Oct. 30, 2024

E289: Beds In House Talking Travis Mathew Innovations, Vegas PGA Golf Challenges, and Passionate Putter Fittings

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What if your favorite golf apparel brand was taking its style game to the next level? Join us as we chat with Andrew Bednard, affectionately known as Beds, about Travis Mathew's exciting innovations in golf fashion, including a new footwear line and a surprise success in women’s clothing. Our conversation wanders from the charming streets of St Andrews to the bustling PGA Tour scene, pondering how player endorsements and social media are reshaping the way we all sport our favorite golfing gear. Plus, we get into the nitty-gritty of digital marketing’s role in the post-COVID world—could it be changing the game more than we ever imagined?

Joe's out on his family escapades to the East Coast, with a heartwarming twist courtesy of his mother-in-law’s timely assistance. Our episode captures the essence of Vegas in the fall, from hoodie weather to Jeremy's quest for cactus supremacy, painting a vibrant picture of Las Vegas as a golf haven amidst sponsorship shake-ups. We dive into the challenges facing the golf scene in Sin City and brainstorm fresh ideas to keep the city swinging, whether it’s aligning with West Coast swing events or tapping into its party-centric allure for something entirely new and exciting.

If you’re obsessed with putters or just curious about the latest in golf tech, this episode is packed with insights you’ll love. From golfing with an injured finger to mastering the art of putter fitting, we cover it all with humor and passion. Each story weaves into the next, from exciting new equipment to personal anecdotes about enduring attachments to cherished clubs. With Andrew Bednard adding his unique insights, this episode is a tribute to the undying love for golf's ever-evolving landscape and the folks who play the game with heart and humor.

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Chapters

00:23 - Travis Matthew's Global Growth and Evolution

06:56 - PGA Tour Branding and Player Influence

11:41 - PGA Tour Tournament Sponsorship Changes

13:34 - [Ad] The Top 100 in 10 Golf Podcast

14:17 - (Cont.) PGA Tour Tournament Sponsorship Changes

21:36 - Rising Golf Course Costs and Availability

35:53 - New Golf Clubs and Fitting Technology

47:16 - Putter Technology and Preferences

50:13 - Putter Preferences and Fittings

55:43 - Golfers and Putter Technology

Transcript
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.

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We've got a special guest with us this week, Mr Andrew Bednard, aka Shoutout.

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Beds aka Beds, aka what?

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other names you got.

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How many names you got?

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I would say that's pretty spot on, Pretty spot on right.

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Bednards and Broomsticks, spot on.

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Oh, I like that one.

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I remember that movie so Joe's traveling to the east coast right now with his family.

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We were getting updates on the plane.

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Everything was going well.

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He was a little stressed out.

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Then we found out he had assisted family help with a mother-in-law, which I kind of got mad at him about that.

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Changes everything.

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He was giving us all this grief about taking two kids across country and he had a third family member helping.

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So way easier, way easier.

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But Joe may be chiming in, depending on where he's at, if he gets where he's going and stuff, probably maybe through Instagram.

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So keep an eye out for him there.

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Thank you everybody who's tuning in on Instagram.

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We are live there.

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We're live on YouTube.

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Uh, we are also live on Facebook.

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I said what the hell, let's, let's, let's try it again.

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Let's see what happens, so who knows what will come about with that.

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And also let's, as always, give thanks to the golf stop, the indoor track man facility on St Rose Parkway here in West Henderson.

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Proud supporters and sponsors of the show.

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We love what they're doing there.

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If you have not been at the golf stop lately, please go.

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Just don't go on a Sunday, because I was there eating at broken yolk and now that better, buzz is open and broken yolk, uh.

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There's no parking, there's no parking.

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So good luck, uh, but otherwise go there.

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Go 24 hours if you want.

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It's open 24 hours.

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Great, uh, member benefits for being there, so go check them out.

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Also, special thanks to roars golf he's another show sponsor of ours and the lots of things called superstore.

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But my favorite, scott russo from unwritten law, letting us use unwritten laws harmonic as our intro.

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Thank you so much for that.

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So how are you, fellas, doing this evening?

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Doing well.

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It's hoodie Hoodie.

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Weather has arrived.

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Dude.

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Officially.

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Look at this, I got it right here.

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Yeah, I got.

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I put a bunch of new swag up on the Vegas golf network site for all the members.

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A lot of hoodies on there.

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They have.

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They have some lightweight hoodie t-shirt options, so I stacked the deck with those.

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Got a real nice adidas adidas fleece, um sorry beds, um a hoodie that we got the the joker on and some, uh, some other stuff.

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So, uh, members, vegas golf network members, check that out.

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It's open.

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Already have a couple orders from some people.

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So thank you for that.

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Got beautiful golf courses in the chat, as always.

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Thank you.

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When chad with him, dude the cheese curds were money man.

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I picked them up from joe finally mine yet.

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Wow, yeah, white cheddar, some of the best cheese I've ever had.

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I'm like I've got some in my shopping cart right now.

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I'm about to order them oh, they're that good that you're ordering direct from Wisconsin.

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Yep.

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Cheese and cactus snob right here.

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Yes.

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Did you see the cactus Jeremy brought back from California?

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Did?

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You have to go through the environmental checkpoint.

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No, they examined that for you.

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Is it okay if we take this out of the state?

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He's like, yeah, just don't bring anything in here.

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So yeah, we're good, we're good jeremy's ever-expanding cactus garden, yeah looking good man so beds.

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What's what's new in the uh in the travis matthew world?

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I mean really a lot.

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I would say biggest thing for this year was definitely just the kind of the relaunch and just marketing behind our footwear.

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So all the campaigns, marketing campaigns, advertising, so just the transition from Quader switching over to Travis Matthew, full Same thing with women's We've seen like a huge success and actually kind of like I think it over, kind of caught us off guard on how well our women's were going to be received right off the bat.

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So just the women's launch our footwear and then actually just a lot more exposure to the international markets.

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So I mean, even I think it was, I can't remember last year or two years ago, it was the last year that the open was at St Andrews.

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So we, I think during or due to COVID or maybe some issues with getting everything, we were trying to have an actual storefront there open before the open, but unfortunately we missed it by a couple weeks.

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But that's there.

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So actually how that came, was they?

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St andrews approached us as a company and just said hey, you guys are, you know, crushing it with sales.

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You're our number one apparel company and we want to really kind of push you guys.

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And so now there is literally a storefront right off 18th green.

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Um, you walk right in there, uh, after you play the round of golf and it's pretty cool.

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It's all exclusive Travis Matthews, st Andrews collaboration.

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So really just touching base.

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Europe, uh, our Asian markets, korean markets.

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Yeah, it's crazy how, you know, we've known the brand for a long time here in the States, but it's cool to see, uh, you know, the expansion excitement for us just as we leave the country.

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Hell yeah let's go.

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Yeah, jeremy's a big Travis Matthew guy.

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He wears it to sleep.

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I love the hoodies, the polos.

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It's nice working for Callaway.

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Now, you know, since Travis Matthew's part of the family, I can wear Travisew polos when I do fitting, so that's nice.

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Um, shoes are comfy, shorts, pants, everything is amazing.

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What's, uh, what's new coming up with with that you can let us in on?

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honestly, I think that it's just the the evolution of our company.

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You know, everyone, always, just always, just I always go back, like you know 10 years ago when we were a little bit more of a tailored fit.

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So everyone kind of still thinks that, oh, it's a great company, but I can't fit into it.

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So we're really trying to still combat that and get that into.

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You know, the not the small guy and European cut.

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It's like this is a classic American cut.

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Like this is a classic American cut but at the same time really just keeping the same, I guess, design and concept behind the brand without getting too far out.

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So that's where I think it's been really cool over the years.

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I mean this is my seventh year with Travis, matthew and you know, everyone knows the chest stripe and it's like kind of one of those that it.

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It seems like it's repeated, but every single design is exclusive to each polo, so it's like we might have a different print on one, but you'll never see that repeated where I just feel like there's other companies that we kind of compete against that, really just kind of like, hey, this is our world, we're going to stay here and or they go too crazy and too loud and then they lose that customer base.

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So I we've just keep evolving over the years and really just picking up Now.

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It's kind of crazy to say that the youthful crowd so can't reveal yet, but it sounds like we've got a younger guy in the works for 25.

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I think that that will really be a big name in the PGA Tour and then I think that'll be kind of like our, not a replacement for Rom, but while that's getting figured out, at least have another big name up there with Sam Burns and the rest of the crew.

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Awesome, gigi's in the house.

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Yeah, so you said replace Rom.

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Is he no longer going to wear TM?

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No, so it sounds like it's just contracts, you know.

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So he's still playing callaway, he's still wearing travis matthew and then actually at the same time I guess I don't really watch a lot of live, but, um, I follow his, um, his team on instagram, social media, and it's crazy that it seemed like in the last year he must have just said, hey, this is what we're wearing.

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So now everyone on that team is head to toe and travis matthew, so it was kind of cool to just see.

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You know, random guys.

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So we're still not paying them.

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I think you know as far as that team goes, but I know rom's still under contract with callaway and us.

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I think they're just trying to figure out logistics, whether it's pga or how many events he has to play.

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So nothing's broken there.

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I don't think that's going away.

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I think we're just really trying to figure out a way to get that product and able to like, advertise and market that did you guys see a uh like, from a company standpoint, a decline in any sales from rom going to live?

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we haven't had you on for a while, so I I honestly don't think we saw that and really at the end of the day, I think I've.

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You know, I've listened to enough of your guys's shows and other podcasts as well, where I just really feel like that PGA Tour player doesn't really have as much of an impact, as they did for the consumer, you know, even 10 years ago.

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So I mean, if you put a pair of whatever shoes on one player, there might be a handful of people that notice, notice it, but I don't think they're running to the store and saying, okay, you know, I look back on like the jordan speed era where he came out with the under armor shoe.

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Everyone was trying to get that and it was sold out.

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Same thing with, like you know, adidas back in the day with um, um.

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You know either sergio or um I can't think of his name, liv Flair.

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DJ yes, so it's just like.

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those were the days where you could put a polo and it was exclusive.

