July 10, 2024

283: Is the PGA Tour Losing Its Spark? Paiute Tournament Recap, New Golf Gear, and Ryder Cup Captain Keegan Bradley

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What if the PGA Tour's traditional tournaments are losing their allure? Join us on this week's episode of The Chasing Daylight as we debate the pressing need for innovation in golf to keep fans engaged. This episode kicks off with a fun jab at our friends in the Pacific Northwest for griping about mild weather while we roast under the Vegas sun. We recount our recent VGN Paiute tournament, showcasing how even tough conditions couldn't dampen our spirits. We also let you in on some exciting news— from hunting for a new producer to revealing the fresh LA Golf shafts being added to Matt's bag, and we question the relevance of the John Deere Classic sandwiched between major events.

Will revisiting iconic courses or introducing fresh venues reignite the thrill of PGA Tour events? We discuss how tournaments like the Shriners, Harbortown, and Kapalua spark our interest and the unique joy of watching competitions at courses we've played, like Torrey Pines. Yet, the need for new, captivating courses to maintain viewer enthusiasm is glaring. We delve into how innovative broadcasting and course rotations like LIV Golf could rejuvenate the PGA Tour. We weigh in on Tom Coyne's intriguing foray into golf course design with Craig & Coyne and what this could mean for future play.

Finally, a big shout-out to our Paiute tournament champs: Aaron Pusey, Alessandro Giampaolo, Rhett Michelson, and Chris Phillips! We relive some memorable moments, including an initially embarrassing shot turned positive with five birdies. As we look ahead to the Wildhorse tournament, we bring you a spirited conversation about the unexpected yet exciting appointment of Keegan Bradley as Ryder Cup captain. His humble acceptance and potential to bridge the gap between veteran players and emerging talents could signify a significant shift. Don't miss our insights on the importance of playing iconic courses like Bethpage Black and the camaraderie it fosters.

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Chapters

00:30 - Chasing Daylight Podcast Golf Recap

08:11 - PGA Tour Event Hype and Future

18:29 - PGA Tour Course Selection Impact

30:24 - PGA Tour Event Update and Schedule

37:35 - Ryder Cup Captain Selection Discussion

46:51 - Ryder Cup Captain Selection Criteria

58:27 - Jeremy is mulling about Bandon

01:07:02 - Joe loves him some Bandon

Transcript
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Thank you.

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What is up?

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Fans of the Chasing Daylight Podcast, Welcome to another episode.

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How is everybody doing this evening?

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It's hot as balls in Vegas Record temperatures.

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I think it's hilarious that our friends in the Pacific Northwest are complaining about 96 degrees.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, jp, it's more humid up there, though, for sure.

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Oh, absolutely.

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It's more humid and 96 degrees up there is a little wild, but still I mean come on.

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Come on, come on, uh-oh, let's see what say boy, these three minutes.

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Oh, I'm sorry, rob, you can see there's, there's only three of us right now.

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We're waiting for somebody and you know it happens we're hiring for a producer.

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If, if you're available, the pay is zero yeah, it's, it's, it's lucrative, lucrative internship yes internship, yes, anybody interested?

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and wants to take this on, because let me tell you, it's not easy sitting here.

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Joe's gonna find out in a couple weeks when I'm gone.

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Um, it may just be a uh, an audio version of the podcast, because what's up, jay?

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hey, I'm smart, I could figure it out.

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I'll be fine is the hat the right way this week, or no, nope it's still backwards.

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No, I'll just, I'll just keep it up here there you go.

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Nobody can see it.

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Uh, welcome to the show, jay, how you doing, I'm good.

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How are you guys?

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Uh, little, absolutely wonderful.

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A little, absolutely wonderful, a little absolutely wonderful.

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Check your mic, jeremy, maybe on your AirPods instead of your studio microphone.

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So hey, so a lot going on.

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We had our VGN tournament over the weekend out at Paiute.

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It was absolutely fantastic.

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It was hot as hell, but still, paiute never disappoints.

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It's an amazing golf course.

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It was fun playing the Wolf course out there for the first time with the VGN.

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Most legends never die Great, great conditions.

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The wind, I think, dan, I think we had the worst of the wind.

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We were hoping.

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I was hoping at least, that it was going to get nasty.

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And it didn't um, it didn't uh.

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So you know, yeah, we were a group behind you guys and yeah, I think we, I think we faced the brunt of it you know, I think, yeah, I think, when we were on six, seven, eight and nine, it was the nastiest and I know a lot of people weren't on the course then yeah and uh, because I mean I know nine was, it was stiff in our face yeah, us too.

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Yeah, that's.

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That's a long hole into the wind, so yeah because I hit this was I hit the same two shots that I hit, uh, thursday for the practice round that I had out there and I was pin high with my 5-wood and I was short with it and yeah, it was, it was brazy, but then it died and it was just hot.

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You pay in bean and cheese burritos.

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One per week, one per week allotment, for sure Gotcha, the price has gone way up, too high.

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So something else we'll be chatting about.

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Keegan bradley was announced as rider cup captain for next year, so curious to hear anybody's thoughts if they want to chime in on that.

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Um, I've got my final two shafts from la golf coming to complete my bag from putter through driver.

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Um, that'll be for the three-wood and 5-wood Bandon man.

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We're close, it's close.

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Yep, we're close the John Deere.

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Is this a tournament we need to even have anymore?

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It's getting to a point it's had more first-time winners than any other tournament.

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You know, a lot of the live fanboys and robots say, uh, it's a horrible product, it's a glorified cornberry event.

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Um, yeah, I mean, say what you want about that.

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These are pga tour players.

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They've earned their spot on tour.

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Um, so, besides the amateurs that are tearing it up, um, but I'm curious, you guys think that, uh, you know, maybe a little bit not interested in the John Deere anymore.

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I think the struggle for John Deere is it's in between, like the majors and it's like, okay, we're so hyped on all these majors, and then there's this tournament that it's like we're just getting excited for the Open, you know, the British Open.

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Yeah, that's why I was glad to see the Detroit Country Club, or whatever it's called, redoing the greens and giving something for us to look forward to in that dead space between majors.

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I have a lot of guys that don't play uh guys, that don't play.

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And yeah, on an architecture tip.

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I don't know if anybody saw this or if you were tuned into it, but you guys know tom coin, right, tom coin.

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He writes for golfer's journal.

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He did the, the books on uh walking scotland and a course called america, a course called Ireland, a course called.

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You guys know Tom Coyne, right, I see Dan and Jeremy knowing.

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I don't read publications, so sorry.

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Wow, what a loser.

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I just know him from the beginning I read books.

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I read golf books.

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Tom Coyne is a huge golf fan, right, he played basically every course in Ireland.

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He wrote a book about it.

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He played many courses in America.

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He wrote books called, you know, a course called Ireland and he wrote about his experience.

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But I saw recently that he launched a golf course design company called Craig and Coin and they are building.

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They actually have like three projects in the works which I'm very excited about.

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His, his partner walked in the same footsteps as some scholars, like AW Tillinghast that, that walked it back in Ireland.

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But yeah, they bought a property.

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I'm pulling it up right now, sandy Hills.

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I can't remember exactly where it is, I think it's Nebraska, but they got a cool piece of property with like a snake river in between.

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But really, really cool to see Tom Coyne partnering with Colton Craig to to start a design firm and I'm I'm really curious to see what they, what they build, because he's played everywhere, everywhere, so that's going to be cool.

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Something to look forward to.

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Joe, if you didn't have a family to take care of, would you be an intern with like a golf architect?

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Yeah, I mean if I, if I could have my same situation right now, but if I started earlier in the game of golf, I would have loved to just be in like a bulldozer and like shaping greens.

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I, I think I missed my calling, unfortunately, you know shape shaping greens.

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I like that, you know in greens and spinning lps yeah, I know I, I mean I wish I found it earlier, but like a lot of us, we do not find it as earlier, as early as we hope, but, uh, glad I found it.

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You know, um, it would have been cool to if my dad bought those clubs for me back in the day and, uh, I was I started, I kept with it back then.

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But yeah, I love it rob's got a good question here.

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Honest question, he says outside of the majors and the players and the waste management, maybe the tour championship?

