here For sure.

00:20:22.186 --> 00:20:23.991
Generally, the closer to Mexico, the better.

00:20:29.059 --> 00:20:33.780
Generally, I have been watching youtube videos and there is uh, there's a couple spots that look intriguing, but I don't.

00:20:33.780 --> 00:20:40.683
I don't need tacos or mexican while we're out there, unless I'm like really fiending and shaking my hand starts doing this.

00:20:40.743 --> 00:20:56.546
Need a taco or something, but well, if you see a hat that has the warning sign while you're at beth page, oh you, you know the hats I like, so are you pulling a?

00:20:56.586 --> 00:20:56.926
plumber.

00:20:56.946 --> 00:21:08.203
You're pulling a plumber on me no, I'm just saying if you see one, you know, hook a brother up take a picture for you, or yeah exactly you're pulling up, you're pulling a plumber no, I'm not sure.

00:21:08.203 --> 00:21:13.221
I'm not asking you to go exotic, I'm, I'm hey, if you see this, grab it for me.

00:21:13.221 --> 00:21:18.553
Go exotic, because you've been there no, I, but I still love the sign.

00:21:18.553 --> 00:21:19.780
It's one of my favorite signs.

00:21:19.780 --> 00:21:23.207
It's okay, all right I.

00:21:23.227 --> 00:21:27.934
this could bring us into a whole different topic, like do you wear stuff from courses that you've never played?

00:21:27.934 --> 00:21:31.307
Well, I do it's are you that kind of person?

00:21:31.700 --> 00:21:32.363
Yeah, I wear.

00:21:32.363 --> 00:21:33.768
I wear a master's hat.

00:21:34.382 --> 00:21:35.125
I've never masters.

00:21:35.125 --> 00:21:36.866
It's different Masters is excluded.

00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:43.942
How far away are we talking, beth Page, from you know one of it's one of the most iconic courses in the world.

00:21:43.942 --> 00:21:45.186
I'm not wearing a polo.

00:21:45.186 --> 00:21:54.013
I'm not wanting a scorecard, it's a hat but joe's a firm believer, you know oh, I I no

00:21:54.034 --> 00:22:01.182
swag if you haven't played it uh has your hack said only if it's vintage I I can get down with.

00:22:01.182 --> 00:22:22.448
Only if it's vintage I I can see that vintage qualifies as vintage yeah I think he's saying that if, if you buy something from a course you've never been to, if it's vintage, like it's okay, yeah, I'm not asking you to grab me a, you know, long island muni.

00:22:23.890 --> 00:22:31.560
No, yeah, no yeah well, so if I get that for you and they have it, are you only going to wear it when they play Bethpage Black?

00:22:31.560 --> 00:22:37.232
Are you going to like, walk into Albertson's wearing it and then some dude comes up be like, oh, you played Bethpage Black.

00:22:37.232 --> 00:22:37.914
What are you going to say?

00:22:38.517 --> 00:22:40.308
Yeah, I shot 76 from the back.

00:22:40.308 --> 00:22:41.231
Tees, motherfucker.

00:22:41.491 --> 00:22:42.233
So you're going to lie?

00:22:42.233 --> 00:22:46.708
No, no, I would say no, you no, my buddy went there.

00:22:46.708 --> 00:22:47.469
He got it for me.

00:22:47.868 --> 00:22:52.993
But how many times have you interacted with somebody wearing a golf hat from someplace that you're like, oh shit, you've been there.

00:22:53.334 --> 00:22:54.315
A couple times yeah.

00:22:54.335 --> 00:22:54.976
A couple times.

00:22:54.976 --> 00:23:00.961
Yeah See, I'm not that outgoing to strangers.

00:23:03.596 --> 00:23:12.236
I'll be like cool, yeah, I don't know, if I see it, I'll get it for you If that's something you would like to like in your closet.

00:23:12.636 --> 00:23:14.138
Like I said, it's very specific.

00:23:14.138 --> 00:23:18.313
If it's there, I'll get it for you, just the patch, sign it.

00:23:18.313 --> 00:23:20.913
I doubt they have it, but in case.

00:23:21.384 --> 00:23:23.452
I'm going to walk in and it's going to be the first thing I see.

00:23:23.452 --> 00:23:24.087
First thing.

00:23:24.127 --> 00:23:32.808
You see, they're just going to have a whole corner, a whole corner, a whole corner of the sign stuff.

00:23:32.808 --> 00:23:37.836
Yeah, shirts hats scorebook covers ball markers uh too funny.

00:23:38.636 --> 00:23:39.578
That's your hack, said.

00:23:39.578 --> 00:23:40.539
I'm an 18.1.

00:23:40.539 --> 00:23:44.390
For my local back at beth, page black, he's a 31.

00:23:44.390 --> 00:23:50.199
Good lord, yeah, good Lord.

00:23:50.199 --> 00:23:51.201
Yeah, I guess it's hard.

00:23:51.201 --> 00:23:58.336
I mean, well, cliff said that when he played it he didn't think it was that hard and Cliff is probably like at 18, 17.

00:23:58.336 --> 00:24:00.009
I don't know what he's at right now.

00:24:00.009 --> 00:24:04.994
Last I checked that's where he was, but he said he didn't think it was that hard.

00:24:06.608 --> 00:24:11.083
So, I don't know, let's see.

00:24:11.083 --> 00:24:17.269
Well, they only have I guess it's the blue teas.

00:24:17.269 --> 00:24:18.151
So I'm at my 3.

00:24:18.151 --> 00:24:19.452
7 is a 12 there.

00:24:19.452 --> 00:24:25.099
Oh yeah, it's 77.5 and 155.

00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:29.192
So I wonder what really makes it that hard.

00:24:29.192 --> 00:24:31.478
Is it the length, or is it the greens?

00:24:32.967 --> 00:24:34.951
Maybe there's another tee box that they don't have on here.

00:24:35.374 --> 00:24:36.696
I don't know there could be.

00:24:36.805 --> 00:24:44.213
There's probably tournament tees out there, I know it's narrow and the rough is thick and the greens are small.

00:24:45.836 --> 00:24:55.066
Yeah, I scrounged around, you bet I'm wearing it I think, uh, I think the walk itself is like 10 miles.

00:24:55.066 --> 00:24:58.573
It's pretty beefy that's a.

00:24:58.712 --> 00:24:59.575
That's a beefy walk.

00:24:59.575 --> 00:25:07.940
Yeah, that's a beefy walk, all right, that's enough of joe in new york, joe, joe in new york, joe in new york.

00:25:07.940 --> 00:25:09.644
I'm sure, uh, you know a dollar New York, joe in New York.

00:25:09.644 --> 00:25:09.984
Joe in New York.

00:25:11.630 --> 00:25:12.112
For a dollar.