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And now I think there's just so much marketing with YouTube and social media where you don't necessarily have to lean on those players as much.

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But it's nice that when Ron wins the Masters you can say, hey, he wore our shoe, he was head to toe in our product.

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So it's kind of nice to use that as exposure.

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But I don't think we're really seeing a decline by any means.

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Do you think that's happening with all the brands?

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Like the players driving the gear like Tiger used to driveike is just not as much anymore.

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I mean, we're all kind of the same spot there as far as, like you know, golf junkies, and I mean I always put myself in the shoe and if I see like some, like I would say the jailbird was one of those that maybe caused a little ruckus and everyone was like, hey, this is, maybe there's something here, but otherwise everyone has and you know, nothing that you can grab off the shelf is what they're playing.

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So at the end of the day they can say, hey, I'm playing you know this company's irons and I won a major.

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But is it that company's irons?

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and how much?

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different and tailored to that player.

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Is it from anything?

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You can get off the store?

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yeah, that's true, it's wild out there, man, it's.

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It's, it's the the ever-evolving marketing and sales, how it's it's done now with this new era of post-covid it's, it's wild.

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So, uh, if anybody in the chat, if anybody watching live or anybody wants to ask beds any questions, please throw them out there.

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Uh, he is our, our vegas rep here in the vegas area.

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You handle some other areas too, don't you?

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yeah, so I cover all of southern nevada, basically las vegas, uh, mesquite and then laughlin, and then actually have a couple of accounts down in Havasu, but not a huge market down there.

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So I'm usually within an hour and a half.

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Yep, so he's our regional guy here in Nevada.

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So if you've got any questions about anything what shops are carrying the gear, where to go get it all send in your questions.

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Ben's going to hang out with us the whole show and chat.

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He's filling in big shoes to fill, you know, with, with joe not being here, so, uh, but we'll get to some topics that we wanted to talk about tonight.

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Um, one of the big things that happened vegas wise and kind of on a big scale, uh, the shriners.

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Uh, children's hospitals pulled out of their sponsorship.

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I I don't know if it's like all of the pga events, because I know there's another shriners event.

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Uh, I don't know if it's like all of the PGA events, because I know there's another Shriners event.

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So I don't know if they ended all their PGA Tour relationships or just the one in Vegas, but the Vegas Golf Tournament no longer has a sponsor and nobody really knows what's going on with it.

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So we don't know if there's going to be a fall event next year with it.

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Uh, so we don't know if there's going to be a fall event next year based on you know, dan, and mine's experience out there a couple weeks ago and my little rants on what vegas needs to do for golf.

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Um, you know, I'm not saying shriners was listening to what I had to say.

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But you know, I mentioned it and they squash it, so maybe, maybe I bent the ear the right person, uh, but yet we're a sponsorless golf tournament right now, so we'll see what happens with that beds.

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I'm throwing it to you.

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What do you think?

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I mean, I think we've kind of seen, you know, maybe at least me personally, I don't know I kind of saw this coming and without even any inside information, it was just like year over year and maybe they were, they had a heads up or maybe it was the last minute thing.

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I don't really have any inside knowledge, but I I think I have heard a little bit maybe talks of them like possibly replacing it with maybe it's not a pga event, but we might get a usam or a lpga, um or a senior major, something like that, where they'll say, hey, until we can figure out you know when and how we can bring back another, like you know I I think that vegas should just blow a pga event out of the water and like compete with waste management.

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In my opinion, but, um, you know it's all about finding a schedule and finding a good home, but yeah, I don't know it's kind of a bummer, just because it's always nice to well, it used to be really nice when you could actually go there and see all the a-list players and you know watching right there, and I was setting up for the merch tent last week instead of being like oh wow, they're, they're playing.

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It was oh, they still play golf, they still play golf exactly whoa.

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Okay, a beautiful golf course is chiming in saying, uh, shriners is a pretty fantastic system that supports people.

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Without health care coverage, I'm sure they would not have backed out without good reason.

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They literally get healthcare.

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People can't afford it, yeah.

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So what?

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What I had heard is, after the pga tour changed, the fall series made it to where the big players have no reason to come, uh, and then they started charging.

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The pga tour started charging more to hosts.

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Um, that it just is like, okay, you want us to pay more, but you're asking us to put out an inferior product and the numbers just didn't jive for them.

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You know it's, it's fantastic exposure for them.

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But you know, like, like he was saying, like Mike's saying, you know they're they're not out there trying to get customers.

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You know they're, they're it's it's it's an ambassador, but they're they're out there letting people know what they're doing, so people will donate.

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You know they, they fundraise.

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That's what they do.

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That's what this tournament is.

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They have so many different fundraisers.

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That's what they.

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That's how they do what they do and how they're, why they're so amazing at it.

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So when the pga tour comes and says, hey, you know you're gonna have to pony up a little bit more to keep this, and they're like, why, why would we continue to pay more when you've stripped the field of anybody that draws, I mean we had to go get lexi, for god's sakes, uh, to try and draw some.

00:16:23.849 --> 00:16:25.515
No disrespect to uh to to try and draw some.

00:16:25.515 --> 00:16:29.730
No disrespect to Lexi, uh, but to try and draw some attention out here.

00:16:29.730 --> 00:16:36.394
And without that this year I mean it was, it was a week showing tournament wise, yeah.

00:16:36.841 --> 00:16:44.725
It's just, it's the time of year, man, if they were to move it around Palm Springs waste management, that West coast swing, it would be totally different.

00:16:44.725 --> 00:16:52.047
Then it would probably be overshadowed by waste waste management.

00:16:52.047 --> 00:16:53.032
But I don't know, I mean it's vegas, like you know.

00:16:53.052 --> 00:17:02.340
You know you're coming here to party, so they need to take advantage of that I mean when the super bowl was here last year and live was here, and I mean that place was packed.

00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:07.961
So and you know, you know, people come to vegas for the super bowl, whether it's here or not.

00:17:07.961 --> 00:17:19.271
So you, you know, and that's phoenix gets those crowds, it's, you know, good weather, big crowds and uh, it's entertainment and they could do that here.

00:17:21.346 --> 00:17:22.529
Yeah but it was a good run though.

00:17:22.529 --> 00:17:29.128
It was a good run though, you know, the 19 year sponsorship or whatever I think it ran.

00:17:29.128 --> 00:17:39.844
You know, I remember when it was like the Las Vegas Invitational and then it was the Invences for a minute and then I think one year it was the Michigan or Michelin Championships.

00:17:39.864 --> 00:17:42.866
Justin Timberlake you know.

00:17:42.928 --> 00:17:44.864
so it was a good run with Shriners, you know.

00:17:44.864 --> 00:17:46.569
I agree with you, though, jeremy.

00:17:46.569 --> 00:17:48.055
I think it was a good run with Shriners.

00:17:48.055 --> 00:17:49.559
I agree with you, though, jeremy.

00:17:49.559 --> 00:18:08.026
I think it has something to do with the timing and where it's at in the calendar year, because it's not only just with our tournament, but it seems like there's a lot of other tournaments, too, that have just completely lost sponsorships, and new sponsors come in, like last year we had what Fortinet or something like that, yep, and then year we had what fort net or something like that, yep, and then they're gone.

00:18:08.026 --> 00:18:08.547
And what was it last week?

00:18:08.567 --> 00:18:09.127
now it's I, I don't remember.

00:18:09.147 --> 00:18:28.468
Yeah, we were, yeah, it was some, and then sanderson farms and, like you know, everything changes, like every two, three years it's, and it's always around the tournaments, around this time of year, the fall season or the wraparound season it's gonna be the dollar loan center sponsored by lee's liquor, pga tour open yeah it could be.

00:18:29.130 --> 00:18:38.682
It could be uh, so luke's tuning in on instagram and he says I mean big question is what they're going to do about waste management.

00:18:38.682 --> 00:18:40.705
Last year was beyond a shit show.

00:18:40.705 --> 00:18:43.813
So I I was reading an article.

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They were saying that there's no longer any day passes, so you have a ticket now for friday.

00:18:50.688 --> 00:18:52.030
You have now a ticket for saturday.

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You now have a ticket for sunday, because they said what happened was there was that bad weather came through last year with the rain and everybody just decided not to go.

00:19:00.667 --> 00:19:05.515
So all those people came the following day and it was just chaos.

00:19:05.515 --> 00:19:06.961
They had way too many people there.

00:19:07.722 --> 00:19:14.902
They did open up a new entrance to help people get to 16 quicker without having to go through the main entrance.

00:19:14.902 --> 00:19:17.008
So they are trying to do some things.

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I think they know that it's it's gotten a little bit out of hand and, uh, it's it's going to start making it less appealing for some of the big stars to go there.

00:19:27.155 --> 00:20:02.976
I mean, the only reason I they're going to still go now is one Cause it's a it's a elevated event and you know the money's there, but you take that away and it's just it's just not appealing to, I think, the casual golf fan who wants to go sit next to a guy who's pissing himself Cause he's wearing a diaper, cause he's had 14 beers and doesn't want to lose his seat Me I mean mean, I still wow, I definitely want to go and check it out for sure.

00:20:03.834 --> 00:20:04.279
Oh, I do too.

00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:04.704
I've never.

00:20:04.704 --> 00:20:05.930
I mean it's close.

00:20:05.930 --> 00:20:12.330
It's not a terribly long drive for us, you know it's four and a half hours max have you guys ever been there no.

00:20:12.330 --> 00:20:17.527
I've been across the street but I've never been like on the golf course or at the tournament.

00:20:18.689 --> 00:20:25.846
I think you played it no I've never played it, um, but I I'm gonna, it's, it's, it's.

00:20:25.846 --> 00:20:52.915
But it's funny, like I have a buddy from college that lived right down the street for a long time, so we'd always go down there and then, you know, just basically walk down to the event, but he would say, like we'd play it a week or two after and it was really nice, you know tour conditions and everything, but he's like they take down those grandstands and it's really nothing you know like Pretty basic Picture that course, but then you take away all of that and it's just, I feel like it's just like a normal desert course.

00:20:54.286 --> 00:20:54.928
I've heard this one.

