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Hey everybody, thank you so much for tuning into this week's show of the chasing daylight podcast.
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We're replaying an interview with our friend, harry Hall, back from October of 2021.
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This was fresh off Harry's top 10 finish at the Shriners, which got him into the Butterfield Bermuda Championship.
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He was in Bermuda and took a little time away from prepping for that tournament to chat with us about his life at UNLV and his professional career.
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He's been in the news a little bit lately because of his top play out at Colonial and which has, you know, increased his FedEx Cup standings.
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I think he's at 73rd now.
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He's really close to making the playoffs, which is going to be exciting, and so we wanted to play this interview for you because he's been in the news and We're pretty excited about the way he's playing.
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So thank you so much for tuning in for this one.
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We are gonna try and record something tonight with all the stuff that's been going on in golf With the PIF and the PGA merger, its US Open Week.
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There's just a ton of ton of golf going on, and so we're gonna try and get some people on and have a little round table about what everything that's going on.
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But in the meantime, it is Wednesday and I wanted to put something out, so please enjoy this episode and Thanks a lot for listening.
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Welcome to the show, everybody.
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I've got a great interview for you today.
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Former UNLV golfer and now professional golfer, harry Hall, joins us for an interview.
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He is live from Bermuda getting ready to play in his second PGA tournament event.
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With his top 10 finish to the Shriners, he made it into this field, talk a little bit about his UNLV career, what brought him over here, and just some good stories From one hell of a player.
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His name is gonna be more popular in the next coming years, i firmly believe, and it's not because he wears the same hat Bryson does.
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It's a kickback.
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Relax, enjoy this one.
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It was a blast and thanks for tuning in.
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Welcome back to the Chasing Daylight.
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Everybody got a nice interview series for you today on the phone with me, which I just found out.
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He's live from Bermuda, mr Harry Hall.
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How you doing today, sir, very good.
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Thank you, matt, how you doing Well, it's beautiful weather today It sucks.
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You're not here to enjoy it, but I kind of, you know, would rather be where you are.
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To tell you the truth, i Am Sat in a nice hotel room.
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I've got a band playing outside my patio door.
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I'm on the beach, gonna spend the other week in Bermuda and play in my And play in my Fourth pg Tour of it, so I'm excited life is good, right?
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Yeah, so I know a lot about you because I'm a UNLV junkie, been, you know, fan of yours, since, since you got to UNLV.
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But you're originally from how's it?
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Hale, england.
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Yeah, what brought you All the way around the other side of the planet to play at UNLV?
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Wow, i'm originally from Campbell, which is a little town close to the, close to the hail that no one likes to tell Tell you they're from, so I'm actually from here.
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We moved that when I was about 13 to be moved up in the world.
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I was like people don't like to say they're from Henderson, they say they're from Vegas.
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Yeah, right, exactly.
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So I'm actually from Cornwall.
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I grew up there with the primary school that when I was about I went away to boarding school for a year and play golf because pretty good, and got a scholarship and Came back to hail when I was 12 and Went just went to a normal school and it wasn't till I was about 16 and I was playing in some national events, member of what you know, the on the 16 boys team and the under 18s, and Had a lot of interest through college golf Coaches in America coming over the watch we play.
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And Phil row, who was from West Cornwall golf club, the same golf course I played at in Cornwall, england, was assistant coach of Stanford.
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He moved To UNLV in 2000, the end of 2013, just in time for me to sign in importing to go to a school.
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I could never have gone to Stanford academically and It was a blessing that he went to UNLV and Invited me on a visit because you know we have that connection from being from the same place.
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Yeah, i grew up there with friends kind of mentoring me that Didn't move on like he did to the states from where I come from and Yeah, what you know, he was the best school.
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I was looking at the time it went on a visit and saw shadow Creek, and I'm having spanish trails or Las Vegas country club, but you know, wow, 360 days is pure sunshine, you know so to be.
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Yeah.
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We, we kind of got it, got it lucky here.
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The the winner isn't really winter compared to the rest of the world.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Well, you know, I spent most Saturday morning 35-minute.
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Our wind and water proofs and It hardly holds the colors, you know Zero, thirty-two in power flight.
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So what was, what was your reaction to Vegas?
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I mean, had you, had you been to a big city like that, like I'm sure you probably in the London right?