00:25:12.605 --> 00:25:19.970
If you're not following Hidden Greens on IG, make sure you are, because you know Joe's going to have some Long.

00:25:19.970 --> 00:25:23.248
Island bagel pictures, long Island, bagel talks.

00:25:25.513 --> 00:25:26.476
Bagel bounces.

00:25:26.997 --> 00:25:27.739
Bagel bounces.

00:25:38.444 --> 00:25:40.528
Alright, so we have a a vgn event coming up this weekend out at coyote springs.

00:25:40.528 --> 00:25:42.413
Uh, maddie g was kind enough to uh finally come back to work for us.

00:25:42.413 --> 00:25:44.698
He's had like four weeks off, uh.

00:25:44.698 --> 00:25:48.473
So let's hear what he's got to say about this weekend's forecast.

00:25:49.395 --> 00:25:50.017
What's up everybody?

00:25:50.017 --> 00:25:54.757
Fox 5 meteorologist Matt Gontar back again with another forecast for the Vegas Golf Network.

00:25:54.757 --> 00:25:59.916
We have our VGN Championship at Coyote Springs this upcoming Saturday, the 21st.

00:25:59.916 --> 00:26:03.355
The tee times will start at 9 am, but make sure to check your time.

00:26:03.355 --> 00:26:12.192
Weather-wise cooperating Sunny skies, 90 degrees as we get into the 2 and 3 o'clock hour, but of course, course, if you're teeing off at 9 am, temperature is probably in the 70s.

00:26:12.192 --> 00:26:14.286
At that point should be a great forecast.

00:26:14.286 --> 00:26:18.415
Occasional gusts around 15 to 20, but overall a beautiful day for some golf.

00:26:18.696 --> 00:26:29.573
See you out there it's gonna be freaking night how about this morning good lord, beautiful, beautiful this morning 55 degrees in my backyard this morning.

00:26:29.653 --> 00:26:30.926
It was amazing.

00:26:30.926 --> 00:26:37.278
I finally was outside putting and not sweating I've been telling theo all year.

00:26:37.439 --> 00:26:38.026
I'm like you gotta.

00:26:38.026 --> 00:26:39.990
He's been wanting to go play golf.

00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:41.194
I'm like you have to wait for fall.

00:26:41.194 --> 00:26:42.306
You have to wait for fall.

00:26:42.306 --> 00:26:48.170
And he's been coming out to walk cinco with me in the mornings and he's like, oh, it's getting cold, it's almost fall.

00:26:48.170 --> 00:26:49.454
He's like super stoked, it's getting cold.

00:26:49.474 --> 00:26:49.875
It's almost fall.

00:26:49.875 --> 00:26:50.498
He's like super stoked.

00:26:51.461 --> 00:26:55.090
I'm like, well, yeah, let's see we have to drop your sister off somewhere.

00:26:55.090 --> 00:26:59.993
But uh, yeah, got to take the O out soon, Cause it's getting nice.

00:27:00.425 --> 00:27:02.574
You need to get one of them stroller cart bags.

00:27:06.227 --> 00:27:12.258
Yeah, yeah, I've thought about it, but gotta take him out soon, so we'll do.

00:27:12.337 --> 00:27:18.835
We'll do a 40th birthday collective for you and and, uh, get you a stroller golf cart bag.

00:27:19.817 --> 00:27:24.891
No, waste the money, don't do it does theo have like his own little set of clubs?

00:27:25.912 --> 00:27:26.333
yeah, he's.

00:27:26.333 --> 00:27:30.839
He's got like a hodgepodge mix match of uh, he's got like a five wood.

00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:46.050
I bought him, um, he has a, he has a putter, uh, he has a seven iron, I think that's it five wood, seven iron and putter, that are like the junior golf association clubs, whatever.

00:27:46.050 --> 00:27:47.573
Yeah, okay.

00:27:47.573 --> 00:27:59.017
But yeah, he's at school, like you know, show and tells on monday and he brought his little pitching um net thing to show and tell.

00:27:59.017 --> 00:28:00.981
That's awesome.

00:28:00.981 --> 00:28:02.465
There's a little video he's.

00:28:02.465 --> 00:28:04.090
They're like what are the numbers for?

00:28:04.090 --> 00:28:06.907
He's like well, that's the point you get if you hit it there, you know.

00:28:06.907 --> 00:28:14.191
So it was pretty funny, he was upset Was he upset about his broken driver.

00:28:14.211 --> 00:28:15.755
Yeah, I was able to snap it back in.

00:28:15.755 --> 00:28:20.287
I snapped it back in.

00:28:20.287 --> 00:28:21.989
But yeah, those are his travel clubs.

00:28:21.989 --> 00:28:24.230
Those stay in the trunk of the car.

00:28:24.230 --> 00:28:29.295
So wherever we go, we have clubs on hand in case he needs them.

00:28:29.836 --> 00:28:30.896
In case of emergency.

00:28:30.936 --> 00:28:32.077
That's right.

00:28:32.518 --> 00:28:33.519
Yeah.

00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.661
So Coyote Springs again.

00:28:35.661 --> 00:28:36.662
We're going to be out there.

00:28:36.662 --> 00:28:50.936
Well, dan Jeremy and I will be out there three weeks in a row, because we have the V-Gene event this weekend and then next weekend is Mitch's Revenge, which they told us they have 104 to 108 people already signed up for that.

00:28:51.685 --> 00:28:52.770
So, that's going to be a blast.

00:28:52.770 --> 00:28:57.136
Weather is looking fantastic, as Matty said, for this weekend.

00:28:57.136 --> 00:28:59.733
We've got 68 guys in the field.

00:28:59.733 --> 00:29:04.875
A lot of people just wanted to play but couldn't make it work.

00:29:04.875 --> 00:29:09.994
So, hey, it happens, fell four shy of 72 72, but 68 is good.

00:29:09.994 --> 00:29:17.791
We've got, uh, 15 guys in the diamonds, 21 in the spades, 23 in the hearts and nine in the clubs.

00:29:17.791 --> 00:29:22.160
So good, uh, assortment of players.

00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.545
It's gonna be.

00:29:22.545 --> 00:29:23.527
It's gonna be a fun.

00:29:23.527 --> 00:29:24.669
It's gonna be a fun day.

00:29:24.669 --> 00:29:38.777
And I tell you c Coyote Springs was in pretty good shape, you know, for as hot as it's been, I think the greens were running a tad slow for the yote, but they were still good.

00:29:40.147 --> 00:29:41.471
They were very receptive.

00:29:42.193 --> 00:29:42.595
Very soft.

00:29:43.385 --> 00:29:51.105
Very soft, but they, you know, they rolled true and, like I said, I was putting really, really good.

00:29:51.105 --> 00:29:56.817
I don't think I've ever had 28 putts out at Coyote.