00:20:56.393 --> 00:20:59.145
Hey, did you, ben?

00:20:59.145 --> 00:21:05.099
You didn't see this, but I shared in our chat that aerial photo of Las Vegas Country Club back in the 1969.

00:21:06.486 --> 00:21:07.429
Oh yeah, that was cool.

00:21:07.429 --> 00:21:08.773
See that picture.

00:21:09.768 --> 00:21:11.634
It was just completely flat with no trees.

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It was hilarious.

00:21:15.213 --> 00:21:18.971
Not a tree on the property and what was that building that was next to it?

00:21:18.971 --> 00:21:20.717
Was it that tall apartment building, or?

00:21:21.185 --> 00:21:23.452
no, that was the, that was the hilton or west.

00:21:23.452 --> 00:21:28.326
Oh, that okay yeah, I think it was the international back then.

00:21:28.987 --> 00:21:33.053
Yeah those pictures of vegas back in the day were so cool.

00:21:33.153 --> 00:21:34.454
Yeah.

00:21:34.454 --> 00:21:43.317
So BGC chiming in says French players will always be incentivized to go high televised and big payouts.

00:21:43.317 --> 00:21:47.612
My honest opinion is Destination Golf are wildly overrated and overpriced.

00:21:47.612 --> 00:21:52.073
Eh, Everything is overpriced right now, though.

00:21:52.286 --> 00:21:52.846
I mean good.

00:21:53.549 --> 00:21:55.134
God, good God.

00:21:55.134 --> 00:21:59.150
I saw a $270 price tag to play Arroyo the other day.

00:22:01.412 --> 00:22:04.355
Yeah, Wow, wow.

00:22:06.178 --> 00:22:10.230
I Sorry about that.

00:22:10.230 --> 00:22:19.428
All right, so let's see After Shriners is done, we got Bez done.

00:22:19.428 --> 00:22:23.874
Other PGA Tour news came out and I didn't have much time today.

00:22:23.874 --> 00:22:28.359
One I was watching the Yankees just throttle the Dodgers tonight.

00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:36.086
So that kind of preoccupied my time it's the only joy I'm going to get out of this series tonight have preoccupied my time.

00:22:36.086 --> 00:22:37.911
It's the only joy I'm going to get out of the series tonight.

00:22:37.911 --> 00:22:40.998
So, uh, you can see we have, uh you know, two dodger fans in in the in the show tonight.

00:22:40.998 --> 00:22:43.205
So it's the only jabs I'm going to get.

00:22:43.205 --> 00:22:46.478
I've been, I've been taking on the chin like a champ for three days.

00:22:46.478 --> 00:22:49.366
So, uh, the bats were unleashed tonight.

00:22:49.366 --> 00:22:53.575
So, uh, what's cliff say here, national's asking 180 for what?

00:22:53.575 --> 00:22:55.519
When was that?

00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.749
I?

00:22:57.788 --> 00:22:59.413
saw that on a Saturday.

00:22:59.875 --> 00:23:04.134
For locals oh you got me wrong.

00:23:04.134 --> 00:23:06.865
That is not cool at all.

00:23:07.046 --> 00:23:08.310
That is way too much.

00:23:09.205 --> 00:23:24.988
I think I remember still being at the Revere years ago where we were asking like 179 on Lexington and just being like that was like a reach, that was March or October, and you're still like.

00:23:28.031 --> 00:23:29.676
It's probably in better shape back then too.

00:23:29.676 --> 00:23:32.204
That's insane, cliff.

00:23:32.204 --> 00:23:32.915
I can't believe that.

00:23:34.286 --> 00:23:35.067
Wow, yeah.

00:23:35.067 --> 00:23:39.134
Cliff said Saturday yep, wow, no, that is so.

00:23:39.535 --> 00:23:46.835
Oh, that breaks my heart seriously, I'm not even gonna be able to afford to play golf anymore I know that's.

00:23:46.835 --> 00:23:55.233
It's so sad join the golf stop just got to take all the golf trips.

00:23:55.835 --> 00:23:56.676
Top courses in the world.

00:23:56.676 --> 00:23:59.933
Yeah, exactly, the only golf I play is on a golf trip.

00:24:00.424 --> 00:24:03.474
Yeah, I'm just going to practice and go on golf trips.

00:24:05.290 --> 00:24:09.092
I know about 100 courses that are in better shape than National, that are under $180.

00:24:10.405 --> 00:24:14.518
Luke just said I walked Riviera here in Daytona today for $26.

00:24:14.518 --> 00:24:17.655
Well, fuck off.

00:24:18.117 --> 00:24:24.538
Okay, okay, thank you, I'm glad you said it, just kidding just kidding.

00:24:24.577 --> 00:24:27.224
That's, I'm, that's pure cheese curd for sustenance.

00:24:29.709 --> 00:24:30.971
Oh wow, 26.

00:24:30.971 --> 00:24:33.595
Yeah, I'd walk for 26 bucks.

00:24:33.595 --> 00:24:37.361
Right, I'd walk some of the shit here in town for 26 bucks in August.

00:24:37.361 --> 00:24:42.535
Yeah, that God is just, even when.

00:24:42.555 --> 00:24:45.191
I when I first moved here, like that first summer I played.

00:24:45.191 --> 00:24:53.971
I probably played 80 rounds that summer and it was like we'd go to Revere and it's like 35 bucks in the afternoon to play or anywhere it bucks in the afternoon to play or anywhere.

00:24:53.971 --> 00:24:54.756
It was like 30 to 50 bucks.

00:24:54.836 --> 00:25:12.309
Now it's it's like 100 and there's no, there's no summer discount 29 after three was like my saving grace that that got me playing a lot of golf, because it was like I can get off at four, get to the course 430, paid 29 and get in 18 holes in two and a half hours.

00:25:12.309 --> 00:25:19.560
And it was like, wow, yeah, that's like trying to find $9 prime rib on the strip.

00:25:21.063 --> 00:25:21.743
Yeah.

00:25:21.743 --> 00:25:24.971
The season used to be.

00:25:24.971 --> 00:25:31.710
It was like 69 on Lex and 49 or 59 on Concord for locals and that was and then we.

00:25:31.710 --> 00:25:35.537
I think we bumped it up to 75, one one year, and everyone was like you know who?

00:25:35.537 --> 00:25:35.876
And non were like, okay, we got to stick to 75, one one year.

00:25:35.876 --> 00:25:38.671
And everyone was like you know who and non we're like, okay, we got to stick to 69.

00:25:38.671 --> 00:25:53.736
But now it's crazy, like people would jump on playing any course for 65 bucks oh yeah oh right, here uh, bgc have three spots at the win, november 21st for free 99.

00:25:54.215 --> 00:26:00.105
well, that's jeremy dan and me sorry, joe I'm in, sold those.

00:26:00.145 --> 00:26:01.529
You don't have those spots anymore.

00:26:01.529 --> 00:26:04.558
Please, yes, please.

00:26:04.558 --> 00:26:06.344
What is november 21st?

00:26:06.344 --> 00:26:14.654
We got to look at the calendar real quick, make sure that's the f1 race, oh wow, oh wow, oh wait.

00:26:14.654 --> 00:26:15.656
That's october.

00:26:15.656 --> 00:26:17.179
Let's see november 21st.

00:26:17.179 --> 00:26:19.060
Oh, nothing on the schedule.

00:26:19.060 --> 00:26:24.176
Let's fill that in, mike, please check, check and check.

00:26:24.176 --> 00:26:26.785
Sorry, joe, he's too bougie for win anymore.

00:26:26.785 --> 00:26:27.967
It's I've played.

00:26:27.967 --> 00:26:41.159
I get to play for free all the time, so uh that's right, he did play it not too long ago, huh yeah, with the golden knights that's right uh see, chris, uh, vgm member chiming in.

00:26:41.199 --> 00:26:46.171
It's good to know somebody in sun city, summerland, 48 for highland or palm valley.

00:26:46.171 --> 00:26:48.655
Now see, I would pay 48 bucks to play.

00:26:48.655 --> 00:26:51.708
Yeah, for highland falls all day long.

00:26:51.708 --> 00:26:55.516
He's probably on a dog walk airport.

00:26:55.576 --> 00:26:56.238
Airplane talks.

00:26:56.238 --> 00:26:57.326
That's what you should have done today.

00:26:57.326 --> 00:26:58.771
He's done.

00:26:58.771 --> 00:27:01.201
Airplane talks uh, back home.

00:27:01.201 --> 00:27:06.333
During the summer my local muni does a twilight where you pay 22 for nine and can play till you're done for the day.

00:27:06.333 --> 00:27:11.250
That's sick, yeah, where's home.

00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:12.133
Where's home luke?

00:27:12.133 --> 00:27:13.115
Yeah, where's back home?

00:27:13.115 --> 00:27:16.294
Because that's that may get invaded here real soon.

00:27:16.294 --> 00:27:20.230
Courses look amazing.

00:27:20.230 --> 00:27:29.528
Yeah, I was out at Highland Falls the windiest day of the year and coldest day of the years of our last week and it looked great.

00:27:29.528 --> 00:27:32.253
It did look good Long.

00:27:32.273 --> 00:27:32.996
Island, long Island.

00:27:32.996 --> 00:27:42.951
Yeah Dang, there's $22 golf in Long Island I was going, was gonna say what's his local muni like shanakak hills?

00:27:42.951 --> 00:27:43.692
That'd be sick.

00:27:43.692 --> 00:27:47.317
Yeah, I used to walk shenny for 22 dollars, play all day.

00:27:48.179 --> 00:27:56.556
It was back in the 40s though, you know, and wow all right yeah I'm completely jealous of that.

00:27:56.596 --> 00:27:58.880
I would hell, yeah, you kidding me.

00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.632
New york has got some unbelievable golf.

00:28:01.731 --> 00:28:11.268
It might, might be the best state for golf oh, there's so much good stuff just a little north of the city, north, northeast of the northwest of the city, oh, my gosh yeah, so I'm.

00:28:11.268 --> 00:28:14.176
I'm waiting to go visit emma when it's golf season.