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What pga tour events do you actually get hyped up for?

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Well, shriners, because it's here.

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Yeah, um, let's see Harbortown.

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I love watching Harbortown.

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Harbortown.

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I love Kapalua.

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I love watching that one because I played it.

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Uh, torrey Pines, um, I like the Palm Springs stuff because it's a, it's a shootout.

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It's like the first event that everybody's at.

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Uh, see, I love the.

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The Florida swing is good.

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Um, I mean, it's tough to get hyped up.

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You know, majors kind of bring it all but, uh, I don't know, there there's some that I I think at this point in the season with so much going on, uh, you know, you just had the nhl just wrapped up, the nba just wrapped up, wimbledon's going on, f1 just had a huge race.

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Um, you just had the NHL just wrapped up, the NBA just wrapped up, wimbledon's going on.

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F1 just had a huge race.

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You know, the Euro is going on, copa Cup's going on.

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I mean there's a lot of sporting events going on in the world right now and you know, a mediocre field at a track that isn't like on anybody's bucket list that I know of, um, I don't think it's going to resonate big with.

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I would love to see what the viewership was this this week, because you know tons of comments I got from you know who, who are these guys?

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What about you guys?

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I don't think there's anything I get really hyped up on anymore other than the majors.

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Um, you know it's.

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I think that the tour needs to go to new spots and show new courses and new you know, new routings or or new spots to entertain the people that have been watching for a long time, because there is too much content out there that you can watch, whether it be YouTube or live or whatever you're into to find something new.

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And you know we don't learn anything new every year, like, and I think we're in the day and age where it's like we need something new, we need to be entertained.

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Um, it's just, it's the same thing, like I don't mind the john deere, but I wasn't.

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Like, hey, I gotta tune into the john deere because I like green hats.

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You know that wasn't.

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That's not why I'm tuning into it.

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Um, I think there needs to be more curiosity and new things happening.

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Shout out Detroit Golf Club for Rocket Mortgage, like what they're doing.

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I will definitely tune in next year for that, because I want to see something new.

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And yeah.

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I don't know.

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I just you're stuck in this season, right, it's like the summer and it's it's major season and it's hard for people to stand out because there's so much going on.

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That actually does mean something and, um, I just think they need to bring it to new spots, like who cares if the course is short?

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Or like we're in the day and age where it's like people are traveling for golf and you need to bring new aspects to the game because there's been so many people that have jumped in and and bring us something new.

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I've been watching I've only been in golf for six years and I'm I loved betting on golf and watching every single shot, and I'm I'm almost tired of these like uh courses that are like, okay, it's you know, nothing too special about it, and I think there needs to be some some, some specialness to the game coming in dan what's your thoughts?

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yeah, I would agree with joe on that aspect especially.

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Uh, like with the new golf courses.

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Like I don't really get geeked up for these tournaments I get.

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I get more geeked up to see how the course is looking and how the course is playing, like especially with, like you know, like riviera, you know courses like that, courses I've played tory pines.

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I want to see those courses.

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You know I could give two shits on who wins the tournament, I just want to see those courses kick their ass.

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Yeah, so yeah, unfortunately now it's just to the point where I mean it's awesome to see these guys shoot 24, 25 under because everybody likes to see a lot of birdies, but also for a while, you know, for a bit, you want to see a true test of golf.

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And these smaller tournaments like the John Deere's and your Valspar's and your stuff like that, where these guys shoot 20 plus under, you know it, it's kind of losing its luster a little bit.

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So yeah, I totally agree with joe, if they can just find some new courses, or or these golf architects actually build like tournament worthy courses, like literally I'm going to build this course because I want to, I want this course to host the us open or I want to build this course because this course is going to host pga.

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Like I want to see tough as tracks built for these tour guys.

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But is that what happened, though with it's, not with what they're doing in?

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frisco.

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Frisco it could be.

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I mean, that's a brand new.

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It is a brand new track and it's hard as shit, but still I haven't really seen any tour guys go out there.

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I've seen a lot of the best club champ, club pros in the country playing that course and some of them do pretty well still have a feeling the tour guys would probably go out there and still somebody's going to shoot a 64, which, yeah, which you wouldn't think after me personally, after after walking that course for a few days, I wouldn't think that's possible.

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But that's what those guys do, you know they're that good.

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So, yeah, I would love to see some tougher tracks get, get in into the.

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You know, these in these, in these like fall stops and these smaller tournaments.

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But you know, we'll see.

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We'll see what happens.

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Well, that's the thing.

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The newer wave of golf architecture is not building it for golf tournaments anymore exactly, it wasn't.

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No, not at all like in the 80s when pete die was building sawgrass and you know they were building championship courses for the tour to play on them.

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And now yeah, buddy's trips weren't a thing then.

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Yeah, they're building golf courses as a destination for your homies, absolutely.

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I saw Gil Hance Caveman Design is building a new course in Florida that's going to be private, on the Citrus Cove.

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It's like 1,600 acres.

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I mean, if they kept that in mind and they put tee boxes where it could be played, I think they should do that, because there's going to be a turn where it's like we're done with this and we need to see some new stuff.

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If they keep that in mind when they're building these courses.

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And we need to have a tee box, you know, 100 yards behind this one.

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Like, if they could keep that in mind to build it that way like house, I mean land man.

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I mean we've never been out there.

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I want to get out there, but like I think a knowing king collins, like a tournament out there, would be sick.

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Or like a gilhance did build frisco and they are going to come out there for the pga championship in 26, I believe.

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But there is so many projects happening and if, if they could build it to where it is adaptable, to where championship golf could be played on it, I think there is a revolution right behind that door jeremy, what do you think you're on mute buddy.

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Okay, collect my thoughts.

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I think one of the problems and maybe it's not a problem, but you can consume golf content everywhere you look, whether it's social or YouTube, you're constantly.

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If you've been searching for golf or if you're into golf, you're going to be completely overwhelmed with golf content.

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So maybe, and I think a lot of the new golfers and this is you know, I don't like to speak for them because I'm not a new golfer but I feel like they relate more to good, good and the newer content, golf, like the newer golf I don't think a lot of those people care about PGA tour events, especially the ones that aren't majors.

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So I mean, one idea is you could uh, shorten the season a bit or maybe have weeks between events, but they kind of already do that.

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They have the special events where they're elevated, and then they have the regular events where the smaller or the smaller named people playing them.

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So I don't know like it almost feels like there's too much golf content out there, but it's really your choice on what you consume.

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Like I'm more of a watch golf on tv person because that's how I've been my whole life.

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I don't care about the social media, golf as much I don't.

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I don't really follow or or pay attention to any of that unless I'm looking for it, like to get banned and inside info yeah so I don't know.

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There's tons of golf out there.

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It's just maybe different demographics are interested in pockets of it yeah, and it could just be the day and age where it's like we are, we're golfers, right, and that's what we look for, and we're just like completely absorbed with everything that's out there.

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And maybe we are just inundated with too much content nowadays, because that's the way the world is nowadays, and we're not as excited to see davis thompson play in the john deere, you know, um, because I go on youtube every day and there is for sure at least one golf video that is presented to me on my home page, you know, along with a lot of kendrick lamar videos and a lot of people shitting on drake videos, um, but you know, there's brown videos and there's.

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There's so much out there, there's so much out there to where you don't have to watch golf on tv anymore.

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If you want to consume golf, you can consume in other ways ie, instagram, youtube.

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However, I'd like to see them go.

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Okay, this is the field you had.

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This is their world ranking points.

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This is your TV ratings.

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You finished last.

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So we're going to go somewhere else and we're going to give somebody else an opportunity.

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And you know, have have some.

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Uh, you know, regulation where?

00:18:49.265 --> 00:18:51.489
uh you know a tournament.

00:18:51.489 --> 00:18:53.291
Hey, you had your shot.

00:18:53.291 --> 00:18:54.394
You know it's.

00:18:54.394 --> 00:18:56.943
Yeah, you've been there's a staple.

00:18:56.943 --> 00:19:01.153
It's been around for 30 plus years but nobody gives a shit about this.