00:29:57.337 --> 00:30:07.439
Yeah, it's solid Came close to another chip in Chipping, has been doing that Joseph Mayo stuff and it's been really good.

00:30:07.439 --> 00:30:26.200
But the putting I was excited because this was the first round that I've played back to a traditional grip and uh, using preston's uh ideology and uh, man, really happy with how it was, I I had dan barking in my ear a little bit about it.

00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.530
So what's going on?

00:30:29.031 --> 00:30:31.326
yeah, after he one putted his fifth hole in the row, I go.

00:30:31.326 --> 00:30:31.526
Who's?

00:30:31.526 --> 00:30:36.666
This fucking putting guy you're talking to For real, joe.

00:30:36.666 --> 00:30:38.031
I mean it was incredible.

00:30:38.031 --> 00:30:40.992
I mean everything was perfect, perfect, speed lines, perfect.

00:30:40.992 --> 00:30:42.669
I mean.

00:30:42.749 --> 00:30:44.113
I was like what the fuck.

00:30:44.113 --> 00:30:45.876
Yeah, woke up a beast.

00:30:45.876 --> 00:30:59.030
It's amazing, when you get in the right positions and you have the right swing thoughts and you have the right tempo, how much of a relief and pressure it takes off you to just be able to go up there and just stroke the ball.

00:30:59.171 --> 00:31:08.797
so it was and I'm not talking like, we're not talking like eight footers, ten footers, one putts he had like two or three of them for 20, plus, I mean, a couple of bombs.

00:31:09.357 --> 00:31:13.855
Yeah, On three, that pin was in the middle.

00:31:13.855 --> 00:31:22.912
I was in the center but I was up back on the back of the green and drained that that was a good one.

00:31:24.086 --> 00:31:24.809
That was a good one.

00:31:25.867 --> 00:31:28.211
And that's with the Scotty, that wasn't with the jailbird.

00:31:28.211 --> 00:31:30.307
The jailbird has been benched.

00:31:30.307 --> 00:31:34.994
He a new time being he's in jail and, uh, what is?

00:31:35.015 --> 00:31:35.256
that?

00:31:35.256 --> 00:31:37.960
Uh, what's that?

00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.589
Um psychiatrist app?

00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:51.134
You guys don't know what I'm talking about no psychiatrist app yeah, where you can find, maybe they'll sponsor us um the app.

00:31:51.234 --> 00:31:57.935
No, you mean those the ones that are all the crime junkie podcasts, or have the sponsors for the mental health stuff.

00:31:58.096 --> 00:31:59.826
Yeah, yeah, have you been joining those?

00:32:00.147 --> 00:32:01.130
no, no, no, no.

00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:02.353
It's so funny.

00:32:02.353 --> 00:32:07.573
My daughter was telling me that because she's uh, you know different era of youtube than me.

00:32:07.573 --> 00:32:22.897
She watches a lot of stuff and she's said that there's tons of scams going around with all the mental health websites and that the people that are signing up to be coaches and psychologists are just like basement.

00:32:22.897 --> 00:32:27.797
You know 50 year olds that have no experience whatsoever because they don't even check qualifications.

00:32:27.797 --> 00:32:34.665
You're getting advice from a guy eating dominoes and watching reruns of the sopranos like talking to him.

00:32:34.685 --> 00:32:44.711
He's like dude, just fucking chill out bro, do some yoga like you're good, don't worry about it so no, I'm not.

00:32:44.830 --> 00:32:50.237
I have not been spending any time with a mental advisor.

00:32:50.237 --> 00:32:54.122
I've been working, grinding and it's paying off.

00:32:54.122 --> 00:32:58.856
So yeah, it should be a great tournament.

00:32:58.856 --> 00:33:01.053
We'll award our second.

00:33:01.053 --> 00:33:02.369
Squid Design was in here earlier.

00:33:02.369 --> 00:33:04.132
I should have brought the trophy in to show everybody.

00:33:04.132 --> 00:33:08.635
There are ace wood plaques that he does.

00:33:08.635 --> 00:33:12.314
Hats off to Jason there at Squid Design.

00:33:12.314 --> 00:33:14.892
They're pretty freaking amazing.

00:33:14.892 --> 00:33:16.451
So everybody really likes those trophies.

00:33:16.451 --> 00:33:23.019
And then I've already started chatting with Joel at Atomic.

00:33:23.019 --> 00:33:25.553
So the trophies for the player of the year.

00:33:25.553 --> 00:33:34.714
If you go on to Atomic Golf and look at some of the trophies he's done for Ballyneal and some of the other places, it's going to be similar to that with a little VGN spin on it.

00:33:34.714 --> 00:33:39.547
That is that you guys.

00:33:39.547 --> 00:33:43.156
Did you watch any of the Procore Championship?

00:33:44.288 --> 00:33:44.830
Not a lick.

00:33:45.747 --> 00:33:47.492
I watched like 30 seconds of it.

00:33:48.125 --> 00:33:48.970
Yeah, not a lick.

00:33:53.325 --> 00:33:54.107
With college football and football.

00:33:54.107 --> 00:33:59.224
Yeah, I didn't watch much soulheim either, but uh, charlie hole just whooped nelly's ass on the last day.

00:33:59.224 --> 00:34:03.391
Usa still got the win, so that was awesome for them to get that.

00:34:03.391 --> 00:34:06.635
Um, pat and kazire ended up winning.

00:34:06.635 --> 00:34:09.119
Uh, congrats to him for that.

00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:15.072
One by five, hojan garden won the uh over the irish open.

00:34:15.072 --> 00:34:15.713
Did you see that?

00:34:16.735 --> 00:34:23.849
nope, no, no did you see the uh, I think it was the golf junkie post?

00:34:23.849 --> 00:34:39.838
Um how many players that are not on taylor made are playing the qi 10 fairway woods and it was pretty is a lot of them yeah, not even playing the tour version.

00:34:39.858 --> 00:34:45.612
They're playing the v, steel, yeah, the v steel and I found that interesting.

00:34:46.474 --> 00:35:05.413
Yeah, I'm like maybe I should get rid of my sim fees deal and get one of those I I have been going back and forth with the, the five woods for the callaway callaway's uh ai smoke line and my sim titanium.

00:35:05.413 --> 00:35:09.221
It's you know, the first edition sim five wood titanium.

00:35:09.221 --> 00:35:13.632
Yeah, great club, great great club dude the numbers just don't.

00:35:14.032 --> 00:35:15.759
I haven't seen anything that's made me go.

00:35:15.759 --> 00:35:20.974
Yes, you need to change this, so I'm I'm sticking with it for the time being.

00:35:20.974 --> 00:35:28.188
I do love the three wood and I do love the seven wood, but, uh, I have found no reason to get rid of the five wood whatsoever.