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You know on the few times.
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It was my first time in America on my official visit.
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Oh really.
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Yeah, i went to, went to Vegas and went to Marquette.
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In was constant, completely two different places and I Love Vegas.
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You know I was at the time I was 16, 17 and you know, like the big, i know I dressed enough, like the whole atmosphere that Vegas had, the golf, it was fantastic and, yeah, i loved it.
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You know I still did so you had a pretty, pretty outstanding career and in 2019 you awarded the Mountain West golfer of the year Only the sixth player in UNLV history to win that.
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So congrats on that.
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That's a nice little accolade to have, thank you.
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So after UNLV there was there's a little gap between that and your cornfairy start.
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What was going on between graduating and getting out on the cornfairy?
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Well, i graduated in three and a half years, at the end of 18, and decided to do another semester at UNLV Just so.
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I played on the team and finished my you know NCAA eligibility and did a fourth year with the guys and You know another national championship and then Went back to England that summer and played in a few competitions and then played the Walker Cup, which is great Britain Island against the USA, which was something I always wanted to do because Phil Roe, who obviously helped me Progress in my career, was my coach at UNLV, played on the team.
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Oh nice, yeah.
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So that that was really cool to get that on my CB and you know, looking at his CV in the past, i was trying to take off everything on it on his one.
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So to get how the Walker Cup was really cool and every every golf from Great Britain Island really cherishes playing in the Walker Cup and That's kind of critical of them to go for us.
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That was really really nice.
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Who else was on that team with you?
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Anybody we'd know?
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No no, not really.
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It's.
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It was amazing because I'm kind of Covid really affected a lot of people my age back in Europe because I haven't had a Q-School for two years, yeah, and They haven't been able to progress as much as you could.
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Over here at least we've had some, you know, monday qualifiers to play a system that you could, you know, graduate into and I know that the cornfrey tour was two years into one, but I still made it just because I got through Q-School and at the end of 2019, even with conditional status.
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So I played the Walker Cup Turn pro before I played any Q-School.
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I got an invite into the Alford Dunn Hill links, st Andrews teams, barns and car news team and play played that right after the Walker Cup and I Came 15.
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I'm playing my first professional then and I remember playing In practice round Luke Donald and seeing all the guys and I'm thinking, wow, it's my first tournament and I Like Kings Barnes the first they shoot to under, play St Andrews the next they shoot for under and I'm right on the cut line and Kings Barnes and St Andrews, because every rotation Everyone's at all three courses for three days and they all place an angel on the last day.
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She don't want to finish on car news to you really, because you kind of just started to stay where you stay where you're at.
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You know if I shot level pilot program being happy, but when they made the cut I knew I had to take it and I shot four under a car news team, which was a great score at that, and I made the cut by two and I'm on the same scores or a macro, and I Got, i got paired within that Sunday night.
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That Saturday night and I played my first professional event with Roy on Sunday, the home of golf, and, oh wow, shot 65 and damn in 15 and That was.
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That was a nice introduction to professional golf and something that you know I I'll remember forever.
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Just playing with Roy and having a bit of a crowd watchers and being a st Andrews and My dad watching.
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Now that was awesome.
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And after that I came over playing corn for a talk U school But through all the way to finals that made me a concrete or member.
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I came 113 for finals, in the top 40, get their automatic starts and we're in a place of 113.
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I was never gonna get start on the corn very tall, but it meant that I could do the Monday qualifiers for cheaper and if I did get some events Then my points would count, because I was a member.
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Oh nice.
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If you're not a member, you have to do Monday qualifiers and get, you know, 350 points before you even eligible for a reshuffle or To be in the in the field automatically.
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So you know, i, i, i got through Q school But never had a star, and then code.
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It happened.
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So I was trying to call and I didn't qualify for the first couple Because you can't qualify for Bahamas, and then the events in both of us are the Panama I try to qualify for for a few And I didn't make it.
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So there was about 10 events to start the season.
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I didn't play it and then code.
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It happened in that February, march.
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So Four months later I'm doing some Monday qualifiers and, like I kill it, i get in three out of nine Mondays, which is a really good percentage.
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Yeah, and yeah.
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And I.