00:19:01.153 --> 00:19:06.388
Why are we continuing to do it when there's places people would give a shit to watch?

00:19:06.388 --> 00:19:09.173
Yeah, I mean, that's the bad.

00:19:09.914 --> 00:19:13.823
The bad part about that is all of those small tournaments like the john deere.

00:19:13.823 --> 00:19:15.647
Oh, that's historical.

00:19:15.647 --> 00:19:26.119
They have historical moments in that tournament, like spieth winning his first event there in dramatic fashion or every single one of those tournaments have how long do you hold on?

00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:31.355
To several examples, nobody cares yeah, I mean probably.

00:19:31.375 --> 00:19:39.971
It's a tough thing yeah, nobody's around that remembers prohibition anymore, really, so it's like you know what I mean.

00:19:39.971 --> 00:19:44.688
It's true, yeah, do you remember Prohibition?

00:19:44.688 --> 00:19:53.060
You reach for some shit so far.

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Sometimes it's hilarious, I'm just saying, and it depends on what the PGA Tour values represents.

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They value TV time because that's all.

00:20:03.066 --> 00:20:07.347
The money is made from ads, so they want viewership.

00:20:07.769 --> 00:20:10.309
So the PGA Tour does not give a shit about legacy.

00:20:10.309 --> 00:20:12.030
They do not care about legacy.

00:20:12.030 --> 00:20:14.551
They care about Rolex paying for ad time.

00:20:14.551 --> 00:20:25.577
So if they want viewers, they need to highlight courses that people want to go play, and I think the switch is going to come at some point.

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I don't.

00:20:28.820 --> 00:20:38.021
I agree with that and I think that they should move in that direction, but I think there's a lot of golfers that don't care about seeing different courses.

00:20:38.021 --> 00:20:39.528
I don't know.

00:20:41.780 --> 00:20:46.492
And there's a lot of golfers that don't care about Spieth winning at John Deere for the first time either.

00:20:46.492 --> 00:20:47.885
It's true, it's true.

00:20:49.140 --> 00:20:54.472
But I mean, I don't know if that would improve things like going to Landman.

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That's just an example, but I feel like there's a specific type of golfer that is wanting to feel that experience through watching a tour event at a course like that, not the masses of just people that are just no I know it's our small little click yeah but it's also, there is an older demographic of golf fans that are leaving.

00:21:24.412 --> 00:21:30.763
I will say it like that people are dying, we get it yeah, it's gonna have to change at some point.

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It's going to.

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If the pj tour wants to be adaptable to the current states of the industry, they're going to have to adapt at some point.

00:21:40.645 --> 00:21:50.487
I'm not saying that like they need to go play landman or broom sedge or wherever the wherever it is for me to be a fan or a viewer.

00:21:50.487 --> 00:22:10.188
What I'm saying is, at some point there's going to be a turning point where they're going to have to change, and I don't know when that is, but it's going to happen at some point and it's going to have to happen at some point well, it's, it's when the sponsors are going we're not getting back what we're putting in for this.

00:22:10.990 --> 00:22:17.330
You know it's, it's when fedex is gonna go, dude, we've been giving you guys a shit ton of money and we're not getting anything out of this.

00:22:17.330 --> 00:22:20.945
And you know, same thing happened with nascar.

00:22:20.945 --> 00:22:28.166
I mean, how many sponsors has nascar had in the in the past 15, 20 years when nascar was going crazy?

00:22:28.166 --> 00:22:31.378
It was the next hell cup and then the sprint cup and then the.

00:22:31.378 --> 00:22:32.141
You know it used to be the.

00:22:32.141 --> 00:22:36.291
It was the winston cup forever, you know, but that was cigarettes and that's bad.

00:22:36.291 --> 00:22:44.747
So now you know, and it's I don't even know what it's called now, but, um, yeah, it's, it's when the sponsors go okay, this isn't working for us anymore.

00:22:44.747 --> 00:22:45.709
And I mean john deere, where they host, it's.

00:22:45.709 --> 00:22:47.232
It's when the sponsors go okay, this isn't working for us anymore.

00:22:47.232 --> 00:22:48.355
And I mean John Deere, where they host.

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That, it's in their home, it's, it's.

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It means a lot to the community.

00:22:53.821 --> 00:22:55.484
Um so they're willing to pay for it.

00:22:55.484 --> 00:23:01.279
But some of these other venues that you know, it's just I don't know.

00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:05.151
I still see a lot more people going to the PGA tour events than the live events.

00:23:05.151 --> 00:23:15.325
So I don't think the the live model is is going to change anything and make the PGA tour try to do what they're doing.

00:23:15.325 --> 00:23:22.673
I just I think there's gotta be something that's got to bring in more viewers for events.

00:23:22.673 --> 00:23:24.462
I mean they're, I think they're trying.

00:23:24.462 --> 00:23:26.587
You know they've got some sick drone footage.

00:23:26.587 --> 00:23:27.830
The camera work has been great.

00:23:33.911 --> 00:23:35.836
They're doing the walk and talks, which I think are awesome.

00:23:35.836 --> 00:23:41.949
So Drop on Instagram said do you think Liv is doing that with their course rotation Rumor they might go to Chambers next year.

00:23:41.949 --> 00:23:46.705
I think that, no, that they're playing shit courses.

00:23:47.467 --> 00:23:47.968
Yeah, but.

00:23:48.048 --> 00:23:49.151
Orange County, I mean.

00:23:49.171 --> 00:23:49.590
God.

00:23:50.292 --> 00:23:50.512
Yeah.

00:23:50.512 --> 00:23:57.744
But I mean, like when they played pumpkin Ridge, I was like, oh, I would love to get to pumpkin Ridge, I would love to get to this course.

00:23:57.744 --> 00:24:12.789
It looks sick, it looks cool and Fucking Gary player shitted on chambers Bay During that and fucking Gary Player shitted on Chambers Bay during that US Open and it hasn't been highlighted since and it is a really cool venue.

00:24:12.789 --> 00:24:29.685
If they get there, I think I don't know, usa is GA shit on Chambers Bay and also Pga tour plays a lot of courses that we can't play, which also I think hurts them.

00:24:29.685 --> 00:24:36.503
You know, if, if they played courses that the public could actually play, that could help.

00:24:36.503 --> 00:24:40.231
You know, because you're like, oh, I've, I've played chambers bay.

00:24:40.231 --> 00:24:43.125
I'm gonna watch chambers bay on tv because I've played it.

00:24:43.125 --> 00:24:50.568
I've never played Quail Hollow, like, and I probably never will, but I'll watch it, I guess.

00:24:51.171 --> 00:24:59.061
But if I've played a course, it makes me more engaged to want to watch it, because I know I was short-sighted on that in that bunker.

00:24:59.061 --> 00:25:19.023
You know, at that flag or, and I think that's where it's like a relatable thing, at that flag or, and I think that's where it's like a relatable thing, you know, if you, if you can actually go play the course, like you can go to a baseball stadium for every baseball game and join as a fan and you've been there and witnessed it and seen what happens and you understand the environment.

00:25:19.023 --> 00:25:31.873
If you can go play a course, it makes it more relatable to you and I think that that could be like a situation where you know, if I can play the course, it makes me want to go play the course.

00:25:31.873 --> 00:25:38.073
But if I can't play the course, like do I care about it as much as I would if I could go play it?

00:25:41.785 --> 00:25:49.443
that's a tough pill, I I don't know because so you tell me, you're, you're telling me that oh, what am I telling you?

00:25:50.546 --> 00:25:56.984
enlighten me if there's a course that you've played, it doesn't make you more in tune to want to watch it on tv.

00:25:58.267 --> 00:26:02.582
It for sure does that that doesn't make me not want to watch the other ones.

00:26:02.582 --> 00:26:03.585
No, no play it.

00:26:04.227 --> 00:26:05.590
No, no, no, I'm not saying that.

00:26:05.590 --> 00:26:11.963
I'm saying that if you can go play the course, you want to watch it more because you've been there and experienced it.

00:26:12.144 --> 00:26:21.732
That's what I'm saying well, I'll say this if I'm going somewhere, I'm not gonna look up to see if the pga tour has played there, so I can go play that course.