00:35:29.951 --> 00:35:31.092
Yeah, I mean, I still have it.

00:35:31.092 --> 00:35:32.353
I mean, when did that come out?

00:35:32.353 --> 00:35:35.034
2020, 2019.

00:35:35.034 --> 00:35:37.498
Oh God, long time ago.

00:35:37.518 --> 00:35:38.137
Yeah, it's been.

00:35:38.137 --> 00:35:38.898
I mean cause they had the.

00:35:38.898 --> 00:35:42.222
Sim, the SIM to the stealth, and the stealth too, and now the QI.

00:35:42.222 --> 00:35:46.907
So that's five iteration.

00:35:46.907 --> 00:35:48.592
No, that's two years, two and a half years.

00:35:48.592 --> 00:35:49.735
They come out with them so often.

00:35:49.735 --> 00:35:51.471
No, it's probably like four years.

00:35:52.585 --> 00:35:53.971
Yeah, but it's a great club.

00:35:53.971 --> 00:35:54.813
I love it.

00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:57.576
It's still really good.

00:35:57.576 --> 00:35:59.244
What did he say?

00:35:59.244 --> 00:36:05.710
Mark said Kazire sounds like a soul golfer after W said he's just trying to have fun all week and even help pick the range barefoot.

00:36:06.050 --> 00:36:08.197
Look at that, hey shut up.

00:36:08.197 --> 00:36:13.365
Wow, the range barefoot.

00:36:13.365 --> 00:36:13.947
Look at that, hey, shut up.

00:36:13.967 --> 00:36:17.233
wow, that's, let me get, send me your address patent I'll, uh, I'll send you some stuff.

00:36:17.253 --> 00:36:20.260
I'll send you some stuff?

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:20.840
Oh, good griefs.

00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.608
Uh, no, no, pga tour stuff going on this week.

00:36:24.608 --> 00:36:26.150
Uh, they're taking the week off.

00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:28.675
Uh, president's cup coming up next week.

00:36:28.675 --> 00:36:36.655
Harry is playing in the bmw championship, so that's good for him.

00:36:36.655 --> 00:36:37.918
Got a little.

00:36:37.918 --> 00:36:39.221
Uh, let's see where's it at where's it?

00:36:39.221 --> 00:36:42.219
This is harry hall and you're listening to the chasing daylight podcast.

00:36:42.219 --> 00:36:44.929
This is harry hall oh, don't need to repeat.

00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:49.318
Uh, so good luck to him over there in his homeland.

00:36:49.318 --> 00:36:53.768
So hopefully he can have a good showing there.

00:36:53.768 --> 00:36:56.293
President's coming yeah I, I don't.

00:36:57.153 --> 00:37:02.652
There wasn't a whole lot of shit to talk about this week, so uh, let's do our las vegas golf.

00:37:03.012 --> 00:37:12.097
Uh, superstore ad, and uh, we'll be right back there's something that binds us all the joy of connecting on and off the course.

00:37:12.097 --> 00:37:12.639
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The way a little heckle can be just the push you need Get there.

00:37:16.936 --> 00:37:20.375
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Get there, visit us at your local Las Vegas golf superstore or shop online at worldwidegolfcom.

00:37:30.677 --> 00:37:32.449
Worldwide.

00:37:32.971 --> 00:37:38.494
get there I do love.

00:37:38.494 --> 00:37:50.824
I do love how it's the las vegas golf superstore and the commercial is not a las vegas golf course well, they're a huge, I know, I know I know, I know, let's get a little more localized.

00:37:50.985 --> 00:37:54.135
Come on, guys, yeah oh, have us filming commercial.

00:37:54.135 --> 00:37:56.643
Bring us out in the house, mr barber.

00:37:56.643 --> 00:37:57.846
What, what's going on?

00:37:57.846 --> 00:37:58.947
Steve-o?

00:37:58.947 --> 00:38:02.012
Yeah, come back to golf.

00:38:02.012 --> 00:38:06.980
Enough with the car stereo stuff, come on, get back to golf.

00:38:06.980 --> 00:38:12.623
Uh, yeah, see you, you you've won some tournaments in the vgn.

00:38:12.623 --> 00:38:13.364
Do you need to come back?

00:38:13.364 --> 00:38:14.969
We miss you, we miss you.

00:38:16.331 --> 00:38:19.137
So, uh, I was walking around the las vegas golf superstore.

00:38:19.137 --> 00:38:23.413
I had to go meet julian and uh, pick up some, uh, some stuff for the fittings.

00:38:23.413 --> 00:38:29.976
And uh was walking around and you know, I've got a gift card from my last tournament, and then I had some trade-in gift card.

00:38:29.976 --> 00:38:33.114
I'm like, oh, I'll walk around and see if I can find anything.

00:38:33.114 --> 00:38:35.431
I couldn't find a goddamn thing that I needed.

00:38:35.431 --> 00:38:38.371
I don't need balls, I don't need any clubs right now.

00:38:38.371 --> 00:38:43.090
I don't need a golf bag, certainly don't need any hats, don't need any shoes.

00:38:43.090 --> 00:38:48.052
Hey, remind me to come back to the new Trues, the Cush.

00:38:49.074 --> 00:38:59.237
So I was walking around and I was like, fuck, I was ready to leave, and then I saw the little municipal rack and they had some municipal pants.

00:38:59.237 --> 00:39:03.476
And so I'm like, oh, all right, more than I would have.

00:39:03.476 --> 00:39:05.713
I mean, I probably would have never got them if I didn't have the gift card.

00:39:05.713 --> 00:39:13.652
But, holy crap, those are some amazing golf pants, incredibly comfortable, incredibly lightweight.

00:39:13.652 --> 00:39:22.518
Uh, I'll see how well they clean up from, uh, you know, shoe marks and grass stain and stuff like that, but uh, that's off to marky mark.

00:39:22.900 --> 00:39:25.510
Uh, the shoe, the the shoes look good.

00:39:25.510 --> 00:39:26.512
The clothes look good.

00:39:26.512 --> 00:39:42.009
Uh, dan and I both agree that the, the polos or steven steven jackson and I were talking about it the, the polos, they need to have more of a moisture wicking material than the cotton look, because I mean, you see, when the guys wear the municipal stuff they're just they're sweating like crazy and you can tell.

00:39:42.009 --> 00:39:53.768
But any spots this weekend open, no, unless you can bring three other people with you, it's full.

00:39:53.768 --> 00:39:56.393
Yeah, the pants really liked them, very comfortable.

00:39:56.393 --> 00:39:59.318
With the cooler weather coming, definitely be rocking those.

00:39:59.318 --> 00:40:09.833
So Anybody read anything on the PIF news we're such an in touch with?

00:40:10.905 --> 00:40:13.052
I saw I saw something about it, yeah.

