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oh hey, no intro this week, why not?
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What the hell fuck it.
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Fuck we're doing it, buddy, we're doing it live doing it live here.
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We'll do this.
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We'll get some ducks rolling.
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What is up everybody?
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Welcome to another episode of the chasing daylight podcast.
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It helps if you start instagram too.
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Oh, my goodness, I'm just a mess this morning, or?
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this evening.
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Oh, you're off I'm all off, you're off.
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Joe started talking band and I got all flustered and welcome to the show, everybody, welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Episode 310 there's quite a bit of oh, look at that grinding golf in the house.
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We need to do some vgn head covers.
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Yes, yeah, uh, thanks everybody.
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Uh, instagram's going now.
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We love the interaction, so bring it, bring it, bring it, bring it.
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Last week we were chatting TGL, which we'll talk some more TGL.
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This week.
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We checked out Swingers LV, the indoor putt-putt place in Vegas.
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We'll talk about that.
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And I love craps.
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Now, I'm a big craps guy.
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Big craps guy.
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Yeah, bgc.
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Uh uh, juju and I were down in Havasu for a putter uh event.
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That that was a lot of black.
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That was a lot of fun, it was a blast.
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Um, I got a new putter showed up today.
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That was a lot of blast.
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It was a lot of blast.
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It was a lot of blast.
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We had some fun.
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Torrey Pines took place this past weekend, pebble Beach is this week.
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We got Revere coming up this Sunday.
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I was hitting the Elite Driver and Indoor Trackman.
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Got some cool numbers about that.
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And then this morning I interviewed lance reader from crank golf.
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Everybody knows crank from the long drives and bryson dechambeau.
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That was uh blice.
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It's so funny because when we haven't done a one-on-one interview with anybody it's been a while and I always get nervous when I do the interviews because I I got my questions that I want to ask and you know we had a pre-phone call last week talking about what we chat about and a lot of times I'm like I'm looking through my questions and I'll look up it's been 20 minutes and I'm like how the hell am I going to get another 30 minutes?
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out of this, you know, to make it a viable interview.
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We were chatting.
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I looked up an hour and five.
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I mean it flew by.
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Lance is a 100% golf nerd that owns a driver company that is doing some amazing things and I cannot wait to share it with you.
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Later on in the episode I got a little teaser that we'll share so you can kind of see how the format was and everything.
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But it was a lot of fun and I had a blast.
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Can't thank him enough for that.
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Yeah, so let's get it.
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Uh, let's get into some some golf chatter joe, you want to start with uh uh swingers.
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Yeah, we can.
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So uh, yeah, I turned 40 on saturday, happy belated birthday, by the way.
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Yes, sir, you were, you were there so yeah shout out to you shout out
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and tray and tray and tray.
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Uh, no, I had, I had no idea.
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So, wife surprised, because I mentioned it a couple months ago.
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I said it'd be cool to get like everybody together to go play swingers and check it out.
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So, uh, she uh successfully achieved a surprise out of me.
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But uh, it was cool it.
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The only thing is it's I mean, it's like real mini golf.
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It's different from pop stroke, for sure, but it's just too quick, it's too fast.
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I mean we played for 15 minutes yeah it it
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felt I mean it felt like 10 minutes, like we were done in 10 minutes.
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You know they got three nine holes but uh, it was fun, like no doubt about it, it was a lot of fun, but um, it just was, it was so fast and it was over before we knew it.
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I feel like I mean, especially with me getting like three aces, you know, so it was just quick it was.
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It was very packed Like, very packed Like shoulder to shoulder Way more people than I thought were going to be in there for sure, yeah.
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And the holes are like on an 8x10 piece of plywood.
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That's how big the holes are.
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They're not big, not very big, and they're lined up in a row and it's like you go to one, then you go to the next one, then you go to one and you go to the next one, then you go to the next one and you know they, they say everybody, put out your ball, you know, and then the next person go and and they're not crazy difficult holes, it's, it's fun, you know, it's a, it's a putt putt place and but then you're, then you're waiting for the next group and then you shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, and then you play, and then you're waiting for the next group and then you shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, and then you play and then you're waiting for the next group and shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle and it's it's very conveyor belty.
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Uh, you know that's.
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I mean, that's how many golf is nowadays, though it's like you know, it's, it's cramped, it's, you know, and the hardest hole was the windmill hole.
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That's the only one that really gave any of us any difficulty, and it's, it's.
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It's just it's too quick.
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The the holes aren't long enough at all.
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Like you know, I would have loved for it to be 10 more minutes.
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You know, worth of golf, you're paying, we were having fun with it.
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Oh yeah, we're paying.
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We're paying 30 bucks, you know, for 10 15 minutes.
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There's no replay, it's not.
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It's not like pop stroke, where once you get in you can go as much as you want but I think you can pay for an extra nine, uh, for a discounted price.
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But like when we rolled up, you know, they said they didn't have any tea times for two and a half hours basically, and and katie finagled it to where, like I called earlier, they say get us in.
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And then they're like, oh, let me check with somebody, and then, oh yeah, we can get you in.
