Aug. 28, 2024

E289: Sky Mountain with the VGN, Acupuncture Insights, and a shout out to The Sweet Spot

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Have you ever wondered how frustrations on the golf course can turn into a memorable adventure? Join us as we recount our recent escapades at Sky Mountain Golf Course, where missing range balls and unprepared carts became the backdrop for unexpected laughs and camaraderie. We also highlight the silver linings, from the eclectic mix of golf balls to the friendly restaurant staff serving up some of the best burgers we've had. Together, we navigate the chaos with humor and gratitude, celebrating victories and finding joy in the little things that make a day on the greens unforgettable.

Imagine improving your golf game with acupuncture! We dive into the unique dynamics of golf tournaments, exploring how course familiarity can impact performance and sharing personal stories from recent events in St. George. It's not all golf, though—we touch on health and wellness tips, revealing how treatments like acupuncture and specific stretching devices have helped us manage knee issues and plantar fasciitis. Our conversation is a blend of practical advice and personal experiences, culminating in a successful practice round that led to Matt's tournament victory.

Matt shared the details of an excellent golf podcast he found, The Sweet Spot, with hosts Jon Sherman and Adam Young. If you like tuning in to our show, you'll love theirs.

We shared an exciting update about the Vegas Golf Network, including the launch of the VGN Players for more casual outings. We also discussed upcoming events at Coyote Springs and Dragonridge and our thoughts on the recent changes at East Lake Golf Course and their impact on the PGA Tour Championship.

This episode offers engaging content for every golf enthusiast, from personal stories about new backyard pools and putting greens to equipment discussions and course conditions. Also, hear about our latest golf course reviews, equipment debates, and Joe's Red Rock Country Club outing.

Links for this episode:
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sweet-spot-golf-podcast/id1552917994
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https://www.instagram.com/adamyoung.golf/


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Chapters

00:30 - Sky Mountain Golf Course Review

12:53 - Golf Tournament Winners and Acupuncture

26:43 - VGN Network Expansion and Golf Updates

38:37 - Backyard Pool, Golf Podcast Reviews

47:56 - Iron Selection and Fitting Discussion

57:21 - Water Restrictions and Golf Talk

01:04:41 - Golf Course Discussions and Controversies

01:13:52 - Golf Course Reviews and Updates

Transcript
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.

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How are you boys doing this evening?

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Doing well.

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Doing great how about yourself.

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Big, big winner I'm doing fantastic yeah, about time, yeah, I mean it it took me a little while.

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It took me a little while, so, uh, but yeah, um got the got the win out in st george.

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Uh, pretty happy about that.

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It was a little bit of a cluster.

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I didn't know I won, which is kind of sad considering I was the one doing the scoring.

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Alessandro got his second win of the season out at Paiute and then he didn't play Wild Horse, so I had forgot that.

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Two wins, you get a promotion, but he's in the Spades division and promoting him to diamonds just isn't fair.

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Um, no offense to him or myself or anybody else that's in the spades division that can't compete with those guys.

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Um, so the rule is you just play as the low net player.

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You know no strokes and I forgot to do that so false hope man you gave him false hope.

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Well, yeah, I mean.

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I saw the video with Stephen.

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Stephen posted it and it's like sand's falling out of your pocket.

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So oh, Something's going on with the YouTube.

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I don't know why it's not going.

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Was that your first time playing sky mountain?

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yes, well, I played it the day before so yeah it was technically the second time, but yeah, it's the first time out there, um oh what I know.

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You have some things to say about sky, mountains oh, dude, you don't want to know what I have to say about Sky Mountain.

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Let it out.

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Let it out.

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Let's hear it.

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I um well, Do it, Do it Do it.

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God.

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You know, I don't want to talk shit about Brian Orr and his business, because we did this through a third party.

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He set it up and, um, you know I how long we've been doing the vgn four years now and I've never not had a tournament where we didn't have range balls.

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You know, um, that's kind of like part of the deal.

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And, uh, they, they didn't have our cart signs, they didn't print them out.

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Oh, we never got them.

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I'm like, okay, um, so, uh, they had the carts out at least, so I was able to set all the score cards out, um, but then I asked the guy I'm like, what about the range balls?

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And he's like, oh, there's a machine over there, you got to go buy them upstairs.

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I said, no, we're, I've got 48 guys here.

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And he's like, oh, you need to go talk to him inside.

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And so a couple other things were going on while I was trying to get it all ready and a couple other people are coming up going, hey, where's the range balls?

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And so I said to the guy I go, did he say anything?

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He's like, oh, yeah, you need to go talk to him.

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So I go into the talk to the pro there and I said, hey, what's the deal with the range balls?

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And he said, well, I didn't sell them range balls.

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And I said, okay, he goes.

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Yeah, they didn't ask for range balls when he booked the time, so I just didn't do it.

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And.

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I said okay, so you're not going to give me range balls and he goes no, I said okay, thank you, and walked out.

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And's that's when the uh, the text messages started.

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Oh man, I pulled up.

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I pulled up and I think I I came.

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I don't know who I came across, but a couple people were like matt is, uh, he's on one.

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It's like why, what happened?

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And uh, they're like, yeah, we gotta pay for range balls.

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And they were like were like you don't read your text messages.

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I was like dude, I've been driving the whole time to get here.

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I haven't looked at my text messages.

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Yeah, and the hodgepodge of balls that were in the baskets did not justify paying for those.

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I don't think they're all found golf balls.

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Every golf ball on there.

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There wasn't a range ball in there.

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Yeah, there's a nitro a tp5x top flights uh mojos super soft, like just the ultimate melting couple 392s, I mean it was it was weird and I was like and that's, and it was mats and the mats were just a piece of turf laid over some concrete a very thin layer of turf, yeah it.

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It wasn't, it wasn't the greatest start of the day to say, to say that I'll, that's okay okay I was.

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I was a little fired up, understandably, you know, and I was about to send a message out saying, if I find out that one person spent a fucking dime here, I'm kicking your ass out of the league.

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But I I deleted that and said okay.

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I typed it out.

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That was my event, you know.

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But everybody else was really nice.

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The guy in the restaurant afterwards was super nice Hell of a burger they make in there.

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It was really nice.

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Um, the, the guy in the restaurant afterwards was super nice.

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Um, hell of a burger they make in there.

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It was really good.

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Um, the, the guy outside, you know, he, after I got done inside and started getting everybody situated, he came up to me and he's like he goes they should have given you a range.

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Yeah, yeah, fuck God.

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There's nobody else there at that time.

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I mean yeah uh, so you know.

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I mean, what are you gonna do?

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what are you gonna do?

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Yeah, so, uh, but I, I think after, after that and and uh, you know, playing the first hole and and everything started going a little bit smoother um, the club's guys.

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It was so funny afterwards, uh barzen came up to me and he goes hey, I think it's awesome that you put the club guys out early, but don't do that again.

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He goes.

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There's a reason why we take five hours to play a round of golf because we suck.

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He goes.

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So don't do that again.

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I appreciate it, it was a nice gesture, but I don't want to be the cause of everybody's hate.

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It really felt like a long one.

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Yeah, well, we finished in 4-10.

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You were first.

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Yeah, we were the first out.

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That still feels very long for first out.

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The group in front of us.

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They disappeared after like hole two.

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We didn't see them again until like 16 and uh, then we were waiting just a little bit, not much, but uh, yeah, made it in 410 and then.

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So what's the excuse then?

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If nobody was in front of you, what took so long?

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410 tournament golf.

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What are you talking about?

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no, I know I I'm not saying that, I'm just saying it.

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That feels kind of for how short that course was.

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I think that's four hours easily even tournament, because it's so short.

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I don't know, I don't know.

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I mean tournament golf, is you're gonna what?

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Was it 64 for us 63 63 yeah, I mean super short yeah, but there's a lot of desert yeah and and, like I said, beginning terrence was spraying it all over the place until he switched his eight iron to tee off with um uh, but the next group came in in 440, wow and then the next group after that came in in five.

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So yeah, I mean I was by myself for a long time because Sean left.

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He bounced cause he had a.

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He had a bad day and he was like I'm out of here and Terrence had to take off.

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Um and uh, joey Repetti, his uh wife, came up with him and so he thought it was a shotgun.

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So he was, she was expecting him to be done.

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So he, he bounced.

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So I sat there for a while by myself eating my burger, watching the uh, the golf, uh, but yeah, so it.

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And then everybody else came in at five hours.

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So yeah, the sorry clubs guys.

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Last time I will say the consensus.

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I mean, the course was in great condition, greens were great, I mean, but the consensus was I'm not driving out here to play this course again, so I think that's X'd off the VGN schedule forever.

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The last three holes were really cool, good views.

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Oh amazing.

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But yeah, it was kind of hard for me because that was my first round after Bandon and I feel like I was on a high and it just kind of brought me down real quick.

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You just fucking fell off the cliff.

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Yeah, it was a little hard for me.

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I was like ready to go after like five or six holes, but that's my own that's my own that's my own doing um yeah, I mean to go after five or six holes.

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That's awesome it was, it was weird and in snob no, no, no, I do no.

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I just feel like, you know, I've seen pictures of it and there's great pictures out there of that place and it just didn't.

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It didn't.

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Those pictures didn't serve it well.

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I I had kind of higher expectations because of some of the pictures I've seen of that place and it just kind of was a letdown for me personally, you know it was.

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There's like three photo ops this yeah, it was kind of.

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It was just kind of boring.

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17th tee, 18th tee, that's about it?

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Did you guys get the?

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ledges up there, yeah, ledges is great.

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That's the front runner for next year.

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Yeah, I was going to say I would suggest that one because that one's a lot of fun.

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Yeah, that's the front runner for next year.

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How was it?

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Condition-wise, though?

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It was great.

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It was really good Really good.

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There was a couple squishy areas that weren't I mean like in front of number one green it was really wet.

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A couple other areas where it was soggy.

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There were some holes where they were doing like new French drains so it was tore up in a few spots.

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But I mean, I thought the greens were fantastic.

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The greens were really good yeah.

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They were very receptive.

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They rolled true, I, I don't I always forget find out what kind of grass it is, but, um, it's super easy to repair.

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I mean, your pitch marks were deep and you could fix it and it didn't look like anybody was there.

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So, considering a lot of uh, retired people play out there, oh, robbie nicks two and chiming in yeah, yeah, I'd agree with that.

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Back nine of ledges, love front nine, not so much.

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Yeah, I haven't played ledges yet, though, by the way, robbie that beard is a masterpiece.

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It really is Gorgeous About to be the Santa Claus at Galleria Mall this year For real, he is full mall Santa status.

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That's hilarious.

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Join that retired life in santa, uh yeah.

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So like joe said, uh definitely sky mountain kicked off the list of places to hold a tournament.

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It is, it is basically remember the meadows in Alabama.

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I wouldn't say that but I could see how that has.

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It.

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Has that similar vibe to it, for sure, yeah.

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It's just I mean if, if the nice ass houses you have to drive through to get to the golf course I mean you're driving.

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Those are some really sick properties, you know, multi-level, with the back view looking over the mountains, three car garages, rv garages, just I mean beautiful properties and they got a kind of a basic ass golf course built around it.

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So yeah, that that kind of.

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I think if they had like some more, like you know, more undulated greens, it could save that place.

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But you know it's already built so we can't we can't really do nothing about that currently, but I feel like if it it was a good golf course, but I think if the greens were more interesting, it it would save that place 100%, I think having to walk up a hill to almost every tee box was getting a little annoying too, Cause the, the yeah, the tee boxes are built up on the back nine, and I mean you got to park your car in the walk up hill and you know just, I mean it just gets a little bit done and after a while, yeah, totally, but it was.

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I mean there there's some.

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The back nine, I think, offers a lot more shot making than the front yeah front's kind of right out in front of you, except for a few holes, but the I mean, there's some good dog legs, there's some drivable holes for sure.

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Uh I know, I know that probably didn't help pace of play either.

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So no, exactly, thanks I mean there's three holes on the back that you can drive the green.

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I mean it's.

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I was.

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I was curious to see what julian and trey shot and trey got hurt, so that didn't help um matters.

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But uh, you know, overall I am, I'm.

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I told several people when we were there and I was chatting with people that you know we brought 48 people to st george from vegas to play tournament and they're like how?

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yeah, you know, you guys got such great golf there, what are you coming up up here for?

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And it's like oh, you know, we like to travel, so yeah, everybody's knee hold up.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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My, my, my banged up MRI proven damage.

