Jan. 15, 2025

308: From Frost Delays to Flight Tales: Tiger's TGL Impact, Harry Hall’s Surge, & Mike Strantz's Unique Courses

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This week's episode explores the intersection of golf and life, featuring lively stories from tournaments, insightful gear discussions, and the personal journeys of each host. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own experiences with golf and how the game shapes their mindset. 

• Recap of Harry Hall's recent success at the Sony Open 
• Discussion on the recent trip to South Carolina and unexpected delays 
• In-depth exploration of True Blue and Caledonia golf courses 
• Insights into Charleston Muni's historic design and template holes 
• The psychological impact of streaks in golf and life 
• Emphasis on enjoyment and connection over competition 

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Chapters

00:16 - Golf Podcast Banter and Updates

12:19 - PGA Tour Banter and Updates

18:10 - Golf Trip in Rain and Frost

31:17 - Mike Strantz Course Reviews

41:37 - East Coast Golf Exploration and Appreciation

50:09 - Golf Store Visit and Chit Chat

01:00:08 - Streaks and Mindset Shifts

01:04:50 - Equipment Streak Break and Odds Discussion

01:11:11 - True Blue Golf Course Recommendation

Transcript
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This is Harry Hall and you're listening to the Chasing Daylight Podcast.

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This is Harry Hall and you're listening to the Chasing Daylight Podcast.

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Hey, what is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast and congrats to Harry Hall on his second top 10 of the season.

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Off to a banging start.

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He's actually in the Comcast top 10 right now, so congrats to him on a killer start to the new year.

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Golf is back in the mainland this week.

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Joe, jot this down.

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Let's do the odds near the end of the show, like we used to.

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We haven't done that in a long time, so maybe some people might find that entertaining.

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As again, let's see if they got them up.

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Yeah, I mean, should it's the.

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Amex.

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I saw them on ESPN already, so they should be up there.

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So thanks everybody for tuning in.

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We're live on YouTube, we are live on X and we are live on Instagram.

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Already got some people popping on there Sports Dad 1, golf Ho.

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Thank you all for tuning in, also real quick.

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Want to thank the Golf Stop for their continued support for the show Roars Golf out in Miami.

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The man, the legend, uh, the myth, all of those things.

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And uh, las vegas gold superstore, along with scott russo from unwritten law, because we do love that harmonic intro hey fellas, how's, it?

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going great cold going well joe dan you a little tired yes, I am, yeah, dan got monday to just chill.

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I think I did not so nice, nice, did you?

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uh, how was the flyback?

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everything okay, no issues, no delays, nothing I mean you might need to ask dan that one, but I mean it was fine we, uh, we had a little delay, but yeah, it was.

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Uh, it was a crazy flight back home.

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Everybody fell asleep and the flight attendant just took a liking to me.

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It was a flight attendant.

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She picked him out of the crowd, right off the bat man.

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Julian did not tell me it was a flight attendant.

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I thought he made it sound like it was a passenger.

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Oh no, wow, oh, so were you up there earning some frequent flyer miles.

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I didn't earn anything really, but she was cool, so I fell asleep right and I had one and a half beers.

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Did you pay for my beers?

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No, okay, so shout out to her, you free beers yeah, she must open up for you nice, nice, all right so you guys go good together, they go good together you guys got back from south carolina, we'll, we'll be talking about that.

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Uh, the sony open took place.

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So he said here he got a top 10 in haw for the final event in Hawaii, went to the first playoff of the season.

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That was kind of exciting.

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The new gear from Callaway's hitting stores Got my elite hat being displayed in the green elite background.

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I didn't know Joe was repping the elite stuff as well already.

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So respect, respect Jeremy on his trip can.

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If you're watching on instagram or youtube or x, you can see he's rocking some new headwear because he was, uh, down in scottsdale visited.

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Yeah, new level, true facility with doc for a little bit and, uh, I hung out with Doc for a little bit, and Titleist just lost another player.

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Yeah, it did, Wow wow.

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So we'll be talking about that.

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And then today I was chatting with somebody from Crank Golf.

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We're going to have Lance Reeder, the owner, the man behind Crank Golf, is going to come on.

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We're going to have an interview with him and talk about all the things that they're doing with all the success that they have had, and that should be a fun episode.

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I I love talking gear with people, so, and then, uh, roars and I we haven't recorded a while, our schedule just haven't jived lately, but he's been getting all the new stuff in.

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Uh, you know, I I'm dealing mainly with Callaway, he's dealing with all of it, and we've got some great conversation pieces that we want to start mainly revolving around from the fitter standpoint, not the player standpoint, the fitter standpoint, the new cog on the Cobra drivers that has 32 different adjustable settings.

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So we we will be talking about that.

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I will say this absolutely brilliant from a fitting standpoint.

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Absolutely horrible that they're allowing people to take those off the shelf.

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buy them and take them home so uh yeah, word said uh, yeah, I'm going to be ordering them, it's going to come in, I'm going to super glue the adapter in place and ship it.

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Nobody needs to have that much adjustability, that's a lot.

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That's just too much, you know what.

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In a previous life, though, matt, I think you would have thrived having that many options.

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The Tinkertown would be.

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Hey, I will tell you I would have gone nuts on it and it would have really fucked with me.

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Because I mean with that, if you don't know what is causing what, or why what is happening, you can have a hundred changes on there and none of it's going to work for you because you have no idea.

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You know, unless you hit the center of the face with every ball strike.

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I, I think callaway has too many options on theirs because you know, there's just, there's some things that don't need changing, as some people swings or some people swings, and it's not going to change.

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So it's.

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It's nice that we have options, but it's good for some people, I would think, but uh, terrible for others.

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But uh, like, you know, like the the callaway, uh hosel is is nice, I mean it's easy to remember.

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Like, especially if you take a golf trip, take off your head, you know, you know what it's at you know, like if you take a golf trip, take off your head, you know, you know what it's at.

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Yeah, you know like, even for me, with my five wood and the tailor-made hosel, I know I'm like one to the right of standard loft, so but if there's like options that aren't labeled, like you know and you go on a trip man, that you definitely gotta take pictures of your settings before, when you gotta, when you gotta, bring a pdf with you to yeah exactly open up to make sure you have it on the right.

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I don't know it.

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Just, it just seems like you said overkill a little bit.

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But hey, you never know, you never know.

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Uh, tgl had their second week just wrapped up earlier.

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The start time threw everybody for a little bit of a curve big beef.

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I got big beef with that yeah, I figured you would.

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I know I posted that and you're like it's already on and I'm like oh shit, he didn't I.

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I found it by accident, so I just thought I was in the, not knowing that it was coming on at four instead of six our time, which I mean.

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I also think it's a big miss for them too.

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Like you know.

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Like you know they, they had great ratings last week.

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Uh, the ratings were higher than something else.

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I can't remember, but I saw stats, but I mean you got you got tiger for the first time on tgl and you start it before the west coast is done, working with a typical business day.

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Yeah, you know, um, some people get off earlier.

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You know, of course, but you can't.

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You can't do that the first time tiger is showing up to the tgl.

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You can't start it before five.

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You can't do that.

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And if that's the case you should have done, you should have started tiger last week at six pm, prime time.

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It's only two hours.

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So like 8 pm, uh, eastern 5 pm, start on the west coast is.

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It's perfect timing.

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The east coast is done by better than four yeah, I mean, what the hell is up with seven like oh, they got to get home for the 10 pm news or something, and on the east coast I don't know.

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But yeah, that was bad.

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I think that was a big miss on their part big miss.

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So they'll see what happens with the reading.

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So I don't know if they're going.

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You know we didn't get as much audience on the east coast because it started later.

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So let's flip it this week and see what happens.

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But I think they're going to lose a lot of west coast viewership.

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So I don't know, maybe they're like well, there's, you know.

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No, I'm not gonna go there.

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I mean, if they want to get ratings, I mean they have to cater to both coasts, you know.

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I mean I know that they probably don't care about the West Coast, but if they want ratings, they need it.

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It needs to be 8 pm Eastern start and it needs to be consistent.

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It can't be.

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Last week was 6 pm West Coast start, 9 pm Eastern.

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If they want to make this work, it needs to be consistent.

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I mean, it's it's not like, you know, football, where people are going to watch regardless and it's on the weekends.

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You know, this is a tuesday night where people got things going on.

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So it's like, make it consistent, don't change your fucking times.

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Because I was expecting like to grab the kids, get their dinner ready and then they start eating and then 6 pm I throw on tgl and I get to watch while they eat.

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You know, yeah, that was a big curveball.

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I didn't.

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I didn't like that at all I'm wondering if it has anything to do with like scheduling um yeah, because they're having a basketball game or something tonight, exactly, yeah, that espn already had, you know, committed to cover, so they're like, guess what you know?

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Tgl is going to be in the four o'clock slot.

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Yeah, Duke, miami was on.

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Yeah, I agree.

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It's a terrible, terrible time to play such a big, big name match like that, you know, with Tiger's debut in it.

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But another blowout.

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Yeah, another blowout.

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Another blowout.

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Let's talk about how pedestrian Kisner lived tonight.

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Blading in the back and then flagstick if he's lucky that could have been in the crowd he's getting used to that uh, that uh booth.

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You know that announcer's booth living comfortable up in there when they were interviewed, tiger and he's like that thing was rising, it was gonna hit somebody yeah, for sure but, it was good to see them being like friends and playing though like oh yeah I, I do think in that aspect it was better than last week's in the you know trash talk, uh, personality aspect a little bit better personalities.

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It was nice to see justin rose having a little fun out there, because he always has seemed like a stuffy neck guy.

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It was great seeing Saheeth out there.

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Kisner's great Han was great.

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Tiger is Hanma who said Hanma, max, hanma, max, hanma.

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Did he create Hanma Max?

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Homa.

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I'm sorry, homa, he's a Homa, so it was nice seeing their banter.

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They have a little bit more personalities.

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We'll see what happens.

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I don't know.

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Tiger, I think when he's on the course he's a little bit better than when he's off the course, because him in the booth last week was not good and he hasn't always been particularly great at the genesis I, I mean, I do think that you know, like, of course, tiger didn't play up to his standards, that we think he should, but I think it was just cool to see them in a relaxed atmosphere.

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I mean, it's, it's not real golf, it's simulator golf, like kisner was, like I flushed that one and it was like 10 yards short.

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You know, yeah, yeah, that's the same thing we've done at five iron, so it's relatable, which I enjoy you know, so is it?

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joe from lofty?

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Is that the account that's on instagram?

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You guys follow him at all uh, he made a post.

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I think that's what I'll have to look and see uh, he made a post earlier today uh, after tgl and he was saying that you know when you're watching a PGA Tour event on the weekends unless you're watching PGA Tour live, but the casual viewing fan that flips on NBC at 2 o'clock in the afternoon watching they're highlighting the leaders, the guys that are tearing it up.