00:40:13.594 --> 00:40:14.416
Oh, anything good.

00:40:14.625 --> 00:40:27.851
I saw Rappaport's post how they met in New York this past weekend and the players are asking for some contribution from like John Rom's contract or something like that.

00:40:28.525 --> 00:40:30.240
Yeah, cause of his 300 million dollars.

00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:37.672
they were saying yeah, and I mean I will side with the, the live players, on this one.

00:40:37.672 --> 00:40:39.170
I mean they took the risk.

00:40:39.170 --> 00:40:43.811
I mean that doesn't mean the money is owed to the PGA Tour players.

00:40:43.811 --> 00:40:49.992
I mean if you want them back on the tour, then you know you have them, but they took the risk to leave.

00:40:49.992 --> 00:40:52.789
It is what it is.

00:40:55.123 --> 00:40:55.545
It's true.

00:40:55.545 --> 00:40:58.447
Yeah, I don't know.

00:40:58.447 --> 00:41:06.934
I don't know how you can tell somebody that you've got to give some of the money that you've got for leaving to come back.

00:41:06.934 --> 00:41:10.289
I mean, maybe that's how they word it you want to come back?

00:41:10.289 --> 00:41:11.907
Okay, we need a percentage of your money.

00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:20.842
Yeah, well, I mean they're probably negotiating from a side that probably the product is not the same product.

00:41:20.842 --> 00:41:29.028
So if they're not benefiting from it because they left and they took the rest risk to leave, I mean that doesn't mean it's owed to you.

00:41:29.028 --> 00:41:35.103
It means that they left, took a risk and your product isn't as good as it was because they left.

00:41:35.103 --> 00:41:38.286
That doesn't mean it's owed to you no, it doesn't mean it's owed.

00:41:38.306 --> 00:41:48.226
But they can certainly say if you want to come back, you're going to pay us yeah, totally but don't you to get out of live contracts?

00:41:48.246 --> 00:41:50.675
don't you got to pay back all that money too?

00:41:50.675 --> 00:41:52.581
Isn't that like something to do to get?

00:41:52.682 --> 00:41:53.684
I don't I don't think it.

00:41:53.684 --> 00:41:55.530
I don't think it's a live contract issue.

00:41:55.530 --> 00:42:06.322
I think it's a merger issue, where live does want to merge with pga tour, but the pga tour is saying that since those guys left, we need some of that money that they got.

00:42:06.322 --> 00:42:09.811
I see, I think that's, I think that's what it is.

00:42:09.811 --> 00:42:15.003
I see, and and live is like, well, they got paid that money, they took the risk.

00:42:15.003 --> 00:42:17.989
That doesn't mean it goes back to you.

00:42:17.989 --> 00:42:23.385
It means if you want these guys back, we merge and that's what's in their pocket.

00:42:23.385 --> 00:42:24.306
They took the risk.

00:42:24.306 --> 00:42:32.925
So I don't know, I and I think I, I do believe that the pga tour product has suffered from this.

00:42:33.865 --> 00:42:38.411
Um oh absolutely, but that's on their own doing, jay.

00:42:38.452 --> 00:42:41.115
Monahan took that meeting along years ago.

00:42:41.115 --> 00:42:44.927
I don't think it has suffered as bad as the ratings.

00:42:44.927 --> 00:42:47.251
Live is not getting no, yeah, yeah.

00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:48.722
The live.

00:42:48.722 --> 00:42:51.891
I'm sure the live ratings are trash, they're garbage.

00:42:51.891 --> 00:42:58.431
But you know they don't have to worry about financials on that side because they have all the money in the world Yep.

00:42:58.431 --> 00:43:01.614
Don't have to worry about financials on that side because they have all the money in the world yep.

00:43:01.614 --> 00:43:04.197
But if, if pga tour wants their ratings to go up, they gotta bring them back.

00:43:04.197 --> 00:43:10.507
And uh, yeah, those guys took the risk and yeah, it is what it is.

00:43:10.507 --> 00:43:22.842
I mean, their contract should not pay for the merger they left and monahan needs to find a way to bring them together, or it is what it?

00:43:23.001 --> 00:43:30.664
is you know, it's not john ron's fault or brooks's fault or phil's fault.

00:43:30.664 --> 00:43:34.213
They left, they took the risk and they're gone.

00:43:34.213 --> 00:43:35.516
They're fine.

00:43:35.516 --> 00:43:47.532
I I know john ron wants to come back for sure, like I do feel that john rom wants to come back, but hey, he's set for life if he doesn't yeah, and that's that's the thing.

00:43:47.574 --> 00:44:01.711
How and I think that's where the pga is has the leverage to say hey, this is clearly where you want to be right, you need a little bit of the scratch to get you back over here.

00:44:01.711 --> 00:44:05.067
Yeah, I mean, I can't blame them for it, anything they can.

00:44:05.067 --> 00:44:06.985
I mean they don't fucking need the money.

00:44:07.186 --> 00:44:14.402
I mean good Lord, no golfer, unless you're grinding on like Latin America or you're like I was talking about.

00:44:14.422 --> 00:44:16.501
the PGA doesn't need the money they, exactly.

00:44:16.501 --> 00:44:18.525
But some of the I was talking about the PGA doesn't need the money.

00:44:18.525 --> 00:44:18.887
They, they, exactly.

00:44:18.907 --> 00:44:20.150
But as much as the golfers do.

00:44:20.150 --> 00:44:20.972
I mean if, like.

00:44:20.972 --> 00:44:29.108
I mean I could see, like if some of that money went to, like, the people that are on Latin America or PGA Canada or something like that, the lower tours.

00:44:29.489 --> 00:44:30.554
Yeah, totally Right.

00:44:30.554 --> 00:44:45.425
Like everybody that is um top 50 made more money than they did last year and the year before that, and there's so much money in golf right now.

00:44:45.425 --> 00:44:59.291
But you know, if they structured it to where, like the people that are grinding to get there, and they showcase that to Jon Rahm, I think it might be more of a incentive for him.

00:44:59.291 --> 00:45:01.969
He might want to get back to the people that are coming up.

00:45:01.969 --> 00:45:05.148
But if it's just going to the PGA tour, he wouldn't.

00:45:05.148 --> 00:45:07.527
He wouldn't, but I think it would be more of a.

00:45:07.527 --> 00:45:16.083
It'd be a better like sign of faith to like we're trying to breed a you know, up and comer situation.

00:45:16.083 --> 00:45:19.380
It's not going to happen, but yeah it.

00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.586
You know up and comer situation it's not gonna happen, but yeah, it's just going.

00:45:21.586 --> 00:45:24.434
Just going to jay monahan john rom doesn't give a fuck about jay monahan no, they nobody.

00:45:24.474 --> 00:45:25.197
They don't care.