00:26:21.732 --> 00:26:26.181
You know now, if it happens that, hey, we can get on that course, and that's what.

00:26:26.181 --> 00:26:26.984
Hey, okay, great.

00:26:28.520 --> 00:26:32.545
That's why everybody wants to go play TPC Scottsdale because the tour plays there.

00:26:32.545 --> 00:26:39.779
It's not even that great of a course but everybody wants to go play it because they can relate to that course if they've played it and you can go play it.

00:26:39.779 --> 00:26:54.803
I think the crowd, the whole the atmosphere, that's a little bit you're going to try and play where they play the Zurich, because that's the course out there.

00:26:54.803 --> 00:26:55.686
That tour plays.

00:26:56.320 --> 00:26:57.626
Not, really not, I mean.

00:26:57.859 --> 00:26:59.386
I think that's how a lot of people think.

00:26:59.386 --> 00:27:10.348
Though, if you can relate to the course Dan's fading, help me out guys Is it not more relatable If you can go play the course?

00:27:10.348 --> 00:27:11.880
It's more it's more relatable.

00:27:12.101 --> 00:27:12.984
But I just think it's.

00:27:12.984 --> 00:27:21.494
It's kind of a bad analogy, because you're saying that the courses that you can't play mean less to the viewership.

00:27:21.494 --> 00:27:23.567
And I don't agree with that.

00:27:24.742 --> 00:27:25.527
I'm not saying that.

00:27:25.527 --> 00:27:36.556
I'm saying that I think if you can actually go play the course or if you've played the course, it makes it more enjoyable to watch.

00:27:36.556 --> 00:27:41.332
I enjoy watching Torrey Pines now more than ever because I've played it.

00:27:41.332 --> 00:27:44.529
So I'm going to watch Torrey Pines every year because I've been there.

00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:47.074
Yeah, I feel the same way about Torrey Kapalua.

00:27:47.621 --> 00:27:58.247
I'm not watching Wells Fargo every year because I've never been to Quail Hollow, but that's why you're not watching, then you just proved my point no no, I'm not saying.

00:27:58.247 --> 00:28:00.332
I'm not saying that's not why I'm watching.

00:28:00.332 --> 00:28:03.084
I'm saying I'm I'm going to.

00:28:03.084 --> 00:28:13.189
I'm more into watching if I've been there or if I can go there whoa, whoa adam just said the live courses are better than the PGA courses.

00:28:13.368 --> 00:28:14.612
Dude you're.

00:28:14.612 --> 00:28:16.085
Adam with the hot take.

00:28:16.085 --> 00:28:17.949
Adam, you're drunk, go home.

00:28:18.635 --> 00:28:20.393
Adam's trying to get live at Cannon Gate.

00:28:20.535 --> 00:28:26.184
He's trying to get live For real the shark at gregnormancom.

00:28:26.204 --> 00:28:26.988
Go email him bro.

00:28:32.727 --> 00:28:33.188
Good lord.

00:28:33.188 --> 00:28:49.286
Hey, they're in Valderrama though that's, that's impressive, that's gonna be, that'll be see, now that I've never played there, but I want to watch that because I've played it on track man and that horse goes around a volcano.

00:28:50.287 --> 00:29:03.549
Yeah, good lord I'm just saying if, if, if the courses are accessible and you've played it, you're more likely to watch it because you've been there or can go there.

00:29:04.152 --> 00:29:10.210
Yeah, but the pga tour can't rely on joe public playing all these courses as a reason why people tune in.

00:29:10.210 --> 00:29:11.733
No, I'm not saying that.

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:12.481
I'm not saying that.

00:29:12.481 --> 00:29:14.569
I'm just saying that they need to switch it up.

00:29:14.569 --> 00:29:16.527
It's going to happen at some point.

00:29:16.527 --> 00:29:18.025
It's going to happen at some point.

00:29:18.406 --> 00:29:24.931
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00:30:22.061 --> 00:30:23.285
So back to.

00:30:23.285 --> 00:30:24.849
That was a fun debate.

00:30:24.849 --> 00:30:25.290
Thank you, joe.

00:30:25.290 --> 00:30:26.502
I like stuff like that.

00:30:26.502 --> 00:30:27.788
You're always entertaining.

00:30:27.788 --> 00:30:31.622
I want to give some love to the Paiute winners.

00:30:31.622 --> 00:30:40.048
Mr Aaron Pusey, alessandro Giampiolo, rhett Mickelson and Chris Phillips were our winners out there.

00:30:40.048 --> 00:30:44.011
Congrats to all those gents for their stellar play.

00:30:44.031 --> 00:30:45.913
I don't know, no, Alessandro.

00:30:45.913 --> 00:30:47.055
I know an AG, though.

00:30:47.275 --> 00:30:50.217
Yeah, ag photo right there, right there in the wild shirt.

00:30:50.217 --> 00:30:54.153
They're all kind of matching light blue, blue trophies, blue shirts.

00:30:54.153 --> 00:30:55.101
It's not.

00:30:55.101 --> 00:30:56.984
Uh, yeah, it's like they planned it.

00:30:56.984 --> 00:31:00.092
I was really happy with the way I played.

00:31:00.092 --> 00:31:03.385
Uh, not the first shot that was.

00:31:03.385 --> 00:31:05.070
That was a little embarrassing.

00:31:05.070 --> 00:31:06.736
It was funny, dan.

00:31:06.736 --> 00:31:08.760
Dan is last week on the show.

00:31:08.760 --> 00:31:13.810
Dan says you know, I think one thing that's changed, matt, those missed shots that you haven't.

00:31:13.810 --> 00:31:14.993
You're not having those.

00:31:14.993 --> 00:31:16.263
And so what do I do?

00:31:16.263 --> 00:31:21.131
On the first tee, cold stone topped it right into the thick of the shit.

00:31:21.131 --> 00:31:27.647
God, that was embarrassing, but but I fought back.

00:31:27.928 --> 00:31:28.509
You pulled through.

00:31:28.650 --> 00:31:34.423
I fought back, I got three birdies on the front, a couple birdies on the back five birdies in a round.

00:31:34.423 --> 00:31:36.851
I think that might be the most I've ever had in a round.

00:31:36.851 --> 00:31:40.425
I was sitting pretty at a 77.

00:31:40.425 --> 00:31:50.244
Then I just watched my name go down the leaderboard as everybody came in because a lot of people played well.

00:31:50.244 --> 00:31:59.146
A lot of people played well and you know, I think the conditions didn't get tough which allowed that to happen.

00:31:59.146 --> 00:32:03.066
But hey, you know that's what happens when you play golf Not everybody's on the course at the same time.

00:32:03.066 --> 00:32:05.084
Always Wasn't a shotgun.

00:32:05.084 --> 00:32:09.568
So we had tee times and, yeah, fell a little short.

00:32:09.568 --> 00:32:12.989
Ended up in 10th place with a 77.

00:32:12.989 --> 00:32:15.065
My best tournament round.

00:32:15.666 --> 00:32:16.509
So next tournament.

00:32:16.509 --> 00:32:19.789
Every everybody in the field is playing the hole at the same time.

00:32:19.789 --> 00:32:23.644
Same conditions for everybody.

00:32:23.663 --> 00:32:24.825
Same conditions for everybody.

00:32:24.825 --> 00:32:33.413
We're having 60 players on one t-box at uh, but uh, yeah, it was a good time.

00:32:33.413 --> 00:32:54.230
Um piute is always a great host and uh man, that bacon cheeseburger is still absolutely amazing dan had the biggest biggest salad in the, the history of salads, that thing had more protein on it, I mean good lord seriously great food out there.

00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:58.905
So if you, if you uh play around out there, stick around, get some food, because it's it's quite tasty.

00:32:58.905 --> 00:33:06.028
Um, next up we have uh wild horse, which is uh not this weekend but next.

00:33:06.028 --> 00:33:11.423
We got 60 players in the field and uh yeah that's gonna be another good one.

00:33:11.903 --> 00:33:14.310
uh, the horse is going to be a challenge for some people.

00:33:14.310 --> 00:33:15.585
I know I've got to practice around.

00:33:15.585 --> 00:33:16.965
Boyd hasn't played it yet.