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You know, I don't know if they're playing that game of exclusivity or anything but um, it was packed so did you only play nine holes, or?
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all three.
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We played nine holes.
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Then we went upstairs to their carnival area which has a bunch of games from like old school, like excalibur, circuscus which is cool and they're all golf themed yeah, and, and you get tickets and then you can trade in your tickets for, like, golf towels or ball markers or tees or golf balls, things like that.
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But uh, we, we did a little loop and then we hit the craps table we're like, we're out yeah, matt's first time playing craps, which uh he's not crazy.
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I almost broke his knee also.
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Yeah were you as lucky as trey was apparently we all won, we all, we all won I, I left, but I was up 300 bucks, so I I was happy I haven't.
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I love craps.
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Craps is my favorite casino game and, uh, to share matt's first time on the craps table was awesome.
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Um, we, we got locked in at the 15 minimum, which was fantastic because they automatically up, that's at 25 as soon as four more people showed up you know, I was teaching matt how to play the game and it's, it's fun, dude, it's a community game.
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It's like you know me, matt and trey on the corner we're all like rooting for each other.
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It's, it's a blast.
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And matt hit this heart eight and, uh, I had money on the heart eight we all had money on the heart eight and then I fucking just bear hugged him and lifted him up and I almost broke his knee like the knees it was fun I.
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That's the most fun I've had on craps table in a long time, long time yeah, it was.
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It was good threw a couple dice off the table a couple times, so same dice, same dice you learned same dice it was, uh, it was a good time.
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But if this is what I'd tell you, because a bunch of people, after I posted some pictures, were sending me messages, what do you think?
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What do you think what?
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do you think same yeah?
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same about swingers and this is this is what I was telling everybody.
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You need to go just to check it out, to see what it's like, so you can say that you've been.
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Will you go again?
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And probably not.
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Maybe if you got a buddy in town that's staying in mandalay bay and you want to go hang out, you know maybe, but there's a lot of other, better places to hang out in my opinion.
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But it's, it's cool.
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It's cool to see.
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It's a, you know.
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Going back to it's where the rum jungle was.
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If anybody remembers where that was in the, as soon as you walk in from the parking garage, it's right there.
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So for me it's like you know, we don't have a lot of mini golf town or mini golf that's like that.
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You know, um, it's cool that it's adults only.
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but like, theo loves mini golf and he can't go there because it's not welcome for kids, I think they need to open it up during the day for families, like maybe on saturdays yeah one day a week, you know because theo would love to do that, like in the, like you said, in the morning, like in the summertime, when people are at the pool and they're taking a break.
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Oh, let's go's.
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Go do a putt-putt for a little while.
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Grab some frozen drinks.
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Yeah, and it doesn't have to be every day.
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I did love that their frozen drinks had great names.
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Yeah, Frostelay.
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They had.
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Frostelay was a great name for a frozen drink at a mini golf place.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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What's up Juju?
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Good stuff stuff yeah, oh yeah, comment's coming in.
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I didn't see that.
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We got.
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Uh, sup, fam, what you doing the house all right, so that that covers swingers and craps?
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Uh, that was a lot of fun.
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I it's what was nice.
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And train, we were talking about this.
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That, the the craps.
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What do you call them?
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Joe attendance uh, dealers, crap dealers, yeah, yeah they were very, very cool.
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They weren't.
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They weren't assholes, they, they were cool.
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The the guy was helping joe helped me explain what was going on and you know he was really, really cool and that that made it a lot of fun.
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So well, that's also the thing when you're playing craps like I, my dad was a crap stealer, so, like I, was laying down bets for them from the beginning.
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Um, you got to do that, you want them to take care of it, and when matt hit that hard eight, they actually had six dollars on that hard eight, so they made like sixty dollars off that roll from your roll, yeah.
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So, um, obviously that gets them into the game and they're, of course, more willing to help you if, if, if, you're throwing bets out there for them.
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So dude and trey threw double sixes to set the set the point, and then he threw double sixes on the next roll.
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It was back-to-back box cars from trey was crazy it was crazy, but I mean it would be fun if we had, you know, like 10 of us all that, all hung out and just mobbed and took over craps table yeah, that's what we used to do that I could, that I could see happening so yeah, maybe we'll have our vg and board meeting around a crap's table.
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I just got a bad roll going on.
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That's a whole different story.
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Everybody's got a bad roll going on.
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That's a whole different story, everybody's shit in the bed.
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Tory pines I know ever since we went and played tory pines everybody kind of gets up to watch this one because you get to see those guys just play great golf on an incredibly hard golf course.
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They had some struggles with the wind.
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They had to have a wind delay the course was firm, it was fast, it was rough, was thick and uh, yeah, I'd seen people lay up on 13 was impressive, because normally those guys bomb it down there so far that they can, you know, hit the low irons into that.
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But uh, seeing that a lot of guys have to lay up to the bottom of the valley was a different way to watch Torrey.
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Congrats to Harris English on the win.
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Ludwig got sick and made it through, so kudos to him for not taking the WD and getting some points and playing, but it's always fun seeing Torrey on TV.
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Yeah, yep.