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Knee is pain free, but my right knee now is all jacked up.

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Oh fuck, I got a bout of plantar fasciitis.

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That, uh, I think has swayed the way I walk and is is making my knee hurt so you should order some uh acupuncture like sandals on amazon, rob told me.

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Picture right up rob has an acupuncture mat yeah wow that he got and he says it's amazing for his.

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I've wanted to order one of those for a long time, but it looks like just lay on it, or you put it on your feet, or what do you do?

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it's, it's like a like a yoga mat you know, and bikes.

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It's got spikes all over it and it tells you where to lay.

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And he, he said it's funny because it's like, uh, the first five minutes you'll hate it.

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The next five minutes it gets a little better.

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The next five minutes it's funny because it's like the first five minutes you'll hate it.

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The next five minutes it gets a little better.

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The next five minutes it's okay.

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The last five minutes you don't want to get off.

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And he's like that's exactly what happened.

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I will say I have done actual, like real acupuncture before.

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Have any of you guys have done real acupuncture?

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I can tell you there is something to it.

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It feels like it opens the gates and it just allows the energy or blood just to flow easy throughout the body.

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And I was very surprised.

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I mean I've always been into like the you know, holistic, the holistic kind of medicine, kind of vibe.

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And when I had it done I think it it was I can't remember what I went for, but I literally she poked me with the needles and I felt like just like tension release and just like free-flowing.

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So there's something to acupuncture.

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I can but she stabbed me a little too hard in my knee and I was like I'm never fucking coming back here and coming back here.

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So, yeah, I was like I'm bleeding, I feel like I'm gonna pass out.

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You stabbed me way too hard like you were doing a good job up until this point and I'm never coming back I've, I've tried two, so get a good, get a good acupuncturist and you'll be cool I've tried two different inserts for the plantar fasciitis and neither one of them have worked.

00:16:08.586 --> 00:16:22.187
And then I've uh, I'm so susceptible to stuff ads on instagram and stuff that that one device, it's okay, you put on the bottom of your foot and then you pull and it stretches it doesn't stretch your calf muscle.

00:16:22.206 --> 00:16:24.600
It stretches the, the what needs to be stretched.

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And so I got that, and I've been doing that for a couple days, and it is.

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It doesn't stretch your calf muscle, it stretches the, the what needs to be stretched.

00:16:27.558 --> 00:16:28.884
And so I got that, and I've been doing that for a couple of days and it is so much better.

00:16:28.884 --> 00:16:35.471
So right now, it is the the front runner for the best Instagram promo fixture.

00:16:35.471 --> 00:16:40.307
That's the thing that's so crazy right now, the way the way social media is set up.

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You do a Google search for best device for plantar fasciitis and next thing, you know, I've got 75 ads for relieve your foot pain.

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Relieve your foot pain.

00:16:49.429 --> 00:16:50.732
It's like jesus christ, leave me alone.

00:16:50.732 --> 00:16:53.945
But yeah, it works.

00:16:53.945 --> 00:16:57.509
Yeah, so all right.

00:16:57.509 --> 00:16:59.832
So, uh, let's see the.

00:16:59.832 --> 00:17:01.274
Let me congratulate the winners.

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We had a first time winner and zach conrad yeah it's funny hey, joe we we played with uh, taylor frazilli.

00:17:09.247 --> 00:17:10.229
What the hell does he say his name?

00:17:10.809 --> 00:17:12.534
oh, he played, oh, out at black.

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Where did you play with him?

00:17:13.663 --> 00:17:16.930
he joined us at sky mountain oh okay, cool yeah um.

00:17:16.930 --> 00:17:22.390
So he played with me and zach uh and he's a caddy, a caddy, a black desert.

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That's why I was like, yeah, he's a caddy of that desert, uh and uh.

00:17:26.262 --> 00:17:28.025
after the round he's like good luck at Black Desert.

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That's what I was like.

00:17:28.605 --> 00:17:31.589
Yeah, he's a caddy at Black Desert, and after the round he's like good luck guys.

00:17:31.589 --> 00:17:33.010
Hope this worked out for you.

00:17:33.010 --> 00:17:33.711
Go get the win tomorrow.

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So I sent him a picture of the leaderboard, you know, and he was like, yeah, so he was really happy for us.

00:17:38.518 --> 00:17:42.509
But I tell you, had Zach and I not played that practice?

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round, we probably would not have won because knowing, yeah, there was a few out there, you needed to know.

00:17:45.357 --> 00:17:46.560
Yeah, a hundred percent, what was that?

00:17:46.560 --> 00:17:47.123
What was that?

00:17:47.284 --> 00:17:54.041
seven, six, six, that par, five, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, and I still got almost got in trouble on that hole.

00:17:54.041 --> 00:18:01.942
God, yeah, um yeah, because the dog leg, you think it dog legs and it doesn't dog leg as much as you think it doglegs.

00:18:02.403 --> 00:18:07.353
Well, I was right and I was like I think those trees must be where the green is.

00:18:07.353 --> 00:18:13.653
So I aimed at the trees and they were not anywhere in line with the green.

00:18:13.653 --> 00:18:23.703
So, yeah, I took a triple there, I think let's see A legal drop a legal drop triple.

00:18:23.703 --> 00:18:24.767
Allegedly Joe's a cheater, I heard.

00:18:24.767 --> 00:18:25.127
Let's see.

00:18:25.147 --> 00:18:27.432
And then oh yeah, Illegal drop, Illegal drop, triple.

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Supposedly Allegedly Joe's a cheater.

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I heard we got cheater warnings going on.

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See, I won the Spades Division, Yay me.

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Good job, Matt.

00:18:36.906 --> 00:18:40.352
Thank you Thank you, chris Scraff.

00:18:41.733 --> 00:18:43.095
I messed up his name so much.

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He won the Hearts Division and then Pierce Hollander got his second win.

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So now he is not somebody that can compete with the Hearts, so he'll be the low net in clubs for the rest of the year.

00:18:56.690 --> 00:18:58.415
So congrats.

00:18:58.415 --> 00:18:58.936
Well done, fellas.

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Congrats to everybody for that.

00:19:01.007 --> 00:19:04.530
The next event is at Coyote Springs.

00:19:04.530 --> 00:19:06.243
Dan, are you still playing?

00:19:06.243 --> 00:19:12.589
Yeah, I'm in okay joe's not jeremy was wasn't then he was, but he's not now.

00:19:12.630 --> 00:19:18.064
He is um I think I is sean row wasn't, but now he is.

00:19:18.263 --> 00:19:22.080
And then I've had so many people tell me they're not playing, they are playing, they're not playing.

00:19:22.080 --> 00:19:24.645
So right now we have 68 players in the field.

00:19:24.645 --> 00:19:36.865
So I I really thought this was going to be a, you know, 10 person waiting list event, but uh, I've got 33 players that aren't playing.

00:19:36.865 --> 00:19:41.690
So I don't know, I don't know.

00:19:42.010 --> 00:19:43.913
Yeah, I wish you could make it.

00:19:45.253 --> 00:19:45.555
What's that?

00:19:45.934 --> 00:19:47.256
Isn't it a major, oh yeah.

00:19:50.203 --> 00:19:52.650
We got the card like we had at Reflection.

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Bay for the trophy.

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I need some points.

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Yeah, I can't make it.

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Yeah, you're, I'm sold off.

00:20:00.948 --> 00:20:01.913
Are you going to be in New York?

00:20:01.932 --> 00:20:03.861
Joe, yes, are you?

00:20:03.882 --> 00:20:04.523
going to be in.

00:20:04.544 --> 00:20:08.101
Bethpage, I'll be sleeping in a Honda CRV in the parking lot of.

00:20:08.161 --> 00:20:11.095
Bethpage Black are you going to do it really?

00:20:11.095 --> 00:20:11.859
Crv talks.

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I rented a car for that night so I can sleep in the parking lot.

00:20:15.289 --> 00:20:17.794
I love it.

00:20:17.794 --> 00:20:18.917
I love it.

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You can't just dummy up in a sleeping bag and lay in the parking lot.

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I feel like I don't know.

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I mean, have you ever tried to ride a skateboard through a drive-thru at mcdonald's?

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They don't like that.

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So yeah I figured you should.

00:20:31.022 --> 00:20:38.344
I should probably have a car, just in case you know good call yeah, um, but yeah, I I.

00:20:38.344 --> 00:20:54.646
My only big thing is is like, do I really check my clubs from LaGuardia to the train, to Beth page and then Airbnb, and then and then on the last and then on the last day because we don't leave till like 6.

00:20:54.707 --> 00:21:02.450
PM and we check out do I lug my clubs throughout the city of New York for seven hours behind me with my suitcase.

00:21:02.569 --> 00:21:04.513
So hey, that's great content.

00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:06.105
Like like are we're?

00:21:06.105 --> 00:21:06.686
Sticking home.

00:21:06.686 --> 00:21:08.086
Are we talking, manhattan?

00:21:08.086 --> 00:21:09.090
Are we, are you talking?

00:21:09.090 --> 00:21:09.250
Well?

00:21:09.270 --> 00:21:11.059
we're staying in long island like we're paying.

00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:18.741
We're staying north of beth page, so um I don't know not like lugging them through the city you're, but we'll.

00:21:18.821 --> 00:21:43.432
We'll have to go to the city the final day and you know to get close to la guardia and I'm sure we'll hit some food spots that you probably have to walk through, like a tiny little hallway with seats, and I got a fucking big old travel bag with me but I cannot after beth page yeah, I was thinking about that, so we'll see, but um I'm sure they got these clubs there shipping receipt from beth page I mean come on.

00:21:44.032 --> 00:21:46.458
Yeah, but currently that is the plan.

00:21:46.458 --> 00:21:49.544
Uh, the plan is not set in stone.

00:21:49.544 --> 00:21:54.632
If I play mine or some taylor made m4s is that their?

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Uh, I don't know I had assumed something like taylor made stealths or something like m4 go, go, look on the website.

00:22:01.019 --> 00:22:04.188
They probably tell you what rental sets they have yeah, yeah, I was going to call them.

00:22:04.268 --> 00:22:09.968
When I did that out at Orange County National, they had shriks on cavity backs.

00:22:09.968 --> 00:22:12.286
That's cool, I could do that.

00:22:12.286 --> 00:22:15.486
I played at.

00:22:15.566 --> 00:22:16.028
Cthulhu.

00:22:16.028 --> 00:22:17.546
They had Titleist.

00:22:17.546 --> 00:22:18.942
Are they AP4s?

00:22:18.942 --> 00:22:19.644
Is that right, jeremy?

00:22:19.644 --> 00:22:22.271
Ap2s, ap2s.

00:22:22.271 --> 00:22:29.680
And then at Makai they had the rogue irons, though it was a callaway rogue set.

00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:38.791
And then at kona, they had a mixed bag of tailor-made stealth.

00:22:38.791 --> 00:22:40.653
Oh god, it was bad.

00:22:40.653 --> 00:22:41.915
It was bad.

00:22:41.980 --> 00:22:51.086
Those were shovels that's the thing I mean, you like, for like you're going to play Beth page, beth page black and they're playing the Ryder cup there next year.

00:22:51.086 --> 00:23:01.366
Like I don't want to play something I don't want to play, you know, I want to be able to relate to it and, um, you know, compare it to what I did out there, you know, to what I actually play to what I actually play.

00:23:01.686 --> 00:23:02.628
Bring them and just ship them back.

00:23:02.628 --> 00:23:03.951
That's why you take your clubs, brother.

00:23:04.010 --> 00:23:05.814
Yeah, I think I might ship stick some back.

00:23:05.814 --> 00:23:10.626
How many days are you there afterwards?

00:23:10.626 --> 00:23:14.134
I'm planning on playing Black on Saturday.

00:23:15.660 --> 00:23:17.523
We come home on Monday.

00:23:17.523 --> 00:23:20.351
Just three days, oh, they won't ship, probably until Monday anyways.

00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.963
Yeah, I mean I don't think I'll need them, that bad, bad.

00:23:27.963 --> 00:23:29.146
I mean it's going to take a few days and whatever.

00:23:29.146 --> 00:23:30.852
So we'll see you're not going to play mitch's.

00:23:30.852 --> 00:23:34.503
Either are you, I know, I want to play mitch's, I want to.

00:23:34.503 --> 00:23:36.348
Yeah, what is that?

00:23:36.348 --> 00:23:37.632
That's that we?