00:33:16.965 --> 00:33:32.011
Me, him, daniel Gian and I can't remember who the last person is are going to play out there on Saturday morning early, and so it'll be a fun experience for Mr Boyd.

00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:36.211
I'm going to have to try and sneak out there post-Darden era.

00:33:36.211 --> 00:33:38.327
So I'm going to have to try and do that.

00:33:39.381 --> 00:33:40.109
Yeah, it's.

00:33:40.109 --> 00:33:49.865
I mean, like I said, I posted that picture you guys would know because you don't ever go on Discord, but I posted an aerial of it and the fairways are striped and you know it was looking pretty good.

00:33:53.709 --> 00:33:55.054
I'm a big fan of Wild Horse.

00:33:55.054 --> 00:33:56.583
I am a big fan of wild horse.

00:33:56.583 --> 00:33:59.689
I am a big fan of wild horse, and if you've never played it, you might get horsed.

00:33:59.689 --> 00:34:06.224
I don't know if there's a term yet for it, but you might get wrangled, angled or rodeoed.

00:34:06.224 --> 00:34:07.987
I don't know, but something might happen.

00:34:07.987 --> 00:34:11.532
By who is it germaine?

00:34:11.532 --> 00:34:26.643
Hermaine, hermaine hermaine yep, yeah, yeah, you might get egg battered and deep fried, you know what I mean.

00:34:26.682 --> 00:34:46.985
Yeah see, like joe's a local taco mexican food expert, matt's the expert after round grub after round grub are taco spots yeah, joe wouldn't eat food because he was like I'm gonna go find something somewhere else exactly which is like three robertos on the way I.

00:34:47.144 --> 00:34:49.847
I asked sean sean got uh, the tacos.

00:34:49.887 --> 00:34:54.052
And I was like Sean got the tacos and I was like how does the meat taste?

00:34:54.052 --> 00:34:54.871
Is it?

00:34:54.871 --> 00:34:56.213
How is it?

00:34:56.213 --> 00:34:57.855
Is it good?

00:34:57.855 --> 00:34:59.777
I asked him like five questions.

00:35:02.469 --> 00:35:07.851
I was like oh wait, he also said he ordered it off the kid's menu.

00:35:12.938 --> 00:35:13.480
You're muted, dan.

00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:18.746
I will say that the taco meat did not look quite right.

00:35:18.746 --> 00:35:19.208
It right, it looked off.

00:35:19.208 --> 00:35:21.298
Yeah, I wasn't quite sure what it was, and that's that was the most off-putting thing when you look at.

00:35:21.298 --> 00:35:23.572
When you looked at a taco meat, you wanted oh yeah, it's ground beef.

00:35:23.592 --> 00:35:29.045
Yeah, that's chicken, that's you know, yeah, that was kibbles and bits I was like what is that fucking hamburger helper?

00:35:29.846 --> 00:35:40.284
yeah, it was odd for tacos it looked like, uh like, waterlogged, waterlogged, chopped up beef jerky it looked like you guys remember.

00:35:40.304 --> 00:35:43.771
Yes, that is a great yes thank you.

00:35:43.851 --> 00:36:05.364
Thank you, yes, beef jerky sitting in water for 24 hours and then chopped the only thing would have been better if they had, like, some velveta slices on top of it yeah, for real, oh gosh, oh, I would have ran yeah, but no, hey, uh, the burger is amazing, so burgers are good at pie.

00:36:05.405 --> 00:36:12.545
Yeah, burgers are amazing, and the salads are good too yeah, the salads are good, it's just you know, I made for a party of four, four people.

00:36:12.684 --> 00:36:13.385
Good Lord.

00:36:13.385 --> 00:36:17.610
So, and then after Wild Horse, we got Sky Mountain.

00:36:17.610 --> 00:36:21.675
That's a travel event up to St George, utah.

00:36:21.675 --> 00:36:23.115
That's going to be a fun one.

00:36:23.115 --> 00:36:29.447
Then, after Sky Mountain is the last major of the year at Coyote Springs.

00:36:29.447 --> 00:36:36.721
Already have 53 people confirmed for that one, amazing, amazing.

00:36:36.721 --> 00:36:41.860
And uh, we'll wrap up the regular season at legacy in october after the overseed, looking forward to checking out that place.

00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:49.661
So, uh, vg and season midsummer coming to an end here, but still, you know, have quite, a, quite a bit of golf left.

00:36:50.583 --> 00:36:58.574
Um, I mean the who was it um a yeah, so uh, red, this was his second tournament.

00:36:58.574 --> 00:36:59.860
He's a new player.

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:05.271
Um it was aaron's first win, um it was alessandro's, I think.

00:37:05.271 --> 00:37:09.226
Third, and it was chris's first win, so ag going to gross shot on ag moving up the ladder.

00:37:09.246 --> 00:37:12.755
That get ag going to gross shot on AG moving up the ladder.

00:37:15.141 --> 00:37:16.184
Did that get AG going to gross?

00:37:16.184 --> 00:37:16.706
That's hilarious.

00:37:16.706 --> 00:37:20.445
Him and Trey were battling man.

00:37:20.507 --> 00:37:25.925
It was fun to watch sitting there in the clubhouse as they were coming in.

00:37:25.925 --> 00:37:29.204
Alright, so let's get to Keegan.

00:37:29.204 --> 00:37:31.110
We got that done.

00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:32.949
We got that done.

00:37:32.949 --> 00:37:34.043
We got that done.

00:37:34.043 --> 00:37:36.990
Were you surprised at this?

00:37:36.990 --> 00:37:42.724
A little yeah right, a little bit I mean it.

00:37:42.724 --> 00:37:44.485
I went wow um.

00:37:44.485 --> 00:37:48.547
But then I kind of went wow, okay, yeah, um.

00:37:48.547 --> 00:38:04.143
Don't really know if it's right, you know, if he is somebody that has it in him to do this job, I guess we'll find out.

00:38:04.143 --> 00:38:07.231
I don't think anything worse can happen.

00:38:07.251 --> 00:38:07.992
It can be worse.

00:38:09.664 --> 00:38:13.340
Yeah, I was going to say we're only looking up, so take a risk.

00:38:13.340 --> 00:38:14.610
I mean the guy's got more passion about Team we're at.

00:38:14.610 --> 00:38:15.115
You know we're only looking up, so, uh, take a risk.

00:38:15.115 --> 00:38:25.530
I mean the guys got more passion about team america than you know team america did you guys see his like uh reaction video to how he was asked?

00:38:28.469 --> 00:38:29.371
he did press conference.

00:38:29.371 --> 00:38:31.217
You didn't see that no, I just heard.

00:38:31.237 --> 00:38:33.621
He said that he didn't know anything about it until they called him and told him he was a captain.

00:38:33.621 --> 00:38:34.047
Yeah, so I saw the press conference.

00:38:34.047 --> 00:38:34.420
You didn't see that.

00:38:34.398 --> 00:38:36.056
No, I just heard he said that he didn't know anything about it until they called him and told him he was a captain.

00:38:36.056 --> 00:38:39.509
Yeah, so I saw the press conference and it was kind of like I was in complete shock.

00:38:39.509 --> 00:38:41.132
I had no idea.

00:38:41.132 --> 00:38:56.355
Uh, I didn't talk to anybody, um, and he said I I kind of at first I felt bad that some of my like idols were passed up before me and I didn't know how to take it.

00:38:56.355 --> 00:39:09.746
Um, he was kind of like he said, uh, well, it's someone said it's your time to step up, and he said you're right, it's my time to step up.

00:39:09.746 --> 00:39:11.949
But he kind of felt bad that he was.

00:39:14.094 --> 00:39:21.288
He was like, you know, the chosen one because he felt like other people deserved it more than him.

00:39:21.288 --> 00:39:25.722
So, like that made me, that made me love it, love the pic, I think I.

00:39:25.722 --> 00:39:32.786
I think he's gonna do great because he has so much passion and netflix is writing the story of the writer cup now.

00:39:32.786 --> 00:39:46.568
I think Full Swing is in full swing of content management for the Ryder Cup because it plays directly into their show last season it should be called Full Swing Ryder Cup.

