Feb. 26, 2025
315: VGN Tourney Recap, Putting Talk, More from Matt's "LAB" Video and a good Bryson Rumor.
Let's dive into the intricacies of putting and the vital role a coach can play in any golfer's journey. We explore the subtle techniques and tips that can make all the difference on the green.
• Short game struggles that every golfer faces
• Importance of practicing putting and building confidence
• Challenges presented by course conditions, particularly at Sienna
• Why golfers hesitate to consult professionals
• Engaging insights from recent TGL matches
• Reflections on the current state of live golf rumors and player dynamics
• The art of maintaining a stress-free mindset while putting
• Humorous anecdotes that resonate with all golfers
• Emphasis on the community aspect of participating in leagues
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22:24 - Introduction and Welcome
40:55 - Sponsor Highlights and Upcoming Events
03:45:34 - Weekend Golf Recap and Performance Updates
03:57:37 - Mexico Open Highlights and Player Discussions
13:05:15 - Putting Techniques and Coaching Insights
15:00:19 - Review of Sienna Tournament
15:00:44 - Wrap Up and Final Thoughts
21:09:19 - TGL Recap and Player Performances
23:25:15 - Live Golf Rumors and Bryson Discussions
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what is up everybody.
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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.
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Jeremy's here, dan's here, I'm here.
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Joe's got a green screen going on.
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He'll be here in a little while.
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He's tending to some fatherly duties.
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So much respect to the dads out there that do their business when the moms are away.
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Not a whole lot of action going on in the golf space, but there is some behind the scenes going on and you know we're going to be talking a little bit about everything tonight.
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So, if you have some clubs that you're looking to upgrade, now is the time because that is a smoking deal to get some extra money for your used clubs that you're looking to upgrade.
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Now is the time, because that is a smoking deal, to get some extra money for your used clubs that you're not yet on ebay or marketplace or offer up or any of those other secondhand is it for a specific brand or is it just their trade-in program?
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it's their trade-in program right now.
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Yeah, go, uh, take advantage of that if you can.
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So I know I have some extra plugs lying around right now that uh, oh, man, I can get some, uh, I don't know that new titanium stuff man we got.
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I'm sharing the picture.
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We finally got our our testing uh demo head in not testing our demo head, our fitting head in today and uh picked it up and uh, yeah, it's a little picture here.
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It is right here.
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That's the uh.
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The top line it is uh, those are just blemishes from from me opening the package.
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There's nothing wrong with that.
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Uh.
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For those watching on youtube, thank you, you can see this.
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Those watching the live feed on instagram and twitter, formerly known as twitter x, you can see it.
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Those watching the live feed on Instagram and Twitter, formerly known as TwitterX, you can see it as well.
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And then this is the face-on.
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Looking at it, it's got grooves all the way across, just like on the triple diamond, but it does not have the glossy.
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It's got the carbon matte.
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Look no chevron for the logo.
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Very clean, very sleek, good sleek, good looking head, and I cannot wait to hit that thing on thursday maybe does the titanium come in a three, a three high launch and a five?
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yes, what if they'll do a seven?
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I don't know.
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I hope not, because that's too many titanium heads that I need to have at my back.
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I'm'm going to go head-to-head with it with my Smoke Max, because that's what I have right now.
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I haven't gotten the Elite 3-wood head yet because I just haven't hit better numbers with it as I was hoping, figured out how to hit my fairway wood a little bit better, so I'm hitting it well right now, although that did not take place this past weekend.
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Had to hit my fairway wood a little bit better, so I'm hitting it well right now.
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So, although that did not take place this past weekend, uh, we had our first vgn event of the season.
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We'll talk about that.
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Uh, we got, uh, maddie g with the weather uh coming up later on for this weekend.
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Uh, the mexico open took place at vedante world.
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Harry had a great day and then just couldn't bring together enough birdies without some mistakes to stay in the running, but he had a pretty decent finish.
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Good tournament for him.
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Min Woo Lee was tearing up TGL earlier tonight.
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It's wild to see Brooks Koepka there.
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Wasn't expecting to see a live guy in the house Then.
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Rumors are flying all around today that bryson is not re-signing with live.