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They're not looking at the person that is at the bottom of the field, and so you're seeing elite players playing elite golf.

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Well, now you have six guys and if someone's struggling, guess what, they're getting televised, and so he said it's.

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He thinks that you know, potentially it could be a viewership problem, that people aren't going to get behind watching guys struggle.

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Whereas he said and I agree, I love watching pros struggle.

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Because it makes me relate to them a little bit more.

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Totally.

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We're never going to match bank accounts.

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We certainly can match Housel Rockets in a bunker, greenside, you know.

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So we'll have to see Uh-oh Hot take Tiger walking out to Eye of the tiger was a bit cringy I didn't catch that because I didn't know what time it started, but uh, I gotta assume that that might be a bit cringy yeah, when I turned it on they were, uh, getting ready to hit, but everybody was talking about the tiger.

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Entrance was electric, so I was, but you know, I have the tiger.

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Tiger, come on.

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That makes sense I did see the meme where it was like the, the haze and the fog and he's walking out and it's like there's red lights and his like eyes are a little low and it's like me back in 10th grade in the back seat in my friend's car yeah, uh, I can relate I can relate yeah, so we'll see.

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We'll see if that happens.

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Uh, I mean, oh, can't wait for the first tgo crash out.

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Yeah, I, I can't wait for, you know, a ball in the stands.

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That's going to be fantastic, it's bound to happen.

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And then, oh, there's going to be nets now all the way around.

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Yeah, and you said you sent the ticket prices too.

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Do you think that it did?

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Was that for tonight's?

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match.

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What did it say?

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I don't.

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I don't remember, but I just saw that and went wow.

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Yeah, I mean it was $846.

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I think there's not a lot of seats in the place but I mean, for the first time tiger showing up, I could see.

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I could see that price.

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You know, it's like if lebron comes to, comes to see the indiana pacers or something like, the tickets are probably going to be higher on resale caitlin clark coming and playing the aces.

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Oh, let's move the arena to t-mobile, where it fits 17 000 yeah, I mean I'm curious to see where that goes, because they don't have a lot of seats in that building.

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No, this was down in section 118, row WC1, $876.

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That's insane.

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That was a tweet from MondayQInfo.

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He's like no, I don't want to play in the TGL, I just want to watch.

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And it shows the ticket prices at $876 each, which is that's as much as the Ryder Cup isn't it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, $750 for the Ryder Cup, which they did.

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They did earlier this week right T's expansion to Las Vegas.

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Yes, Phoenix Vegas.

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And what was the other one?

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Did they say in that?

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Was it Seattle or something like that?

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Maybe Seattle, yeah, so you know, we got the space for it.

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We do.

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I mean they're not going to convert the sphere, because that's.

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I mean that would be awesome, but that's not going to happen.

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Yeah, that'd be crazy.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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You know all I got?

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They got all that room behind the uh paris.

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You know where they have, uh, the battle bots, yeah, and formula shout out jared.

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Are they talking about, like building a whole facility, or is it just a team from vegas?

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oh, I don't know yeah, that's what I didn't know for sure.

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So oh well, if it's a, I mean, why would you hype up a team expansion because there's no?

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Just hey, we're gonna add more players.

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Just do that you know, yeah, like if you want a team.

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I mean, like you know, the teams don't make sense already.

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Anyway, yeah, because if we get, if we get you know some golfers I can't stand that aren't even from Vegas.

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Now you fill it with all the UNLV guys that are playing on tour Harry Hall, Ryan Moore.

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Harry, Ryan Moore, Taylor Montgomery.

00:16:32.945 --> 00:16:33.046
Or.

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Kitayama.

00:16:34.028 --> 00:16:34.750
Kitayama.

00:16:34.750 --> 00:16:36.386
Hey, yeah, that's a Vegas team.

00:16:36.900 --> 00:16:37.804
I can get behind that.

00:16:38.820 --> 00:16:40.243
All coming out there wearing Rebel Red?

00:16:40.243 --> 00:16:41.767
Yeah, that would be awesome.

00:16:41.807 --> 00:16:42.489
Or live here.

00:16:42.489 --> 00:16:48.528
It's something Colin Steak and Xander Steak and Kevin Na is not getting a piece of that.

00:16:48.528 --> 00:16:52.105
No, scott Piercy.

00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:54.365
We'll see what happens with that.

00:16:54.365 --> 00:16:58.086
Did you guys watch any of the Sony Open?

00:16:58.086 --> 00:17:01.852
A little bit Not much.

00:17:02.232 --> 00:17:02.594
A little bit.

00:17:04.166 --> 00:17:15.429
You guys were in South Carolinaolina so you really don't care yeah, you were traveling, jerry, I was a homebody, I had nobody to go play golf with and sat at home and watch tv.

00:17:15.429 --> 00:17:17.375
No, it was pretty good it was.

00:17:17.375 --> 00:17:17.776
It was.

00:17:17.776 --> 00:17:19.098
It was a good tournament.

00:17:19.098 --> 00:17:22.569
You know, I was rooting for harry there and he got it to 15 under.

00:17:22.569 --> 00:17:33.453
I think he was a couple off and then had a couple whole stretch where just kind of fell off and uh didn't didn't finish as strong as he could have.

00:17:33.453 --> 00:17:42.209
But hey, like I said, another top 10 had to play off with uh, nick, taylor and Nico or however you say his last name.

00:17:44.261 --> 00:17:44.924
That was fun to see.

00:17:44.924 --> 00:17:51.613
Glad the Hawaii swing is over, because what's the guy's name that's there, that lives in Hawaii?

00:17:51.613 --> 00:17:58.193
That's, I cannot stand listening to him commentary because every shot is a bad shot.

00:17:58.193 --> 00:18:00.443
Oh, that's a poor shot from him.

00:18:00.443 --> 00:18:01.386
Oh, that's a poor shot.

00:18:01.386 --> 00:18:02.329
He's really going to be upset.

00:18:02.329 --> 00:18:03.051
Oh, that's a portion.

00:18:03.051 --> 00:18:07.049
Every freaking shot that's not within four feet of the pin.

00:18:07.049 --> 00:18:08.316
Oh, that's a bad shot.

00:18:08.316 --> 00:18:10.261
He's really going to be upset with himself, for that's a bad.

00:18:10.342 --> 00:18:24.726
It's like good lord dude, go back to maui yeah, but don't you think that's like an issue with a lot of golf, when you play with people that aren't up to your skill level, skill level or you're below their skill level, you know?

00:18:24.726 --> 00:18:28.330
I mean, I feel that way.

00:18:28.371 --> 00:18:44.846
Sometimes I mean, I'm not a great golfer, but you know if I'm, I plan on hitting the green and you know if I'm just short or something like that, I'm playing with someone I don't play with often and they're like, hey, no, that was a good shot because it's uh, he, obviously that commentator is not a good golfer.

00:18:44.987 --> 00:18:53.865
So well, I just don't think he's a better golfer than they are I just don't think every shot needs to come out with oh that was a poor shot.

00:18:53.865 --> 00:18:56.776
He's really going to be upset with that because definitely, yeah.

00:18:56.776 --> 00:19:08.223
So maybe he didn't hit it within the tour average to 15 feet, but okay, maybe the lie wasn't exactly perfect, maybe there was a gust of wind, maybe he caught a little fat.

00:19:08.223 --> 00:19:09.830
You know, it's like god man, it's just.

00:19:09.830 --> 00:19:12.381
It doesn't have to be bad about everything.

00:19:12.381 --> 00:19:16.710
He's just a pessimist, I guess I don't know, it was just.

00:19:16.971 --> 00:19:21.003
I was like put it on mute and just listen to some tf still in the background.

00:19:21.003 --> 00:19:23.507
I was watching it because I just can't stay elusive to dibs.

00:19:23.507 --> 00:19:29.055
All right, let's get into your trip.

00:19:29.055 --> 00:19:32.005
Let's hear about it.

00:19:32.005 --> 00:19:32.827
Everybody's interested.

00:19:32.827 --> 00:19:41.186
I was bummed because four of my closest friends are on a golf trip and I'm getting no content.

00:19:41.186 --> 00:19:43.961
None, I'm refreshing the app.

00:19:43.961 --> 00:19:44.523
I'm like what the hell app.

00:19:44.523 --> 00:19:46.173
I'm like what the hell is going on.

00:19:46.881 --> 00:19:53.992
so what the hell is going on go ahead, dad, we froze out pretty much day one.

00:19:53.992 --> 00:20:07.246
We uh get a call the night before we're supposed to tee off saying hey, we know you got a tee time at eight, but just to let you know, you know we've been having frost delays and we've been sending people out about 10, 30, 11 o'clock.

00:20:07.246 --> 00:20:15.567
So get on the horn later in the next morning to call them to see what the delay is going to be like.

00:20:15.567 --> 00:20:18.690
And the guy's like, yeah, let me find out.

00:20:18.690 --> 00:20:20.824
Once we talk to the superintendent, you know, we'll let you know.

00:20:20.824 --> 00:20:23.426
Calls back about 20 minutes later.

00:20:23.426 --> 00:20:25.846
Yeah, you guys are shit out of luck.

00:20:25.846 --> 00:20:28.421
We're closing the course today, which?

00:20:28.501 --> 00:20:29.085
course was that one.

00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:31.105
That was True Blue.

00:20:31.105 --> 00:20:36.269
True Blue was the first yeah, was the first one and then we were supposed to play Caledonia in the afternoon.

00:20:36.269 --> 00:20:45.615
So we hit up Caledonia and they pretty much told us that they don't see it getting much warmer and that they're going to shut it down too.

00:20:45.615 --> 00:20:48.929
So day one was a complete loss.

00:20:49.881 --> 00:20:50.986
But we also called.

00:20:50.986 --> 00:21:02.593
So we also called TPC Myrtle Beach and Prestwick, which were supposed to be played the next day, and they kind of gave us a little run around like hey, I mean it's possible, blah, blah, blah.

00:21:02.593 --> 00:21:10.092
So like up until 12, we're just trying to find a golf course that's open for the day you know, just to go play golf and not go stir crazy in the house.

00:21:11.020 --> 00:21:17.372
Um, dude at tbc myrtle beach I think his name was brian legend, that dude was awesome.

00:21:17.372 --> 00:21:27.921
Um, we prepaid for that round and he's gonna send us some rain checks because that was actually for Saturday, right?

00:21:27.921 --> 00:21:33.913
But you know we you know Trey asked like what do you guys want to play?

00:21:33.913 --> 00:21:37.671
And you know I said True Blue is number one, caledonia is number two.

00:21:37.671 --> 00:21:48.227
So we had to move True Blue and Caledonia because that was our first day which they closed the courses, and caledonia because that was our first day which they closed the courses.