00:28:14.176 --> 00:28:16.423
Oh yeah, so I'm waiting to go visit Emma when it's golf season.

00:28:16.423 --> 00:28:23.617
Oh yeah, so I'm like you guys hang out in the city, I'm going to go find a golf course that's, you know, $24 on a Thursday afternoon.

00:28:23.617 --> 00:28:27.791
Yeah, we know who you are, luke, sorry.

00:28:29.645 --> 00:28:30.990
Yeah, right on for doing that too, luke.

00:28:30.990 --> 00:28:31.673
That was cool man.

00:28:31.673 --> 00:28:38.575
Yeah, we haven't not heard about it ever, so it's no, haven't, we haven't not heard about it ever, so it's no.

00:28:38.615 --> 00:28:39.778
Haven't been to wisconsin either.

00:28:39.778 --> 00:28:40.181
We're gonna.

00:28:40.181 --> 00:28:41.444
We're gonna make a trip out there.

00:28:42.247 --> 00:28:44.211
That's definitely, that's definitely up there too.

00:28:44.573 --> 00:28:46.116
We know the golf is amazing out there.

00:28:46.116 --> 00:28:50.713
It's just everything is it just sucks right now.

00:28:50.713 --> 00:28:54.951
It just you know it just sucks it, do you?

00:28:54.951 --> 00:28:56.513
When is the bus gonna happen?

00:28:56.513 --> 00:28:58.125
I'll ask you guys that when?

00:28:58.125 --> 00:28:59.409
How much longer?

00:28:59.409 --> 00:29:13.888
There's going to get a point where the new players that have come into the game and that are playing, that are taking up a lot of these tea times you know as with us, we all are, but there's going to be a point where they're going to be like this is too much, I can't afford this anymore the problem.

00:29:14.068 --> 00:29:20.039
I think it's it's not like this outside of in a lot of places, it's not, it's it's here.

00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:29.076
I think Phoenix, scottsdale has got hit too, but like going up to Utah, it's like five or $10 more, like it's the same as when I lived there.

00:29:29.076 --> 00:29:31.471
It's not, it's the same, it's just here.

00:29:32.133 --> 00:29:37.625
It's just I think they're just yeah, I agree.

00:29:37.665 --> 00:29:43.478
Agree, it's a destination and I think that it doesn't help that our inventory of courses is shrinking, so people can get it doesn't help at all.

00:29:43.565 --> 00:29:44.607
You want to pay this, then?

00:29:45.048 --> 00:29:46.833
where are you gonna go, yeah?

00:29:47.173 --> 00:29:54.076
I'm gonna throw this up there just because it's cliff and we love cliff, but uh, uh sand valley is better than bandandon.

00:29:54.517 --> 00:29:55.038
Who said that?

00:29:55.097 --> 00:30:01.345
last week somebody told Joe that that was Tyler from Fade and Fairway.

00:30:01.345 --> 00:30:07.258
I haven't been so I can't say, but I will.

00:30:07.258 --> 00:30:10.935
Once that happens, I will be glad to voice my opinion.

00:30:12.311 --> 00:30:14.565
I can't remember if Cliff played all the courses.

00:30:14.565 --> 00:30:19.291
I'm trying to remember his posts, but I think he did.

00:30:20.326 --> 00:30:20.907
I can't imagine.

00:30:20.907 --> 00:30:21.048
Why.

00:30:21.189 --> 00:30:22.707
Cliff Cliff, you played them all right.

00:30:22.988 --> 00:30:24.114
I wouldn't play all of them.

00:30:25.681 --> 00:30:31.328
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you did oh yeah, because I remember saying I wanted to talk to him about his experience on Aledo.

00:30:31.911 --> 00:30:35.976
Luke, the water costs out here are ridiculous.

00:30:35.976 --> 00:30:38.092
The restrictions are insane.

00:30:38.092 --> 00:30:43.570
The golf courses are getting hammered on it's wild.

00:30:43.570 --> 00:30:47.034
That's why we will have no new golf courses.

00:30:48.384 --> 00:30:48.625
Beds.

00:30:48.625 --> 00:30:49.509
Have you been to Bandon?

00:30:50.732 --> 00:30:54.089
No, three times no, I've been to.

00:30:54.089 --> 00:30:57.454
Portland and then in Bend.

00:30:57.976 --> 00:30:58.257
Okay.

00:31:00.625 --> 00:31:02.653
Wow, Cliffy's played Sand Valley three.

00:31:02.653 --> 00:31:04.511
You've been to Sand Valley three times.

00:31:05.046 --> 00:31:06.275
Might be banned in three times.

00:31:06.275 --> 00:31:06.678
I don't know.

00:31:08.769 --> 00:31:10.034
I think he's only been there Least favorite.

00:31:12.605 --> 00:31:14.031
Have you played Lock Label?

00:31:14.031 --> 00:31:18.690
I've heard a lot of good things about that course lito is okay.

00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:20.193
Least favorite course at sand valley.

00:31:20.193 --> 00:31:24.605
Oh, interesting, so much good stuff coming in guys.

00:31:24.605 --> 00:31:25.948
Thank you so much for all the chats.

00:31:25.948 --> 00:31:31.852
Uh, the other pga tour stuff that I want to talk about is they're they're uh reducing qualifiers.

00:31:31.852 --> 00:31:33.016
They're getting rid of some money qualifiers.

00:31:33.016 --> 00:31:35.063
I think it I have to look and see like I said, I didn't have a lot of time to of some money qualifiers.

00:31:35.063 --> 00:31:35.805
I think it I have to look and see.

00:31:35.805 --> 00:31:37.189
Like I said, I didn't have a lot of time to look into it.

00:31:37.189 --> 00:31:47.307
But uh, I think the elevated events they're not having the cues because there's already a limited size field, but they're getting rid of some other ones.

00:31:47.307 --> 00:31:57.749
The they're talking about reducing field sizes from 155 to 144, reducing field sizes for daylight conditions, which I understand.

00:31:57.749 --> 00:32:03.753
That makes sense and stuff like that, but it kind of looked a little livy.

00:32:04.565 --> 00:32:06.500
There's also the FedEx Cup.

00:32:06.500 --> 00:32:08.551
They're dropping from 125 to 100.

00:32:09.888 --> 00:32:19.516
Well, they said the second place position in majors was going to get more points, and then the other ones were going to get more points, and then the the other ones were going to get less.

00:32:19.516 --> 00:32:23.681
But yeah, then they're capping q, school cards and everything.

00:32:26.124 --> 00:32:43.595
Yeah, seems like they were trying to do to go the opposite way before, like make it more accessible, but now it's sort of well, you get these, you know, big events, big money, small field, I mean you have to yeah, the qualifier for that is playing well on tour.

00:32:44.576 --> 00:32:47.006
That's your qualifier, so I, I, I get those.

00:32:47.006 --> 00:32:49.588
Uh, the other ones I'm not sure about.

00:32:49.608 --> 00:32:52.051
I mean we were.

00:32:52.051 --> 00:33:01.530
I know Kat was telling us that uh, courses that host USGA events have to donate the course.

00:33:01.530 --> 00:33:04.733
I don't know how that works for PGA tour events.

00:33:04.733 --> 00:33:07.634
I know the entry fees to get in those qualifiers is not cheap.

00:33:07.634 --> 00:33:16.426
Um, you know, like the even the Thursday qualifier to advance to get into the Monday qualifier, I mean you're spending a lot of money to get into those.

00:33:16.426 --> 00:33:18.931
So I I don't know where all that money goes.

00:33:18.931 --> 00:33:23.365
Um, there's no prize purse in those events.

00:33:23.365 --> 00:33:25.913
But do you know, is there in qualifiers?

00:33:26.234 --> 00:33:48.597
it's just yeah it's just to get to the next round, right to get to the yeah so where all those entry fees are going, because I know they're way more than what the vgn is charging, and uh yeah, a lot more people are playing them, so oh yeah, I mean it's especially if you're not a pga member or you're not, you don't have status or any kind of thing.

00:33:49.741 --> 00:34:03.346
I mean you'll have to ask katie what the price was for him to get in the thursday and the monday, because I mean, that's that's where a lot of these guys fall short on the mini tours is because they don't have the funding.

00:34:03.346 --> 00:34:05.553
I mean, you don't if you don't have a sponsor.

00:34:05.553 --> 00:34:11.228
Uh, you know you're, you're forking that out of your own pocket.

00:34:11.228 --> 00:34:11.469
It's.

00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:12.413
It's not cheap.

00:34:12.413 --> 00:34:22.697
It's not cheap, especially nowadays with how expensive is and rental cars and hotels and food yeah yeah, I just rather expensive as walk.

00:34:22.697 --> 00:34:29.460
Walk for 22 sounds so much more appealing so we'll see what happens with that, uh.

00:34:29.481 --> 00:34:30.905
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00:35:10.835 --> 00:35:11.817
All right, beth.

00:35:11.817 --> 00:35:12.498
What's the the?

00:35:12.498 --> 00:35:13.980
I know you got a new bag.

00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:15.985
You got a new bag full of how's the finger?

00:35:15.985 --> 00:35:16.427
No?

00:35:16.487 --> 00:35:18.172
it's still on the fritz, if you will.

00:35:18.172 --> 00:35:26.333
So some reason right at the base of my knuckle woke up, like it was actually like 10 days before the vgn event.

00:35:26.333 --> 00:35:29.027
So I'm thinking, okay, it's, it's just a jammed finger.

00:35:29.027 --> 00:35:37.306
I have no idea how, but try to work on it, doing everything I could, icing it, taking advil, trying to just get the swelling down.

00:35:37.306 --> 00:35:41.806
And then every single day I'd get home from work just put a club in my hand like, come on, today is the day.

00:35:41.806 --> 00:35:43.769
Today is the day but it was just.

00:35:43.951 --> 00:35:51.436
It was that left, you know, my lead index finger, where it would like trigger it just enough, where it took like all the strength out of my left arm.

00:35:51.436 --> 00:36:07.550
So I even gave it till friday night and I was like I could probably make this work but at the same time, when it's cold and windy, one little hosel or a toey shot is that gonna make it just be like I can't.