00:45:26.501 --> 00:45:32.769
Yeah, I don't care oh jay martin oh there he is.

00:45:33.530 --> 00:45:36.755
What can we say to throw him off?

00:45:40.565 --> 00:45:44.391
yeah, what could, what could we say uh?

00:45:44.530 --> 00:45:45.572
I got it is he jumping?

00:45:45.713 --> 00:45:46.534
on I'll.

00:45:46.534 --> 00:45:47.862
I'll let you know when he pops in.

00:45:48.041 --> 00:45:50.909
So I'm just gonna say fuck jay monahan.

00:45:50.909 --> 00:45:51.652
What do you think, jeremy?

00:45:55.807 --> 00:46:00.536
out of nowhere, just come on give us your thoughts uh, yeah, for those of you.

00:46:00.536 --> 00:46:02.862
Uh, just listening, jeremy hasn't been here yet.

00:46:02.862 --> 00:46:14.146
Uh, he had a little change in flight for his wife so he was not able to get at home and when he was supposed to be, so that's why he's running a little late.

00:46:14.146 --> 00:46:21.695
Well, he's running a lot late, but but that's okay, nothing wrong with the stack guy the stat guy.

00:46:21.940 --> 00:46:31.242
So, um, and anything else that has popped up, uh, golf wise, uh, locally equipment, anything there's.

00:46:31.242 --> 00:46:35.751
There's not a lot to talk about right now yeah there's not there's a few.

00:46:35.891 --> 00:46:46.369
There's a few new drops with equipment, you know, like the new sirxon irons that are coming out and dropping this look fantastic, they look great, yeah, they do look, they do look really great, they really do and um you know.

00:46:46.369 --> 00:46:47.271
So that's kind of exciting.

00:46:47.271 --> 00:46:52.121
You get to see all the new stuff that they're going to start testing here soon and getting ready to release for next season.

00:46:52.121 --> 00:46:58.750
So kind of interested in that, seeing, uh, seeing who's coming with what I do.

00:46:58.769 --> 00:47:15.085
I do have something in the golf course news which I did send to you guys, cabot is oh, yeah, yeah yeah, oh yeah, going to scotland lufthansa links or lafferton.

00:47:15.746 --> 00:47:20.994
I I'm sure us, us Americans pronounce it Laffiton, but I think it's the Norway one right.

00:47:20.994 --> 00:47:22.525
It's the Norway one.

00:47:22.525 --> 00:47:35.266
I mean that is a hell of a spot, for I think Cabot is going to make it so much better and they have a lot of land up there to expand, so it's it's could be good.

00:47:35.266 --> 00:47:41.061
I mean, it's a tough place to get to, but Cabot I mean it could be good.

00:47:41.081 --> 00:47:43.527
I mean, it's a tough place to get to but cabot, I mean, that's one of the places.

00:47:43.547 --> 00:47:44.550
Once you get there, though, you're there.

00:47:44.550 --> 00:47:46.661
Yeah, cab, according to matt, cabot doesn't know what they're doing at all.

00:47:46.661 --> 00:47:50.590
But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:47:50.590 --> 00:47:55.967
You know they got st lucia if you've ever first off there was only one.

00:47:56.730 --> 00:47:58.052
There was only one cabot.

00:47:58.052 --> 00:48:00.682
When I went to cabot there wasn't multiple ones.

00:48:00.682 --> 00:48:09.365
I will, and I have always said this the accommodations were amazing, the food was fantastic, the people were excellent.

00:48:09.365 --> 00:48:13.634
I just did not like the cliffs golf course.

00:48:13.634 --> 00:48:15.181
I loved the links golf course.

00:48:15.181 --> 00:48:18.086
I loved being able to put on the 18th at night.

00:48:18.086 --> 00:48:21.994
I love being able to sit in the bar outside and watch people hit into the 18th.

00:48:21.994 --> 00:48:24.965
I just didn't like the Cliffs course.

00:48:24.965 --> 00:48:26.449
That's all.

00:48:26.449 --> 00:48:27.833
That's all Nothing.

00:48:27.833 --> 00:48:29.224
Nothing against Cabot.

00:48:29.646 --> 00:48:33.590
I mean, you said you'd never go back, ever so but no, because it's.

00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:48.085
I've been there and I've played it and I mean they do have the new par three course, which would be kind of cool to see, and now that there's a lot more there as far as accommodations and different things, it might entertain it.

00:48:48.085 --> 00:48:55.686
But I mean, if there's so many other places to go, why go back to a place that you've been and seen and didn't like?

00:48:55.686 --> 00:48:56.469
One of the golf courses?

00:48:58.822 --> 00:48:59.164
Yeah.

00:48:59.347 --> 00:48:59.831
I don't know.

00:49:00.581 --> 00:49:01.525
Yeah, I get it.

00:49:01.525 --> 00:49:06.547
I think if you had a second shot at it you might like it though.

00:49:06.588 --> 00:49:09.112
Who'd you go there with my buddy, andrew, okay.

00:49:11.201 --> 00:49:12.226
What did Andrew think of it?

00:49:14.561 --> 00:49:18.025
He wasn't a fan of the Cliffs course either, but he liked the Lynx course.

00:49:18.025 --> 00:49:20.248
We both kind of felt the same way about the cliffs course.

00:49:20.248 --> 00:49:24.050
It just I know there's some really good holes on it.

00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:28.871
I don't want to like shit on the whole thing but uh, there's some really good holes.

00:49:28.871 --> 00:49:45.130
There's just some really fucking stupid holes that just like, imagine like a four stretch of just really bad golf holes on like Pac-Dunes You'd be like you know it just wouldn't be as amazing.

00:49:45.130 --> 00:49:48.429
You know, because Pac-Dunes has incredible golf holes, 1 through 18.

00:49:48.429 --> 00:50:04.246
But if you took, you know, like 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8, and they were just stupid, and then the 17th and 16th were just lame, it would really put a dent in your experience and your like for that golf course.

00:50:04.246 --> 00:50:13.907
And then you take the four five-hour flight to Toronto, the layover, the hour flight to.

00:50:13.947 --> 00:50:17.309
Halifax, the four-and-a-half-hour drive to Cabot.

00:50:18.340 --> 00:50:19.806
You add all that into it.

00:50:19.806 --> 00:50:34.492
I think that's one of those things, right Like Cabot, courses are hard to get to and I feel like you get so hyped up to go there that it can let you down If it's not what you expect, because it it's you're, you're you want.

00:50:34.492 --> 00:50:38.090
You have to want to go there because it is a trek, it is a journey.

00:50:38.090 --> 00:50:45.893
Oh yeah, I mean mean and and band in itself is is a trek, but it's not that kind of trek right.

00:50:46.193 --> 00:50:57.690
No, it's hard to get to that and it's like you all that time, and then you get there and it's like this is it, you know?