00:21:48.227 --> 00:21:48.887
We moved those to saturday.

00:21:48.887 --> 00:21:51.492
And tpc myrtle beach and pressed wick, which is a pbp dye design.

00:21:51.492 --> 00:21:54.403
Um was saturday, so we just canceled that as well.

00:21:54.403 --> 00:21:59.520
And they had, uh, trey's credit card on file and the dude was really cool there too.

00:21:59.520 --> 00:22:02.086
I can't remember his name, but he canceled it for us.

00:22:02.086 --> 00:22:03.769
No charge, nice.

00:22:03.769 --> 00:22:05.392
But yeah, we went.

00:22:05.392 --> 00:22:06.073
We were a little.

00:22:06.153 --> 00:22:18.792
We went to publics two or three times on friday, just to get out of the house we were hitting, uh ping pong balls into fucking coffee cups and trying to make, uh, you know, mini golf holes in the house.

00:22:18.792 --> 00:22:28.482
Uh, on friday, because and there was no smoking in the front, no smoking in the back, so it's raining a little bit.

00:22:28.482 --> 00:22:32.991
We're walking half block down the street, uh, just to go hang out.

00:22:32.991 --> 00:22:35.082
And uh, yeah, it was.

00:22:35.082 --> 00:22:40.601
Uh, that friday was pretty rough, wow and it wasn't even that bad, though that's the thing.

00:22:40.621 --> 00:22:45.752
We were in the public and we're standing in the parking lot and I'm like this is fucking nice.

00:22:45.752 --> 00:22:48.744
And Julian kept asking me.

00:22:48.744 --> 00:22:50.089
He's like, would you play golf in this?

00:22:50.089 --> 00:22:51.586
Yes, of course I'd play golf in this.

00:22:51.586 --> 00:22:55.506
You know, it wasn't bad at all, it was actually very nice.

00:22:55.506 --> 00:23:00.690
I mean, there was no wind, there was like a little gentle drizzle.

00:23:00.690 --> 00:23:07.760
I think they were just scared of what could happen and it never came.

00:23:07.760 --> 00:23:13.781
Personally, I don't think the courses were froze, because the next day the you know tea would go down all the way, down all the way down.

00:23:14.343 --> 00:23:21.682
Yeah, so first day pretty suck, pretty bad the tray by his gallon of ice tea from publics.

00:23:23.205 --> 00:23:24.229
No, I think you skipped that one.

00:23:24.869 --> 00:23:29.451
Yeah, okay, but you did get the chicken tender sub, got it.

00:23:31.673 --> 00:23:35.022
Yeah, we also had, we definitely went to more grocery stores than we did.

00:23:35.042 --> 00:23:37.471
Golf courses on this trip, hey.

00:23:38.041 --> 00:23:41.026
Julian giving you much props.

00:23:41.026 --> 00:23:43.164
Dan said you stuck to the food diet.

00:23:43.807 --> 00:23:44.148
I did.

00:23:44.148 --> 00:23:46.026
Yeah, my mind is set food diet.

00:23:46.026 --> 00:23:46.790
I did.

00:23:46.790 --> 00:23:50.829
When my mind is set on something, I'm locked in, I'm right there with you.

00:23:52.641 --> 00:23:53.786
Except when it comes to vaping.

00:23:55.881 --> 00:23:56.986
My mind was never set.

00:23:57.541 --> 00:23:58.305
I set my mind.

00:23:58.305 --> 00:24:00.186
Somebody was trying to set his mind.

00:24:02.181 --> 00:24:03.987
We went and bought cards from Publix.

00:24:03.987 --> 00:24:08.944
We were playing cards, we had a ping pong match because there was a ping pong table in the garage.

00:24:08.944 --> 00:24:10.549
That was actually a lot of fun.

00:24:10.549 --> 00:24:11.432
That was fun.

00:24:12.782 --> 00:24:14.748
yeah, joe's nuts with a ping pong battle, bro.

00:24:14.748 --> 00:24:15.509
I didn't realize that.

00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:25.780
Joe's over there, just like he's freaking national champion forrest gump over there, just hitting these nasty little cutters and shit like damn joe, I can shape it on the ping pong table.

00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:29.289
I can shape it, I hit draws low fingers.

00:24:29.851 --> 00:24:35.988
Yeah, he's hitting power cuts with a serve and shit it's so funny when I when I play pickleball with the wife.

00:24:36.048 --> 00:24:37.760
I, because I I'm the same way with ping pong.

00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:40.247
I'm the same way as I was the same way when I played tennis.

00:24:40.247 --> 00:24:50.608
And it's like she gets so mad because I'll do this backspin liner that just stops when it hits the ground and you can never pull that off with.

00:24:50.608 --> 00:24:54.211
You know people that know what the hell they're doing when they play pickleball, but it's fun just messing around with it.

00:24:54.693 --> 00:24:56.984
Yeah yeah, but it was.

00:24:56.984 --> 00:24:58.067
I mean, all in all it was.

00:24:58.067 --> 00:24:58.930
It was a good trip.

00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:00.093
We made the most out of it.

00:25:00.093 --> 00:25:04.126
Um, even though friday all the courses were closed, it was.

00:25:04.126 --> 00:25:08.321
It was good to uh hang out, you know, have a little.

00:25:08.321 --> 00:25:09.144
The house was great.

00:25:09.144 --> 00:25:10.570
The airbnb was great.

00:25:10.570 --> 00:25:19.491
It wasn't a trailer on the side of a state highway in the middle of nowhere next to a dollar general, um, but yeah, saturday, uh.

00:25:19.491 --> 00:25:23.727
So we changed friday's two times to true blue, caledonia, no, frosted.

00:25:23.727 --> 00:25:29.729
Late saturday played true blue in the morning, caledonia in the afternoon, which that's a whole other story.

00:25:29.729 --> 00:25:39.642
The pro shop guy was like yeah, you know, we can tell you about that if you want, but um, well, yeah, that's why we're here yeah, so first of all, we can start with true blue.

00:25:39.701 --> 00:25:41.523
It was a little cold, it was chilly, but it was.

00:25:41.523 --> 00:25:48.653
It's doable, it was totally doable, it wasn't miserable, it wasn't bad and an incredible golf course.

00:25:48.653 --> 00:25:52.821
True blue, I could play every single day of my life and be completely happy.

00:25:52.821 --> 00:26:08.893
My strands flatter tobacco road not as crazy as tobacco road like so good, yeah, so good is true, blue a design of his or did he?

00:26:08.913 --> 00:26:09.532
remodel it?

00:26:09.532 --> 00:26:10.314
Did he like?

00:26:10.314 --> 00:26:12.560
I was waiting for dan to jump in, but go ahead, jeremy.

00:26:12.560 --> 00:26:14.204
So is true, blue.

00:26:14.204 --> 00:26:17.231
Did he actually design it or did he, like, renovate it?

00:26:17.772 --> 00:26:17.972
yeah.

00:26:17.972 --> 00:26:20.963
So mike strance, um, he passed away too early.

00:26:20.963 --> 00:26:25.070
He, he worked under, uh shit, tom fazio.

00:26:25.070 --> 00:26:27.755
He worked under tom fazio, uh, for a long time.

00:26:27.755 --> 00:26:29.845
He only he died early.

00:26:29.845 --> 00:26:32.010
So he only has eight solo designs.

00:26:32.010 --> 00:26:46.835
Um, his first solo design is caledonia, and then he designed true blue tobacco road, royal kent, royal new kent, stonehouse, bulls bay and, uh, the one in, uh, san jose.

00:26:46.835 --> 00:26:51.487
I forget the name, but and tot hill and thought hill and tot hill.

00:26:51.567 --> 00:26:54.873
So, um, yeah, he died too early.

00:26:54.873 --> 00:26:59.586
He also worked on monterey peninsula golf club or uh, cc, um.

00:26:59.586 --> 00:27:06.855
But his first solo design was Caledonia, and I'm assuming True Blue is next.

00:27:06.855 --> 00:27:24.612
I don't know for sure, but yeah, it's all strands, it's strands through and through and you know, this is the third strands that me and Dan have played, as well as Juju and Trey, and you start to see the characteristics pop out on the golf course.

00:27:24.612 --> 00:27:35.073
And it was interesting to play his first golf course that he designed in Caledonia, because you can see him trying to find himself.

00:27:35.073 --> 00:27:50.066
It was really fucking cool for me because Caledonia felt Fazio-esque, but then there was these like strands pieces, and he didn't want to like detour too much from where he learned.

00:27:50.066 --> 00:27:51.469
But then you play true blue.

00:27:51.469 --> 00:27:53.493
Well, I wish we played.

00:27:53.493 --> 00:27:55.887
I wish you played in chronological order, but we didn't.

00:27:55.887 --> 00:28:01.123
But true blue is is tobacco road, a flatter tobacco road, and it was incredible.

00:28:01.123 --> 00:28:09.363
Like true blue is so dope, so sick and trey almost hold out on every, every fucking part.

00:28:09.383 --> 00:28:13.480
What every fucking part what makes it so sick, though, for people that haven't played one?

00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.573
I haven't played one, I've just seen pictures it's fun.

00:28:16.854 --> 00:28:17.355
That's the thing.

00:28:17.355 --> 00:28:29.847
Like he uses a lot of like the newer art, newer designers now using a lot of the natural wild grasses and using like a lot of different of the natural contours that are there.

00:28:29.847 --> 00:28:44.123
But he also puts his little twist on it, like I'm going to go ahead and make this part, you know I'm going to raise this bump up here and make this over here a little bit bigger and more slope on this side, but he makes it where it's not like unfair.

00:28:44.123 --> 00:28:58.242
He actually built like designs like these huge, like swales and bumps to actually kind of to your benefit, cause like there's a lot of times where you hit into his green complexes and you'll see this giant slope, but if you hit it towards that slope it's going to funnel everything right down towards the hole.

00:28:58.976 --> 00:29:25.846
So he, he, like Joe said, with the three courses that we played, with Caledonia being his first and possibly true blue being the second, you could, you can totally see the progression and the risk that he take, that he took in building a course like tobacco road, because when you play tobacco road and play caledonia, I mean you both, you get the strands feel on both courses, but one is so extreme and the other one is just a lot more subdued, both fun as hell.

00:29:25.846 --> 00:29:28.130
Just he's just.

00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:33.844
You can tell that he was designing his golf courses to have fun on.

00:29:33.844 --> 00:29:36.076
He didn't really design them to kick your ass too much.

00:29:36.076 --> 00:29:38.141
He was just like, hey, let's try this.

00:29:38.141 --> 00:29:39.604
And then, you know, it came out.

00:29:39.604 --> 00:29:40.526
It came out brilliant.

00:29:40.526 --> 00:29:41.648
I think he was just.