00:36:07.670 --> 00:36:16.264
I can't hit so instead of pushing it like I normally do, gave it a little time, it's, but I I think I can finally hit a ball.

00:36:16.264 --> 00:36:23.048
But I I have that brand new set of clubs I've had for probably a month now that I haven't been able to hit yet, so all right what did you?

00:36:23.128 --> 00:36:23.349
what?

00:36:23.349 --> 00:36:24.311
What's the new sticks?

00:36:25.293 --> 00:36:27.878
so I went uh, so shout out, juju.

00:36:28.826 --> 00:36:43.514
Um, he got me fit for the uh callaway, apex, uh, cvs, and then then the kind of switched up my woods in the bag so just went over to the new driver.

00:36:43.824 --> 00:36:55.076
But then I've always just had like a fear of fairway woods for some reason, and I think it stems from like college, where that was back in the day where seven woods were kind of like the hybrid.

00:36:55.076 --> 00:37:00.461
But then the rescue club was like it was literally my rescue from getting away from fairway woods.

00:37:00.461 --> 00:37:03.168
So I always played like a two hybrid and then a three.

00:37:03.168 --> 00:37:14.510
But what I was missing is that like 280 yard shot on like par fives being able to go for it, you know, or 270 or something, because it was like 270 max if I ripped that two.

00:37:14.510 --> 00:37:20.114
So we switched it up and went driver three wood and then went to the five utility wood.

00:37:20.114 --> 00:37:36.157
So now it's actually like a good set makeup for what I'm trying to do and then obviously new shafts and just being fit for my current game where my last set was free daughter and practicing and playing like four times a week.

00:37:36.858 --> 00:38:00.773
So now it's like we just need to get something a little bit more of my favor nice that utility wood is, it's good I'm, I'm I'm debating switching to that over my three and five wood, just because I can hit it a little higher and almost just as far and it's so much easier to hit is it the same as the previous?

00:38:00.934 --> 00:38:01.394
uw?

00:38:01.394 --> 00:38:02.898
Yeah, or did they?

00:38:02.898 --> 00:38:03.927
Did they change it quite a bit?

00:38:03.927 --> 00:38:04.871
Or is it the same thing?

00:38:04.891 --> 00:38:10.070
yeah, it's pretty much the same, basically like a hybrid between where we wouldn't hybrid.

00:38:10.070 --> 00:38:14.409
Yeah, I always liked it because it almost looked like a just a tiny fairway wood.

00:38:14.449 --> 00:38:31.608
It didn't feel like hybrid it would remind you of a three wood from days, days long past old school three wood, that's what it is uh yeah I find that high swing speed guys seem to prefer the hybrids or driver iron over the fairways.

00:38:31.608 --> 00:38:41.900
I'm lower swing speed and I love my fairway woods I would say it's the opposite um hang on look at that last one.

00:38:42.460 --> 00:38:55.277
Look at that last message oh boy, just got a text from my host boys 200 for shadow creek or pro bono at win I'm down for the 200 I'll go.

00:38:55.456 --> 00:38:58.050
I'll go Shadow Creek for $500,.

00:38:58.050 --> 00:38:59.467
Alex, I'll take.

00:38:59.487 --> 00:39:00.791
Shadow Creek for $200,.

00:39:00.791 --> 00:39:02.817
Alex, absolutely.

00:39:02.817 --> 00:39:05.344
Oh, joe's really going to hate that he wasn't here this week.

00:39:05.505 --> 00:39:06.590
Yeah, he's going to be upset.

00:39:08.907 --> 00:39:15.355
Unless he's just fucking with us and he's doing this just to piss Joe off.

00:39:15.355 --> 00:39:16.536
Let's see what did you say?

00:39:16.536 --> 00:39:22.456
503 hybrid so I don't know, dan, you're a high swing speed guy.

00:39:22.456 --> 00:39:24.110
Jeremy, you are, all three of you are.

00:39:24.110 --> 00:39:28.675
Do you prefer driving irons and hybrids to fairway woods?

00:39:30.086 --> 00:39:30.931
I don't do hybrids.

00:39:30.931 --> 00:39:32.144
I'm terrified of a hybrid.

00:39:32.826 --> 00:39:42.891
I prefer an iron or a fairway wood would I don't know if I have a preference um driving irons over hybrids.

00:39:42.891 --> 00:39:45.096
Um the hybrids.

00:39:45.096 --> 00:39:49.351
I will just definitely say it's easier to hit higher um.

00:39:49.351 --> 00:39:54.005
But the feel of a you know the new driving irons, when you smoke them they feel really good.

00:39:54.005 --> 00:39:56.134
So I don't know it's it, don't know it's a tough call.

00:39:56.134 --> 00:40:01.809
I would agree with you on the UW.

00:40:01.809 --> 00:40:07.010
What is it?

00:40:07.010 --> 00:40:08.311
Utility wood, pretty much.

00:40:09.365 --> 00:40:10.914
I have the 17 degree.

00:40:11.990 --> 00:40:15.052
I have the 17 degree from the previous year's model.

00:40:15.052 --> 00:40:19.074
There were times where I would just destroying that.

00:40:19.074 --> 00:40:23.349
Oh yeah, there was times where I hit that thing almost 300 yards off the tee and that's a 17 degree.

00:40:23.349 --> 00:40:25.351
It's stupid hot.

00:40:25.351 --> 00:40:27.713
That's why it's not my bag right now, cause I can't.

00:40:27.713 --> 00:40:39.213
It's like I can hit it anywhere from two 50 off the deck to that damn near 300 off the tee, so it's just like it's a little too much, but they are awesome, they go.

00:40:39.233 --> 00:40:40.516
So, uh, which driver did you get?

00:40:40.516 --> 00:40:49.998
Yeah, smoke, uh, triple diamond oh nice, nice good stuff there.

00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:53.228
It's crazy to see like just the difference with technology.

00:40:53.228 --> 00:40:56.094
I mean, again, I go back like my clubs were a handful.

00:40:56.094 --> 00:41:01.414
You're five, six years old and you're just like just switching shafts, switching head.

00:41:01.414 --> 00:41:02.197
It's crazy.

00:41:02.197 --> 00:41:11.456
I mean and this is coming from somebody who, like I, used to work retail golf in college and like beat that into people's heads but then, as I get older and you're like do I, do I need that?

00:41:11.516 --> 00:41:19.891
I don't know, but this was clearly like, wow, why, why did it take me so long to do this?

00:41:19.891 --> 00:41:30.458
We had a guy at Revere on on, uh, whatever day that was last week, uh, that uh Saturday, it was, um, no, friday, friday, uh, he had a rogue driver and he and he hit it great.

00:41:30.458 --> 00:41:36.215
And uh, um, I'm learning so much from watching julian.

00:41:36.215 --> 00:41:45.927
You know how he works and he's really helping me understand the fitting process and and where to go to to search for better numbers for for players that that hit it.

00:41:45.927 --> 00:41:49.925
Well, you know, because a lot of times guys get up there and they smash their driver.

00:41:49.945 --> 00:41:54.757
Great, it's like, wow, how can I, how can I get more out of this with it?

00:41:54.757 --> 00:42:24.425
Because the driver does a lot, but there's so much with shaft and what the player swings and everything, and, um, by the time we got done with this guy, we we added 20 yards of carry, uh, going from the rogue to the the ai smoke, and I mean it's it's incredible to watch, you know, um, but it was what was amazing about it and this is why I highly recommend getting fit by somebody that knows what the fuck they're doing because, uh, you know it, it wasn't there at first.

00:42:24.425 --> 00:42:27.190
It the the first couple swings.

00:42:27.190 --> 00:42:31.197
His, his rogue was just as good, you know.

00:42:31.197 --> 00:42:35.945
But uh, you know julian's never satisfied until he gets somebody hitting it the best that they can.

00:42:35.945 --> 00:42:44.675
And you know, just a little tinker here, a little tinker there, and then all of a sudden, boom, you find the, the sweet spot with it and he was just cranking them and I mean it was.

00:42:44.876 --> 00:42:45.746
It was a blast to watch.

00:42:45.746 --> 00:42:50.677
So, yeah, it's amazing what you can do with being fit for the right stuff.

00:42:50.677 --> 00:42:54.773
So is it the hand ready to play yet?

00:42:54.773 --> 00:42:55.635
What's what's the deal?

00:42:56.318 --> 00:43:09.831
No, yeah, so I think today was the first day where I put my head and hit a ball, but definitely tomorrow going out there because I'm just been itching to hit those things and brand new set of irons are just and and those CBS looks so good.

00:43:10.233 --> 00:43:10.735
Yes, they do.

00:43:10.735 --> 00:43:14.132
I just hope this wedges man, that's where.

00:43:14.132 --> 00:43:19.969
I'm just oh, you got the wedges too yeah I had my first.

00:43:19.969 --> 00:43:24.637
I had my first chip in with money during the tournament first ever.

00:43:24.637 --> 00:43:35.110
No, no, no yeah, yeah this is actually the second round I played with them and and yeah, so uh just put a hash mark on it not.

00:43:35.110 --> 00:43:37.945
Yeah, I'm trying to decide if I want to do that again or not.

00:43:37.945 --> 00:43:38.467
You should.

00:43:38.467 --> 00:43:40.711
I should just keep keep doing it.

00:43:41.494 --> 00:43:51.552
Yeah, all right or put an x or something that way you can keep doing it, but mix up, the mix up how you do it I'll have to find something that uh check mark.

00:43:52.755 --> 00:43:53.677
Oh, maybe a check mark.

00:43:53.677 --> 00:44:00.972
Yeah, I'll have to hit up stamp, stamp yours and find something that, uh, you know looks good on it.

00:44:00.972 --> 00:44:02.596
But I, I, which one did you get?

00:44:02.596 --> 00:44:06.451
Did you get the, uh, the satin finish, or the black or the raw?

00:44:06.451 --> 00:44:06.853
What'd you get?

00:44:07.414 --> 00:44:12.889
black yeah, that's what I got too yeah so good um, I did get that.

00:44:12.889 --> 00:44:13.831
Um, what was that?