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I came to 36 in Utah and because I was a member, my points counted and I got in the next reshuffle and it meant that I had the next three events On the corn pro tour and I go miss cut, miss cut, second place and I'm on the corn pro tour ever since.
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I managed to finish 2020 off well, with a few top tens, and I finished 67th on the list, playing half the events of everybody else, but at least that got me a full schedule in 2021 where I won an event.
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This year I didn't have my best year on the course and that win kind of really made the year look like it was and I'm very thankful for that.
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I got the job that I did in the clutch and when I wasn't content, i finished it off, but that was kind of that.
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I was one of the top 10 for 2022 event.
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You could be saying, well, i don't know, it wasn't a great year, but I made it to the finals, i'm comfortable and I'm in the same spot as everybody else.
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Coming next year, you probably go with my my honest career.
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Finishing the Walker Cup was great, but prior to the Walker Cup, i hadn't been a star.
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A lot of people probably wouldn't have picked me to come on and do so well and went on the Corn Freight Tour and my top 10 of the Shriders a couple of weeks ago.
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People probably wouldn't have chose me to have the results I've had after college, but I kept on going and kept on taking a step up the ladder.
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Hopefully I can do it for many more years to come.
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Oh yeah for sure you are Too much talent.
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So back in June, right before the Wichita, you put something out on Instagram that just really increased my level of respect for you.
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So I'm going to read this what you wrote I've had this photo of my library for a while now.
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I've been waiting for a good result on the course to post it, but that hasn't happened.
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Then I realized that's me falling into a trap of only posting positive, successful posts when life isn't really like that.
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I have failures all the time, but tend not to share them with others, except those close to my team.
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I am where I am today because of how I deal with failures and, fortunately for me, when we can change a lot of things in my world.
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Then you went out and won.
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Had you always had that mindset, and just I'm trying, instagram and social media can really overtake somebody.
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Was it something that happened that?
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had you realized that, or have you always thought like that?
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You go through spells, don't you?
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Obviously, everybody goes through ups and downs.
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You never see it, do you?
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You never see it on social media.
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I just thought I need to switch something up.
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It's negative, but I'm not posting at all.
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If you only post positive stuff, that might flip your mindset.
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But if I'm not posting at all, that's kind of negative because I like to post and I like to say relevant, but obviously something was going on where I wasn't playing good enough goals.
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I think that I deserve the post of turning by the ballot and nobody wants to know that.
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I think it was just a very spontaneous thing.
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I thought you know what.
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I'm going to post this for that, because I like it.
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It doesn't matter how I play.
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What does it matter?
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I mean, you want to be a nice person, a good person.
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If I came T50 last week and not T5, someone might think T50 is a fantastic result and I'm on the corporate tour I loved it.
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I thought it was great and I wish more people in the spotlight would post that.
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I mean, it's so easy to get this glamorous life of a professional golfer out there.
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Local knowledge we just said in our podcast this last week they had a great episode talking about mental health and a lot of the struggles that some of these top guys, like Matt Wolf and a couple of other players, are going through.
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It's nice to see that side of it.
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Of course, everybody wants to see the fast cars and the hot chicks and the big checks, but that's not everyday life, even for the top players in the world.
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That's not their everyday life.
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So I was glad that you embraced that.
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It freed you up a little bit mentally and you had a hell of a tournament.
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I think that I've posted a lot to do with fifting my mindset and having a refreshed week for sure.
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It's subconscious.
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It was in the back of my mind that I took a little bit of weight off my shoulders and a little bit of pressure and thought I had a lot of support.
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Everybody loved that post.
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I got a lot of messages after saying H respect, that It was nice.
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I think a lot of people feel like that all the time.
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If they don't post for two weeks, they're probably going through it and they're waiting for a chance to do something positive to come up to give them an excuse to post.
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I think now that I've done that, i need to not do it more often.
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but I definitely noticed this when I'm going through those spots again and still posting.
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It's healthy to do.
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Let's get some beach photos out there.
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Bermude is too beautiful.
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Want to touch on Shriners, of course, but before you got into Shriners, a rumor was swirling around and Phil confirmed this for me You had a match against Taylor to see who was going to get the exemption.
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Okay, talk me through that.
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What was that like When we heard it?
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because somebody who told us that was this guy who was just annihilated out on the 17th at Shriners.