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Should we tell him he's on mute or just let him go?
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I think that where they really failed is we got Torrey Pines again coming up.
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Yep, that's a bad choice.
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It's going to be interesting Real soon and it's going to be a better field too.
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Be interesting, yeah, and it's gonna be a better field too yeah, it's gonna be a better field, and the only thing that's good is it's only gonna be the south course, so I'm as far as I know, I can't imagine them playing the north course again yeah, no, I think I think pga tour fucked up with that one.
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Like I know that um riviera can't be played currently, but better options were out there, especially like for them to pick a course that is being played this week and then they're gonna play it again in a few weeks, like that's just.
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They fucked up too.
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It's the least amount of effort.
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Yeah, I mean, I understand from like a logistical standpoint, like they don't have to put stands up anymore.
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You know everything it was a total phone in.
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They phoned in, they.
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They said what can we do to spend the least amount of money?
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Yeah, yeah go to tory.
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I mean they should have just said fuck it and had it at at uh, where it's supposed to be at riviera and dealt with.
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You know, raise some money from support for the fires and everything.
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But I mean I guess it's, I don't know.
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I haven't seen recently so many so many options.
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They had so many options, you know, and they probably went to the furthest option away from where they were to do it yeah, there's many options to be between tory and uh riviera.
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Like trump national, have been great I'd love to see them at pasa well, that's north, north but I know, yeah, that would be sick rams hill.
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I think rams hill would have been fantastic.
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I mean, I think they got to it up and they're scared to shake it up, Yep, but it does save them money.
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So I do understand that aspect.
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But we don't need to see Torrey twice in a month, you know.
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Well, I mean, the US Open was recently there, and then you have, you know, the farmers.
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It's a thing bro.
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I mean there's been a lot of tori.
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It's kind of like when quail hollow stale getting stale it was.
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You know, every year there was something going on at quail hollow and we've got a lot of quail hollow.
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Now we're getting an overdose of tori yeah, yeah, letting it get stale and and you don't need that currently, especially with the hype of TGL and Liv.
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I still okay, so we can talk about TGL.
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I still have not watched this week's episode.
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I got it recorded, but you guys all said best one so far.
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Yeah, by a margin.
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Yeah, it was way better.
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So what made it better?
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Personalities, the Tiger Rory sort of rivalry, tom Kidd.
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Not a blowout yeah not a blowout, it went down to it.
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He had a shootout at the end.
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Nice.
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Yeah, you got to watch it.
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It was good.
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Yeah, I'll probably watch it tomorrow.
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I was going to try and watch it.
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It was good yeah, I'm gonna.
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Uh, I'll probably watch it tomorrow.
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I was gonna.
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I was gonna try and watch it today, but so so much going on today.
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Good grief, I'm a busy man, it's seeing that.
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It's funny seeing them, like all those flubbed chip shots that you see during the tgl with the grain they're hitting chips into the grain and it hits the edge of the collar and just pops straight up and stop.
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That's interesting.
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I mean it's like they expect it to act like a real green, which?
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It takes time to get used to, for sure, that's what.
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I've said.
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I've said that the chipping seems to be the biggest issue that they have because it's fake grass and there's no common reaction for artificial turf and a wedge.
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It's going to react differently almost every time because it's not real grass.
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Well, kisner had a putt from um off the green and uh, he putted it and it just like popped up, like and it popped pop, and it didn't even make two or three feet yeah yeah yeah, I'm curious like it's it's cool, it's amazing, like the technology is truly amazing.
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but I'm wondering if, for next season, if they're going to change the green up and try to advance that a little bit, because it's it's interesting, because you know where they are on the green at every time, like you see the same hill but it's from a different angle.
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I'm curious if they'll figure out a way to change it yeah, I do that hill Cause change that thing.
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Yeah, yeah, I do that hill because that hill is always there.
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There's always that, like every time, opti, or every time, every time, and with the pendulums or whatever they have under the green, like it's, that hill is always there they need to sit broke.
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Yeah, it was too severe yeah yeah it's like an automatic six feet by the hole every time you put it on it.
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And then you see guys that are like oh, come down, come down, and it stays.
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And then they have this on the screen.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then it just touches the ball.
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You know, they just touch the touch and it takes off and it's like that should have rolled back.
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But regarding that Hill?
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Yeah, that regarding that Hill, though.
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In the playoff it was interesting to see Keegan Bradley hit the hill, but he didn't make it all the way up and it came all the way back down.
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But Tom Kim drove it into the hill and checked up onto the top of the tier, so it's like these guys are going to figure it out eventually.
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Yeah, yeah it's getting a lot of.
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It was interesting, go ahead.
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I think it was kisner, I can't remember who hit that approach shot and it clearly should have rolled down like rolled back down towards the flag, but on the screen it just stuck there in the middle, like in the middle of the downslope.
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It stuck on the green.
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So they have to move.
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They couldn't set the ball down because it was just rolling, so they had to move it around the hill.
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That was interesting, but can you explain what the hammer is?
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I still don't get that.
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What is the hammer?
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for it just doubles the points for the whole.
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It's basically a press.