00:29:41.648 --> 00:29:44.641
He's one of the most fun golf course designers there is.

00:29:47.714 --> 00:29:49.887
Truth, he's one of the most fun golf course designers there is Truth, is it's still?

00:29:49.907 --> 00:29:50.351
pretty long, isn't it?

00:29:50.351 --> 00:29:52.582
I was Tobacco Road's, not Tobacco Road's, not longer.

00:29:52.582 --> 00:29:57.190
They had a lot of tee boxes closed, so it could stretch out a bit for sure.

00:29:57.190 --> 00:30:01.866
That's true, I think Dan's completely correct.

00:30:01.866 --> 00:30:24.067
And also, playing the template holes that we saw at Charleston Muni, you can see how Strance used the Redan slopes and the double plateau slopes to his advantage in his mind, how he thought about a golf course which was so sick.

00:30:24.717 --> 00:30:25.721
They call him the maverick.

00:30:25.721 --> 00:30:27.019
He's a little different.

00:30:27.019 --> 00:30:33.538
He goes against the grain and I mean there's.

00:30:33.538 --> 00:30:47.875
I've never played another golf course where you drive through bunkers, for example, like the car path is the bunker bunkers, where the car path, just like at tobacco road, you drive through bunkers, you know the bunker is, you know, a hazard, but you can lay your club, especially at tobacco road.

00:30:47.875 --> 00:31:16.096
Nobody rakes any bunkers at tobacco road and it's just kind of like you hit it where you hit it and you find a way to get out of it and you you play it from there and um, a lot of like big sandy areas and like these little, you know, like round little pieces of grass that have, like, um, native grasses in them and like feeding to things, feeding to holes, different pin positions and it's like, uh, it's like a roller coaster.

00:31:16.096 --> 00:31:17.319
It's kind of like it's it's.

00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:20.165
You can be creative on his golf courses.

00:31:20.446 --> 00:31:35.476
That's what I really enjoy living for the moment yeah, exactly yeah, that's what he did and I wish he had more moments to build for us, because he's only got eight solos and, uh, it is definitely a goal of mine to play all of them.

00:31:35.476 --> 00:31:38.540
Yeah, for sure, because he is.

00:31:38.540 --> 00:31:39.383
He.

00:31:39.383 --> 00:31:41.626
Is he after this trip?

00:31:41.626 --> 00:31:42.909
He moved up like he might.

00:31:42.909 --> 00:31:45.942
He could potentially overtake Doak.

00:31:45.942 --> 00:31:50.856
He is number two for me currently.

00:31:50.856 --> 00:31:51.076
Awesome.

00:31:51.076 --> 00:31:56.202
That dude is a brilliant mind in golf course design.

00:31:56.202 --> 00:31:59.788
He went against the grain and he built golf courses for fun.

00:31:59.788 --> 00:32:02.090
You can tell that in the design.

00:32:02.090 --> 00:32:09.484
He enjoyed making the golf course to play know, and I really appreciate that.

00:32:09.605 --> 00:32:17.396
I wish he was able to build more gotta take advantage of the time you got when you're here, man, it's the yeah.

00:32:17.636 --> 00:32:28.357
The only bummer about true blue is we started on number 10 um, so I wish we would have played it to his original design um 18, which is the ninth hole that we played great finishing hole you're.

00:32:28.357 --> 00:32:33.576
You're hitting into big there's a big uh lake on the side and you're hitting into the clubhouse.

00:32:33.576 --> 00:32:47.950
But to me I think the front nine was better than the back nine, like the the front nine which was our, you know, back nine was back nine yeah, so sick, like that short par four was so dope.

00:32:48.497 --> 00:32:52.248
That par three with the water around it and it looked like a fucking dumbbell.

00:32:52.990 --> 00:33:07.866
Yeah, that par five where it just it's literally like a sea yeah, goes around that big lake so many amazing golf holes, so many rob says you got to play todd hill, provided conditions are good.

00:33:07.866 --> 00:33:09.297
It's a dialed up tobacco road.

00:33:09.597 --> 00:33:24.321
It's almost unfair in some spots, but most fun courts will ever play yeah todd hill is on the list, um, and after the, the renovation to strances, original design, that's definitely on the list, um, you know.

00:33:24.321 --> 00:33:30.480
And then after, uh, after true blue, we got to play caledonia, which was his first design and is probably one.

00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.173
It is probably the best entrance to a golf course I've ever.

00:33:34.173 --> 00:33:43.970
Personally, it's definitely a magnolia lane-ish it's super magnolia, lane-ish man, you, just you, it's like.

00:33:43.970 --> 00:33:56.224
It's like probably like a quarter mile just canopy over the whole drive sick so sick until you go into the clubhouse and meet old.

00:33:56.556 --> 00:33:57.259
What was his name?

00:33:57.259 --> 00:34:01.021
I don't even remember anyway.

00:34:01.061 --> 00:34:06.855
So we showed up you showed up at like we just finished True Blue, we didn't eat anything.

00:34:06.855 --> 00:34:17.083
We get over to caledonia and uh, he's like, uh, you know, and the replay, the, the rates were fantastic, shout out the rates, um.

00:34:17.083 --> 00:34:19.170
But he's like you guys want to play 9 or 18.

00:34:19.170 --> 00:34:21.436
And uh, we're like 18.

00:34:21.436 --> 00:34:31.423
He's like, oh well, uh, yeah, I don't know like he's like I don't know what he's trying to do, right, but it sounded like he wanted us to play nine and we're like, well, we want to play 18.

00:34:31.423 --> 00:34:37.284
It was one o'clock, sun goes down at like 5, 30, almost six, yeah, yeah, close to six.

00:34:37.284 --> 00:34:39.869
And uh, we're like we want to play 18.

00:34:39.869 --> 00:34:48.628
And then he's like, well, you know, I mean, because I mean it was just so weird, he didn't want us to be there for 18 holes.

00:34:49.250 --> 00:34:50.719
Yeah, I think he was.

00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.903
Honestly, I think he was just wanting us to play nine so they could shut down early because it was a little chilly.

00:34:54.903 --> 00:35:04.282
But we were already, the sun was out and the wind had picked up a little bit that second half back, the second 18 for us, so the wind got a little chilly.

00:35:04.282 --> 00:35:12.494
But yeah, he was like, he was totally like uh yeah, he was like it's fast, he doesn't get off the course that better for us all yeah, it's like well.

00:35:14.458 --> 00:35:18.668
He literally said well, it's cold outside, like he was trying to talk us out of playing 18.

00:35:18.668 --> 00:35:21.679
It was so weird, um, but we were.

00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:28.121
I was like, and I was like can we just pay for 18 and if we don't finish, we'll just come off when it's time?

00:35:28.121 --> 00:35:30.382
He's like well, then we got to send someone out there to get you.

00:35:32.260 --> 00:35:33.284
It was really weird.

00:35:33.284 --> 00:35:36.943
So, but we ended up playing, we paid for 18.

00:35:36.943 --> 00:35:41.085
We played, we caught up to the group in front of us on like 13.

00:35:41.085 --> 00:35:44.983
And they let us play through and we finished by 430.

00:35:44.983 --> 00:35:50.802
And I was expecting, when we came in, he was there, I was.

00:35:50.802 --> 00:35:52.688
I was expecting him to be like, yeah, you guys, good for you guys.

00:35:52.688 --> 00:36:03.762
You know, I didn't think you guys were gonna do it, you know, but he, he was silent um but, yeah, what, what a fucking fantastic finishing hole at caledonia like that finishing hole is sick.

00:36:04.682 --> 00:36:06.346
So dope, dope.

00:36:06.346 --> 00:36:07.849
I said to Dan.

00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:12.586
I think I said could you imagine playing this during a VGN finals, this final hole?

00:36:12.586 --> 00:36:14.501
It would be so perfect.

00:36:14.501 --> 00:36:20.188
The patio right there lines up perfectly to the 18th green.

00:36:22.900 --> 00:36:30.342
And it is a fantastic finishing 18th hole and beyond the 18th hole.

00:36:30.342 --> 00:36:36.403
There are so many great holes out there and the bridges out there are incredible and the moss hanging from the trees are fantastic.

00:36:36.403 --> 00:36:42.101
The par threes are so sick and it was just for me.

00:36:42.101 --> 00:37:02.298
It was really cool being a golf architecture fan and playing Mike Strance's first golf course he ever built and, like I, I thought it was incredible and you can see you can see the fazio in it, which was kind of cool, and you can see him trying to break away from the fazio-ness of where he he understudied.

00:37:03.461 --> 00:37:11.000
I thought I thought it was great and and they make perfect sister courses they are literally two minutes from each other.

00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.485
You play true blue and they're right across.

00:37:13.485 --> 00:37:16.097
Like it took us two minutes to get to caledonia.

00:37:16.097 --> 00:37:32.043
The only, the only thing that I did not like is that the the chowder shack was closed for the season and I wanted to get some chowder because it's next to the practice green and you know during the season they have.

00:37:32.043 --> 00:37:36.780
They have a guy out there just giving you chowder when you pass by and I really wanted.

00:37:36.780 --> 00:37:37.681
I really wanted that.

00:37:37.782 --> 00:37:44.280
So that just means you gotta go back, exactly yeah I'd be happy to go back 100.

00:37:44.340 --> 00:37:47.164
I didn't get the chowder we have a rain check, so we're going to have to go back.

00:37:48.206 --> 00:37:48.447
All right.

00:37:48.447 --> 00:37:51.597
So then what happened the next day.

00:37:53.222 --> 00:37:53.864
So, yeah, we did that.

00:37:53.864 --> 00:38:00.141
We found out that most of us love really good salads, so we had another salad at Lowe's Food.

00:38:00.141 --> 00:38:01.085
Shout out Lowe's Food.

00:38:01.085 --> 00:38:13.597
Lowe's is awesome, I cut up a salad tonight and that's what I'm gonna have, trying to recreate the lowes food salad I have a salad almost every day hey, and shout out salty golfer, he's tuning in.

00:38:14.177 --> 00:38:19.900
Uh, I did have a salty golfer beer if you're in the area, and, uh, and so did dan you grab yourself a salty golfer beer.

00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:24.155
His, uh, yearly two-man tournament, right, yeah, two-man tournament.

00:38:24.155 --> 00:38:25.177
It's called the plunder.

00:38:25.177 --> 00:38:29.922
It's happening at caledonia in august, I believe.

00:38:29.922 --> 00:38:34.858
So if you're interested in going down there to play that, go hit up the salty golfer and sign up for that.

00:38:34.858 --> 00:38:39.047
It's a fantastic spot for a tournament, um, but, yeah, after that.

00:38:39.047 --> 00:38:53.619
So we hung out and then, uh, we woke up at 6 am, uh, and drove down, yeah, and then we went down to charleston muni golf course, uh, and shout out charleston muni.