00:50:57.690 --> 00:51:04.101
It's like, wow, I was kind of hoping there would be more you know, yeah, like it's.

00:51:04.242 --> 00:51:07.148
I could see that because it takes a lot to get there.

00:51:07.469 --> 00:51:12.750
So I mean band, and at least you've got the town of band, you got tony's, you know crap yeah, there's nothing.

00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:16.623
There's nothing in cape breton, oh no there's nothing you know.

00:51:16.663 --> 00:51:19.407
And we asked somebody like, hey, what does, what does everybody do around here?

00:51:19.407 --> 00:51:20.208
It's like drink.

00:51:20.228 --> 00:51:27.782
It's like, yeah, whoa, okay, right, yeah yeah, I mean that's what's gonna be in norway.

00:51:27.782 --> 00:51:29.085
I mean it's all.

00:51:29.144 --> 00:51:34.463
There's nothing up there oh no, but I mean, like I said, the, the food was really good.

00:51:34.463 --> 00:51:38.735
The, the room we stayed in was amazing, it was fantastic.

00:51:38.735 --> 00:51:45.251
You know, it looked right out onto the, the I think it was the third hole that you played on on the links course.

00:51:45.251 --> 00:51:47.001
Um, it was, it was great.

00:51:47.001 --> 00:51:48.525
I mean, everything was really really nice.

00:51:48.525 --> 00:52:17.934
It's just there was so much hype about it and all the people that were hyping it up were all beat writers that probably flew in via helicopter and, you know, had, uh, all the top-notch facilities and all the food and all the amazing things, and they were treated like royalty, you know, of course, for them, hey, you fly me out in a private jet and a helicopter and I'm there in two hours, okay yeah you know from new york city, it's not that bad of a get yeah, yeah, I think that's what cabot's going.

00:52:17.994 --> 00:52:28.626
I mean, besides citrus farm, I mean you know, you know terry ed is amazing, but could you imagine, like the trek to get to terry ed and then you get there, and what if the golf just sucks?

00:52:28.626 --> 00:52:32.074
You know it, just it will.

00:52:32.074 --> 00:52:45.632
It will change your opinion of the place now we know that that's not true, because we've seen the pictures, we've seen the stories, we've heard people and I mean a lot of people hype up cabot links and and cliffs too.

00:52:45.733 --> 00:53:22.461
But I think that's one of those things, though, like because it's golf is fairly personal, personal right, and you can like or dislike things, but when you like, if you were flying to new zealand to play one course and it doesn't live up to your expectations, you're going to be like if it didn't live up to it, the nut was not worth the squeeze, you know, and and that's that's where it could have an impact, even though it's like there's so many factors in it, like maybe it didn't play well or maybe things like that.

00:53:22.461 --> 00:53:27.690
But I know you didn't factor that into your thoughts, but I hope not.

00:53:27.690 --> 00:53:29.454
Um, no, no, no, I.

00:53:29.614 --> 00:53:34.668
I looked at it as as, like the experience, and there was some really good.

00:53:34.668 --> 00:53:38.786
There was some really good fun experiences that we had out there.

00:53:38.786 --> 00:53:42.364
I mean, we, we made a good go at it.

00:53:42.364 --> 00:53:43.407
You know we had a good time.

00:53:43.407 --> 00:53:48.344
You know I hit the flagstick on 17 on the first day and almost got a hole in one and it was.

00:53:48.344 --> 00:53:51.291
You know there was some really a lot of fun we had.

00:53:51.942 --> 00:53:55.112
Um, I just was are you just pissed that you didn't make that hole in one?

00:53:55.112 --> 00:53:56.498
Maybe not at all.

00:53:56.498 --> 00:54:00.242
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

00:54:00.722 --> 00:54:02.123
Got a couple comments we got to get to real quick.

00:54:02.123 --> 00:54:07.065
Jesse said Bubba Watson got relegated from Liv Hate to see that he couldn't put it back together.

00:54:07.065 --> 00:54:14.809
Yeah, as it was a team captain, he may not lose his spot, but it's not guaranteed, so we'll see what happens with Bubba.

00:54:14.809 --> 00:54:20.972
Then Mark chiming in can't remember if you guys talked about this, but Red recently bears best as going private next year.

00:54:20.972 --> 00:54:22.012
Anyone know if that's true?

00:54:22.693 --> 00:54:31.277
Yeah, it is true, they are shutting down at the beginning of the year and they are doing a ton of renovations.

00:54:31.277 --> 00:54:47.072
I've heard some rumors that 17 and 18 are going bye-bye and that they're going to make the range 17 and 18, so don't know if that's true rumors, but uh, yeah, they are definitely going private.

00:54:47.072 --> 00:55:04.809
So that's another course that las vegas golfers will not be able to play, or let me rephrase that, that's another course that tourists will not be able to get raped at for going to and paying exorbitantly high rates to play a mediocre golf course yeah, I'd probably rather play the ditch than bears best price tag.

00:55:04.849 --> 00:55:11.228
Whoa price that's a price tag, oh, price, okay all right.

00:55:11.309 --> 00:55:32.108
I don't know if I agree with that I'd rather pay 50 dollars to play the ditch, then 120 to play bears best agree to disagree yeah, I don't, yeah, I mean I there's

00:55:32.128 --> 00:55:32.269
a lot.

00:55:32.269 --> 00:55:37.219
There's no flow, man, it's no, there's no, it's not cohesive, it's scattering it's the cliff course of vegas man 20.

00:55:46.981 --> 00:55:47.302
fuck 18.

00:55:47.302 --> 00:55:48.927
Good to see it go man 17, 18 pulls out there.

00:55:48.947 --> 00:55:50.273
Oh, come on, that is such a great golf hole.

00:55:50.273 --> 00:55:50.634
Oh, it's 17.

00:55:50.634 --> 00:55:51.135
18 are the best.

00:55:51.135 --> 00:55:55.947
Just because in the water a lot on that hole, yeah that's a that's a challenging, tough.

00:55:56.407 --> 00:56:16.867
Last in there, I've been in that water a bunch too, oh man and that if you, if you're fortunate enough to not make the water, then you have a bunker shot that's 200 yards to a guarded pin that's with two by fours in front of it yeah, I mean, that is a, that is a challenge, that is a challenge.

00:56:16.867 --> 00:56:19.157
So I guess jeremy's not challenge.

00:56:19.157 --> 00:56:24.061
I guess Jeremy's not hopping on, I guess he's not what a punk Loser.

00:56:24.463 --> 00:56:31.106
What a loser Sitting in the passenger pickup lane at McCarran.

00:56:34.882 --> 00:56:37.947
I will be out at Wild Horse on Thursday from 9 to 2.