00:23:37.632 --> 00:23:50.607
Can after that, yeah, 28th, I think yep, yeah, no, I want to play mitch's, of course, because I missed it last year, so um but yeah a big, big, big checklist, so hopefully I can get it done with my clubs.

00:23:51.490 --> 00:23:56.676
Yeah, yeah, that would be I mean hey and anybody that's up there and you can book a tea time, I'll play with you.

00:23:56.676 --> 00:23:57.560
I'm down to play with you.

00:23:57.560 --> 00:23:59.404
If you book the tea time, I'm in.

00:23:59.404 --> 00:24:06.009
Just anybody that listens up there or if you know somebody that lives up there that wants to play I actually do so.

00:24:06.148 --> 00:24:14.769
I will reach out to them so you know what you could do to sleep in a car overnight, but that's one of the best experiences he's ever had.

00:24:14.769 --> 00:24:22.740
Was just like camping out to play there, because there's a bunch of people like playing parking lot putter, golf and barbecuing and stuff like that.

00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:23.804
So it does sound fun.

00:24:24.968 --> 00:24:36.852
Go ahead, dan sorry um, I was gonna say, there are some like actual golf club rental companies that are probably out there too oh true, yeah, you can just rent a set and then drop it off to them when you're done.

00:24:36.852 --> 00:24:50.424
Yeah, you know, if you don't want to take your clubs subpar gets you 20 off of what uh uh shipsticks beds I'm assuming taylor made, taylor made clubs or travis matthew clubs.

00:24:50.444 --> 00:24:51.288
Is that what you're trying to say?

00:24:52.614 --> 00:24:52.914
how much?

00:24:53.016 --> 00:24:54.039
is shipsticks usually.

00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:55.644
Well, it's 80 from.

00:24:55.644 --> 00:25:00.240
It was 80 from banded when we did it, so I'd assume it'd be probably 120.

00:25:01.843 --> 00:25:04.409
Well, nowadays you never know, shit's so damn.

00:25:05.109 --> 00:25:06.472
As we did that like three years ago.

00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:07.582
Oh, there you go.

00:25:07.582 --> 00:25:08.767
Subpar gets you 20% off.

00:25:11.326 --> 00:25:11.528
Thanks.

00:25:11.729 --> 00:25:14.327
Beds, beds always hooks to that, always with the hookups.

00:25:16.501 --> 00:25:16.762
Shout out.

00:25:16.782 --> 00:25:19.371
Travis, Matthew Shout out Beds.

00:25:20.220 --> 00:25:24.028
One of the last things on the VGN that I'll talk about today.

00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:36.893
Before you do this, we should just make a chasing daylight podcast shirt that says shout out bids I, I, uh, I've been working.

00:25:37.153 --> 00:25:40.759
Uh, roars said uh, he walked into the pro shop the other day.

00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.541
He hadn't seen everybody in a while and he walked in.

00:25:42.541 --> 00:25:43.824
He was like what is up?

00:25:43.824 --> 00:25:44.545
Everybody?

00:25:44.605 --> 00:25:46.087
and he's like oh, wait a minute.

00:25:46.087 --> 00:25:46.949
Where did I hear that from?

00:25:49.113 --> 00:25:50.900
so I love it that's what I got the.

00:25:51.020 --> 00:25:58.853
Uh, I got the that going he said I can make that happen, love it do it.

00:25:58.894 --> 00:25:59.714
Let's do it, doc.

00:25:59.714 --> 00:26:00.842
Call, text me tomorrow.

00:26:00.842 --> 00:26:01.442
We'll make it happen.

00:26:01.442 --> 00:26:04.587
Uh, oh, that's hilarious, okay.

00:26:04.587 --> 00:26:08.394
So last thing on VGN that I'll say.

00:26:08.394 --> 00:26:12.050
We announced this today to all the VGN members.

00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:16.047
Check your emails if you didn't but we are starting.

00:26:16.781 --> 00:26:18.559
This is something that I've wanted to do for a couple years.

00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.528
We tried to do it with the Double Park group.

00:26:20.528 --> 00:26:23.809
Didn't really work out as well as I thought it would have.

00:26:23.809 --> 00:26:25.945
Rob was a part of that.

00:26:25.945 --> 00:26:31.009
He's back with the vgn and and he wants to do what we're doing now.

00:26:31.009 --> 00:26:40.063
And uh, came, I didn't like social, vg and social and uh, I didn't like vgn skins because we're going to be doing more than just skins games, um.

00:26:40.063 --> 00:26:43.127
So I we're calling it vgn players.

00:26:43.669 --> 00:26:43.709
It.

00:26:43.709 --> 00:26:50.529
It's another branch off of the Vegas Golf Network, so we're going to have the VGN Tour, which is our tournament golf.

00:26:50.529 --> 00:26:52.926
Nothing about that is going to change.

00:26:52.926 --> 00:26:58.549
Everything will stay exactly the same with that, but this is going to be open to more players.

00:26:58.549 --> 00:27:08.484
We'll be sending invites out to other groups that we know that may want to come join us for outings, out to other groups that we know that may want to come join us for outings, um.

00:27:08.484 --> 00:27:30.209
So vgm players will be, um, social outings, you know, not really, uh, anything to do with a point series or anything like that, but we'll have, you know, scramble events, two-man events, writer cup style events, nine hole events, walking events, um, you know, nights at top golf or or Popstroke, just other outings that are outside the realms of competitive golf as far as a points series goes.

00:27:30.209 --> 00:27:32.528
So we're really excited about that.

00:27:32.528 --> 00:27:34.487
More information will be coming out soon.

00:27:35.019 --> 00:27:37.708
Vgm members, if you are listening, check your email.

00:27:37.708 --> 00:27:38.711
It's on Discord.

00:27:38.711 --> 00:27:53.050
And the first thing that we're doing is, 9-15, september 15th, coyote Springs, a little pre-tourney round out there, and then we have the Dragon Ridge event on October 7th.

00:27:53.050 --> 00:28:00.330
So those are two of the things we have planned right now and we're already in the works discussing other places.

00:28:00.330 --> 00:28:05.913
Kat is helping us out, making connections with courses and getting things set up.

00:28:05.913 --> 00:28:10.030
So these are going to be regular things that take place outside tournament days.

00:28:10.030 --> 00:28:26.821
So if there's a tournament schedule, clearly we won't have a VGM players event, but, uh, outside tournament days, we're going to try to have something, hopefully every week, as an option for people that, uh, you know, hey, if you miss a tournament, a tournament, but you still want to hang out with everybody you don't want to wait another month?

00:28:26.821 --> 00:28:34.780
Here's an opportunity to do it, so looking forward to that, yeah that'll be great.

00:28:35.061 --> 00:28:41.584
Yeah, and if we can get some new players to check out VGM Players and they like it, maybe they'll join the tour and you know, it all kind of works together.

00:28:41.584 --> 00:28:54.407
But really expanding on the network side of the Vegas Golf Network, instead of just being a one-show pony now we're going to have some more options to bring in guys that, hey, I don't have a handicap but I like playing.

00:28:54.407 --> 00:28:58.550
Okay, come on out what Joe?

00:29:00.561 --> 00:29:19.960
No, I just Dan's watching the Instagram and I waved at him on instagram okay, uh, let's take a quick break and we will be right back join the las vegas golf superstore.

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Hey, hey, came with 300 points too nice, okay, um, I did not watch, but maybe 10 minutes of the pga tour this past weekend I was gone.

00:30:10.035 --> 00:30:12.424
I was on the road saturday, it's on the road sunday.

00:30:12.424 --> 00:30:16.000
Playing golf saturday and sunday came home crashed hard.

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:33.092
Um heard the day after that keegan won yeah, when I when I saw the post, that he has more wins than ricky speith jt combined fowler, which uh is wild uh yeah, oh yeah, he was in that too.

00:30:33.211 --> 00:30:35.401
They're picking on all the big boys, um.

00:30:35.401 --> 00:30:46.094
So the east lake is here, the tour championship is here and, like like Joe said earlier, it's been refurbished.

00:30:47.335 --> 00:30:47.576
Yeah.

00:30:47.596 --> 00:30:48.296
At some points.

00:30:48.296 --> 00:30:50.627
The 15th hole I saw a video on it today.

00:30:50.627 --> 00:31:03.181
They got some 3D imagery and some aerial clips from when Donald Ross originally built the place and they're trying to go back to that Hopefully.

00:31:03.521 --> 00:31:09.763
you know it's a little bit better TV product and did you see uh victor's um press conference where he's talking about it?

00:31:11.630 --> 00:31:14.819
what he was like he was saying it's definitely harder.

00:31:14.819 --> 00:31:17.767
It was hard for him to predict a score.

00:31:17.767 --> 00:31:23.949
He's like there's some pins out there where you know it's just hard to predict.

00:31:23.949 --> 00:31:27.799
He was like looking at pin locations and says definitely longer.

00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.770
So it's going to be interesting because it's going to be a different golf course.

00:31:32.441 --> 00:31:41.971
I mean, I looked at the Golf Digest article today or yesterday and some of the explanations of what they did on certain holes.

00:31:41.971 --> 00:31:45.842
They didn't have every hole but uh, yeah, it's gonna look different.

00:31:45.842 --> 00:31:51.923
There's no bunker on the island green anymore, so and that was one of the first island greens in america.

00:31:51.923 --> 00:31:53.871
So, yeah, it's gonna be interesting.

00:31:53.871 --> 00:31:57.480
And they on that island green specifically, they took out the back.

00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.444
There's like a runoff so it looks like you're just dead back there.

00:32:00.585 --> 00:32:08.414
So I'm, I'm, I wish there was more of a hunt for the, the championship.

00:32:08.414 --> 00:32:10.824
I mean we got like a two man battle going on.

00:32:10.824 --> 00:32:19.105
But uh, I think in the future, for future years, it's gonna, it's gonna prove well for the, the restoration and the redo.

00:32:19.105 --> 00:32:21.830
Um, but it's I, I think it's gonna be cool to see.

00:32:21.830 --> 00:32:33.186
I mean, I think it's gonna be cool to see because we mean I think it's going to be cool to see because we're going to see a different product, different golf course and according to Victor Hovland, it is harder and it's different and it's longer.

00:32:33.186 --> 00:32:36.518
We'll see they're going to get Rossed.

00:32:37.140 --> 00:32:38.224
They're going to get Rossed.

00:32:38.980 --> 00:32:40.266
Get your ass Rossed.

00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:46.509
All right, so is Xander going to pull up the upset.

00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:54.303
I mean, that's pretty much I mean I'm going zander all day of course I know you love, you love him at east lake at east lake.

00:32:54.303 --> 00:32:55.086
I mean, it's different.

00:32:55.086 --> 00:33:01.666
It's a different golf course now, though, so um how quickly him and austin adapt to it I should have.

00:33:02.307 --> 00:33:04.430
I didn't even look to see what the?

00:33:04.430 --> 00:33:08.115
Um the leaderboard looks like.

00:33:08.115 --> 00:33:09.521
Let's see.

00:33:09.521 --> 00:33:10.182
So you got.

00:33:10.182 --> 00:33:13.229
Oh, let's, they should have it up already.

00:33:13.229 --> 00:33:13.750
Let's see.

00:33:13.750 --> 00:33:26.090
So scheffler is at 10, under zander's at eight, under hadeki's at seven, under keegan's at six, ludwig's at five, sam burns, patrick cantley, colin marukawa, wyndham Clark, rory are at four.

00:33:26.090 --> 00:33:32.867
Tony Finau, shane Lowry, adam Scott, sungjae M Saheeth, digala are at three.

00:33:32.867 --> 00:33:34.266
Everybody else is at two.

00:33:35.140 --> 00:33:38.204
Tony's played great at Eastlake too, if I remember correctly.

00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.623
So seven shots, they said.

00:33:40.623 --> 00:33:41.486
What did they say?

00:33:41.486 --> 00:33:42.663
Like five is the most.

00:33:42.663 --> 00:33:44.508
Anybody's come back in this format.

00:33:45.851 --> 00:33:46.172
Yeah.

00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:50.906
Which the format's fairly new.

00:33:50.968 --> 00:33:59.532
so yeah, I mean it hasn't been around a while since they've been doing this, but I think two shots he played.

00:33:59.532 --> 00:34:07.152
Scotty Scheffler played so much better for the year to go into the final tournament with a two-stroke lead.

00:34:08.981 --> 00:34:12.150
Yeah, I mean, that's a conundrum that nobody will ever figure out.