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So we'll see how much truth comes out to that, because you know, with the live guys it's every week there's oh big signing coming and nothing happens.
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Um, that talk has kind of died down a lot.
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You know it used to be every week.
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There was rumors of this and this and I think when Tony Finau it was done, deal, tony Finau's coming, and then he came out and said no, I think those rumors stopped Full Swing.
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Season 3 just came out.
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So I don't know, are you guys going to dabble in that again and see?
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I watched it and it looked a little bit more interesting.
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I just barely finished.
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I didn't watch Full Swing Season 2 until last week and I just finished it yesterday.
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Still haven't finished it.
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Yeah, I didn't think it was that great.
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Yeah.
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So we'll have some things to say about that, probably next week, and my video is still getting some traction.
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It's hilarious.
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I thought for sure that the both would die down about it, but it's approaching 750,000 views and the comments are still coming in every single day.
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It's crazy because Connor, our buddy Connor, out in Texas he reached out to me and he's like holy shit, dude, why didn't you tell me about this?
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I would have chimed in.
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He used to play a lab.
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He doesn't play a lab anymore.
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So I'm like, yes, chime in, so he may may have a few things to say about it on there.
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Um, and then I mean it's wild how many people and todd up in oregon who knows sam is friends with sam.
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He sent me you know we were texting about it, not on instagram, but he had some things to say and it's it's amazing how butthurt people get about the over the littlest things.
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But I I do want to give a quick shout out to somebody that I just met today.
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His name's elliot tickle.
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I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
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He's over in the UK, he's a fitter over in the UK, and he actually sent me a message, a direct message, and we had like a really good conversation, thank you.
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It's nice to know that there's people out there that actually want to have an engaging conversation, so I really appreciate that.
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Elliot, thank you so much.
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Look forward to chatting with you more and sharing more fitting dialogue with you.
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It was awesome.
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I love it and that's all I can hope for with that is to get some decent engagement from decent people about it.
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So I kind of want to wait for Joe to get here to talk about Siena, since you guys both weren't there.
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But what did you guys do over the weekend?
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Do you have any?
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I know, dan, you played national Friday morning.
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Did you go?
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play it.
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Yeah, I got out Friday morning with, uh, one of my coworkers, um, still in good shape, man, natty's Natty's looking nice, like a real nice.
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Our friend was there, oh.
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Dylan.
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Yep, he was there.
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He was there.
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Didn't see him in the morning when we teed off but when we came, back and made the turn.
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Yeah, there he was Still with the sunglasses on, so I don't know if there was any eye contact made, but I was definitely burning a hole in his head with my eyes.
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That's for sure, oh Dylan Dylan, still a little man dylan so how'd you play?
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are you still on your heater?
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Um, played pretty good.
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I shot 73 this time around.
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But um, yeah, I'm just, I'm solid.
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Play right now.
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So that's all I can ask for okay, so what?
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what has it been for you?
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Because you've been a good player for a long time, but you kind of I know you had a lot of work going on.
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You weren't playing as much.
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Was that, um, what happened?
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or what else.
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I think a lot of it was maybe just um, just the fact that I was working, I wasn't like really motivated to play and just over the last like two or three months I've kind of maybe because I've gotten new clubs um, it's kind of sparked me to want to play a little bit more.
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For a while there I got a really bad putting funk.
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My putting confidence was very much shot, and over the last couple months too, I've seen that turn around.
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I've been putting a lot at the house when I have some free time and at work and stuff like that when I can.
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But, um, yeah, I think I'm starting to make a little bit more putts.
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I'm starting to see the ball go in in the hole a little bit more, so it's uh, I think that's helping a little bit nice.
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What, uh?
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what have you changed on the putting just working um yeah, just grinding, just practicing, just just practicing, just trying to groove a stroke and just be more consistent.
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It's funny.
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I was listening to the swing point.
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They had a putting coach on, and any time a putting coach is on something I'm going to listen.
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I'm not a big hitter.
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I don't hit the ball a long way.
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My iron play isn't as great as it could be I'm getting better but putting is something that I feel it's something that I could be really, really good at because it doesn't involve you don't have to be you know.
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It doesn't have to be a high swing speed, you don't have to be a crazy athlete, you know, uh.