00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:55.826
Yeah, but I think Keegan has a ton of passion for it, which we saw on Full Swing, and I think he will do a great job.

00:39:55.826 --> 00:40:05.992
But I love how he almost felt bad for being chosen because he felt like others were passed up before he was chosen.

00:40:07.561 --> 00:40:09.166
Were they passed up or did?

00:40:09.166 --> 00:40:09.907
They not want to do it.

00:40:09.927 --> 00:40:11.070
I don't know.

00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:12.697
Last I saw was that's the $100,000 question yeah, I don't know.

00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:12.887
Last I saw Tiger passed it up.

00:40:12.887 --> 00:40:13.115
Tiger didn't want to do it.

00:40:13.115 --> 00:40:13.340
I don't know Last.

00:40:13.302 --> 00:40:13.972
I saw was that's the $100,000 question.

00:40:13.972 --> 00:40:14.119
Yeah, I don't know.

00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:15.626
Last I saw Tiger passed it up.

00:40:15.626 --> 00:40:16.722
Tiger didn't want to do it.

00:40:16.722 --> 00:40:18.889
According to Instagram, yeah.

00:40:18.889 --> 00:40:22.490
Whoever is the purveyor of Instagram.

00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:26.726
I could see Tiger not wanting to do it right now, though I could see that, yeah, for sure.

00:40:27.867 --> 00:40:38.277
I did see the video of Stewart Cink saying he was kind of disappointed he wasn't chosen, but he felt like Keegan will do a great job.

00:40:38.277 --> 00:40:46.608
I can see Stuart Sink being a co-captain for sure, because he is a sneaky motherfucker and he'll snatch a win right out your ass.

00:40:46.608 --> 00:40:47.371
You know what I mean.

00:40:47.371 --> 00:40:53.130
It'll kill your bet real quick if you didn't bet on him.

00:40:53.130 --> 00:41:06.762
That's a throwback, um, but, but yeah, I, I, I think it's a good pick and it might just be a um, a nod to the younger generation.

00:41:06.762 --> 00:41:08.746
It might be a nod to things changing.

00:41:09.106 --> 00:41:13.065
I don't know all right, jeremy, who did you want and just like who.

00:41:13.065 --> 00:41:17.302
No, no like deep thoughts about it, but just like who do you think would have been a great choice.

00:41:17.824 --> 00:41:18.425
Jordan Spieth.

00:41:22.612 --> 00:41:24.134
I don't even know, I have no idea.

00:41:24.134 --> 00:41:33.668
Dan, dan, I mean Phil, but that wouldn't have happened.

00:41:36.867 --> 00:41:37.833
You're on mute, dan, dan.

00:41:37.833 --> 00:41:43.166
Sorry, I have a cough so I've been putting the mic on mute but yeah, man I don't know, I don't know who I'd want in there.

00:41:43.166 --> 00:41:46.059
It's a tough choice.

00:41:46.059 --> 00:41:48.748
I'm okay with yeah.

00:41:48.789 --> 00:41:54.987
Freddie's going to be a perennial because how well he does with the American, with the President's Cup.

00:41:55.590 --> 00:42:03.782
Yeah, they could have gone like a Davis Love route or some shit like that too, but I think Keegan's a nice pick.

00:42:03.782 --> 00:42:12.621
I mean that guy's got fire in his belly and he literally got robbed, so maybe he's going to turn this into a little bit of a motivational thing.

00:42:12.621 --> 00:42:15.266
Like you know what, you guys didn't take me last time, when you should have.

00:42:15.266 --> 00:42:17.047
You got your ass handed to you.

00:42:17.047 --> 00:42:19.512
Now I'm going to show you how to go out there and win this fucking thing.

00:42:20.273 --> 00:42:21.134
That's how I do it.

00:42:21.134 --> 00:42:21.875
Yeah, totally, yep.

00:42:25.570 --> 00:42:25.791
Exactly.

00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.043
You think?

00:42:29.063 --> 00:42:31.465
he's going to play.

00:42:31.485 --> 00:42:33.407
I thought that he's got to get his game in form.

00:42:34.228 --> 00:42:38.211
You know Tiger was a playing captain at the president's cup.

00:42:38.211 --> 00:42:42.175
But you know it just depends on if Keegan gets his game back in shape or not.

00:42:43.277 --> 00:42:45.001
Yeah, I don't think he will.

00:42:45.021 --> 00:42:50.809
I would love to see a playing captain, Cause you know you have so many people with you to assist and help.

00:42:51.802 --> 00:42:52.927
I think that he's going to.

00:42:52.927 --> 00:42:58.284
He's going to work his ass off to try and qualify as a player.

00:42:58.284 --> 00:43:00.690
That way he can choose himself.

00:43:00.690 --> 00:43:03.054
I don't think if he's outside of the.

00:43:03.054 --> 00:43:07.329
You know the nomination not the, not the 10, he's not gonna.

00:43:07.329 --> 00:43:09.240
He's not gonna choose himself he's not gonna pick himself.

00:43:09.402 --> 00:43:10.583
No, no, no he'll.

00:43:10.623 --> 00:43:22.291
But if he's in, he will play that's how I feel like, yeah, and I think he's gonna work his ass off to try and get to there there's gonna, there's some.

00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:26.282
Uh, golf has got some amazing talent up and coming.

00:43:26.282 --> 00:43:36.039
You know, everybody talks about the good people left for live, but I mean these young kids that are coming up, I'm just unreal talent.

00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.204
The amateur, that too.

00:43:38.204 --> 00:43:39.706
He had back-to-back top 10s.

00:43:39.706 --> 00:43:40.688
That was amazing.

00:43:40.688 --> 00:43:46.086
Um, that, that 15 year old kid a couple weeks ago is just he's gonna be a stud.

00:43:46.086 --> 00:43:52.733
Um, gordon sarge, I mean there's so many up-and-comers coming, up-and-comers coming.

00:43:53.335 --> 00:43:57.041
I read that that Luke Clanton kid is the betting favorite this week.

00:43:58.427 --> 00:43:59.242
Are you serious?

00:43:59.242 --> 00:44:03.545
Is he playing in the Scottish Open?

00:44:04.923 --> 00:44:05.994
No, what's the other event?

00:44:06.235 --> 00:44:08.427
Oh, they're playing an opposite field event, aren't they?

00:44:08.427 --> 00:44:10.760
Yeah, is there two opposite?

00:44:10.860 --> 00:44:20.028
fields, I think so I could have swore that I said after his second place finish they said something like he's now the betting favorite going into this week.

00:44:20.028 --> 00:44:23.427
Wow, I just don't know for what event it was.

00:44:25.061 --> 00:44:26.226
It's got to be an opposite field.

00:44:26.226 --> 00:44:30.967
I didn't know if they did one for the Scottish, but maybe he's playing Corn Fairy.

00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.927
It's the ISCO championship.

00:44:36.927 --> 00:44:40.827
The one at Keen Trace Is that Corn Fairy.

00:44:40.827 --> 00:44:43.353
No, it's PGA Tour.

00:44:43.353 --> 00:44:47.702
July 11th or the 14th is the opposite.

00:44:47.702 --> 00:44:49.949
One of the Scottish, Scottish yeah.

00:44:52.219 --> 00:44:56.148
Yeah, since everybody's going to be there Makes sense.

00:44:56.148 --> 00:45:00.824
It was nice We'll get some late-night golf.

00:45:00.824 --> 00:45:02.230
Haven't had that in a while.

00:45:03.561 --> 00:45:04.826
Waking up at 2 am.

00:45:06.001 --> 00:45:08.329
I'm up at 5 anyway, so just miss a little bit.

00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:10.367
Maybe, I'll get up at 4.30 instead.

00:45:12.601 --> 00:45:18.994
But then we got the Open Championship the following week VGN Tournament.

00:45:18.994 --> 00:45:21.628
I'm going to Boston, philly and DC.

00:45:22.681 --> 00:45:24.708
Your cousin from Boston.

00:45:24.708 --> 00:45:27.905
Yeah it's right there.

00:45:27.905 --> 00:45:32.369
Sorry, matt, but Luke Clinton, he's plus 1,000 right now.