00:34:12.150 --> 00:34:13.965
I mean the season-long race.

00:34:14.099 --> 00:34:15.184
They're going to figure it out somehow.

00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:16.804
I figured it out last week.

00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.047
So if I can do it, they can do it.

00:34:19.740 --> 00:34:23.822
I feel like Xander feels so comfortable out there because he has won it before.

00:34:23.822 --> 00:34:36.644
Scotty hasn't won no so I feel like, uh, and xander just feels comfort with that place, even though it's changed.

00:34:36.644 --> 00:34:41.161
So I got I'd take xander all day over scotty, even though scotty has played a better year, for sure.

00:34:41.161 --> 00:34:48.954
But I think, I think there's just something special out there that xander appreciates now scotty played a better year.

00:34:50.177 --> 00:34:56.251
I mean I know he's finished well, but yeah six wins in a major that's true.

00:34:56.271 --> 00:35:04.670
Yeah, I mean it yeah I mean the majors augusta yeah, yeah, but shoffley's got two of those two.

00:35:04.831 --> 00:35:07.615
He's got two of those majors yeah I don't know.

00:35:07.615 --> 00:35:11.864
I don't know how many times he's won this year, though Just those two.

00:35:13.213 --> 00:35:13.737
Just those two.

00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:21.860
But I think his first major really unlocked something in him and now it's like the weight is off his shoulders.

00:35:21.860 --> 00:35:25.956
He's a full-on dog.

00:35:25.956 --> 00:35:36.101
Now he's not concerned necessarily about the media, or even his interview the other week where it was about money.

00:35:36.101 --> 00:35:41.278
He's like no, I'm going out there to win, the money's not going to change my life is what he said.

00:35:41.278 --> 00:35:46.298
Basically he said the money will be nice, but we're out here to win the tournament.

00:35:46.298 --> 00:35:54.599
I think that first major took a huge weight off of his shoulder and now he knows he can do it and now he can just full steam ahead.

00:35:55.240 --> 00:35:55.442
Yeah.

00:35:56.951 --> 00:35:58.235
Scheffler won the gold medal too.

00:35:58.898 --> 00:36:00.916
Oh, yeah, yeah that's true.

00:36:01.269 --> 00:36:05.355
There's another feather in the hat and he set a course record when he won it.

00:36:05.655 --> 00:36:05.916
Yeah.

00:36:05.956 --> 00:36:06.237
Yeah.

00:36:08.070 --> 00:36:14.882
I mean, when he turns it on, it's like, maybe this is you know.

00:36:14.882 --> 00:36:22.583
I would love to see him just come out and light it up and shoot 10 under the first day and be 20 under after day one, and you know.

00:36:22.583 --> 00:36:28.146
Just just be like look, I'm the best golfer in the world, okay he's gotta win.

00:36:28.286 --> 00:36:29.208
He's gotta win what?

00:36:29.208 --> 00:36:33.474
50, 60 million dollars this year with the fedex cup, if he, if he, wins the fedex cup money.

00:36:33.474 --> 00:36:41.860
Yeah, insane amount of money that's fucking ridiculous, insane amount yeah yeah well, ted scott's on the money list yeah, he's like

00:36:41.900 --> 00:36:45.878
yeah yeah, I saw that right yeah, his 10 percent.

00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:48.748
Yeah, two point five million, I think something like that.

00:36:48.788 --> 00:36:51.317
Yeah, that's great you know, scott, he's given him more than 10%.

00:36:51.918 --> 00:36:56.159
Yeah, plus whatever Ted Scott gets, because those guys get sponsored too.

00:36:56.601 --> 00:36:59.458
Yeah and hat deals shoe deals and shit too.

00:36:59.458 --> 00:37:01.938
Adam says X-Man wins and takes Player of the Year award.

00:37:01.938 --> 00:37:08.577
Scott, he doesn't care about this format and played very average this past week A lot of people played average this week though.

00:37:09.170 --> 00:37:13.719
Yeah, I mean, that was an unusual course for them.

00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:28.083
Yeah, you know, going to Pinehurst playing a restored Ross in its original conditions, with crazy green complexes that they don't used to see, it's very challenging.

00:37:28.083 --> 00:37:40.601
And then now you take these guys, throw them at 6,000 feet crazy long distances, yardage and thick, rough in the thin air During a playoff, it's you know it was different, it's different.

00:37:40.601 --> 00:37:46.213
Oh, Robbie's calling it Scotty Meltdown.

00:37:46.213 --> 00:37:49.702
Yeah I think so.

00:37:50.512 --> 00:37:53.197
I see that I do see that I think Rory's going to get his fourth.

00:37:53.197 --> 00:37:53.940
What, yeah, I?

00:37:53.961 --> 00:37:54.121
think so.

00:37:54.121 --> 00:37:54.342
I see that.

00:37:54.362 --> 00:37:55.429
I think Rory's going to get his fourth.

00:37:55.449 --> 00:37:55.670
What yeah?

00:37:56.150 --> 00:37:57.333
You think he's going to come back.

00:37:57.333 --> 00:38:01.478
He's going to come back, he's six back, but he's coming back.

00:38:01.478 --> 00:38:06.980
Yeah, four under yeah, I mean never, say never.

00:38:07.681 --> 00:38:07.902
Yeah.

00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:11.697
They're going to rename the FedEx Cup.

00:38:14.103 --> 00:38:14.505
The Rory.

00:38:14.585 --> 00:38:15.088
Cup.

00:38:15.108 --> 00:38:27.766
Yeah, slotsky's Cup, slotsky's Deli uh, uh, oh, jeremy has been smoking, according to Adam yeah should have seen him at night.

00:38:27.786 --> 00:38:28.550
Golf on Bandon.

00:38:28.550 --> 00:38:30.315
Yeah, we want Kermit Hammered played the fifth.

00:38:30.315 --> 00:38:33.322
Played the fifth, should have seen him at night golf on.

00:38:33.322 --> 00:38:34.146
Bandon, yeah, permahammered.

00:38:35.871 --> 00:38:37.856
Played the fifth Speaking of.

00:38:37.856 --> 00:38:38.157
Jeremy.

00:38:38.157 --> 00:38:39.239
You have a new pool, sir.

00:38:41.353 --> 00:38:41.695
I do when is?

00:38:41.735 --> 00:38:42.958
the CDP pool party.

00:38:42.958 --> 00:38:44.934
Have we picked a date?

00:38:44.934 --> 00:38:45.878
Is that after Mitch's?

00:38:45.878 --> 00:38:47.074
Are we going straight to your house?

00:38:48.092 --> 00:38:51.175
I think so we got to have the putting green in first.

00:38:52.077 --> 00:38:52.559
Oh, okay.

00:38:52.679 --> 00:39:00.623
Yeah, it's very odd seeing a pool in the backyard.

00:39:00.710 --> 00:39:03.938
I'm going to absolutely snap his driver and soft off his feet.

00:39:05.552 --> 00:39:06.155
I hope not.

00:39:07.931 --> 00:39:08.855
Have you gone in the pool yet?

00:39:09.838 --> 00:39:21.181
Yeah, I've been scrubbing the pool pebble tech religiously and both of our dogs have fallen in already and Zebby.

00:39:21.181 --> 00:39:22.576
I can't keep him out of it.

00:39:22.576 --> 00:39:27.097
He's been sitting on the steps waiting for me to say it's okay to go in.

00:39:27.811 --> 00:39:30.099
Next week, Jeremy's going to be live from the hot tub.

00:39:30.969 --> 00:39:37.614
Yeah, pretty much pretty much, oh, man yeah it looks so good.

00:39:37.675 --> 00:39:41.862
Yeah, hot tub talks yeah, but I do have to give a shout.

00:39:41.862 --> 00:39:59.981
I know he's not a official sponsor of the podcast, but dan foster with exterior creations awesome are they doing your putting green too um, they have a contractor, like it's landscaping crew, that does it, so yeah, nice, nice yep they're.

00:40:00.061 --> 00:40:08.710
They're awesome to work with okay, so putting segue, that's a good, that's a good putting segue yeah um, so, uh, I did not bring the jail.

00:40:08.831 --> 00:40:12.280
I brought the jailbird to utah, but I did not take it out of the car.

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:20.159
I putted with Scotty out there, yeah, and I putted pretty well with it.

00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.036
I was pretty happy.

00:40:22.036 --> 00:40:25.777
So a couple things happened.

00:40:25.777 --> 00:40:29.818
First thing that happened was my golf spot.

00:40:29.818 --> 00:40:38.862
I put out a thing that said the top 10 best golf podcasts, and so I was like, oh, I can't wait to go there and see them listed their podcast as number one.

00:40:38.862 --> 00:40:52.096
It was clickbait, but I know they have a huge following, and so I was curious to see how they were viewing the top podcast, and so some of them.

00:40:52.155 --> 00:41:06.451
I had heard of Um, and then I didn't realize that John Sherman from practical golf is doing a podcast and he does it with Adam Young, who is an instructor that I found out is based in Vegas, and uh, so I started listening to a couple of their episodes.

00:41:06.451 --> 00:41:13.184
First one I listened to was when they had Joe Mayo on, and Joe Mayo used to teach out here.

00:41:13.184 --> 00:41:15.956
He's in Tennessee a lot, he travels all around.

00:41:15.956 --> 00:41:36.201
He's most notably known as being Victor Hovland's savior for fixing his short game and then getting fired and then coming back, and he's kind of a lot to take in, but I listened to it and what I loved about it is it is so numbers-driven.

00:41:36.201 --> 00:41:42.842
His ideology it is data track man, stats-backed data.

00:41:42.842 --> 00:41:54.876
It's not feel, it's not touchy, it's not the old mentality of Wedge Play, it's like these are the numbers, this is happening because you're doing this, that's it.

00:41:54.876 --> 00:41:59.592
And that kind of resonates with me when you talk in numbers.

00:41:59.592 --> 00:42:11.159
And so I was outside, had the beats on and was just chipping while I was listening to the show and, uh, adam and John are fantastic at what they do.

00:42:11.581 --> 00:42:14.045
This is a big shout-out to another golf podcast.

00:42:14.045 --> 00:42:16.737
The episode was great.

00:42:16.737 --> 00:42:26.860
Joe's information was amazing, and so I started tinkering with it in the backyard with some of my wedges, and I will tell you, it works.

00:42:26.860 --> 00:42:36.996
It's a unique philosophy, it's a unique way of chipping, but, man, it works.

00:42:36.996 --> 00:42:39.239
But it takes practice and it takes a lot of work.

00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:56.856
I didn't fully implement it all out at Sky Mountain, but a lot of the shots I did, my chipping probably was the best it's ever been as far as tournament play, um, on a course that I wasn't familiar with.

00:42:56.856 --> 00:42:58.539
So, uh, that was exciting.

00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:00.929
And then I listened to another episode on the way up there.

00:43:00.929 --> 00:43:03.175
Uh, with preston combs.

00:43:03.175 --> 00:43:09.393
Uh, his ig handle is preston's putting, which I'll put all these in the show notes for everybody to link on if they want.

00:43:09.393 --> 00:43:12.121
And he is a putting guru.

00:43:12.121 --> 00:43:18.639
That is another data science numbers driven uh person.

00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:29.440
And that, like hit home with me because I I've based on the data that I collect from the clipped app that I you track all my stats on.

00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.001
I'm not a bad putter.

00:43:31.523 --> 00:43:32.364
I'm not a bad putter.

00:43:32.364 --> 00:43:36.757
Um, I, I think I could be better and uh, so I.

00:43:36.757 --> 00:43:38.541
That's one of the reasons I'm always tinkering with stuff.

00:43:38.541 --> 00:43:43.101
It's it's not because I'm trying to fix something, it's I'm trying to get better at something.

00:43:44.311 --> 00:44:12.282
And he had an excellent uh way of explaining his, his teaching methods and his you know what his workshops do, and and uh, I I was really impressed and so I I kept in my, in my mind his uh warmup routine for putting and I did that during the practice round and I did it uh for the tournament on Sunday and I never felt more confident with a putter in my life.

00:44:12.282 --> 00:44:16.277
I had 31 putts and that was with a chip in.

00:44:16.277 --> 00:44:29.376
So you know, it wasn't the best putting performance that I've had, but I never felt more confident and it was such a relief getting that off my shoulders not, you know, stressing standing over a putt.

00:44:29.376 --> 00:44:36.358
I was like this is going in and I was all over, though I mean I was my distance and my speed control.