00:44:13.831 --> 00:44:16.896
It's a tour grind on that 58, so I'm excited.

00:44:16.956 --> 00:44:21.110
Or the t grind yeah, that's what I have on mine.

00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:23.393
It's so good, it is so good.

00:44:23.393 --> 00:44:27.307
That's what I chipped in with, so it's so good.

00:44:27.307 --> 00:44:30.713
Uh, let's see what else we got going on.

00:44:30.713 --> 00:44:34.688
Uh, harry had another good tourney out.

00:44:34.688 --> 00:44:36.273
Uh, in in Japan.

00:44:36.273 --> 00:44:39.673
He's playing really well in the fall series, gonna help him get in some more events.

00:44:39.673 --> 00:44:40.985
We got that.

00:44:40.985 --> 00:44:41.407
We got that.

00:44:41.407 --> 00:44:41.909
We got that.

00:44:41.909 --> 00:44:44.442
So you know what?

00:44:44.463 --> 00:44:46.592
There's a couple messages I got to roll back here because I missed this.

00:44:46.592 --> 00:44:53.628
I think Mike Luke was asking you this where'd he go?

00:44:53.628 --> 00:45:00.195
Oh, uh, lito, lito, lito.

00:45:00.195 --> 00:45:01.938
I just where did it go?

00:45:01.938 --> 00:45:06.125
Oh well, oh, is it the design issue you don't like?

00:45:06.125 --> 00:45:07.414
I think that was about lito.

00:45:07.414 --> 00:45:10.925
Uh, do you think lito will get better as it ages a bit?

00:45:10.925 --> 00:45:17.936
So, uh, uh, mike, if you want to answer that, putter shafts.

00:45:17.936 --> 00:45:36.724
So, yeah, hey, we got uh, roars and I are going to be recording a new episode of fitter builder player and he put a poll out on his ig page, which I haven't checked lately, but the leading vote getter leading vote getter was custom putter shafts.

00:45:36.724 --> 00:45:44.815
So, uh, if, if y'all are ready to nerd out on some putter shafts, we'll be talking about that on the next episode, which?

00:45:45.536 --> 00:45:48.242
I will tune in for that dan, are you gonna?

00:45:48.422 --> 00:45:48.682
what do you?

00:45:48.682 --> 00:45:49.371
What are you gonna do?

00:45:49.371 --> 00:45:51.878
First off, which good would have you decided to roll with?

00:45:52.358 --> 00:45:54.231
I've actually thank you cliff.

00:45:54.231 --> 00:45:59.489
Um, I've actually completely switched over to cliffs I, because we have similar designs.

00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:12.291
Uh, he's got more of the squared off bumpers, I have the round ones, but he's got the top line, uh, top line aimer, and mine is blank and I kind of just fell in love with the top line, the top line aim, so I got cliffs in the bag right now.

00:46:12.291 --> 00:46:16.304
Um, but, um, yeah, I haven't decided what I'm gonna do.

00:46:16.326 --> 00:46:34.878
I'm gonna listen to you guys's podcast and then maybe go from there get my edumac education on putter shafts well, the thing that's awesome with roars is he has, you know, at his disposal all the different putter shafts, all the different putter heads, everything but biggest red solo on fucking earth.

00:46:34.878 --> 00:46:36.623
Yes, look at this thing, isn't that amazing?

00:46:36.623 --> 00:46:41.849
You're not gonna say something about that amazing, and it's double walled.

00:46:41.849 --> 00:46:43.675
It keeps drinks cold for hours.

00:46:43.675 --> 00:46:44.056
It's.

00:46:44.056 --> 00:46:44.980
It's awesome.

00:46:44.980 --> 00:46:58.019
There's no alcohol in it, though I'm still two years sober almost so, um so oh, fucking eric.

00:46:58.981 --> 00:47:14.838
Uh, that's too funny uh, so roars has all those shafts and putters there, so you know he's going to be crunching numbers and he's got quintet there and so you know it's going to be, I'm hoping, a really, you know, educational episode.

00:47:14.838 --> 00:47:17.322
Um, and, uh, we'll be.

00:47:17.322 --> 00:47:26.521
Uh, you know, not putting anything like up against anything else, but just to get yes, thank you, luke.

00:47:26.521 --> 00:47:27.463
Oh good.

00:47:27.463 --> 00:47:33.099
Lagp series for the win, just saying, just saying.

00:47:33.829 --> 00:47:34.873
It's the only putter shaft.

00:47:34.932 --> 00:47:35.956
I'll putt with right now.

00:47:35.956 --> 00:47:38.021
It's bouncy.

00:47:38.021 --> 00:47:39.655
Yeah, that's Joe's thoughts on it.

00:47:39.655 --> 00:47:40.217
It's bouncy.

00:47:45.050 --> 00:47:51.606
Is there an aftermarket putter shaft that doesn't look like an aftermarket putter shaft, like if just a plain black, but it still has the same technology and everything?

00:47:51.606 --> 00:47:58.320
Like no taper designs no half steel half the lagps are straight, they're.

00:47:58.360 --> 00:47:59.021
They're no taper.

00:47:59.021 --> 00:48:00.911
The us team amia has one now.

00:48:00.972 --> 00:48:05.780
Bgt actually just came out with one about logos like is there anything that has like a black logo?

00:48:06.181 --> 00:48:11.998
that's that's, that's what dad, that's my guy, he's like.

00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.244
Can I get one with no logo on it please?

00:48:15.945 --> 00:48:21.983
yeah, everybody's gonna put their advertisement on that, though, the logo don't bother me because I never see it.

00:48:22.650 --> 00:48:23.072
It doesn't.

00:48:23.072 --> 00:48:26.181
You know, as you're standing there looking over the putt, the logo's on the backside?

00:48:26.451 --> 00:48:29.456
I never see it, so it doesn't bother me.

00:48:29.456 --> 00:48:34.081
I study my putter when I walk into the green and it just bugs me.

00:48:35.050 --> 00:48:36.494
You study your putter.

00:48:37.378 --> 00:48:40.476
Oh yeah, I love putters, man Please elaborate studying my putter.

00:48:40.496 --> 00:48:41.159
Yeah, oh yeah, I love putters.

00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:42.286
Man, please elaborate studying my putter.

00:48:42.306 --> 00:49:01.679
No, I just love looking at my putters and I I don't want to see a logo on the shaft anywhere, and that's the only thing, hold me back from getting one scotty cameron custom planned a what a cameron shaft man shaft band oh you know the little ones that are like the metal rings.

00:49:02.179 --> 00:49:02.380
Yeah.

00:49:02.900 --> 00:49:07.989
I don't like those, you don't I don't like that, no.

00:49:08.010 --> 00:49:09.775
Okay, bez, what putter did you go with?

00:49:09.775 --> 00:49:11.175
Did you get a new putter as well, or no?

00:49:11.871 --> 00:49:14.880
Oh, that's the one thing that I'm horrible at.

00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:22.346
I've had like three putters since high school and I just go back between those three putters since high school and I will, I just go back between those three putters.

00:49:22.346 --> 00:49:23.349
For some reason.

00:49:23.349 --> 00:49:31.795
I just I have a feel with a putter and it's like it might go six years, it might go six months, but it's just there's always three in circulation.

00:49:31.795 --> 00:49:49.090
I'm so not scared, but it's just like I feel like at the end of the day, for me personally, it's's just I play amazing golf and putted everything in the hole with like bent shafts, you know, almost, almost snapped over my leg, and then you make everything.

00:49:49.090 --> 00:49:55.657
So I think it's like, once I have something I like to look at and it feels good for me, it just stays around.

00:49:55.938 --> 00:49:57.159
Yeah, right now I'm still.

00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.864
I go back and forth, but right now I'm gaming like the.

00:50:00.864 --> 00:50:20.356
I think it's I don't even know what series, but it's, I think the Odyssey God, it's just a number seven from like probably eight years ago, and then the backup to that that recirculates every once in a while is like the number two, but it was the original milled black, odyssey, black series Do you have one of those.

00:50:23.329 --> 00:50:35.661
Yeah, so that's like usually my gamer, but all milled face yeah, so it's just like the chrome face and that was like their scotty cameron version from like 10 maybe um and then, how close is that to you right now?

00:50:35.922 --> 00:50:39.199
I want to see it I can grab it, I have.

00:50:39.199 --> 00:51:06.762
And then the other one's, uh, terillium, but that one doesn't really leave the house because I was an idiot and gamed a terillium all through high school and college and then when I left college there was some financial times and sold that thing for like 120 bucks and I wish I could just find that person right luckily I had a buddy that um, you know, um, I did some like yard work for him for a while and he hooked me up.

00:51:06.804 --> 00:51:09.838
He was like hey, I know you always talked about missing this putter, and here you go.

00:51:09.838 --> 00:51:11.909
I was like this is the greatest gift ever.

00:51:11.909 --> 00:51:12.411
Thanks, dude.

00:51:12.411 --> 00:51:15.536
So it doesn't wow, yeah let me go grab that thing real quick.

00:51:15.556 --> 00:51:16.157
Yeah, go grab it.

00:51:16.157 --> 00:51:20.992
Uh, so easton synergy made putter shouts be perfect.

00:51:20.992 --> 00:51:21.811
Hockey players will know.

00:51:21.811 --> 00:51:25.695
Hey, easton synergy is also a softball bat that they had for a while back.

00:51:25.695 --> 00:51:31.902
So I know that Joey repetitive in the house, tough LA has tonight.

00:51:31.902 --> 00:51:34.184
Yep, we've been all right.

00:51:34.184 --> 00:51:35.266
Sorry, but it's got to meet you.

00:51:35.266 --> 00:51:40.610
That's his doggy, my only glory.

00:51:40.610 --> 00:51:43.500
Tonight the Yankees actually played a decent baseball game.

00:51:45.992 --> 00:51:51.282
Yeah yeah, the fat lady was prepping her pipes all day in New York today.

00:51:51.282 --> 00:51:55.818
So, yes, happy that it's.

00:51:55.818 --> 00:52:06.275
You know it's not a series yet, but now pressure a bit of pressure on la, so we'll see what happens with that.