00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:54.460
What a great logo.

00:38:54.460 --> 00:38:56.063
1929.

00:38:56.063 --> 00:38:58.646
Uh, reno, reno'd.

00:38:58.646 --> 00:39:02.277
I get reno'd, yeah, in 2020 by troy miller.

00:39:02.277 --> 00:39:10.264
Uh, we met up with Tyler Woods and Jameson, who has been on the podcast Blind Squirrel Golf.

00:39:10.264 --> 00:39:12.797
It was.

00:39:12.797 --> 00:39:15.563
It was true Muni, true, true Muni.

00:39:15.563 --> 00:39:17.327
100% true Muni.

00:39:17.327 --> 00:39:23.757
But the greens, the greens, tiny greens tiny greens, tiny template greens.

00:39:24.641 --> 00:39:26.365
You have no idea about these greens.

00:39:26.365 --> 00:39:33.463
These are greens, these are historic greens, they are rainer greens, they are template greens, like and it's.

00:39:33.463 --> 00:39:50.599
And what was so cool about charleston muni was, you know, like old mac is built off of template greens, or template holes as they call them, and like the redan and the maiden and you know the alps, and that's what charleston muni is.

00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:51.782
It's completely.

00:39:51.782 --> 00:39:52.887
It's basically flat.

00:39:52.887 --> 00:39:54.092
It's a flat golf course.

00:39:54.092 --> 00:39:59.534
Not many interesting t shots, uh, unless the hole turns a little bit or something like that, or if there's a tree in the way.

00:39:59.554 --> 00:40:17.922
But the greens are based on, uh, you know the, the template holes that cb mc, cb McDonald came up with and that Doak built basically Old Mac off of and took his mind to in recreating Old Mac and the Lido and all that.

00:40:17.922 --> 00:40:20.960
So every hole has a name.

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.003
It's based on the template.

00:40:22.003 --> 00:40:29.846
And we got there and I was like this is cool, but it's a Muni.

00:40:29.846 --> 00:40:32.864
And then we got on the first green which you can't even tell from the first fairway.

00:40:32.864 --> 00:40:39.047
You don't even like you see the green or you're hitting into the green and you're like, oh, it looks like a green.

00:40:39.047 --> 00:40:40.880
And then you get up there and you're like holy shit.

00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.005
Yeah, holy shit.

00:40:48.215 --> 00:40:49.199
Double plateau first green double plateau plateau.

00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:49.742
First green double plateau.

00:40:49.742 --> 00:40:50.485
First green plateau on the left side.

00:40:50.485 --> 00:40:50.987
Plateau on the back side.

00:40:50.987 --> 00:40:52.735
Everything's sloping from the left to right and then from back to front.

00:40:52.735 --> 00:40:55.179
Wow, it was, yeah, it was.

00:40:55.358 --> 00:41:01.108
Uh, it was cool yeah, oh, yeah, it's, yeah, yeah tough tea time.

00:41:01.168 --> 00:41:05.242
That's a tough tea time to get, supposedly yeah so tyler booked it for us.

00:41:05.302 --> 00:41:08.708
He he lives 10 minutes away and um we were.

00:41:08.708 --> 00:41:09.858
Uh, trey texted him.

00:41:09.858 --> 00:41:11.746
He's like uh, so we're gonna be out there.

00:41:11.746 --> 00:41:22.197
He's like well, it's nearly impossible to get two times so he was able to secure some, but um would have took more pictures of the greens and the.

00:41:22.197 --> 00:41:26.626
The camera just does does not do any justice to that place at all.

00:41:26.666 --> 00:41:29.797
Those greens are insane, like the punch bowl.

00:41:29.797 --> 00:41:34.759
Is that punch bowl green is nuts, it's literally a fucking bowl.

00:41:34.759 --> 00:41:36.625
It's crazy, yeah.

00:41:36.625 --> 00:41:54.054
And the Redan hole and the road hole and the Maiden and it's just really fucking cool, really fucking cool to play some like historic golf and understand where these template holes came from and they're like they're true template holes.

00:41:54.054 --> 00:42:04.989
They're not like reincarnations, like Doak did at Old MacDonald, like at Old MacDonald, like Doak reinterpreted them, which they're still the templates.

00:42:04.989 --> 00:42:25.748
But these are like hard cutting, cookie cutter templates, like yeah, the edges are cut, like this is a template hole and you can, you can move some stuff around, like dope did old mac, like you can soften it here, soften it there, but this is like cookie cutter template hole and it was wild great deal for locals too.

00:42:25.768 --> 00:42:26.028
We got a.

00:42:26.028 --> 00:42:28.780
We got paired up with this, uh, with this kid what was his name?

00:42:28.780 --> 00:42:29.523
Do I forget his name?

00:42:29.523 --> 00:42:32.856
Patrick, patrick, yeah, and he brought, he brought his dog out.

00:42:32.856 --> 00:42:33.175
Kevin.

00:42:33.175 --> 00:42:41.797
Kevin was awesome, um, but 25 for that course to walk, yeah, wow, 25 bucks we paid, you guys walk 82 to ride.

00:42:42.478 --> 00:42:51.909
Yeah, we paid to ride our cars have flat tires yeah yeah, but it's $25 to the locals.

00:42:51.909 --> 00:43:03.740
You don't have a lot of true budget yeah true muni it is a true muni through and through, like at 75 years running the shop good conditions, though cobwebs in every single corner.

00:43:03.740 --> 00:43:04.481
Greens were great.

00:43:04.481 --> 00:43:07.226
Fairways, dormant, firm, firm fast.

00:43:07.226 --> 00:43:10.358
Greens were great, Bunkers were great.

00:43:11.844 --> 00:43:12.244
Really good.

00:43:13.155 --> 00:43:23.608
Dormant and firm and laid grass was laying down, but, yeah, the the holes 11 through 11.

00:43:23.608 --> 00:43:25.300
12, 13, 14, 15, 16,.

00:43:25.300 --> 00:43:26.226
11 through 16 is actually well.

00:43:26.226 --> 00:43:26.507
What is that?

00:43:26.507 --> 00:43:27.894
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.

00:43:27.894 --> 00:43:30.925
11 through 16 is actually well.

00:43:30.925 --> 00:43:35.914
11 through 14 is why you go, but 11 through 16 is incredible.

00:43:35.914 --> 00:43:42.574
It's Redan, cape Road, short and then Maiden.

00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.336
Yeah, the road was cool.

00:43:46.336 --> 00:43:47.219
I like that one a lot.

00:43:47.742 --> 00:43:51.309
Yeah, redan, cape Road and Short is why you go there.

00:43:51.309 --> 00:43:55.041
I had a putt.

00:43:55.041 --> 00:44:00.545
So if you've watched, like the Friday video, uh, short, short is a template hole.

00:44:00.545 --> 00:44:02.074
It's a short par three, so basically.

00:44:02.074 --> 00:44:04.744
And then there's another template hole that's called long.

00:44:05.175 --> 00:44:15.949
That's a long par three, but the the short is a square green and it's got like basically a big thumbprint in the middle that doesn't go all the way through.

00:44:15.949 --> 00:44:16.628
So it's not like a beer, it's.

00:44:16.628 --> 00:44:17.882
It's like a like a three big thumbprint in the middle that doesn't go all the way through.

00:44:17.882 --> 00:44:21.603
So it's not like a beer ritz, it's like a three-quarter thumbprint in the middle.

00:44:21.603 --> 00:44:23.967
Basically, yeah, it looks like a toilet seat.

00:44:23.967 --> 00:44:41.621
So I was right at the bottom of the toilet seat and I was like trying, like and it breaks a shit ton and the hole was back left, so I was like trying to slingshot it around the toilet seat and it took up and I hit it too hard and it was so close to going off the back of the green.

00:44:41.621 --> 00:44:47.967
It's like it's like playing Donald Ross, like everything feeds off, you know, and Donald Ross is like turtleback.

00:44:47.967 --> 00:44:53.610
This is like it's like it just goes like plateaus.

00:44:58.914 --> 00:45:01.925
Exactly, yeah, yeah, almost every green is like raised there like three feet, three to four feet, so there's one hole.

00:45:01.925 --> 00:45:02.326
What was that?

00:45:02.326 --> 00:45:02.967
Par five, joe?

00:45:02.967 --> 00:45:04.800
It's raised like seven feet it's huge.

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:18.307
Oh yeah, yeah, that was uh, I think that was called knob, knob, knob oh yeah, that's what I like great name um, and then nine, nine, so nine.

00:45:18.307 --> 00:45:19.869
There it's a long par four.

00:45:19.869 --> 00:45:31.344
There's a bunker that's like in the middle of the fairway and we we saw it coming in and the the bunker is 30 yards short of the green yeah, 50 yards short of the green.

00:45:31.865 --> 00:45:39.090
But when you, when you hit it and you're in the fairway, you're like that's right in front of the green and so you're just trying to hit it over this bunker.

00:45:39.090 --> 00:45:43.440
And then, if you hit it over that bunker, you still got 30, 40 yards to get to the green.

00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.726
And it was so cool, like the deception, uh.

00:45:46.726 --> 00:45:49.255
And also they have short flags.

00:45:49.255 --> 00:45:55.324
The flags are like three feet tall yeah yeah so really wow.

00:45:56.005 --> 00:45:58.047
They say it like if you're not from there.

00:45:58.047 --> 00:46:02.195
It plays with your perception of like you know yeah depth.

00:46:02.195 --> 00:46:06.043
You pick up these flags and you're like this feels like a toy.

00:46:06.043 --> 00:46:06.945
It was so weird.

00:46:07.327 --> 00:46:20.409
Like you know, I just put my arm on the putting green yeah, a little taller than the flags on the putting green yeah, pretty crazy, yeah, and a fantastic logo, yeah.

00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:32.726
Then we hit the, then we hit the Charleston pub or whatever sports pub, yeah, and then we, then we did the airport shuffle and got out of Dodge, you know.

00:46:34.251 --> 00:46:34.572
Nice.

00:46:35.094 --> 00:46:38.179
Well, it sucks about the first day, but yeah you made the best of it.

00:46:38.922 --> 00:46:39.202
We did.

00:46:40.255 --> 00:46:41.860
Sometimes you have a reason to go back to.

00:46:41.860 --> 00:46:42.643
Yeah.

00:46:45.896 --> 00:46:50.043
There is a lot of golf out there to play A lot of golf.

00:46:51.474 --> 00:46:52.679
And Bulls Bay is horses.

00:46:54.222 --> 00:46:54.985
There's shit done.

00:46:54.985 --> 00:46:57.275
Bulls Bay is private strands course.

00:46:57.275 --> 00:47:04.065
It's like an in our charles yeah so it's in between charleston and paulie's island.