00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:38.041
It was brilliant.

00:44:38.041 --> 00:44:39.952
The putts just weren't dropping and you know that happens.

00:44:39.952 --> 00:44:42.960
So I would encourage anybody.

00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:54.505
If you are I mean, if you're listening to us you're a total golf nerd, so you get that and you know, uh, jeremy is a damn good player and he's a feel player likes number somewhat.

00:44:54.505 --> 00:45:01.641
Dan, I know you could care less about stats, you just you like playing, and Joe's a soul golfer that doesn't even know what a stat is.

00:45:02.184 --> 00:45:03.005
So, the.

00:45:03.427 --> 00:45:07.911
You know it's hard for me to talk about this stuff with these guys sometimes because I know what stats are.

00:45:07.911 --> 00:45:09.172
I know I'm just fucking with you.

00:45:09.172 --> 00:45:11.076
I know what stats are.

00:45:11.255 --> 00:45:26.862
I know, I'm just fucking with you, but if you're somebody that is a number cruncher and a data geek, I highly encourage you to go listen to those two episodes and then also check out some of the other stuff, because they both are authors.

00:45:26.862 --> 00:45:29.119
They both have books in the top 10 on Amazon.

00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:34.641
They have a tremendous amount of history with the game and knowledge with the game.

00:45:34.641 --> 00:45:37.038
I need to find out where Adam is teaching.

00:45:37.038 --> 00:45:39.498
I can't wait to go and meet him and talk with him.

00:45:39.498 --> 00:45:42.617
It would be a great thing to get him on the show.

00:45:42.617 --> 00:45:52.664
And then I was chatting with Preston and he says that he is trying to set up a putting class here in Vegas in the fall.

00:45:52.664 --> 00:45:58.498
So as soon as I find out about that, I'll be telling everybody about that because I am 100% going to go to that.

00:45:58.498 --> 00:46:12.460
So that is one of the reasons I feel I played so well out there at Sky Mountain was because I didn't have the best iron day, but around the greens and putting it was fantastic.

00:46:14.271 --> 00:46:19.014
So just curious on this uh list of top golf podcasts, where were we at?

00:46:19.815 --> 00:46:22.800
Uh, oh yeah, we, we weren't we didn't make it.

00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:23.342
We didn't.

00:46:23.342 --> 00:46:25.164
We weren't on the list we weren't on the list.

00:46:25.289 --> 00:46:25.831
That's fucking.

00:46:25.831 --> 00:46:29.097
Bullshit is bullshit I agree 100.

00:46:29.396 --> 00:46:30.438
We will get there one day.

00:46:30.438 --> 00:46:35.628
We will, but yeah, but uh, yeah, it's so.

00:46:35.628 --> 00:46:37.152
Their podcast is called the sweet spot.

00:46:37.152 --> 00:46:40.320
Um, they come out with new episodes uh, frequently.

00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:49.469
Uh, this last one that I listened to, they were um, they were talking about um, oh, what was the last one about?

00:46:49.469 --> 00:46:51.215
Yeah, I still need to go back and listen to that.

00:46:51.416 --> 00:46:52.250
I know you sent it to me.

00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:54.034
I haven't the the male.

00:46:54.213 --> 00:46:56.358
The male one is absolutely fantastic.

00:46:56.358 --> 00:46:59.831
Um, the the putting one with with preston.

00:46:59.831 --> 00:47:10.943
Uh, if you're not into putting and and wanting to dig into the nuances of that, it may be a snoozer.

00:47:10.943 --> 00:47:18.538
Um, so their last episode was titled when to intervene in your rounds and using technology responsibly.

00:47:18.538 --> 00:47:22.128
Um, which it was amazing.

00:47:22.128 --> 00:47:24.130
Talking about, you know, hey, are you?

00:47:24.130 --> 00:47:31.599
Are you using tech just to use tech, or actually are you using it in some way to?

00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.364
Make you better at the game and it was.

00:47:35.644 --> 00:47:37.954
it was very interesting, I mean it's, it's great golf talk.

00:47:38.291 --> 00:47:41.195
I sent John a message and I'm like dude, I'm so glad I found your show.

00:47:41.195 --> 00:47:49.318
I'm a total golf nerd and like this is like golf content that I've I'm craving, so it's a it's an excellent listen.

00:47:50.699 --> 00:47:52.501
Excellent, so it's an excellent listen cool.

00:47:54.784 --> 00:47:56.146
That's all I got for this week.

00:47:56.146 --> 00:47:57.793
You guys got anything else you want to chat about?

00:47:57.793 --> 00:47:59.739
You want you guys want to you know what we could do.

00:47:59.739 --> 00:48:07.170
You three could interview a winner from the VGN tournament who took your picture?

00:48:08.576 --> 00:48:09.016
no, I've got.

00:48:09.016 --> 00:48:09.932
I gotta go get the trophy.

00:48:10.094 --> 00:48:11.278
I gotta go get the trophy tomorrow.

00:48:13.958 --> 00:48:20.690
I don't have it here with me but no, I'm just messing well, I mean, I played red rock country club dan's looking for new irons.

00:48:20.690 --> 00:48:24.976
Uh, jeremy, what's going on with you?

00:48:24.976 --> 00:48:28.440
Nothing jeremy's set.

00:48:29.442 --> 00:48:36.222
He's the most dan, so you haven't looked for new irons in a while yeah, what are you getting right now then?

00:48:36.364 --> 00:48:37.510
uh, it's been a good decade.

00:48:37.510 --> 00:48:47.335
Um, I have the tour preferred mbs from 2014 wow, you're 10 years.

00:48:47.576 --> 00:48:51.262
You're, yeah, right there with bobby hey, you like what you like.

00:48:51.483 --> 00:48:52.304
You know that is true.

00:48:52.304 --> 00:48:53.413
I've always liked my irons.

00:48:53.413 --> 00:48:54.356
They're still in good shape.

00:48:54.356 --> 00:49:01.891
I mean they're getting some dings and you know they've been visiting the desert here a little bit lately, but uh but uh no, I think it's time.

00:49:01.891 --> 00:49:04.338
You know there's some beautiful things out there.

00:49:04.338 --> 00:49:15.914
Right now I got two brands that I'm pretty much duking it out between strixons and mizuno um yeah, you sent an obscure text this morning, uh or was that last?

00:49:15.954 --> 00:49:21.434
night, I don't know, it was last night yeah, okay yeah, I, I'm in bed by when you guys send that stuff, so it's hilarious.

00:49:21.434 --> 00:49:30.699
Um, I get up in the morning to read them, but I know you're up early so I was like because he sent a message saying if money wasn't an object, what irons are you buying that are not sevens?

00:49:31.684 --> 00:49:34.534
yeah, well, I figure, I figure sevens.

00:49:35.096 --> 00:49:40.952
I mean, I figured we we all say those yeah and they're beautiful irons and they're like five thousand dollars a set.

00:49:40.952 --> 00:49:56.690
But you know, I was just kind of yeah, I was shopping late last night and I just started thinking I'm like I see all these crazy different sets, all these supposedly you know, tour issue sets and tour issue heads, and I'm just thinking myself who in their right mind would pay that much money for that shit?

00:49:56.690 --> 00:50:05.880
I mean, if they're not these tour issue heads and these tour van heads like they're like weighted and designed for these tour player specific swings so what the?

00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:06.902
fuck are you gonna do?

00:50:07.692 --> 00:50:16.896
with somebody's equipment who is completely spec for for them and not for you, you're going to pay $12,000 or $1,200 or something that's not even fitted for you.

00:50:16.896 --> 00:50:20.635
It just kind of got me thinking about.

00:50:20.635 --> 00:50:22.275
If money was no object, what would you guys get?

00:50:24.092 --> 00:50:28.094
What has led to Srixon and Mizuno and not the other?

00:50:28.135 --> 00:50:29.663
brands.

00:50:29.663 --> 00:50:49.434
I've been looking at a lot of sets and just those two just set up great to me, like they're still one of the few brands I mean tidalist does too, but I love a thin top line, like a really thin top line, especially in the short irons and a lot of these new clubs that are out.

00:50:49.434 --> 00:50:52.148
I see a lot, you know, a little bulky top line, especially in the short irons, and a lot of these new clubs that are out.

00:50:52.148 --> 00:51:01.398
I see a lot, you know, a little bulky top line and it's just not what my eye likes or what I like to play and look at when I'm, you know, setting up to the club, setting up to the ball.

00:51:02.081 --> 00:51:07.751
But uh, the strixons and the mazunos, I, I love them.

00:51:07.751 --> 00:51:21.922
They just they set up great, I mean even even in the cat cavity backs, like for the long irons, cause I'm thinking about doing a combo set, even like the ZX sevens and the Mizuno 223s, those cavity backs, they don't.

00:51:21.922 --> 00:51:23.782
That top line is real nice and thin.

00:51:23.782 --> 00:51:28.427
So it's just that's why those two are setting themselves apart from me.

00:51:28.427 --> 00:51:29.206
That's just.

00:51:29.387 --> 00:51:34.452
I like what I'm looking at two are setting themselves apart from me.

00:51:34.452 --> 00:51:34.693
That's just.

00:51:34.693 --> 00:51:36.802
I like what I'm looking at, so I I accepted the offer letter from calloway.

00:51:36.802 --> 00:51:37.545
I have done my background check.

00:51:37.545 --> 00:51:42.695
I have peed in a cup successfully, so, uh, training starts soon.

00:51:42.695 --> 00:51:45.760
I'm gonna be doing fittings with julian.

00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:54.737
Oh yeah, for calloway uh so I'm I'm gonna to be totally following you, watching what you're doing and why.

00:51:54.737 --> 00:52:30.132
Boyd sent me a message today saying that he's about ready to bite the bullet on some T-150s, and so I, you know 70 questions to him about it, and it's going to be one of the first topics that roars and I record um, how to get fit when you're getting fit, because, uh, I was blown away with some of the things that boyd was telling me today about where he had this done at and what led him to that decision to look at those clubs.

00:52:30.132 --> 00:52:33.862
Um, so are you going to go swing these?

00:52:33.862 --> 00:52:36.639
Are you going to look at getting fit for them, are you?

00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.164
You know your stuff.

00:52:38.266 --> 00:52:58.257
you're not worried about getting fit, you just want to find what's right for you yeah, I mean I don't, I'm probably not going to get fit too much as far as irons go, um, because I, you know, I've heard I've hit dynamic golds, I've hit them all and I know what the ball does pretty much.

00:52:58.257 --> 00:53:18.311
You know, I haven't tried a few of these, like the moda shafts and or those ns shafts or anything like that, but I know what to expect from from dynamic golds and from uh project x.

00:53:18.311 --> 00:53:18.974
So you know, the head is whatever.

00:53:18.974 --> 00:53:26.559
I mean, as long as it for me I have to like what I'm looking at, like the rest of the shit doesn't matter, like of course I'm going to hit him because feel is feel is huge with me too.

00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:32.981
But as far as iron's getting fit, other than like what I'm looking at now, I I'm probably not going to get fitted.

00:53:32.981 --> 00:53:46.369
But also too I haven't told Joe or Matt I got a new driver coming too, so so that I'll probably be, you know, curious on trying new shafts and checking.

00:53:47.293 --> 00:53:49.920
I mean the title is is it a GT three?

00:53:50.931 --> 00:53:53.416
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's it's it's a smoke, isn't it?

00:53:53.416 --> 00:53:56.931
No, no, no, joe's right, it's a title.

00:53:56.952 --> 00:54:00.619
That's why I told jeremy already yeah yeah, it makes sense.

00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:01.862
Yeah, I've got a good deal.

00:54:02.130 --> 00:54:04.039
This thing was like barely swung.

00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:05.304
I mean, it's almost brand new.

00:54:05.304 --> 00:54:08.032
And the guy, the guy wanted 230 for it on ebs.

00:54:08.032 --> 00:54:27.931
I'm like sure, because I was thinking I was looking at the gts, because I was at, uh, las vegas golf um superstore, um and uh, it looks good, but you know, it's almost 700 and by the time you put a different shaft in there I'm just like, fuck that, I'll just buy a set of irons for that much you know.

00:54:27.931 --> 00:54:34.393
So as I was looking for irons, I seen that head in there and I started looking at that and I saw the low price tags.

00:54:34.393 --> 00:54:36.057
I said, ah, fuck it, pull the trigger.

00:54:36.057 --> 00:54:38.931
So would you, would you?