00:45:32.369 --> 00:45:34.061
Wow.

00:45:34.061 --> 00:45:36.684
I don't know if you can see this or not.

00:45:37.385 --> 00:45:39.248
Lucky that Wow.

00:45:40.068 --> 00:45:42.072
That's great Good for him.

00:45:43.032 --> 00:45:45.135
Is that Thor Bjornsson in second there?

00:45:45.135 --> 00:45:52.353
Yeah, that's another college kid that just came out, mm-hmm Wow.

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.949
Yeah, that's crazy, so much talent, so much talent.

00:45:57.271 --> 00:45:59.659
Uh, let's see what's uh the poll.

00:45:59.659 --> 00:46:01.483
I don't know if anybody saw that the poll result.

00:46:01.483 --> 00:46:02.407
I don't want to end the poll.

00:46:02.407 --> 00:46:04.251
Uh, 75 say yes right now.

00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:06.983
Um yes, for what?

00:46:06.983 --> 00:46:09.527
Uh, it was keegan the right choice I.

00:46:09.547 --> 00:46:12.170
I didn't make a I just I just have.

00:46:12.170 --> 00:46:15.155
Uh, you know this, go go vote in the poll.

00:46:15.155 --> 00:46:24.663
In the poll is keegan the right choice, yeah I think it'll be fine, yeah I don't know if it's the right choice, but I think it's a good choice.

00:46:24.862 --> 00:46:25.505
It's a good choice.

00:46:25.945 --> 00:46:31.885
Yeah, if he wins, or if the team wins, let me rephrase that not him, if the team wins.

00:46:31.885 --> 00:46:33.268
It was a right choice.

00:46:33.710 --> 00:46:40.108
What's funny is like if he wins, is he the captain again because he's younger.

00:46:40.108 --> 00:46:43.934
So it's like is this a new age?

00:46:43.934 --> 00:46:51.900
Are they trying to create a new age of captains, or I think I think if they win that, yeah he's gonna.

00:46:51.940 --> 00:46:54.510
He's gonna have his name in the hat again for the next one.

00:46:55.739 --> 00:46:57.527
Yeah, I like going younger.

00:46:57.527 --> 00:47:20.737
I like because he's kind of that in-between right now between the old KG guys that are playing the last couple years of their careers, the guys that have been around for 10, 15 years and the young kids, I think he can collectively resonate with all three of those groups where I don't think zach johnson did that very well no, yeah, I don't think so either.

00:47:22.284 --> 00:47:25.150
So, see, but there's some big names I need to step it up.

00:47:25.150 --> 00:47:25.932
I mean, we got a year.

00:47:25.932 --> 00:47:30.389
Got a year, yeah, yeah to get our shit all right.

00:47:30.429 --> 00:47:31.210
Best page black.

00:47:31.210 --> 00:47:32.253
It's gonna be sick.

00:47:32.253 --> 00:47:37.282
Oh, hopefully when we're in New York, because we're going to be right by there for the wedding.

00:47:37.282 --> 00:47:38.827
I hope I can get on.

00:47:38.827 --> 00:47:46.065
I'm going to have to sleep out in a fucking tent and a sleeping bag, but I'm going to try and play it when we're up there in September.

00:47:48.842 --> 00:47:49.927
Are you going to play it from the back?

00:47:49.927 --> 00:47:51.170
Tees, fuck yeah.

00:47:53.701 --> 00:47:54.844
I don't care about score.

00:47:54.844 --> 00:47:57.842
You know that I'm playing it where.

00:47:58.280 --> 00:47:59.302
Clearly based on Paiute.

00:47:59.342 --> 00:48:00.927
Yeah, I don't care.

00:48:00.927 --> 00:48:05.865
Ouch, you care about score.

00:48:07.001 --> 00:48:10.704
Well, I'm kind of on a heater right now, so it's kind of important to me right now.

00:48:10.704 --> 00:48:16.045
Yeah, because you care, I care yeah, absolutely I do.

00:48:16.987 --> 00:48:23.266
I want to care I don't think my handicap's going up quick enough, honestly that's because you don't post scores, joe.

00:48:23.327 --> 00:48:24.190
That's why it happened.

00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:30.027
I have been, yes, I have been, because I've been playing like shit all right, do I do?

00:48:30.067 --> 00:48:30.949
I need to do this right now?

00:48:30.949 --> 00:48:33.534
I looked at it the other day.

00:48:33.534 --> 00:48:40.789
It may have fallen off, but I think Chambers Bay was still on your list of scores that were counted towards your handicap.

00:48:40.980 --> 00:48:45.644
That was last July, I'm serious.

00:48:45.644 --> 00:48:50.268
It was July last year or something like that.

00:48:50.648 --> 00:48:52.996
Let's see Shout out Liv playing Chambers Bay next year let's go December 27th last year or something like that.

00:48:52.942 --> 00:48:54.576
Let's see joe keith the last shout out live playing chambers bay.

00:48:54.655 --> 00:49:00.731
Next year, let's go so december, december 27th, what is the last round on your list?

00:49:00.731 --> 00:49:30.025
So you posted that and then you have uh, four in january also katie went back to work, so I'm not playing as much golf as I used to in march, a couple in april I'm playing every other week now yeah because you know, I'm a dad and I gotta be here for my children good for you makes me happy to hear you say that, as

00:49:30.105 --> 00:49:32.347
is, as anybody asking for a tea time.

00:49:32.367 --> 00:49:36.512
It's like let me find a babysitter hey but I'm playing, I'm about to play.

00:49:36.512 --> 00:49:44.574
I'm about to play like 47 rounds between august 3rd and august 6th, so let's go yeah, I told I was telling the.

00:49:44.775 --> 00:49:45.677
Uh, I think I was telling rob.

00:49:45.677 --> 00:49:46.179
I said I'm gonna.

00:49:46.179 --> 00:49:54.007
I think I'm gonna post a 90 at every round at bandon, just not really going up there to shoot scores, just gonna go have a really good time.

00:49:54.007 --> 00:49:59.110
But I think I'm going to shoot a 90 every round just to help me out at the end of the season.

00:50:00.222 --> 00:50:08.911
See, that might be what fucks me up, because when I'm up there I'm just free and I'm just like I've been known.

00:50:08.911 --> 00:50:14.405
I've only been up there twice, but I play well up there because I'm just so, I'm happy.

00:50:14.405 --> 00:50:20.434
You know, I'm happy to be there and I'm just he's not happy with us.

00:50:22.023 --> 00:50:25.092
No, no, no, I'm no, I'm not saying that.

00:50:25.092 --> 00:50:26.956
I'm saying that I'm like free from work.

00:50:26.956 --> 00:50:37.594
You know I'm free from obligations and you know I just can just be my true like soul golfer self.

00:50:37.594 --> 00:50:52.666
You know, like I'm there to play golf and I'm just, I'm just happy to be there and I'm not worried about making a birdie, I'm not worried about, you know, making a score, I'm just, I'm just playing, I'm in, I'm, I'm, I'm in free mode, I'm in.

00:50:52.666 --> 00:50:54.150
What does Bryson call it?

00:50:54.150 --> 00:50:56.768
What's that state that he says?

00:50:56.768 --> 00:51:06.047
That's where you are, because you're there to golf, you're just there to play, you're there to scoff.

00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.565
Mute, mute, mute, mute, mute.

00:51:10.565 --> 00:51:11.628
You missed it.

00:51:11.628 --> 00:51:12.251
What'd you say?

00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:14.481
He's just living.

00:51:14.481 --> 00:51:16.628
Yeah, l-i-v he's just living.

00:51:16.788 --> 00:51:25.371
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true, yeah, man hey, we got some, uh, some nice uh, vinyl cdp stickers got done.

00:51:25.371 --> 00:51:29.682
Thank you, miles, for helping us uh, facilitate these.

00:51:29.682 --> 00:51:35.621
So, um, if you're here, if you're here in town and you want one of these, reach out, let me know.

00:51:35.621 --> 00:51:36.382
I'm not mailing these.

00:51:36.382 --> 00:51:40.902
I'm not gonna do what joe did and spend 75 and shipping for a 10 cent trinket.