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But there's, there's some nuances to it that I really love, and talking with preston about it, it's really opened my eyes to a lot of different things and, uh, so I'm like maybe I can just become a putting guru putting guru and uh.
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So I I love hearing different coaches talk about different things and what he was saying.
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He says you know, uh, when, when the first thing that happens, when somebody goes wrong with their putting, they change their grip.
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They hold it a different way, they try a different, they go cross-handed, they go, they try all the different grips and then they find something that they like and they do it, and then that doesn't work.
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Then they go I'll actually change the grip on the club, I'll go to a fat grip, I'll go to a skinny grip, I'll go to a tapered grip.
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Oh, maybe I'll try a shaft.
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Okay, let me try a different putter.
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And he said, and then he goes the very last thing that somebody will do that is desperate to get better at putting is we'll seek out a putting coach.
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He says, and he goes.
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So I get all the fucked up people that are coming to me that have tried everything and doesn't work, and so now I have to be responsible for helping them, which I thought was hilarious, because it's true, nobody will go first to a putting coach.
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It's true, it's changed as much as they possibly can, mainly because it's easy.
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It's really easy to go to the putting green and change your grip and try it.
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It's really easy to throw a different putter grip on.
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You know, uh, go to the putty, go to the golf store and hit 40 different putters.
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You know those are all really easy things to do.
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It's not easy to find a good putting coach that's accredited, that knows what they're doing, that has a facility and can you can sign up for lessons.
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So I would encourage anybody to reach out if you are struggling with putting.
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Reach out to a putting coach there, online coaches, there's training videos.
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There's tons of ways to access these tour caliber coaches that help professionals and, uh, you'll see a change.
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You'll see change.
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Preston has changed my mind immensely.
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I would agree.
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Putting.
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Think so, jeremy, what about you?
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Did you, uh, did you get on the course at all this weekend?
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yeah, we played.
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Dan and I and um steven played boulder creek on sunday.
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Yeah, it was a good time good you yeah, it was good.
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I couldn't find a fourth and so I had a little bit of a short notice, but it was.
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It was fun.
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I mean we got around quick, waited on a group, but it was a good time great weather, perfect weather I try.
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I played thursday and I probably shouldn't have because I've been sick, uh, then, uh, friday, um, dan wanted to.
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You know if I could make it?
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I'm like I probably could, but then I don't know.
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Two rounds and then a tournament, I don't know.
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I better pass.
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And then I played like utter trash at sienna and I'm like, no, I just need to stop.
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I need to stop, take a day of rest, get my head straight, get rid of this head cold which I'm still fighting today, and uh and, and get back to some normality.
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So, but how's the creek?
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Good shape?
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oh, yeah, it's.
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I mean it's still it's.
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It's dormant for a little bit longer, I think, but it'll, it's great.
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Yeah, it's, it's boulder creek it's always in good shape we have the uh.
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Our next two events are in boulder city for the vgn.
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We have uh, boulder muni, which is on a sunday, on the 9th, and uh, so there's I don't think 45 people signed up for that one.
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So, hey, if you want to get in the vgn, now is a great time to get in and get into an event that not a lot of people are playing in.
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Uh, I know it's a sunday and I know it's muni, so it's not like, wow, this is a tpc vegas.
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Uh, you know major uh, but it's a fun, fun golf course, real laid back, real chill, I think.
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Uh, we had probably the most people hang out afterwards the last event we had there, because I got the big clubhouse and all the boom.
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The seniors and old cooters are gone by noon, so, with the place, we had it to ourselves yeah, it's a fun course and it's I mean, the greens are small it's it's the classic muni feel.
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It almost feels like the back nine's, fairly different than the front nine, but they only had nine to be in with.
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Yeah but I mean it's a fun course.
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I'm a muni fan so it's a favorite for a muni yeah, yeah, dan signed up, joe signed up, you're signed up.
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We'll all be out there for that one.
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Yep, I tried to get a tea time there on sunday, but it's completely booked there and boulder creek for this sunday, which is weird wow because now I have I can do two weeks out, but there was nothing available oh, because you're a card member.
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Yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna have to check again.
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Maybe there's I don't.
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Is there some event happening in vegas that weekend?
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But?
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nascar.