00:47:04.065 --> 00:47:10.610
We were in paulie's island, which is a little south of myrtle, but uh, yeah, I'm on a mission to play every strands course.

00:47:10.610 --> 00:47:16.605
So if anybody knows anybody at bulls bay, I'll come out and play it, if you can get us out there.

00:47:16.644 --> 00:47:17.206
If you're listening.

00:47:20.255 --> 00:47:29.525
I saw a video some guy posted where he had rated some of the courses in Massachusetts and he said that the Massachusetts Golf Association came out with their top 100 courses in Massachusetts.

00:47:29.525 --> 00:47:31.804
He was going down this list and I'm like.

00:47:31.804 --> 00:47:36.483
Massachusetts isn't the biggest state in the union.

00:47:36.483 --> 00:47:45.371
They have the top 100, which means there's more because some courses don't make the top 100.

00:47:45.472 --> 00:47:56.784
In massachusetts I was like good lord, but you know what's so funny about like that is like east coast golf is so different from what we have out here oh yeah, I was in boston.

00:47:56.804 --> 00:48:00.684
That course I played in boston was so different, so there is.

00:48:00.923 --> 00:48:20.969
There is massive pockets of incredible golf, incredible golf course logos and, uh, you know it's there's too much out there to play and uh, you know massachusetts is in that area, where you know it, there's Connecticut, there's Delaware, there's New York right there.

00:48:20.969 --> 00:48:30.047
Like there's so much out there that you can hit, I mean a lot of it's private, that's old money up there and there is a shit ton of golf to play.

00:48:31.855 --> 00:48:33.422
And history is incredible.

00:48:34.175 --> 00:48:36.735
Yeah, the history is so crazy.

00:48:36.735 --> 00:48:37.536
Well, where?

00:48:37.577 --> 00:48:45.789
we played was across the street from old sandwich and, oh yeah, I was like why didn't we play there?

00:48:45.789 --> 00:48:48.358
Because I didn't know anything about the area where we're going.

00:48:48.378 --> 00:49:06.340
He's like, oh, I'll find a place to go and I'm like old sandwiches across the road, dude yeah because yeah, that was like 145, this was only 35 I don't know if it's just like because I'm, because I live in vegas, or like you know, like I understand, like the west coast golf, but like the east coast golf is a whole nother animal.

00:49:06.340 --> 00:49:15.186
There was like so many hidden gems out there that we've probably never even heard of that are just tucked away in the trees behind walmart.

00:49:15.186 --> 00:49:20.219
You know, like you can't see anything there because it's all flat and it's it's behind that.

00:49:20.219 --> 00:49:23.648
If you, if you didn't know it was there, you wouldn't know it was there.

00:49:23.648 --> 00:49:30.615
You know, because it's hidden, you can't see beyond the horizon and it's there's something dope right behind those trees.

00:49:30.615 --> 00:49:37.528
So I love, uh, east coast golf and I want to play more of it.

00:49:38.635 --> 00:49:43.090
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00:50:17.775 --> 00:50:19.878
Ooh hey, did you see?

00:50:19.878 --> 00:50:29.503
Salty golfer said top hill is tobacco road on acid yeah, I saw that yeah and then joe from lofty was in the chat, that's interesting.

00:50:30.865 --> 00:50:34.376
So, joe, click on joe from lofty, make sure you're following him chapman.

00:50:34.476 --> 00:50:37.442
Rob chapman said that too, didn't he, didn't you say something about?

00:50:38.061 --> 00:50:38.583
that's just.

00:50:38.583 --> 00:51:01.836
I mean, that's crazy that's crazy, though, because tobacco road looks so more mad professory to me, and I think that might be one of the great things, though that tot hill is like it in any video or anything I've seen, it doesn't reveal too much, yeah, you know, and and any video I watched on true blue does not do true blue any justice at all.

00:51:01.836 --> 00:51:08.347
This is true drone footage or whatever, but all right.

00:51:09.769 --> 00:51:10.476
What's that music?

00:51:10.476 --> 00:51:26.822
Did you say something you created in the lab today, matt, that's feeding the duck baby, quack, quack, quack that that was doing acid earlier today I found this the on stream song.

00:51:26.862 --> 00:51:36.362
They've got some free music that you can play and I was, like some of them are just like bad, like nobody ever will ever play that on anything, and I found this little gem.

00:51:36.422 --> 00:51:40.467
I'm like sounds pretty soul gulf for me.

00:51:40.827 --> 00:51:43.130
New ringtone and it's called feeding the ducks.

00:51:44.836 --> 00:51:52.148
Quack, motherfucker, quack, quack yeah that, that it is pretty dope.

00:51:52.208 --> 00:51:54.335
I do like it I do like it, it's gonna.

00:51:54.335 --> 00:51:57.623
I think, dan, I think you're right, I'm to have to make that a ringtone Anyways.

00:51:57.623 --> 00:52:00.900
So, jeremy, you, jeremy is here.

00:52:00.900 --> 00:52:04.588
If anybody's just listening, he is actually here on the show tonight.

00:52:04.608 --> 00:52:04.871
I'm here.

00:52:05.233 --> 00:52:11.201
Yeah, you were down in Scottsdale a little family trip with with with the family.

00:52:23.635 --> 00:52:24.277
And you stopped in at new level.

00:52:24.277 --> 00:52:25.902
I did saw dock and uh well, oh, wasn't playing, wasn't really planned.

00:52:25.902 --> 00:52:28.916
Um, I did bring my clubs and I drove by so many courses and I named them all but I didn't play any of them.

00:52:28.916 --> 00:52:31.400
So I need to definitely go back.

00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:43.925
But we drove down to southern dunes because I can't believe you were there and didn't I know, I know for real and you had your clubs with you I had my clubs, but I didn't know.

00:52:43.965 --> 00:52:46.862
You didn't have anything to do drove to southern dunes and didn't play.

00:52:46.862 --> 00:52:48.847
Yeah, I had lunch.

00:52:49.068 --> 00:52:49.791
That's not like.

00:52:50.152 --> 00:52:57.034
That's like driving it's not a bad drive, it was only like he's a bit, he's a big driver guy he's a big driver driver yeah.

00:52:57.034 --> 00:52:57.961
So I didn't mind the drive, but I just wanted to show him because that only like he's a big, he's a big driver guy, he's a big driver driver, yeah.

00:52:57.961 --> 00:53:03.164
So I didn't mind the drive, but I just wanted to show him because that's like that's probably one of my favorite courses, so we had lunch.

00:53:03.164 --> 00:53:05.936
The patio there is like one of the best no, I I promise honey.

00:53:06.016 --> 00:53:11.668
Once we get over, the horse smell well yeah it's beautiful yeah, so that was, that was cool.

00:53:11.688 --> 00:53:12.476
But yes, I did.

00:53:12.476 --> 00:53:13.557
I reached out to doc.

00:53:13.557 --> 00:53:16.804
It was like 9 30 at night on Friday night.

00:53:16.804 --> 00:53:22.143
I'm like, hey, you're probably not going to be open tomorrow, but if you are, can I come by?

00:53:22.143 --> 00:53:25.842
He's like I'm not going to be there but I have a tee time I can meet you before.

00:53:25.842 --> 00:53:27.849
So he was going to go play.

00:53:27.849 --> 00:53:37.202
So he met me there early in the morning Saturday and I just wanted to check it out because I know you guys went and you said how cool the studio was and the shop and all that.

00:53:37.202 --> 00:53:53.460
And I wanted to see the new 702 irons because I sort of fell in love with them when I saw them a couple months ago, went in, hit them they're amazing in person, felt so good and got them.

00:53:55.356 --> 00:53:56.338
And just got them.

00:53:56.458 --> 00:53:57.740
It was an easy sell BNLG, BNLG, yeah.

00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:01.349
So Doc is awesome and got him so and just it was a.

00:54:01.349 --> 00:54:07.036
It was an easy sell it wasn't a bnlg, bnlg yeah, doc is awesome.

00:54:07.036 --> 00:54:09.458
That was the first time I met him in person, but oh, really yeah, doc's the man.

00:54:09.478 --> 00:54:10.259
Yeah, yeah, he knows his stuff.

00:54:10.278 --> 00:54:10.500
It was cool.

00:54:10.500 --> 00:54:10.920
What was that?

00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:11.440
Yeah, I did.

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:11.860
I did.

00:54:11.860 --> 00:54:19.349
I got a 702 cbs in the four and five and a six through wedge in the mbs.

00:54:19.349 --> 00:54:25.543
But they do have the 702 plus, which I possibly will get in, like the four, iron or something.

00:54:25.543 --> 00:54:30.983
Order another one, because it's a little bit more forgiving, but there's, all of them are really similar in size.

00:54:30.983 --> 00:54:37.063
There's no, it's not like titleist or tailor-made how you progressively get much larger.

00:54:37.063 --> 00:54:43.561
They're all so good I think you will all be impressed with them.

00:54:43.561 --> 00:54:46.916
I should get them this week, though.

00:54:46.916 --> 00:54:54.583
That's why I wanted to play Sunday, but I might have to do some indoor golf or something We'll have a golf stop session.

00:54:55.045 --> 00:54:57.978
Yeah, they're pretty sweet, though he was talking to me.

00:54:57.978 --> 00:55:04.842
I'm not the biggest nerd when it comes to equipment like specs and technology, but they're they.

00:55:04.842 --> 00:55:10.925
They're packed full of interesting things into a small little package and they were working out really well for me.

00:55:11.144 --> 00:55:13.432
so very, very one year in our clubs.

00:55:13.713 --> 00:55:16.360
Yeah, yep, and I mean the price.

00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:17.762
It's hard to beat too.

00:55:17.762 --> 00:55:20.956
So yeah, but they're doing more customization.

00:55:21.038 --> 00:55:28.695
The ferals and the you know all the extra stuff, so yeah, did you pick up any truths while you were there?

00:55:29.878 --> 00:55:39.500
um no, but I did find the ones that are spiked, which I I'm a fan of spiked and they he had a couple pairs of those which I love, so I don't think they're out yet.

00:55:39.500 --> 00:55:39.981
They've been.

00:55:40.443 --> 00:55:47.916
They were supposed to be out earlier this last year yeah and they've just kept pushing them and, pushing them and but yeah, I really like them off to send you a picture.

00:55:47.916 --> 00:55:53.106
I don't know, I'm sure you've seen them, but yeah, tons of good shoes.

00:55:53.106 --> 00:55:55.215
I didn't try any on I.

00:55:55.215 --> 00:56:02.195
It was nice to see him in person, though, because I have a really hard time choosing which ones I want because there's so many and you guys have all of mine.

00:56:02.315 --> 00:56:06.871
It's hard to see, yeah, so it was cool to see all of them and definitely gonna order.