00:56:37.947 --> 00:56:39.324
We've got fittings all day.

00:56:39.324 --> 00:56:46.068
If you want to come by, if you're in the area, check out some of the new Opus wedges or see some of the new irons.

00:56:46.068 --> 00:56:47.851
Uh, please come on by say hi.

00:56:47.851 --> 00:56:49.987
Uh, I'll be out there, like I said, from nine to two.

00:56:49.987 --> 00:56:59.914
Um, and then, uh, the following week, julie and I are at Rio Seco, I believe, and in South Shore.

00:56:59.914 --> 00:57:04.273
So some good fitting events South Shore.

00:57:04.715 --> 00:57:09.106
Yeah, hey, you know what you got to do when you're there.

00:57:09.126 --> 00:57:11.192
Pick you up a hat.

00:57:11.251 --> 00:57:11.351
Yeah.

00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:22.384
Dan hasn't played South Shore yet, yeah that's one I have to knock off.

00:57:22.384 --> 00:57:23.646
South.

00:57:23.666 --> 00:57:26.092
Shore and the Wind Only two left.

00:57:27.862 --> 00:57:31.088
Yeah, and my two left are Summit and Red Rock.

00:57:31.088 --> 00:57:32.452
Oh, and the Wind.

00:57:32.452 --> 00:57:36.371
I mean I've played DI, but I haven't played the Wind since Steve Wind ruined it.

00:57:37.380 --> 00:57:39.969
My two left, shadow and nellis air force base.

00:57:39.969 --> 00:57:42.967
You guys left those out.

00:57:42.967 --> 00:57:45.353
I played nellis, I played nellis.

00:57:46.094 --> 00:57:48.681
Oh you assholes I'm at, I'm at air force brad.

00:57:48.702 --> 00:57:53.402
When you think that's right, yeah, that's right I had a neighbor that lived like three houses down from me.

00:57:53.422 --> 00:58:01.813
He was a golfer and he was in the air force, so that's how I got to play it is, uh nellis, better than the cliffs course, and he was in the Air Force, so that's how I got to play it.

00:58:01.952 --> 00:58:04.458
Is Nellis better than the Cliffs course.

00:58:04.478 --> 00:58:04.659
No Uh.

00:58:04.882 --> 00:58:06.465
Cheesy's part of Bear's Best is Black Sand.

00:58:06.465 --> 00:58:07.393
Yeah, 100%.

00:58:07.432 --> 00:58:08.179
But it's kind of cool.

00:58:08.179 --> 00:58:10.907
It should not be on there.

00:58:11.028 --> 00:58:24.067
It should be there, so scatterbrainy, but that will not be there when they reopen it's not even black sand, it's black pebbles it's like kitty litter.

00:58:24.768 --> 00:58:27.251
Yeah, it's like they.

00:58:27.251 --> 00:58:28.454
They tried, they tried.

00:58:28.454 --> 00:58:31.327
You know, they tried, they tried, they tried.

00:58:31.327 --> 00:58:36.324
Um, all right, well, if we ain't got anything else, jeremy's not coming on.

00:58:36.324 --> 00:58:41.652
Good luck to everybody out at coyote springs this weekend.

00:58:41.652 --> 00:58:43.661
It's going to be a great day.

00:58:43.661 --> 00:58:56.009
The the standings are going to get all jumbled up after this one because it's a 500 point event and then there's only one event left on the 2024 regular season schedule and that's legacy.

00:58:57.670 --> 00:59:02.615
We are almost locked in all the dates and courses for next year.

00:59:02.615 --> 00:59:13.891
Registration for those listening that may want to join us next year at the VGN the VGN tour will open up registration October 1st.

00:59:13.891 --> 00:59:15.784
So be on the lookout for that.

00:59:15.784 --> 00:59:29.411
$250 annual membership membership that helps us cover all the costs for Golf Genius because that shit's expensive and the Player of the Year prizes and trophies and all that stuff.

00:59:29.411 --> 00:59:31.568
So the money does get used.

00:59:31.568 --> 00:59:33.286
It does all go back into the league.

00:59:33.286 --> 00:59:37.130
This is, like I've said, not a profit endeavor for me.

00:59:37.130 --> 00:59:43.693
This is something to bring a better network of golfers for Vegas golfers.

00:59:43.693 --> 00:59:51.623
So yeah, come hang with us and come have some fun, come play some tournament golf and with the VGM players.

00:59:51.623 --> 00:59:56.634
We just had our first event at Coyote Springs it was last weekend that went off very well.

00:59:56.634 --> 00:59:57.704
I think everybody had a good time.

00:59:58.621 --> 01:00:00.086
And we got Dragon Ridge next month.

01:00:00.086 --> 01:00:03.824
Let's have some spots available for that if anybody wants in on that.

01:00:03.824 --> 01:00:09.309
So please reach out to me, Otherwise, if anybody else don't have anything else.

01:00:09.309 --> 01:00:11.344
Joe, you want to wrap her up?

01:00:12.829 --> 01:00:14.351
Yeah, sure, my pleasure.

01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:16.643
We'll be talking about it.

01:00:16.664 --> 01:00:17.347
You already did.

01:00:17.628 --> 01:00:24.641
No, I'm just saying we pleasure.

01:00:24.641 --> 01:00:25.121
Are you gonna interrupt?

01:00:25.121 --> 01:00:25.902
We'll be talking about you already did.

01:00:25.902 --> 01:00:29.166
No, I'm just saying, we'll be chatting with you next week about uh best page there here.

01:00:29.186 --> 01:00:29.547
I'll mute myself.

01:00:29.547 --> 01:00:33.733
Hey, uh, hey, shout out my guy hesher hack, new, new content creator out of indiana.

01:00:33.733 --> 01:00:35.221
He's a skateboarder golf.

01:00:35.221 --> 01:00:37.565
Uh, dude, now go follow him.

01:00:37.565 --> 01:00:43.675
Hesher hack uh, he played with my buddy Jake out at Purgatory a couple weeks ago.

01:00:43.675 --> 01:00:47.090
Anyway, thanks for tuning in to Chase the Daylight Podcast.

01:00:47.090 --> 01:00:54.920
Yes, we hopefully will be talking about my experience at Bethpage Black, as Matt mentioned when he interrupted me on the outro.

01:00:54.920 --> 01:01:02.094
But we are here this week, so make sure you share this week's episode with your friends.

01:01:02.094 --> 01:01:05.289
Listen like, subscribe, review.

01:01:05.289 --> 01:01:06.846
We'll be back next week.

01:01:06.846 --> 01:01:12.672
I will be back in town so we can talk all about it and how many bagels I ate over the course of four days.

01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:22.922
But until then, shout out Jeremy for tuning in tonight and we'll see you next week Later.

01:01:22.922 --> 01:01:23.202
Thank you.

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