00:54:39.291 --> 00:54:43.059
ever consider a brand that is direct to consumer?

00:54:43.059 --> 00:54:47.052
That or would, before you make the decision, you want to hit him?

00:54:47.954 --> 00:54:48.074
I?

00:54:48.074 --> 00:54:54.577
Yeah, I'd probably have to look at him and hit him like these sub-70s and new levels and stuff like that.

00:54:54.577 --> 00:55:04.456
Yeah, no, I'd have to look at him, set him up, hit him and then think about three months and then pull the trigger.

00:55:04.994 --> 00:55:11.280
Pull the trigger on him later Could you base a set of irons off, hitting one 7-iron.

00:55:17.309 --> 00:55:18.353
Um, a set of irons off hitting one, seven iron?

00:55:18.353 --> 00:55:20.561
Probably, yeah, probably.

00:55:20.561 --> 00:55:27.298
I mean I still have to look at the long irons because I consider seven iron still kind of a short iron.

00:55:27.298 --> 00:55:30.414
So I'd have to look at how a four iron and three iron would set up.

00:55:31.793 --> 00:55:33.996
You should try the new level MCs.

00:55:36.990 --> 00:55:42.635
Again, I don't really know anybody that has them or a shop that carries them for me to try them.

00:55:42.635 --> 00:55:45.474
Figure it out If you guys buy them.

00:55:45.474 --> 00:55:50.514
Joe, if you buy them, I'll hit yours and go from there, I think we should make a trip to Scottsdale.

00:55:51.096 --> 00:55:53.722
Yeah, we'll see, I'll hit yours and go from there, I think we should make a trip to Scottsdale.

00:55:53.742 --> 00:55:54.262
Yeah, that's a good idea.

00:55:54.262 --> 00:55:54.463
We'll see.

00:55:54.463 --> 00:55:55.025
Yeah, I got some thinking.

00:55:55.045 --> 00:55:56.768
We'll figure it out.

00:55:56.768 --> 00:56:01.661
Scottsdale yeah, I want you to look next time we're out.

00:56:01.661 --> 00:56:13.798
Maybe you'll see Steven at Coyote Because he has the Adele SMS Pros which has a thinner top line and it's not as meaty.

00:56:13.798 --> 00:56:25.496
I'm curious what your thoughts, because I know that mine do have kind of a thick top line not as thick as some of the other ones, but Well, I saw Steven's clubs out of Bannon but I honestly thought that yours and his were the same.

00:56:25.556 --> 00:56:26.280
I didn't even set them up.

00:56:26.469 --> 00:56:36.414
Well, he's got a, he's got a combo, so he's got sms and I think the four, five and six, and then the pros in the seven, eight nine if I'm.

00:56:36.976 --> 00:56:41.065
If I remember correctly, I only build his irons I I don't know um.

00:56:41.065 --> 00:56:45.275
So yeah, so I'm, I'm it was.

00:56:45.275 --> 00:56:53.090
It was a really good experience the first time I went out with julian and did the fitting um, seeing how the public reacts to different things.

00:56:53.090 --> 00:56:58.135
I know how you guys are going to react to something, based on if it feels good or if it doesn't feel good.

00:56:58.135 --> 00:57:00.056
There's no sugarcoating it with you guys.

00:57:00.610 --> 00:57:01.253
You're going to tell them?

00:57:01.253 --> 00:57:02.538
Did you check your email?

00:57:06.650 --> 00:57:07.976
Did you check your text messages?

00:57:09.150 --> 00:57:10.436
Y'all have to tone it down a little bit.

00:57:10.436 --> 00:57:13.518
I'm just a cog.

00:57:13.518 --> 00:57:19.016
I'm just a cog in this wheel, but no, I'm looking forward to that.

00:57:19.016 --> 00:57:22.014
And then, joe, what did you say?

00:57:23.733 --> 00:57:24.581
Oh, you were on Red Rock.

00:57:24.581 --> 00:57:31.148
Yeah, I played Red Rock yesterday with my old skateboarding, graffiti-riding homie back in the day.

00:57:31.148 --> 00:57:35.076
I haven't seen him for a while or hung out with him for a while, so that was fun.

00:57:35.076 --> 00:57:38.797
Red Rock Country Club Greens were fantastic, really great.

00:57:38.797 --> 00:57:49.074
The greens were really good, but the course is, you know, it's nothing too special, so but it was a fun day.

00:57:49.074 --> 00:57:55.434
Shout out Shoes for Scholars, put on a good little charity benefit tournament.

00:57:55.434 --> 00:57:57.396
Um, it was fun good.

00:57:57.396 --> 00:58:00.362
Uh, lunch winners came in at 20 under.

00:58:00.362 --> 00:58:08.670
They had one of those uh cannonball things where you got on a par five if you made it into the net you got a zero on that hole.

00:58:08.670 --> 00:58:13.025
So hopefully they only made a 15 under on their round.

00:58:13.025 --> 00:58:16.956
But, um, we shot 10 under and we did make it into the net.

00:58:16.956 --> 00:58:19.963
Uh, definitely left some out there, but it was it was.

00:58:19.963 --> 00:58:31.396
It was interesting because you know I play with players like matt's currently better than me, but you know we're we're in the same level.

00:58:33.550 --> 00:58:34.036
I play with Trey and Dan.

00:58:34.036 --> 00:58:35.130
That hurts so much for him to say that.

00:58:35.130 --> 00:58:37.235
Oh no, it's fine man.

00:58:37.235 --> 00:58:39.815
Well, rob said, matt's better than me right now.

00:58:41.954 --> 00:58:45.278
I was just looking at Wilsons from the 70s on eBay trying to get some.

00:58:45.278 --> 00:58:52.518
I literally was doing that two hours ago, trying to build a 70s bag.

00:58:52.518 --> 00:59:06.840
Um, but no, it was interesting because you know, I typically play with people that are in the same or similar skill level or better than me, and you know they just started playing golf recently and it was.

00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:14.050
It was weird, you know, because I hit like an okay drive and they're like, oh man, yeah, how'd you fucking?

00:59:14.070 --> 00:59:17.018
smash that you know, and I'm like that's so sick.

00:59:17.518 --> 00:59:19.610
You know, I was like it was okay, it's different.

00:59:19.610 --> 00:59:26.414
It's weird, man, because golf is like that there's so many different like areas to the game and it was different.

00:59:26.414 --> 00:59:27.898
I haven't experienced that in a long time.

00:59:27.898 --> 00:59:46.422
So it was a lot of fun and, you know, being able to uh share my knowledge of golf clubs, golf courses, you know things like yeah, podcast, uh handing out stickers and uh not gonna get on that top 10 list, joe, without you yeah, it was different.

00:59:46.442 --> 00:59:46.643
It was.

00:59:46.643 --> 00:59:49.356
It was uh, it was cool man, it was a lot of of fun.

00:59:49.356 --> 00:59:50.498
I had a good time out there.

00:59:50.498 --> 01:00:01.199
Not my favorite golf course in the city or probably doesn't even crack the top 10, but it was in good condition and the greens were great.

01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:02.061
But it was a good day.

01:00:02.061 --> 01:00:02.943
I had a lot of fun.

01:00:03.630 --> 01:00:06.657
Have you seen the hate that Angel Park is getting right now?

01:00:08.300 --> 01:00:08.882
Yes, I have.

01:00:08.969 --> 01:00:11.179
Because, of Palm or what Both courses?

01:00:12.411 --> 01:00:12.592
Really.

01:00:13.074 --> 01:00:17.489
It is dormant yeah so I talked to darden.

01:00:17.630 --> 01:00:24.711
Darden wants to come on oh, he knows he knows we can help him, um, but there's been a lot of restrictions placed on him.

01:00:24.711 --> 01:00:33.485
Oh, yeah, um, and and even with, uh, josh josh gatson's post I mean he was out at, I think, las Vegas Muni.

01:00:33.485 --> 01:00:46.617
He said, like the greens were so bad and it must be a management issue with Arcus, you know, because maybe they were just preparing to dump money into it and just like letting it go, or something like that.

01:00:46.617 --> 01:00:53.356
But yeah, darden told me there's a lot of restrictions placed on them, especially with the water crisis going on, we have out these areas.

01:00:53.356 --> 01:01:00.269
But, um, yeah, yeah, interesting uh, I, I understand.

01:01:01.552 --> 01:01:03.297
I understand you have water restrictions.

01:01:03.336 --> 01:01:06.492
There's new yes, there's new laws there's new rules you know.

01:01:06.492 --> 01:01:11.320
Look, if there's water restrictions, the one person that can do something with it is Darden.

01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.344
Yeah, because wild horse yeah.

01:01:13.726 --> 01:01:15.916
Yeah, I mean so high.

01:01:15.916 --> 01:01:21.583
This is a great example for everybody that's listening, wanting to know what's going on with the water in Vegas.

01:01:21.583 --> 01:01:26.420
So high has been paying the penalty because they don't give a fuck.

01:01:26.420 --> 01:01:31.996
They've got the money and they're paying the penalty and the water.

01:01:31.996 --> 01:01:33.420
We'll have to ask Babs about this.

01:01:33.420 --> 01:01:38.237
But the water district basically said, okay, well, what if the fine is this much?

01:01:38.590 --> 01:01:40.336
They're like we're not paying it.

01:01:40.336 --> 01:01:45.358
Well, what if it's this much, then we're not going to spend that much water.

01:01:45.358 --> 01:01:47.094
Okay, that's the new restriction.

01:01:47.094 --> 01:01:50.675
Then you know it's a cheese and so they've had to cut back.

01:01:50.675 --> 01:01:55.215
They're going dormant in the winter, which is something that course has never done.

01:01:55.215 --> 01:01:59.054
You know, it's going to look like red rock, with dormant fairways and green greens.

01:01:59.054 --> 01:02:00.878
You know, um, and it's unusual.

01:02:00.878 --> 01:02:02.791
Out here, people in texas are like what are you talking about?

01:02:02.791 --> 01:02:05.398
This happens every year out here, not so much.

01:02:05.398 --> 01:02:10.483
We're not used to seeing brown fairways in the wintertime out here, because we have a winter grass.

01:02:10.483 --> 01:02:19.402
It doesn't get that cold that it doesn't, you know, kill it, um, so, but this is, this is what I think.

01:02:19.402 --> 01:02:22.711
Everybody that was complaining has an incredible beef.

01:02:22.711 --> 01:02:25.715
They're still charging 90 to play on that.

01:02:25.715 --> 01:02:27.617
It's dirt.

01:02:27.617 --> 01:02:28.980
It's dirt.

01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:35.911
Now, the greens are great greens are in great shape, but the fairways, and it's dirt.

01:02:35.911 --> 01:02:37.974
You can't charge 90 bucks on that.

01:02:37.974 --> 01:02:41.402
What's robbie saying?

01:02:41.402 --> 01:02:41.802
Robbie?

01:02:41.802 --> 01:02:43.791
Robbie plays there a lot, so tough.

01:02:43.811 --> 01:03:01.121
Look when ark is, when elite has kept their courses in good, very good shape yeah I mean, eleante is in fantastic shape right now yeah, so, um, I do have one thing to tell you guys, and you guys might be upset with me, and especially matt, uh-oh.

01:03:01.121 --> 01:03:19.257
So next tuesday, uh, I'm gonna play in the vegas golden knights classic at winn all right, guys, what's going?

01:03:19.378 --> 01:03:29.733
on damn joe wow, that's awesome yeah how'd you fucking pull that off?

01:03:31.295 --> 01:03:41.771
I'm not gonna say it on the podcast, but yeah uh, dude, no special, special invite um for you for that god yeah, I'm, I'm really excited.

01:03:41.771 --> 01:03:46.666
Uh, yeah, super I hope you get paired with a first round draft pick that you have no idea.

01:03:46.666 --> 01:03:57.601
We probably will um, but you know I hope you get the equipment manager's assistant yeah, we probably will, but no hell, no other way.

01:03:57.601 --> 01:04:01.271
That's freaking amazing yeah I'm stoked for that.

01:04:01.791 --> 01:04:12.413
Yeah, and I'll tell you guys after, but um, don't want to throw it out there currently um we all know him so yeah, very thankful to get that invite.

01:04:12.413 --> 01:04:21.130
So that's gonna be, that's gonna be fun and it's cool yeah now I'm like depressed, but I'm, I do it.