00:52:06.275 --> 00:52:10.304
Uh, okay, he's back here, he is.

00:52:10.304 --> 00:52:12.009
Oh, hey, look at that.

00:52:12.128 --> 00:52:30.059
Exclusive travis matthew cover oh dang, oh, there she is I filled, I paint filled that and then the back, but that's I remember that yeah, dude this thing just looks good to me, feels good.

00:52:30.059 --> 00:52:34.050
No sight line, just I don't know, it's just one of those that just

00:52:34.871 --> 00:52:39.918
just butter have you rolled any of the new stuff?

00:52:41.780 --> 00:52:47.106
yeah, and I'm sure it feels great and like functions.

00:52:47.106 --> 00:52:58.594
But I think that it would just have to be committed to just putting a new putter in the back, because for me I didn't, or maybe just a putter fitting because, like, it's easier to hit a driver and compare to your other one and go.

00:52:58.594 --> 00:52:59.893
This one clearly goes farther and straighter.

00:52:59.893 --> 00:53:01.297
Where it's easier to hit a driver and compare it to your other one and go.

00:53:01.297 --> 00:53:01.896
This one clearly goes farther and straighter.

00:53:01.896 --> 00:53:12.601
Where it's harder to do that with a putter, where you almost just have to say this one feels good, I've been putting better with it, but then the next week you might reput everything or just not make a thing.

00:53:13.730 --> 00:53:17.639
Hey, private putter fittings coming soon to the Wainwright domicile.

00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:24.675
Maybe, I'll keep you private putter fittings.

00:53:24.675 --> 00:53:27.697
Odyssey putter fittings yes.

00:53:28.952 --> 00:53:31.655
Come with a two drink minimum by appointment only.

00:53:33.811 --> 00:53:36.873
Must wear corduroys with ankle pockets.

00:53:36.873 --> 00:53:47.449
Ankle pockets, volpe with the big thigh yeah, that was an amazing grand slam yanks and seven love it.

00:53:47.449 --> 00:53:50.396
I would take a massive difference to make me drop my lab link.

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:52.903
A massive difference.

00:53:52.903 --> 00:53:55.811
We've talked about that before with joe.

00:53:55.811 --> 00:54:08.878
How, even jeremy, we've talked about that before how massive of a difference are you talking Like and how long would it take you to see that massive difference before you would go, okay, cause you roll it once and you putt well with it.

00:54:08.878 --> 00:54:11.416
You're like, ah, it's a fluke, you put twice, you roll well with it.

00:54:11.416 --> 00:54:15.190
You're like, maybe three times, three rounds it's.

00:54:15.190 --> 00:54:29.092
It may kick the other one out the bag, but I think if anybody takes a putter out I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm probably not the best person to to say that but uh, you go out and roll a putter, great, you know you.

00:54:29.092 --> 00:54:29.775
Do you go?

00:54:29.775 --> 00:54:31.682
Shit, I'm rolling this, great, let's just roll with it.

00:54:31.682 --> 00:54:32.304
Or do you go?

00:54:32.304 --> 00:54:33.831
I like my gamer better.

00:54:33.831 --> 00:54:41.648
Well, dan, it took you a little while to switch yeah yeah, it took you a little while to switch.

00:54:41.668 --> 00:54:42.469
Yeah, yeah, it took me a little while.

00:54:42.469 --> 00:54:48.480
Actually, you Did a little experimenting with some stability, with some higher MOI heads and stuff like that.

00:54:48.610 --> 00:54:53.454
but when it comes down to it, You've played more putters than I have this year.

00:54:53.454 --> 00:54:58.576
Yeah, probably I get a lot of grief for it.

00:54:58.635 --> 00:55:00.893
But yeah, I probably have.

00:55:01.574 --> 00:55:03.521
Jeremy, too, let's be real.

00:55:04.411 --> 00:55:07.195
I don't switch putters, you're still the mayor of Tinkerton.

00:55:07.335 --> 00:55:08.119
Oh yeah absolutely.

00:55:10.612 --> 00:55:14.554
I have multiple putters, but I don't really switch, I just keep the same one in there.

00:55:14.554 --> 00:55:15.456
It just collects them.

00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:16.480
Yeah.

00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:21.266
I can't have a Scotty Camper putter here, one of these days I like the putter from Cadd yeah, I can't see him one of these days.

00:55:21.286 --> 00:55:22.130
Yeah, putter from Caddyshack.

00:55:22.710 --> 00:55:30.195
It makes him feel good knowing that if he does need a backup, he's got like yes, it gets same exact putter, just a different generation.

00:55:30.831 --> 00:55:32.534
I've got the last eight years of Scotties.

00:55:33.936 --> 00:55:34.737
Yeah, just in case.

00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:36.721
Just just in case.

00:55:36.721 --> 00:55:41.059
So the the jailbird came out with a new milled version.

00:55:41.059 --> 00:55:49.317
I don't know if you guys saw that that was uh uh came out and then, uh, dan, let me, let me change the little.

00:55:49.858 --> 00:55:52.255
Yeah, I know, I got like Roars logo on my face.

00:55:52.255 --> 00:55:52.617
Yeah.

00:55:52.657 --> 00:55:53.739
Well, well, there we go.

00:55:53.739 --> 00:55:54.320
That's a little better.

00:55:54.320 --> 00:56:05.231
There we uh.

00:56:05.231 --> 00:56:17.474
So, uh, I don't know if you guys I should have sent you the link, um, but mike allspy had a reel where they were saying that zero torque putters are going to change, putting forever that what lab is doing and what pxg has done with their new one.

00:56:17.474 --> 00:56:29.438
Um, now, uh, adele just came out with the new toe up uh adapter for their array fitting system so you can get the the feel of a zero no torque.

00:56:30.139 --> 00:56:42.389
Um, it's, guys are always searching you know, people are always searching, brands are always searching, trying to find the next big thing and apparently, zero torque putters.

00:56:42.389 --> 00:56:45.717
Are it the chaos that's going on with lab golf?

00:56:45.717 --> 00:56:55.672
I mean, every influencer in the world now putts with a lab putter and uh, ricky actually played like shit with his in vegas, but played really well with his in japan.

00:56:55.672 --> 00:57:00.681
So I'm like I said I I couldn't do it.

00:57:00.902 --> 00:57:05.900
I just I, I'm not, I don't know anything about summit.

00:57:05.900 --> 00:57:07.534
Hey, you just stick to that shadow.

00:57:07.534 --> 00:57:10.755
Okay, Stick to that shadow, just don't worry about summit.

00:57:10.755 --> 00:57:11.318
Stick to shadow.

00:57:11.318 --> 00:57:17.101
Focus, focus, focus, focus.

00:57:17.869 --> 00:57:20.278
Yes, no, summit's nice, but not, it's not shadow.

00:57:23.992 --> 00:57:30.273
Got anything else you want to talk about did you guys see?

00:57:30.454 --> 00:57:35.791
tom tom kim broke his locker after a little fit of rage a little little I didn't see that.

00:57:36.452 --> 00:57:42.972
It's a little xanax after his post round yeah did something yeah, got a little hostile, had to apologize.

00:57:43.293 --> 00:57:48.251
I said the door fell from the media yeah, but he said like the door fell off or something like that.

00:57:48.251 --> 00:57:50.295
I'm like why does the door just fall off?

00:57:50.936 --> 00:57:55.067
shriners no in japan no no, no it at?

00:57:55.387 --> 00:57:58.255
no, he was at uh he was, he was at dp kore.

00:57:58.255 --> 00:57:59.818
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:57:59.818 --> 00:58:07.793
Yeah, they had the fucking child, had this fan club following him around, and then he does that.

00:58:07.793 --> 00:58:09.800
Wow, yeah, that's weird.

00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.072
He's kind of like lately him.

00:58:13.152 --> 00:58:14.478
He's kind of been in.

00:58:16.054 --> 00:58:16.757
Hasn't played well.

00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:17.298
Yeah.

00:58:19.469 --> 00:58:20.998
Didn't show up at Shriners at all with going for the three-peat President's Cup too.

00:58:20.998 --> 00:58:23.717
Yeah, didn't show up at Shriners at all Going for the three-peat President's Cup too.

00:58:23.717 --> 00:58:30.181
Yeah, same Getting a little bit too big for them britches.

00:58:30.181 --> 00:58:34.599
Dan Jeremy, you guys played some golf this past weekend.

00:58:34.811 --> 00:58:36.829
We didn't even talk about that, we did.

00:58:37.289 --> 00:58:40.099
Dan, you were up first at Las Vegas Country Club.

00:58:40.829 --> 00:58:41.773
Yes played.

00:58:41.773 --> 00:58:50.284
The country club got a last minute villain spot for with my buddy mark and that was uh, that was a very welcomed surprise.

00:58:50.284 --> 00:58:52.735
Um course was awesome.

00:58:52.735 --> 00:58:54.219
The rough was insane.

00:58:54.219 --> 00:58:57.632
Probably some of the hardest rough I've been in in a long time.

00:58:57.632 --> 00:59:01.259
It's good, a good four to six inches.

00:59:01.259 --> 00:59:09.222
You literally had to stand on top of your ball to find it um wow wow, I did.

00:59:09.324 --> 00:59:14.833
I did lose a ball in the rough and I wasn't that far in maybe 10 to 15 feet in the rough and wow.

00:59:14.833 --> 00:59:17.516
But uh course is in good shape.

00:59:17.516 --> 00:59:27.425
Once they start trimming it down and everything and get the details all sorted out on those greens, it's going to be awesome.

00:59:27.425 --> 00:59:37.764
I talked to one of the pros after the round and he said that the membership wants to keep those greens like at around 11.

00:59:37.764 --> 00:59:42.521
And it's yeah, it's beautiful over there.

00:59:42.521 --> 00:59:44.518
The range looks good with all the new grass in there.

00:59:45.251 --> 00:59:45.994
Love that place man.

00:59:46.610 --> 00:59:47.271
Yeah, it was.

00:59:47.271 --> 00:59:51.503
It was a nice treat and the price was right at zeros.

00:59:51.929 --> 00:59:54.159
So yeah, dan sends a text message out.