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He had been drinking all day.
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He was telling us about it, so I didn't know how much truth there was to it And before we wanted to talk about it, we wanted to confirm.
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I reached out to Phil Reedy who was catting for you.
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He goes yeah, yeah, it happened.
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I go all right, let's hear from you.
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It's an amazing way to get into an event.
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You've got you and Taylor to the top guys on the corn fairy tour that are from UNLV.
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It's a home game for you guys.
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So what was that like?
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Well, first off, I'd heard a few people around town, from the local businesses and the people I played golf with on a regular basis, that oh hey, just looking good, I think you're in the tournament.
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I'm like great.
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Then Patrick Lindsey, tournament director of the Shriners, says Harry, I've got a question for you.
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She might meet me at TPC Sunwinds tomorrow.
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I'm like, yeah, Patrick, I'll see you there.
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And I'm thinking, okay, he's just going to ask me if I want the exemption.
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He wouldn't invite me to the office to say no, would he?
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So I thought what other option is that?
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And when I got there I was obviously through the rumors.
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I knew I had a good chance.
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And yeah, complete bombshell.
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He says I've been thinking I can't decide.
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Do you want to play for it?
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We take a more government.
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I've got one spot left And I want to give it the one of you, not the one of the two.
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And obviously I'm not going to say no right To play someone one on one spot in the tournament is way better rods and a Monday qualifier, And I'm just very grateful for any opportunity I get and said that would be fantastic.
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Patrick, thank you very much for considering me.
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And the week later, to the against table.
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We had a local rules official, Kim Quinn, from the SNGA, and we went out there us too.
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It was pretty comfortable off the first tee because we were quite good friends actually and I had a lot of goals for each other the last six years.
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He was a senior when I was a sophomore at college, So he was a junior when I was a freshman.
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I did two years with him on the tee and we were good friends and hung out a lot.
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His games got fantastic over the last couple of years.
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I know that he's a tough competitor.
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Anyway, I shot 68, which wasn't my best score around Clipster-Sumlin, but he shot 69.
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He pretty tense actually.
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I had a three shot lead with five to go.
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I eagles 13 to go five under and he bogeyed it to go two under.
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I thought that was kind of it.
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It's not quite solid.
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I don't make any big numbers.
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I bogeyed 15.
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It drove right and hit three and went into the desert.
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I didn't get up and down, I bogeyed it and he parted.
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Then he burned 16 and I parted.
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This time only one in front was 17 and 18 to play.
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In that They're good, solid holes at TPC-Sumlin.
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The closing holes there are arguably some of the best in town.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We both hit it on the green on 17, 18 and 25 feet and both missed.
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Yeah, but got him by one.
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That's so cool.
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I mean, I'd never heard of that.
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I thought it was great that they did that.
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Everyone thought it was pretty great.
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They've never heard it either.
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All the players I played a pratt and strowman, i've been over JGus and Scott Pearsie and even a few other guys said hey, mate, by the way, did you?
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I have to play a playoff together?
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I thought they played that a little bit.
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That's so cool, okay.
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So question about Taylor.
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He didn't go to a corn very event because he qualified for the US Open.
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Makes the cut at the US Open.
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I got to know your opinion.
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I'm curious.
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You're somebody that's out there that's grinding.
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So Springfield two weeks prior.
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Well, so, first of all, I don't know if Taylor had to go to local or not.
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He might have gone to local and qualified for sections.
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The US Open has a local qualified and an sectional.
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I don't know what he did.
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He might have been exempt through World Ranking Top 500.
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If not, he did local.
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I remember seeing him in Springfield, Illinois, where I came second in 2020.
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And I go you know we're on the chat, we're on the driving range And he goes hey, you're going to play in the US Open And I go see you.
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Through the Walker Cup, I was exempt in the sectional.
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So all I had to do is do a qualifier on the Monday or Tuesday of sectionals and have a great chance If you're eligible for sectional straight away.
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I'm probably the only one in this year that didn't go And I thought you know what I cannot miss a week from the corn pro to, I'm sitting 74 on the list and top 75.
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I think in the finals and every week, so important I kind of had the confidence if I can, if I can just be on the conference all this year and get my car, I'll play in the US Open for the next 25 years.
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That was my mindset.