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No, that's, that's the weekend after us could be a tournament or something, then yeah yeah, I'll check again if we can get tee time, if you guys
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want to play I know, boulder Creek hosts so many tournaments that they don't have places that people want to play there.
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They'll send them all over to Muni.
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Yeah, that could be the case, but I guess we could start talking about Sienna.
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I'll give a little love here to the gentleman who won.
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We had some newcomers.
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This is Curtis.
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I don't even know how to say his last name, I'm not even going to butcher it Kowalik Kowalik.
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He had a hell of a round.
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He was the only player that shot under par in the Diamonds division had a great day.
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Then we had another new member.
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Ryan Doyle had a great round in the spades division.
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Uh, ret mickelson, who was the uh hearts.
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He won the hearts finals tournament last year.
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He joined the season late, made it to the finals, won the finals event and almost beat red drop for the title.
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And then, uh, last new member, justin cameron, who's in the clubs division, who shouldn't have been in the club division, and I owe the club division an apology for that.
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Uh, so he's no longer in the club put it that way uh, yeah, so he just hadn't fully established his handicap.
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He had, uh, three rounds posted and one of them was low, lower than the other two.
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The other two were mid-90s and they were at a harder golf course and so I used that as a comparison and when I asked him what he typically shoots, yeah, and then he went out and shot an 84 and lapped the field.
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So, yeah, that's more than likely what I'm going to do and I need to discuss it with everybody on the board is just award all the points to that flight based on him not being there.
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I know I can't do anything about the prize money and the trophy, but that won't happen with Justin.
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Again, I'm sorry, but you know, hey, justin, again I I'm sorry, but you know, hey, sometimes players have some shit happens you know, hey, and uh word.
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Uh, a little warning out to everybody.
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The commissioner curse is back in full effect.
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Uh, joe and myself played with uh caleb and ethan, uh, two new members, and uh, yeah, I, I let my bad play wear off on them completely.
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So my apologies, gentlemen.
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Uh, I am sorry for that.
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Uh, the curse had been broken, but uh, it's back.
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Yeah, joe, maybe that's why I played so terribly.
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You've got excuses.
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You've played with me before.
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So, uh, yeah, sienna and and this is what I wanted to talk with joe was here because uh, sienna played very different than I've ever seen it.
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Uh, the the greens were receptive, firm, not receptive fir, firmer, fast, very fast.
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The pin locations were not ideal for scoring, I guess you could say would be the right way to phrase it A lot of on-rises and ridges, and I mean the greens were so fast.
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On the first hole we started on 16, which is the short par 4 before the super short par three, and joe hit a beautiful t-shot to right up on the front apron, chipped it up eight feet past the hole and four putted because he hit his butt and I thought it was going in.
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I'm like fucking joe coming out here starting birdie on the first hole and it caught the hill and, because it was in the back left, rolled all the way down almost to the front of the green.
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He putted it back up, it apexed the hill and then rolled all the way right back down to him again and he got the next one all the way up a little bit past the hole and that one almost it, it almost flipped and wow again, I mean they were very, very fast, uh, and it was.
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It was wild to see some of those putts happening like that.
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And then I had a complete meltdown on 11.
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The other short par 4 hit my tee shot into the bunker on the right, had 100 yards in and hit a wedge that just came up short and rolled down to the bottom of the hill.
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Hit it up, roll to the bottom of the hill, hit it on the green, roll to the bottom of the hill.
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It is, it took me, it was absolutely ridiculous and I'm like man, you know, I'm upset that that happened, but it's, it's not like I hit bad shots, you know.
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I mean it's through.
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The balls were pretty much on the green and rolled off.
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So, yeah, it was uh, it was a.
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It was a tough day out there and then I just couldn't get off the damn t-box.
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Couldn't get off the damn t-box, but one in the water on the first it's usually pretty mild yeah, yeah it.
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Oh.
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And joe, uh, you were wrong about that ruling of the the debris.
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I talked to jeremy about that.
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You were wrong you owe me you owe me at least katie's not home, but I would just hear it.
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Okay, all right, I was gonna try and she wants to listen to records.
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But yeah, those greens were fucking.
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They're quick dude, they're very fast there now I I had never seen him that fast and cliff said he'd never seen him that fast.
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