00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.050
Hey, I got a 10 AM at LVCC tomorrow.

00:59:57.050 --> 00:59:58.875
I'm like I'll tell my mom I'm busy.

00:59:59.135 --> 01:00:00.621
He's like you're not invited.

01:00:10.110 --> 01:00:13.858
Yeah, that was just a solo dolo one, but uh yeah, very lucky, fortunate uh, and then you and jeremy played tbc vegas.

01:00:13.878 --> 01:00:15.882
Yeah, it was how was that go ahead, jay?

01:00:15.882 --> 01:00:16.563
Yeah, of course was.

01:00:16.563 --> 01:00:21.456
I mean, it's been like at least two years since I've been out there, but, man, I love that place.

01:00:21.456 --> 01:00:23.121
That's one of my favorite in town, for sure.

01:00:23.121 --> 01:00:25.686
Um, it was.

01:00:25.686 --> 01:00:26.367
It was good.

01:00:26.367 --> 01:00:33.903
I mean, the greens were a bit slow, a little bit slower than normal, but it was just great to be back, of course, in good shape.

01:00:33.903 --> 01:00:37.018
We didn't really have anyone around us either, I didn't.

01:00:37.018 --> 01:00:38.481
I didn't really see any other groups.

01:00:39.432 --> 01:00:40.617
Yeah, what time did we get off?

01:00:40.617 --> 01:00:41.420
It was pretty early.

01:00:41.420 --> 01:00:43.315
7.33 was our tee time.

01:00:44.050 --> 01:00:46.797
There was a few groups ahead of us, but we never saw anyone.

01:00:46.797 --> 01:00:48.233
We played pretty quick.

01:00:48.802 --> 01:00:50.675
Was it windy that Sunday morning?

01:00:50.675 --> 01:00:51.699
I know it was Sunday afternoon.

01:00:52.192 --> 01:00:52.880
No not at all.

01:00:54.251 --> 01:00:56.612
It was perfect Nice.

01:00:56.612 --> 01:00:59.476
Oh wait, Monday is when it was windy yeah.

01:00:59.650 --> 01:01:00.557
What day was it he?

01:01:00.557 --> 01:01:00.820
When's he?

01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:02.070
was that yesterday?

01:01:02.190 --> 01:01:05.518
it was yesterday, monday yeah, yeah, that's right.

01:01:06.981 --> 01:01:15.409
Oh yeah, yesterday was nasty yeah, I thought at times that it was almost worse than that friday of the shiners, like there was some yeah it was crazy.

01:01:15.588 --> 01:01:23.822
well, maddie g was talking about 90 mile an hour winds at Mount Charleston, so that's really yeah, holy shit.

01:01:23.822 --> 01:01:33.619
Yes, well, I have to get him to explain that he says that as when when comes off a mountain, it picks up speed because it's going downhill, which I didn't know when could do that.

01:01:33.929 --> 01:01:37.460
But he would know.

01:01:37.771 --> 01:01:49.960
That's why I'm not a meteorologist Now you know well.

01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.045
Hey, everybody, thank you so much, uh, for hanging out.

01:01:53.045 --> 01:01:55.550
The instagram chat was amazing tonight.

01:01:55.550 --> 01:01:57.952
Sorry if I missed some of you guys on there.

01:01:57.952 --> 01:02:02.137
Rappetti just said golf's frustrating plus he might go to war.

01:02:02.137 --> 01:02:02.757
Give him a break.

01:02:02.757 --> 01:02:03.719
Talking about Tom Kim.

01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:08.644
That's too funny, it's true.

01:02:08.644 --> 01:02:11.434
Let's see Kevin Stratton facts.

01:02:11.434 --> 01:02:20.112
Juju was on there talking about the guy's club head spin numbers that we fit Cliffy.

01:02:20.112 --> 01:02:21.199
Thank you so much, chris.

01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:21.983
Thank you so much, chris.

01:02:21.983 --> 01:02:22.827
Thank you so much Everybody.

01:02:22.827 --> 01:02:23.309
Thank you so much.

01:02:23.309 --> 01:02:25.876
No Facebook spammer tonight.

01:02:25.876 --> 01:02:26.398
Yes.

01:02:28.684 --> 01:02:29.387
Dodged a bullet.

01:02:29.387 --> 01:02:30.289
We dodged a bullet.

01:02:30.429 --> 01:02:33.418
I was wondering if I was just going to be like the random guy that got picked out tonight.

01:02:33.418 --> 01:02:34.300
He's down.

01:02:37.731 --> 01:02:38.052
Beds.

01:02:38.052 --> 01:02:41.195
Looks like that was a theme last week.

01:02:41.195 --> 01:02:43.001
Oh too funny.

01:02:43.001 --> 01:02:50.360
Uh well, normally joe would take it over right now and say, uh, you know his little spiel, but I do.

01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.492
I do want to show this to everybody real quick.

01:02:53.492 --> 01:03:03.304
One last thing uh, we got a new review on the podcast.

01:03:03.304 --> 01:03:04.226
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01:03:04.226 --> 01:03:07.809
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01:03:07.809 --> 01:03:14.496
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01:03:14.496 --> 01:03:15.237
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01:03:15.237 --> 01:03:16.260
It says golf needs CDP.

01:03:16.260 --> 01:03:21.860
So, with JPS swag, if that's JP Golf Homie, thank you so much.

01:03:21.860 --> 01:03:22.961
If it's jp golf homie, thank you so much.

01:03:22.961 --> 01:03:25.210
If it's not somebody else, thank you so much.

01:03:25.210 --> 01:03:26.673
We love the reviews.

01:03:26.673 --> 01:03:28.277
They actually help us grow the show.

01:03:28.277 --> 01:03:31.530
So by doing so, who is the facebook spammer?

01:03:31.530 --> 01:03:32.032
We don't know.

01:03:32.032 --> 01:03:36.382
Miles, miles tuning in late did have you met up with joe.

01:03:36.443 --> 01:03:42.021
Yet miles coming on coming in hot at the last minute.

01:03:43.103 --> 01:03:44.407
Yeah, past, midnight.

01:03:45.108 --> 01:03:45.929
Yeah, it's kind of late.

01:03:45.929 --> 01:03:47.916
I is Joe making you pick him up at the airport.

01:03:47.916 --> 01:03:48.759
Is that what's going on?

01:03:48.759 --> 01:03:49.400
Is that why you're up?

01:03:50.269 --> 01:03:51.757
Making them wait in line at a golf course.

01:03:53.349 --> 01:03:55.056
Hey miles go in the parking lot for us.

01:03:55.056 --> 01:03:59.757
Uh, so, hey everybody.

01:03:59.757 --> 01:04:03.097
Um again, thank you so much for tuning in.

01:04:03.097 --> 01:04:04.000
We love doing this.

01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.411
Uh, dan got his rankings done.

01:04:06.411 --> 01:04:13.463
I've got my rankings done, waiting on joe and jeremy uh to to fill out theirs.

01:04:13.463 --> 01:04:15.411
Uh, we got two more episodes to go.

01:04:15.411 --> 01:04:23.472
We got one more episode next week and then the following week is episode 300, where we will do, uh, our las vegas course rankings.

01:04:23.472 --> 01:04:34.329
I am happy to report, after previewing everything, there's only two courses that will not be included this year, because dan is here now and dan has played a lot of the courses.

01:04:34.329 --> 01:04:42.974
We kind of did a thing where, unless two of us have played the course, we're not going to rank it, because one person's perspective isn't really a ranking, it's just a perspective.

01:04:42.974 --> 01:04:52.974
So there's only two courses, which is when and I think the other one was Oasis oh, cause you and Dan have both played Oasis.

01:04:52.974 --> 01:04:53.757
It was one other one.

01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.302
Laughlin Ranch.

01:04:55.809 --> 01:04:56.331
Laughlin Ranch.

01:04:56.331 --> 01:04:56.893
That's what it was.

01:04:56.974 --> 01:04:57.275
No cause.

01:04:57.295 --> 01:04:59.300
Joe and I have played it, so that'll be on there.

01:05:01.210 --> 01:05:02.032
Oh, or Moj ranch, that's what it was.

01:05:02.032 --> 01:05:04.704
No, because joe and I have played it, so that'll be on there, oh, but uh, mojave wasn't it mojave or something?

01:05:04.704 --> 01:05:05.226
Mojave, that's what it is.

01:05:05.226 --> 01:05:07.355
Yeah, yeah, yeah, down in laughlin and uh, win.

01:05:07.414 --> 01:05:17.213
So those that are complaining that summit wasn't on the list, those that were complaining that win wasn't on the list, um, well, actually win still won't be on the list because nobody else has played it.

01:05:18.054 --> 01:05:21.063
Um, that, that's going to be a fun episode.

01:05:21.063 --> 01:05:22.507
Uh, it's our 300th.

01:05:22.507 --> 01:05:23.731
It's going to be a blast.

01:05:23.731 --> 01:05:27.378
Uh, we rank them all the way from the bottom to the top.

01:05:27.378 --> 01:05:31.512
Um, it's a points-based system and we'll share how we do it.

01:05:31.512 --> 01:05:39.717
So everybody knows, and, uh, it gets, it gets our uh, you know most views as far as podcasts go.

01:05:39.717 --> 01:05:50.798
So we'll be looking forward to that and hopefully, if I have some time, I'll be able to put together some infographics and uh, show you guys why the courses are where they are for those everybody that's tuning in.

01:05:50.798 --> 01:05:53.228
So, uh, thank you to our show sponsors.

01:05:53.228 --> 01:05:57.652
Thank you to beds for hopping on and filling in Joe spot Like I said heavy shoes to fill.

01:05:57.711 --> 01:05:58.572
Thanks so much, brother.

01:05:58.572 --> 01:05:59.271
Like I said, heavy shoes to fill.

01:05:59.271 --> 01:05:59.913
Thanks so much, brother.

01:05:59.913 --> 01:06:03.813
Appreciate you being on here and we will be back next week with an all-new show.

01:06:03.813 --> 01:06:07.255
Until then, we'll chase some daylight Later.

01:06:07.255 --> 01:06:08.635
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