01:04:21.190 --> 01:04:40.806
Yeah, I know I'm excited, but I'm depressed I wish, I wish, maybe one day maybe you know chasing daylight podcast we'll have a team out there blows up and we can pay ten thousand dollars for a spot yeah, so I'm excited for that because when I did get to play it that one time it was so fucking hot Like it was.

01:04:41.469 --> 01:04:42.032
I enjoyed it.

01:04:42.032 --> 01:04:43.612
Wait, this is your second time doing it.

01:04:44.045 --> 01:04:47.065
Yeah, I played it during the pandemic when it was $2.50.

01:04:47.065 --> 01:04:47.527
No, it was.

01:04:47.547 --> 01:04:50.612
Mike, when you did a video of all the course blog.

01:04:50.724 --> 01:04:56.751
It was $2.50 during the pandemic that was the VGN Golden Knights thing.

01:04:56.851 --> 01:05:00.798
No, not the VGK Classic oh you're talking about when, when we played Wynn, yeah.

01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:01.500
Oh, okay.

01:05:02.224 --> 01:05:03.632
I was like you played it before.

01:05:03.632 --> 01:05:05.188
No, no.

01:05:05.188 --> 01:05:10.019
Yeah, it was so hot that day it was hard to enjoy it.

01:05:10.019 --> 01:05:23.536
I enjoyed it, but it was hard to enjoy it and the greens were super sandy, so I'm hoping it's uh I wonder what green fees are out there right now it's like 8, 50 dude 8 50, oh yeah oh fuck I'm never gonna.

01:05:23.536 --> 01:05:25.559
Yeah, it's crazy right now.

01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:29.795
Yeah, I've been killing it with the invites lately, so thank everybody.

01:05:29.815 --> 01:05:35.793
Yeah, appreciate you all, then he's gone you can wear t-shirts on golf courses and still get invited to play golf.

01:05:35.813 --> 01:05:38.759
So oh, you know I was waiting.

01:05:38.759 --> 01:05:45.016
I abandoned, posted that picture of the guy proposing to his wife and he's in a t-shirt and I'm like, oh, here we go, come on.

01:05:45.016 --> 01:05:46.659
I'm like where's everybody, Where's all the heat?

01:05:46.659 --> 01:05:53.257
Nobody's hating on the guy getting married, but a couple of guys having fun Just hack on them.

01:05:53.878 --> 01:05:55.362
Something good happened.

01:05:55.362 --> 01:05:56.344
Who cares about the t-shirt?

01:05:56.545 --> 01:05:59.916
Yeah, that's funny.

01:05:59.916 --> 01:06:03.967
Bethpage win With the Golden Knights Red.

01:06:04.007 --> 01:06:04.168
Rock.

01:06:04.309 --> 01:06:04.971
Country Club.

01:06:04.971 --> 01:06:06.932
You are bougie.

01:06:06.932 --> 01:06:15.672
Joe's playing fucking Shadow Creek With Michael Jordan and shit I'm going to Augusta next week, guys, sorry, we'll be here on the podcast.

01:06:15.672 --> 01:06:15.952
That's free.

01:06:15.974 --> 01:06:17.664
I got invited to Augusta next week, guys, sorry, we'll be here, on the podcast, that's.

01:06:17.684 --> 01:06:22.639
Reed, I got invited to the.

01:06:22.699 --> 01:06:25.809
Masters, man, yeah, man, sorry guys.

01:06:26.170 --> 01:06:28.336
Steve Lynn called me up and said you know what?

01:06:28.336 --> 01:06:30.148
There's nobody golfing at Shadow Creek today.

01:06:30.148 --> 01:06:30.710
You want to play?

01:06:33.356 --> 01:06:35.211
Yes, yes, I do Steve.

01:06:41.744 --> 01:06:50.077
Steveo, just tell him to pick you up and we'll hop in the van he won't be able to see us so be quiet, be able to see us, uh, okay, oh wait.

01:06:50.117 --> 01:06:50.898
Hey, adam said that.

01:06:50.898 --> 01:06:52.246
I don't know if adam's still listening or not.

01:06:52.246 --> 01:06:56.436
But uh, can we talk about fitzy's crack driver ruling, what?

01:06:56.436 --> 01:06:57.445
What was that about?

01:06:57.445 --> 01:06:58.809
Because I didn't understand.

01:06:58.809 --> 01:07:01.474
I I didn't watch the video because I was golfing.

01:07:01.494 --> 01:07:12.065
I have no clue so he cracked his driver face and he the the official said he couldn't replace it, but I don't know much more than that.

01:07:12.126 --> 01:07:18.117
I know it's a huge controversy was it an act of golf that caused the crack?

01:07:18.157 --> 01:07:18.418
or did.

01:07:18.438 --> 01:07:29.190
He was just a yeah, so supposedly the crack has to be folded onto itself or something like that for it to count as replaceable.

01:07:29.190 --> 01:07:39.336
And the dude that the official rubbed his nail on it and over the radio he was like I can feel it with my nail that it's cracked.

01:07:39.336 --> 01:07:41.873
And they said, well, we don't do a nail test.

01:07:41.873 --> 01:07:47.717
It has to be like folded onto itself or like inside.

01:07:47.717 --> 01:07:49.271
Yeah, it has to be folded.

01:07:49.965 --> 01:07:50.949
Like two separate layers.

01:07:50.949 --> 01:07:54.152
Yeah, so like that.

01:07:55.346 --> 01:08:02.931
Yeah, or like it has to be concaved in, or like spread out, or whatever, yeah, so I don't know.

01:08:03.030 --> 01:08:09.771
I you know you got other clubs in your bag and you're a pro shut up yeah, and, and that's that was my response.

01:08:09.851 --> 01:08:22.729
And uh, the the text was like you know, I don't have extra driver heads in my car to swap out robson crack was not extreme enough for replacement per official and deemed it it didn't affect performance of driver.

01:08:22.809 --> 01:08:26.967
And there you go, so he was able to play it, though I think he could play without.

01:08:26.967 --> 01:08:31.078
Well, he hit it if you wanted to like duck, hooked it low.

01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.587
Oh so there was an obvious crack there.

01:08:34.587 --> 01:08:37.457
It definitely was, was cracked, it was for sure cracked.

01:08:37.457 --> 01:08:43.893
But you know, I don't know the rules are the rules, just not cracked enough yeah.

01:08:44.985 --> 01:08:45.889
He hits the ball far enough.

01:08:45.889 --> 01:08:46.851
Just hit your three-way, you're fine.

01:08:47.954 --> 01:08:50.854
Yeah, I mean, like I said, like I mean people are looking at it.

01:08:50.854 --> 01:08:52.306
You don't.

01:08:52.306 --> 01:08:55.355
You know I don't have extra driver heads in my car.

01:08:55.355 --> 01:08:58.024
You know I don't have extra driver heads in my car.

01:08:58.024 --> 01:08:58.404
Deal with it.

01:08:59.626 --> 01:09:00.208
Yeah, but they do.

01:09:01.292 --> 01:09:01.753
Exactly.

01:09:02.024 --> 01:09:05.610
I think that's the thing he was saying Go in the parking lot and get my other driver.

01:09:06.313 --> 01:09:07.655
Yeah, exactly that's the thing.

01:09:07.655 --> 01:09:13.176
So, I think the normal population is like.

01:09:13.176 --> 01:09:18.429
I don't have extra driver heads readily available, so deal with it.

01:09:20.515 --> 01:09:24.712
Hmm, oh, what's Flautty saying.

01:09:24.712 --> 01:09:32.095
It essentially cracked enough to fall on, it essentially wasn't cracked enough to fall under the ruling.

01:09:32.296 --> 01:09:32.777
Yeah, okay.

01:09:35.305 --> 01:09:51.828
Sucks to be you then then yeah, it is what it is and you have to hit a three wood 325 instead oh yeah he wasn't happy, that's for sure hey I I was like so you're telling me I gotta hit my three wood all day?

01:09:51.828 --> 01:09:58.059
Yes yep, that's what I'm telling you you're telling me, I'm not getting any range balls.

01:09:59.511 --> 01:10:13.110
I'm not getting any range balls, that's what you're telling me okay uh, hey, uh, I want to give a warning to everybody in the vegas golf network that plays with terrence um angles.

01:10:13.110 --> 01:10:15.755
He is, uh in the hearts division right now.

01:10:15.755 --> 01:10:20.204
Um, the the guy absolutely murders the ball.

01:10:20.204 --> 01:10:26.836
Um, I would say, uh, if trey saw him hit he would go holy shit.

01:10:26.836 --> 01:10:30.006
Uh, same with dan and some of our other big bombers.

01:10:30.006 --> 01:10:34.672
Uh never seen a ball get crushed like that.

01:10:34.672 --> 01:10:38.278
Uh, reed would even say wow, that was impressive.

01:10:38.278 --> 01:10:39.179
Uh.

01:10:39.179 --> 01:10:50.311
So once he gets dialed because he has some equipment issues right now um, he basically played the back nine with an eight iron and shot one under uh when he started using it through eight holes.

01:10:50.311 --> 01:10:57.121
So, uh, hits his eight, hits his 8-iron, 230 yards, and it's his swing.

01:10:57.121 --> 01:11:08.831
It's not like I'm trying to hit a 200-yard shot with a putter, it's his swing 230, 240-yard carry on an 8-iron, it's insane.

01:11:08.831 --> 01:11:17.716
So yeah, congrats to him for being a powerful athlete, holy shit.

01:11:18.277 --> 01:11:19.819
Wow, we do.

01:11:19.819 --> 01:11:21.390
We do have a question on.

01:11:21.390 --> 01:11:24.350
Instagram Is Valley High, in good shape.

01:11:24.350 --> 01:11:25.930
We haven't been out there for a while.

01:11:25.930 --> 01:11:26.351
When was that?

01:11:26.351 --> 01:11:27.628
Like two months ago?

01:11:27.649 --> 01:11:28.573
A couple months ago.

01:11:29.414 --> 01:11:30.667
Yeah, so it was.

01:11:30.667 --> 01:11:32.213
It was in good shape when we played it.

01:11:32.213 --> 01:11:33.650
I drove by the other day.

01:11:33.650 --> 01:11:39.851
It looks a little dry, but when you're driving down the 15, uh, you can't see too much.

01:11:39.851 --> 01:11:41.034
But yeah, it looks.

01:11:41.034 --> 01:11:42.337
It looks decent currently.

01:11:42.337 --> 01:11:51.252
So if you're on your way out here, uh, trying to play golf, boulder creek yeah, or more pipe or by you boulder creek.

01:11:51.252 --> 01:11:59.177
The pictures coming out of boulder creek are shocking, yeah even boulder creek dry and dormant and firm is still a lot of fun.

01:12:00.426 --> 01:12:06.219
They hats off to their crew because, man, I can't believe what's happening out there.

01:12:06.219 --> 01:12:08.993
I'm excited that our finals are going to take place there.

01:12:10.125 --> 01:12:12.051
Yeah, just got to get into them.

01:12:12.472 --> 01:12:13.034
Yeah, same.

01:12:15.667 --> 01:12:16.831
I have moved up the charts.

01:12:16.831 --> 01:12:26.779
My last, my last three rounds, so I'm uh very happy right now, uh coming from colorado in two weeks uh boulder creek book.

01:12:26.845 --> 01:12:31.417
Boulder creek right now boulder creek or pie you can't go wrong with those two it's they're worth.

01:12:31.417 --> 01:12:35.912
You'll be very happy yeah, and and bally high is overpriced, trust us.

01:12:36.273 --> 01:12:39.880
You can play both of those rounds for the same price as Valley High Probably yeah.

01:12:40.465 --> 01:12:41.590
And you'll have a lot more fun.

01:12:41.590 --> 01:12:43.126
Yeah, because.

01:12:43.145 --> 01:12:49.730
Boulder Creek is awesome, valley's convenient, but yeah, it's not the greatest golf course in the world.

01:12:51.335 --> 01:12:55.485
No, and you have to hit off mats on some holes and that's no fun, all right, oh hey.

01:12:55.485 --> 01:12:57.122
And you have to hit off mats on some holes and that's no fun, all right, uh, oh hey.

01:12:57.122 --> 01:13:01.672
So I asked uh, is it taylor or tyler the caddy at uh, black desert?

01:13:01.672 --> 01:13:05.368
Tyler, tyler, we have so many tailors and I get it mixed up.

01:13:05.368 --> 01:13:11.869
I feel bad about that, but I asked him because I heard a rumor and uh red drop confirmed it.