00:56:06.871 --> 00:56:14.208
Ordered a couple already, actually, so just waiting for those spiked ones uh, so the?

00:56:17.242 --> 00:56:18.666
or did you go to Putting World or no?

00:56:19.815 --> 00:56:20.760
No, we didn't go to Putting World.

00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:22.385
It was right by where we stayed, though.

00:56:22.766 --> 00:56:22.989
Yeah.

00:56:24.597 --> 00:56:28.947
I think it's right by New Level yeah it's right around the corner, it's just down the street, yeah.

00:56:29.795 --> 00:56:32.184
Yeah, we didn't go there, but good food.

00:56:32.394 --> 00:56:33.717
Did you hit that In-N-Out right there?

00:56:35.181 --> 00:56:35.902
No, yes, we did.

00:56:35.902 --> 00:56:38.989
Yes, it's great right, it's the best.

00:56:39.416 --> 00:56:42.985
That's like the best in and out I've ever been to but it was so busy.

00:56:43.936 --> 00:56:44.719
I mean they're all busy.

00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:49.429
It took like 45 minutes, 45 minutes.

00:56:50.594 --> 00:56:52.701
Yeah, a 45-minute wait.

00:56:53.402 --> 00:56:54.246
We didn't eat in there.

00:56:54.246 --> 00:56:58.586
We went through the drive-thruru and it was not a short line.

00:56:59.675 --> 00:57:02.320
That is the best In-N-Out I've ever ate at.

00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:06.922
They opened one up in Boise and it was like a six-hour drive-thru.

00:57:07.516 --> 00:57:08.920
It was the same in Utah when they did it.

00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.204
That's insane.

00:57:10.735 --> 00:57:12.380
It's a fucking burger people.

00:57:12.380 --> 00:57:14.146
That's insane.

00:57:14.918 --> 00:57:20.543
Even here now, every In-N and out is you're gonna be there for at least 15 minutes the one on saint rose is ridiculous.

00:57:20.945 --> 00:57:22.853
There's never not a line there, it's.

00:57:22.853 --> 00:57:23.295
It's insane.

00:57:23.335 --> 00:57:30.762
We got a lot of them, but that is the best in and out I've ever been to, so shout out, scott still I will say this because it's close in and out.

00:57:31.041 --> 00:57:32.606
That better buzz coffee.

00:57:32.606 --> 00:57:33.467
That just opened up.

00:57:33.467 --> 00:57:42.563
That's in the holy shit, that is good coffee I do want to try it, but I'm not waiting in line for coffee oh no, I I I.

00:57:42.563 --> 00:57:49.286
There was nobody in line when I went the other day oh, the hype's that down okay yeah, I mean when it first opened up you couldn't get in the parking lot.

00:57:49.286 --> 00:57:51.480
It was so, yeah, much of a line.

00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.646
But yeah, there was one car that pulled forward as I pulled in.

00:57:54.666 --> 00:57:59.860
So I thought that was a Vegas local thing, but we saw one in Scottsdale.

00:58:01.539 --> 00:58:02.364
Yes, it's from California.

00:58:03.496 --> 00:58:06.824
Oh man, I was impressed.

00:58:08.615 --> 00:58:09.440
Seven brews bro.

00:58:11.036 --> 00:58:14.318
It was really good, that's all.

00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:14.621
I got.

00:58:14.875 --> 00:58:15.538
You guys got anything else.

00:58:15.538 --> 00:58:22.181
Anything else you want to talk about, all right, I tell you this.

00:58:22.181 --> 00:58:24.557
Since nobody's got anything else, I'll just I'll blab this out.

00:58:24.557 --> 00:58:32.543
So I, I am working on something that I'm trying to I don't know formulate or try to put together.

00:58:32.543 --> 00:58:40.686
I'm going to reach out to John Sherman from sweet spot golf, because he's a golf mental coach and and see if he has any ideas on this.

00:58:40.855 --> 00:58:44.324
But because I know you guys all play golf differently.

00:58:44.324 --> 00:58:46.318
Joe with a soul, soul golf.

00:58:46.318 --> 00:58:49.963
Dan, you know you're a great player and you've played competitively.

00:58:49.963 --> 00:59:00.677
Jeremy, great player, you played, you know high school, um, and me as a, you know a scrub that is refined and and I'm a good player now and and stat junkie, mind, blah, blah.

00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:25.079
But I, I've noticed something in my life when things happen that are when streaks are involved, how much more focused you get when a streak is involved, not necessarily just with golf, I'm talking with anything like um, um, you know, when I when back going 10 years, when I was running every day, it was like I had built up this streak of running.

00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:29.460
You know I, I was 10 days in a row and it's like, oh, I'm going to go, cause I don't, I'm on a streak.

00:59:29.460 --> 00:59:31.606
I'm on a streak and it just made it easier.

00:59:31.606 --> 00:59:41.724
And as that street got bigger, the desire to not do it because you were going to end the streak became more than what you were doing.

00:59:41.724 --> 00:59:44.072
So like for me right now with alcohol.

00:59:44.072 --> 00:59:45.836
You know I'm on two years no alcohol.

00:59:45.836 --> 00:59:46.981
It's a hell of a streak.

00:59:47.382 --> 01:00:02.840
I don't have any desire to drink anymore but like the desire the desire to continue the streak is kind of taken over my desire to not drink yeah so with has that ever happened to you with golf?

01:00:02.862 --> 01:00:07.320
because I was talking about it with kenzie because she's helping me with this food nutrition thing right now.

01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:12.356
Um that you know last year I had a streak of 11 rounds in the 70s.

01:00:12.356 --> 01:00:13.398
I'd never done that before.

01:00:13.398 --> 01:00:40.070
You know, I think I had maybe back-to-back rounds in the 70s once or twice in my life, so putting together 11 in a row it was, and it changed the way I was playing golf because I was a little bit more focused on playing a little bit more of a strategic game out there and not not going for the hero shots and, you know know, playing it safe a little bit, but I was posting good scores and the streak was a part of that.

01:00:40.070 --> 01:00:49.206
So I was curious if you guys have ever had a streak any, not necessarily in golf, but anything that has really like changed you.

01:00:53.175 --> 01:01:00.099
Yeah, I mean like if I mean if I was doing like when I've done the gym, you know, and I'm like like, well, I can't miss today.

01:01:00.099 --> 01:01:01.702
I've been going every day for two weeks.

01:01:01.702 --> 01:01:15.503
Yeah, of course there's streaks, but you know, I'm on a I'm on a big streak of not caring about the golf shot and hitting the funnest shot that I can, and I'm gonna hit the funnest shot I can.

01:01:15.503 --> 01:01:19.376
So I'm on a streak of hitting the most ridiculous shot.

01:01:19.376 --> 01:01:28.981
I potentially can not pulling it off all the time, but I'm on a streak not playing the smartest shot you can, but playing the funnest shot you can.

01:01:28.981 --> 01:01:30.365
So that's a big streak.

01:01:30.425 --> 01:01:45.257
I got going on right now like when we were at charleston uni I told you I had a shot and I was like I don't know if I can get over these trees, but if I, if I just lay up over here there's that little window there and julian goes.

01:01:45.257 --> 01:01:54.916
Well, you know, it'd be cool videos if you just try and hit it under that branch, which was like five feet off the ground, and just hit a little draw stinger up there, that'd be a cool video.

01:01:54.916 --> 01:01:57.775
I was like he's like, but you probably don't want to do that.

01:01:57.775 --> 01:02:01.742
I was like, yes, I do, that's the funnest shot that we can do right now.

01:02:02.385 --> 01:02:15.521
So I did it, I pulled it off and it ended up on the green, which was super sick so I'm on a big streak on hitting the funnest shots I can and I I will continue to hit the funnest shots I can, because I'm on a streak right now.

01:02:15.521 --> 01:02:19.146
They don't always turn up, but I'll continue doing it.

01:02:22.090 --> 01:02:22.630
That's awesome.

01:02:23.536 --> 01:02:24.320
Oh God.

01:02:27.195 --> 01:02:27.900
But I do agree.

01:02:27.900 --> 01:02:32.427
If you got something going and you're working towards something, yes, you are correct.

01:02:32.427 --> 01:02:39.784
If you're going to the gym every day, every day, every day, every day, you feel worse skipping a day than you do going.

01:02:39.784 --> 01:02:44.237
So I do completely understand it and that's the thing you got to get in that groove.

01:02:44.237 --> 01:02:48.047
Once you're in that groove, you're done like, just like dan dan.

01:02:48.047 --> 01:02:52.664
Dan slipped up a couple times but you know he picked it right back up and he's streaking.

01:02:52.664 --> 01:02:56.922
Right now he's through the, through the gymnasium, into the quad.

01:02:57.463 --> 01:03:02.179
Dan is streaking all the way, yeah he's doing it he's streaking.

01:03:02.420 --> 01:03:20.617
Jeremy, you've had anything like that um, I was trying to think like several years ago, before I moved here, I, I, I sort of was committing to practicing, uh, hitting the range, hitting the, you know, short game area, and I think I was like a month or two months of every day.

01:03:20.617 --> 01:03:22.119
I spent time practicing.

01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:35.858
And you definitely know like now I don't practice very much, but when I do I can tell immediately that it's a huge benefit, and not only just making reps but just working on specific little things.

01:03:35.858 --> 01:03:45.422
But but yeah, a couple, several years ago I would practice every single day and my scores reflected it played in the state am tournament a couple years in a row.

01:03:45.422 --> 01:03:47.666
But it's hard to get back into that.

01:03:47.666 --> 01:03:59.626
But I think really it's just committing and actually doing it because it's you mean, once you start something like that just like stopping drinking, going to the gym, eating better, whatever it is is the hardest part is starting, because once you're on, the street.

01:04:00.568 --> 01:04:03.577
It's just coasting through and and building up.

01:04:03.577 --> 01:04:07.485
So yeah, probably practicing I would love.

01:04:07.905 --> 01:04:20.496
I would love to figure out what, what it is that you know, clicks in your, that that makes you think differently, because a streak is involved, you know, and is.

01:04:20.496 --> 01:04:31.686
Is anybody able to tap into that mindset not on a streak and have that positive influence on what you're doing without a streak being involved?

01:04:31.686 --> 01:04:32.547
It's, I'm, it's just.

01:04:33.315 --> 01:04:42.202
I love, I love how the mind yeah, I love how the mind works and I love how the mind works and I love how you can trick your own self, because there's no difference.

01:04:42.202 --> 01:04:45.800
It's just because something is happening.

01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.688
Your mind is in a different place.

01:04:50.297 --> 01:04:56.072
I will say Jeremy was on a very big streak and now he's on a new streak streak.

01:04:56.072 --> 01:04:56.653
And now he's on a new streak.

01:04:56.653 --> 01:05:02.646
Jeremy was on a big titleist streak for years.