01:13:11.869 --> 01:13:26.798
Um, they are having players the caddies bring small little hitting mats and having people hit off mats in the fairways oh really yes because, right, currently, right now currently, right now.

01:13:27.466 --> 01:13:29.292
Yes, and they're closed for a month.

01:13:29.292 --> 01:13:33.768
Yeah, they're closing for a month they're trying to showcase man.

01:13:33.969 --> 01:13:35.880
I get it, it's gonna look good on tv.

01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:51.086
It's gonna look amazing on tv and saint george is gonna get so much business from this being on tv yeah I mean it's gonna uh, it's insane, it's gonna look really good, but would you be happy paying 300?

01:13:51.086 --> 01:13:52.068
Bucks hell no.

01:13:52.068 --> 01:14:00.912
And then having to play your round of golf on that amazing golf course off a mat no they build that that goes flying.

01:14:01.011 --> 01:14:08.594
Every time you hit the ball you gotta chase it down uh, you know we have our the secret t-box that we found, or that we hit off on eight.

01:14:08.594 --> 01:14:14.592
Um, that is the t-box now for that hole, until the tournament and all the other par threes.

01:14:14.592 --> 01:14:30.555
They built structures like that on the back of the back t-box, so all the holes are longer and you have to hit off a mat yeah, wow so, uh, he was saying that you know there was a group, uh, that they had a lady and that's where the lady had hit from.

01:14:30.596 --> 01:14:40.750
And it's like dude, this is, you know, like 170 yard carry um, let her hit off the front box, no one's gonna play on that box.

01:14:41.310 --> 01:14:41.931
Interesting.

01:14:41.931 --> 01:14:43.855
They're really going for it, man they're.

01:14:43.855 --> 01:14:47.331
They're trying to showcase that place and try and get the people to come out.

01:14:47.390 --> 01:14:50.265
So they are, and I think the other courses in st george are.

01:14:50.265 --> 01:15:01.859
I mean, we've, we've tried booking a course that we love out there and we're basically slapped in the face, um, because, yeah, the rates are gonna go so hot next year.

01:15:01.859 --> 01:15:05.248
Yeah, I mean it's because it's.

01:15:05.489 --> 01:15:14.270
I mean with all the um, golf trip, instagram, uh pages, I mean touting that place and like how undiscovered it is.

01:15:14.270 --> 01:15:17.356
I mean, we've known about it for a while and you know it's.

01:15:17.356 --> 01:15:20.713
It's becoming a destination that a lot of people didn't know about.

01:15:20.713 --> 01:15:29.577
I mean, it's a small city, you know, just northeast of las vegas and southwest of salt lake city.

01:15:29.676 --> 01:15:31.539
That nobody knew about.

01:15:31.539 --> 01:15:34.590
It is such an easy drive too, I mean I love that drive.

01:15:34.609 --> 01:15:35.371
It's a great drive.

01:15:35.451 --> 01:15:38.077
Once they fix that apex and it's done.

01:15:38.077 --> 01:15:39.338
God, it's going to be nice.

01:15:40.444 --> 01:15:41.489
Yeah, it's an easy drive.

01:15:41.489 --> 01:15:42.751
I've always loved that drive.

01:15:44.506 --> 01:15:46.073
Even going all the way up to Hurtkin.

01:15:46.845 --> 01:15:48.813
Yeah, and the people in St George are great.

01:15:48.813 --> 01:15:52.817
I mean, there's good restaurants, really good ice cream and cookies.

01:15:53.985 --> 01:15:55.229
What's the name of that chicken place?

01:15:57.234 --> 01:16:00.512
You're talking about Viva Chicken, viva Chicken is great.

01:16:00.512 --> 01:16:02.390
Peruvian yeah.

01:16:04.845 --> 01:16:05.287
We ate there.

01:16:05.287 --> 01:16:06.353
Last time we were in St George.

01:16:08.265 --> 01:16:09.966
Where's 125 in summer, Robbie?

01:16:09.966 --> 01:16:11.569
What course are you talking about?

01:16:11.609 --> 01:16:15.412
If you're talking about Black Desert, that's a deal.

01:16:16.166 --> 01:16:17.591
I'll pay that all day in the summer.

01:16:17.731 --> 01:16:18.474
Let's go tomorrow.

01:16:18.474 --> 01:16:22.734
Sky Mountain Pass, yeah, pass.

01:16:26.626 --> 01:16:28.673
So I'm not getting range balls, that's what you're saying.

01:16:29.904 --> 01:16:33.576
The 125 does not include range balls Does not include range balls.

01:16:34.945 --> 01:16:35.770
That's $4,.

01:16:35.770 --> 01:16:37.283
Please the machines downstairs.

01:16:37.283 --> 01:16:39.534
Pop a rock and sand hollow before.

01:16:39.534 --> 01:16:46.902
Pop a rock and sand hollow before 13 probably before.

01:16:47.969 --> 01:16:48.289
I don't know.

01:16:48.289 --> 01:16:53.329
Before 1 pm, he's military time.

01:16:53.329 --> 01:16:55.033
Oh okay, there you go.

01:16:57.411 --> 01:17:05.856
I think that's it uh I don't know I mean copper rock.

01:17:05.856 --> 01:17:16.356
I think that's a little high because it's 10 hollow after 12 was 85 I, I that's, I would probably pay that.

01:17:19.645 --> 01:17:21.572
I think those two golf courses are worth 120.

01:17:21.591 --> 01:17:25.304
It's going to be 185 next year.

01:17:25.323 --> 01:17:28.033
I think those courses are worth 120.

01:17:28.132 --> 01:17:46.797
Well, it's all this publicity that Black Desert is going to get and the views, and people are going to go out there and they're going to look for other courses to play and they're going to say, oh, it's 500 to play black desert and it's only 225 to play copper rock, okay, yeah it's just interesting drive, yeah, drive, drive do we know?

01:17:46.898 --> 01:17:51.872
do we know how many years black desert is locked in the pga tour for the fedex fall?

01:17:51.872 --> 01:17:52.493
I don't know.

01:17:52.533 --> 01:18:01.414
Is it they get one shot done, or I don't know, but they have lpga and pga tyra's telling me that they were closing down for a month before each one.

01:18:01.414 --> 01:18:09.945
So the course is only open to the public for 10 months and gotta remember december, january isn't going to be crazy business for them.

01:18:09.945 --> 01:18:10.926
I mean, it's not.

01:18:10.926 --> 01:18:14.289
It's not salt lake cold, but but it's winter.

01:18:16.872 --> 01:18:19.854
Yeah, it's a little cooler than here, for sure.

01:18:20.194 --> 01:18:21.416
This guy's crazy.

01:18:21.756 --> 01:18:27.520
Robbie with a hot take Give me Sky Mountain before Sand Hollow, and I was a huge fan of Sky Mountain.

01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:30.807
Oh, and I wasn't, wasn't?

01:18:30.828 --> 01:18:31.689
You're crazy.

01:18:31.689 --> 01:18:34.716
I'm leaving, I'll see you guys later.

01:18:34.735 --> 01:18:35.557
That's a cold take.

01:18:38.305 --> 01:18:39.148
I'm not the biggest Sand Hollow fan.

01:18:39.167 --> 01:18:43.725
I like copper rock way more, um, but uh, it's, it's better than sky.

01:18:46.029 --> 01:18:55.689
Yeah, they've got a nine hole links course, a fantastic range, uh, great views, yeah, yeah yeah, that's not good.

01:18:55.909 --> 01:19:10.323
That's not a good take rob, sorry stick to bgm players uh black deserts four years oh wow, four years maybe it's in the contract.

01:19:10.323 --> 01:19:14.712
If you have any divots on the golf course before we step foot on it, that's canceled.

01:19:16.054 --> 01:19:16.975
Shutting down for a month.

01:19:16.975 --> 01:19:18.219
You can't fix fairway.

01:19:19.650 --> 01:19:24.591
They do that, though they do that at Pebble Beach.

01:19:24.591 --> 01:19:29.292
I think I've seen it at before the mats.

01:19:29.292 --> 01:19:33.167
I'm sure they do it at a lot of courses.

01:19:33.167 --> 01:19:34.845
We just don't see it, st.

01:19:34.926 --> 01:19:35.649
Andrews doesn't.

01:19:36.474 --> 01:19:38.042
Yeah, that dog don't see it.

01:19:38.061 --> 01:19:38.423
St Andrews does it?

01:19:38.423 --> 01:19:42.211
Yeah, the dog's on that car, so I think that's ridiculous.

01:19:42.211 --> 01:19:48.452
Yeah, okay, I think we've covered enough this evening.

01:19:48.993 --> 01:19:49.416
Long one.

01:19:50.086 --> 01:20:01.551
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01:20:12.529 --> 01:20:13.363
The Shadow sponsor.

01:20:13.363 --> 01:20:14.422
Shadow sponsor what's that?

01:20:14.604 --> 01:20:15.649
Yeah, we never mentioned him.

01:20:16.166 --> 01:20:17.154
Oh Roars the shadow sponsor.

01:20:17.173 --> 01:20:17.636
Shadow sponsor was that?

01:20:17.636 --> 01:20:18.261
Yeah, we never mentioned him.

01:20:18.282 --> 01:20:25.262
Oh, roars, oh yeah, roars is going to get a lot of time, a lot of air time coming soon so um, hey, thank you.

01:20:25.463 --> 01:20:29.716
I appreciate you horse thanks, horse, we love you, roars thank you, roars.

01:20:30.759 --> 01:20:32.382
Um so, uh, my name is matt.

01:20:32.382 --> 01:20:35.371
Uh, you catch me my so-called golf life on instagram.

01:20:35.371 --> 01:20:38.525
Jo, joe, you are hitting greens on Instagram, jeremy.

01:20:38.525 --> 01:20:39.451
I am stat guy.

01:20:39.451 --> 01:20:42.373
You'll occasionally see a BMW post on there from him.

01:20:42.373 --> 01:20:45.731
Dan has an Instagram account that is dormant.

01:20:45.731 --> 01:20:47.856
It's not dead, it's dormant.

01:20:47.856 --> 01:20:54.234
So the only way you're going to see him is through videos we post of him, or on here, yep.

01:20:54.234 --> 01:20:57.159
That's about right His social media.

01:20:57.525 --> 01:20:59.524
Or you can catch him at the Las Vegas Golf Superstore.

01:20:59.524 --> 01:21:01.832
In the next month He'll be looking at the irons.

01:21:02.333 --> 01:21:02.595
Yeah.

01:21:04.565 --> 01:21:06.833
Revisit the iron talk in about four or five weeks.

01:21:08.108 --> 01:21:08.912
Looking forward to that.

01:21:08.912 --> 01:21:10.951
Everybody knows where the show is.

01:21:10.951 --> 01:21:13.271
We are on Instagram Chasing Daylight Podcast.

01:21:13.271 --> 01:21:16.931
We are on YouTube live every week.

01:21:16.931 --> 01:21:20.751
The show stays on there, so if you want to watch us, you can watch it anytime you want.

01:21:20.751 --> 01:21:27.987
Goes out on podcast, spotify and all the podcast platforms the following day.

01:21:27.987 --> 01:21:30.287
It may go out a little later tomorrow.

01:21:30.287 --> 01:21:32.989
I think I'm going to sleep in, I don't know, we'll see.

01:21:32.989 --> 01:21:35.287
We will see.

01:21:35.287 --> 01:21:36.813
That's it for us.

01:21:36.813 --> 01:21:37.354
Joe, you want to?

01:21:37.354 --> 01:21:39.128
Oh, fav's tuning in way late.

01:21:39.128 --> 01:21:40.552
Sorry, fav, way late.

01:21:40.552 --> 01:21:43.266
Sorry, buddy, I need to talk to him about Boston.

01:21:43.266 --> 01:21:44.208
I really like Boston.

01:21:45.490 --> 01:21:46.131
Boston.

01:21:46.131 --> 01:21:47.634
He has some stories.

01:21:47.954 --> 01:21:48.775
Just Boston.

01:21:49.216 --> 01:21:49.797
Bean town.

01:21:50.259 --> 01:21:51.119
All right, joe, take it away.

01:21:52.085 --> 01:21:53.047
Hey, thanks everybody.

01:21:53.328 --> 01:21:54.851
Thanks for not screaming in our ears this week.

01:21:55.292 --> 01:21:55.914
Yeah, you're welcome.

01:21:55.914 --> 01:21:57.078
Thanks for tuning in everybody.

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