01:05:02.646 --> 01:05:10.222
Now he broke that streak and now he's on a streak against a titleist, Switching balls.

01:05:10.222 --> 01:05:15.943
Switching irons, he's rediscovering his stuff.

01:05:15.943 --> 01:05:18.119
I've always had a ping bag.

01:05:18.300 --> 01:05:45.606
Yeah, I know, but you've you've had ping bag is a streak, yeah yeah, I see, but I don't think I think there's anything wrong about breaking a streak if it creates new, yeah, areas for you to learn, like jeremy's learning along this process because he broke his title of streak and he's going to figure out more about himself in the long run breaking the streak, and he'll know if he wants to go back to that streak of being Titleist.

01:05:45.606 --> 01:05:51.666
And I think that's under the clouds where you can learn as well.

01:05:51.666 --> 01:05:59.521
You know, I don't think there's nothing wrong with breaking streaks, but you learn a lot from yourself if you break a streak as well.

01:05:59.621 --> 01:06:00.505
Oh, absolutely you do.

01:06:00.625 --> 01:06:03.117
I'm just gonna leave that there leave it there.

01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:05.523
All right, streak talk over.

01:06:05.523 --> 01:06:08.469
All right, it's gonna do it for this week's show.

01:06:08.469 --> 01:06:09.277
Thank everybody.

01:06:09.277 --> 01:06:10.820
Uh, thank you all for tuning in.

01:06:10.820 --> 01:06:13.768
Um, we'll be back next week with another show.

01:06:13.768 --> 01:06:15.061
Joe, do your thing.

01:06:15.061 --> 01:06:17.333
And oh, did you look with the odds there?

01:06:17.333 --> 01:06:17.635
Do you want to?

01:06:19.818 --> 01:06:20.639
do the odds.

01:06:20.659 --> 01:06:42.559
We got the american express, the first tournament in the in the in the continental states, yeah I was, I was thinking about the sorry about the fires and how it was going to affect riviera, because I kept watching those maps with the evacuations and it's actually inside the fire zone, but it sounds like everything's.

01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:46.295
It wasn't affected at all, so hopefully it'll still happen.

01:06:46.958 --> 01:06:48.262
Much prayers to the people out there.

01:06:48.855 --> 01:06:51.463
Yeah, shout out to everybody that is dealing with some shit.

01:06:51.463 --> 01:06:54.443
I mean, you know, it's a tough go.

01:06:54.443 --> 01:06:56.641
Yeah, that is really shitty.

01:06:56.641 --> 01:06:57.242
It was awesome.

01:06:57.875 --> 01:06:59.940
Kevin Furness was like he's been posting.

01:06:59.940 --> 01:07:02.226
You know, anybody needs anything, need a place to stay.

01:07:02.226 --> 01:07:03.088
I got an extra room.

01:07:03.088 --> 01:07:04.177
You need any food.

01:07:04.177 --> 01:07:10.547
I know people, I mean it's, it's, I feel, 10-year-old boys, it's correct, it's a dopamine hit.

01:07:10.547 --> 01:07:16.887
It's awesome what you know community, how community helps in times like this.

01:07:16.887 --> 01:07:21.478
So you know community, how community helps in times like this.

01:07:21.498 --> 01:07:23.722
So it's absolutely devastating what's going on there.

01:07:23.722 --> 01:07:25.545
Yeah, crazy shit man.

01:07:25.545 --> 01:07:26.487
Odds got odds.

01:07:26.487 --> 01:07:26.646
Yeah, uh.

01:07:26.646 --> 01:07:26.887
The amex, uh.

01:07:26.887 --> 01:07:27.407
Palm springs.

01:07:27.407 --> 01:07:29.436
Sudden jm is your favorite at 12 to 1.

01:07:29.436 --> 01:07:33.681
Just thomas, 12 to 1, along with sam burns, patrick, uh, slow ass.

01:07:33.681 --> 01:07:34.161
Cantlay.

01:07:34.161 --> 01:07:34.882
14-1.

01:07:34.882 --> 01:07:36.885
Tony fina 22-1.

01:07:36.885 --> 01:07:42.416
Kurt kittayama 25-1, along with wyndham clark, max uh, gracerman.

01:07:42.416 --> 01:07:44.400
Tom kim 28-1.

01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:48.005
Davis thompson, cameron young 35-1.

01:07:48.005 --> 01:07:50.929
Siwu kim, harry, uh, siwu kim's 40-1.

01:07:50.929 --> 01:07:52.978
Harry hall at 45 to one.

01:07:52.978 --> 01:07:54.860
Shout out harry nick dunlap.

01:07:54.860 --> 01:07:55.762
45 to one is.

01:07:55.762 --> 01:07:58.568
Did nick dunlap win the?

01:07:58.728 --> 01:08:03.280
he won this one last year, yeah zal torres 55 to 1.

01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:04.501
Jj spawn 61.

01:08:04.501 --> 01:08:06.204
Jason day 60 to 1.

01:08:06.204 --> 01:08:08.726
Let's look for some.

01:08:08.726 --> 01:08:11.070
Cam davis 40, 75 to 1.

01:08:11.070 --> 01:08:12.858
Ricky fowler 90 to 1.

01:08:12.858 --> 01:08:14.402
Nick taylor 90 to 1.

01:08:14.402 --> 01:08:16.908
Doug gimm 100 to one.

01:08:16.908 --> 01:08:19.474
Go all the way down to the bottom.

01:08:19.474 --> 01:08:21.498
Is there someone you're like looking for, or what?

01:08:21.618 --> 01:08:24.444
blades brown what's kyle mendoza?

01:08:25.127 --> 01:08:26.775
oh, is he playing in this?

01:08:26.855 --> 01:08:28.998
yeah, yep, kyle's at the bottom.

01:08:28.998 --> 01:08:32.402
Uh, what is that plus?

01:08:32.402 --> 01:08:35.645
Five thousand one, five thousand one I 5,001.

01:08:35.666 --> 01:08:36.827
5,001, I think $5 on.

01:08:36.846 --> 01:08:40.270
Commandoza $5 wins 25 Gs.

01:08:40.270 --> 01:08:41.112
Let's go, Comm.

01:08:41.636 --> 01:08:44.145
All of us do that, and then we'll go to South Carolina next week.

01:08:44.145 --> 01:08:47.342
I just put it in.

01:08:48.435 --> 01:08:49.539
Let's go Commandoza.

01:08:49.539 --> 01:08:50.403
What is this?

01:08:50.403 --> 01:08:52.122
It's G186.

01:08:52.122 --> 01:08:56.422
That's the name, right here, G186.

01:09:03.175 --> 01:09:05.099
2,500 to 1 g 186, that's the name that's right here.

01:09:05.099 --> 01:09:05.859
How drunk are you?

01:09:07.023 --> 01:09:10.930
I'm not fucking kidding, dude g 186.

01:09:11.671 --> 01:09:12.632
I don't know where am I.

01:09:12.632 --> 01:09:13.274
I can't see it.

01:09:13.555 --> 01:09:18.925
Hey, it's all blurry oh there it, there it is Golfer number 186.

01:09:21.069 --> 01:09:21.569
That's wild.

01:09:22.296 --> 01:09:27.047
It's probably the alternate, because Shoffley popped out, so it's probably the alternate.

01:09:27.916 --> 01:09:29.261
That's Elon Musk's other kid.

01:09:29.261 --> 01:09:34.463
That's X42L hyphen.

01:09:36.536 --> 01:09:37.599
Let's go, kyle Mendoza.

01:09:37.658 --> 01:09:40.086
Let's go, kyle did you see blades brown on there?

01:09:40.086 --> 01:09:41.136
Did you see blades brown?

01:09:41.136 --> 01:09:41.757
Was he on there?

01:09:43.681 --> 01:09:49.337
um, there's a lot of players that are low oh, blades brown 501 17 year old.

01:09:49.337 --> 01:09:53.001
Phenom turn pro his first name's blades.

01:09:53.060 --> 01:09:59.948
Huh oh, he's elite, oh he's elite blades, brown travis, matthew calloway.

01:09:59.948 --> 01:10:06.355
Yeah, 17, good lord room for kyle.

01:10:06.376 --> 01:10:12.162
Mendoza over blades brown oh, absolutely, absolutely sorry blades is he?

01:10:12.162 --> 01:10:13.685
Oh, he did good at the.

01:10:13.725 --> 01:10:20.113
He did good on the corporate last year he was, didn't he to get week, is he?

01:10:20.113 --> 01:10:20.958
Oh, he did good at the.

01:10:20.958 --> 01:10:21.666
He did good on the corn prairie.

01:10:21.666 --> 01:10:22.614
Last year he was, didn't he To get status.

01:10:23.595 --> 01:10:27.082
He won twice or something like that, yeah.

01:10:29.167 --> 01:10:29.649
Interesting.

01:10:29.649 --> 01:10:32.640
It's always a fun one to watch.

01:10:33.095 --> 01:10:49.835
Julie and I are going to be out at Summit on Friday and then then Los prados on saturday yeah, you get to see los prados finally, yeah uh it was just for years and years and years and years ago.

01:10:49.835 --> 01:10:53.738
So of course, yeah, um, we'll be playing visiting summit what's that?

01:10:53.759 --> 01:10:55.420
Is this your first time visiting Summit?

01:10:56.780 --> 01:10:57.101
What's that?

01:10:57.721 --> 01:10:58.023
Is this your?

01:10:58.042 --> 01:10:59.104
first time visiting Summit.

01:10:59.104 --> 01:11:01.145
It'd be my first time on the property.

01:11:01.164 --> 01:11:03.146
Yeah, You're going to love the practice area.

01:11:03.146 --> 01:11:05.609
Oh, I've seen it from space.

01:11:05.689 --> 01:11:07.771
It's amazing, yeah, the range is dope.

01:11:07.771 --> 01:11:11.295
It's amazing, yeah, it is dope Looking forward to that.

01:11:11.295 --> 01:11:12.520
Hey, shout out Cliff tuning in.

01:11:18.555 --> 01:11:21.417
Hey Cliff, you need to go see True Blue, you need to go play True Blue next time you're there.

01:11:21.438 --> 01:11:22.359
You won't regret it, All right.

01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:22.960
Joe, take us home.

01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:29.448
Hey, thanks for tuning in this episode of Chasing the Daylight Podcast, number 308, which is crazy, shout out to everybody that listened last weekend.

01:11:29.448 --> 01:11:36.599
We got a bump in downloads last week, so that was awesome to see, and continue sharing the show.

01:11:36.599 --> 01:11:41.783
If you have any topics or discussions you want to post and have us talk about, send it our way.

01:11:41.783 --> 01:11:44.496
We are here and until next week.

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We will catch you later.

01:11:48.297 --> 01:11:48.757
Thank you, you.

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