00:51:40.902 --> 00:51:44.894
But, um, yeah, if you want one of these, hit me up.

00:51:44.914 --> 00:51:48.143
Bro, you can put that in an envelope and throw a stamp on it.

00:51:48.143 --> 00:51:57.882
That's 30 cents stamps are like 90 cents now serious no, they're no, they're not oh they're like 50 right yeah, it's.

00:51:57.981 --> 00:51:59.003
It's ridiculous, I know I do.

00:51:59.003 --> 00:52:00.206
I bought a book.

00:52:00.206 --> 00:52:06.340
I bought a hundred yesterday and I I can't remember how much it was, because I couldn't even tell you the last time I put a stamp on anything.

00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:11.925
I know, right I bought forever stamps in like 1999, so i'm'm, I'm set.

00:52:12.246 --> 00:52:14.829
Yeah, we did that a while ago.

00:52:14.829 --> 00:52:18.273
Just had graduation so had to send out.

00:52:18.273 --> 00:52:20.695
The graduation now meant announcements had to send out.

00:52:20.695 --> 00:52:27.320
You know the thank you letters now, so we went through all our stamps.

00:52:30.106 --> 00:52:35.541
Yeah, If you're in town, you want one of these, let me know, and if you're not in town, maybe I don't even have one yet Cause you left.

00:52:36.282 --> 00:52:36.922
You don't want to guys.

00:52:36.922 --> 00:52:37.704
I need that logo.

00:52:38.405 --> 00:52:42.190
We need that logo on a new era hat yes On a billboard.

00:52:42.851 --> 00:52:44.855
A billboard, yeah, right next to Glenn Lerner.

00:52:48.644 --> 00:52:50.146
Yeah, on the Valley high billboard.

00:52:51.208 --> 00:52:52.391
Yeah, that would be amazing.

00:52:52.391 --> 00:52:54.155
The Tiesta one, yeah.

00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:55.965
This place is overpriced.

00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.947
CDP-ranked Valley High 35th.

00:52:58.947 --> 00:53:04.106
That would be amazing.

00:53:04.106 --> 00:53:09.755
Oh Too funny.

00:53:09.755 --> 00:53:10.842
We'll have to get.

00:53:10.842 --> 00:53:13.201
Who is Donovan Donovan?

00:53:13.201 --> 00:53:15.371
Wasn't he in uh billboards?

00:53:15.371 --> 00:53:16.523
Wasn't he in signage?

00:53:16.523 --> 00:53:21.461
Um, yeah, I think so yeah, I have to reach out to him and say, hey, we need this somewhere.

00:53:22.284 --> 00:53:26.980
Yeah, that'd be amazing, so that'd be cool uh, you guys got anything else you want to chat about?

00:53:26.980 --> 00:53:28.762
Oh, I got my.

00:53:28.762 --> 00:53:32.568
Uh, my final two la gp golf shafts will be here tomorrow.

00:53:32.568 --> 00:53:37.414
That will complete my set from a driver all the way through.

00:53:37.414 --> 00:53:46.905
Putter Got the the DJ fairway woods coming for my three and my five Super excited about those.

00:53:46.905 --> 00:53:49.369
I know I'm going to be using that three with a lot at wild horse.

00:53:49.369 --> 00:53:57.119
So, yeah, looking forward to seeing what that does, and also with that five wood.

00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:07.311
I don't I have the big tax red in that and I'm just I mean it's nice but looking forward to seeing how these do so.

00:54:07.371 --> 00:54:09.096
Joe, how did you hit the three iron at all?

00:54:10.699 --> 00:54:12.461
I did a few times at a piute.

00:54:12.461 --> 00:54:16.557
Um, two times didn't work too well.

00:54:16.557 --> 00:54:18.842
Third time worked really good.

00:54:18.842 --> 00:54:21.438
So I just need more time with it.

00:54:21.438 --> 00:54:31.641
So, because it it is, it's stiffer than it, than the stamp, so I just got to feel it out a little more, figure it out.

00:54:31.641 --> 00:54:41.456
But yeah, I hit my, I hit my three iron as far as Plummer did his driver off the deck so felt good about that.

00:54:41.456 --> 00:54:41.898
Whoa.

00:54:43.130 --> 00:54:44.476
What hole did he DOD on.

00:54:46.431 --> 00:54:46.994
What was that?

00:54:46.994 --> 00:54:49.092
15 is the island right?

00:54:49.092 --> 00:54:50.333
So 13?

00:54:50.333 --> 00:54:56.284
Oh, really yeah.

00:54:56.603 --> 00:54:57.045
Why do you go?

00:54:57.045 --> 00:54:59.898
Oh well, yeah, I guess, guess I talked him into it kind of.

00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:06.163
So not his fault, but my, probably my influence.

00:55:06.202 --> 00:55:22.735
So, coach matt plumber, if you want to get financially free, hit him up oh he was talking mad shit about your skittle golf ball collection he didn't fucking know what he's talking about, bro.

00:55:23.257 --> 00:55:23.978
He didn't know.

00:55:23.978 --> 00:55:29.119
I hit a yellow, I hit a white ball in that hole the whole time.

00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:30.702
It was all white that whole time.

00:55:30.702 --> 00:55:39.722
Maybe that's why because I don't play white balls often, but yeah, he was throwing some fucking shit at the wall and did not stick.

00:55:43.634 --> 00:55:51.139
You need to stop having all these adulting obligations so you can go get some new golf balls.

00:55:53.192 --> 00:55:54.195
I know I need to go.

00:55:54.195 --> 00:55:55.619
I haven't been able to go yet.

00:55:56.369 --> 00:56:02.182
Yeah, and pay your entry fees and stop worrying about breaks and AC and all that stuff.

00:56:02.409 --> 00:56:06.061
Yeah, yeah, it's been a rough month or two.

00:56:06.891 --> 00:56:08.878
You know it's bad when Joe's playing white golf balls.

00:56:09.650 --> 00:56:12.360
Yeah, that's when you know.

00:56:13.250 --> 00:56:22.557
As soon as we start seeing vice balls, we might need to pitch in a little bit I've got a collection here of white golf balls that you can go through too, bro.

00:56:22.617 --> 00:56:23.911
They're, they're, they're in good shape.

00:56:23.990 --> 00:56:26.936
So hey, look out when I start playing logo balls.

00:56:27.018 --> 00:56:38.708
That's when it's really bad you start seeing spots behind in that thing, behind you you start playing spots for cell farm go ahead and go back a road logo.

00:56:38.728 --> 00:56:48.800
Balls I'm getting rid of yeah, that's what you're talking about, the clearance selection no, that's when it's really bad, bro, that's when it's really bad.

00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:52.119
Yeah, don't ever do that don't ever do that.

00:56:52.300 --> 00:56:59.875
I've got so many golf balls in the closet oh, that's hilarious I thought you were in that golf galaxy going yo, you got any logo balls man, you got any logo balls?

00:56:59.875 --> 00:57:00.938
Talk about that.

00:57:00.938 --> 00:57:04.217
Oh, right here, here it is.

00:57:04.217 --> 00:57:07.454
Yes, yes, yes 100%.

00:57:07.454 --> 00:57:12.016
Dan Tough Asian LA Wedge Shas for your new SM10s.

00:57:12.016 --> 00:57:15.534
Yes, they are absolutely amazing.

00:57:17.590 --> 00:57:19.396
You're going to see Matt on Q qbc soon.

00:57:19.396 --> 00:57:24.719
This is slang in latp I got that.

00:57:24.739 --> 00:57:25.099
I got my.

00:57:25.099 --> 00:57:27.826
I found my banner cleaning out the garage.

00:57:27.826 --> 00:57:37.132
Oh, I don't know if you guys saw those videos that I posted, but I I found a a seven iron, a wilson cb7 iron that had fallen behind the shelf.

00:57:37.132 --> 00:57:38.498
That that was hilarious.

00:57:38.498 --> 00:57:42.820
I found my zero stamp that I didn't even realize it was gone.

00:57:42.820 --> 00:57:44.456
That was, oh man.

00:57:44.456 --> 00:57:47.199
So no more of that happening.

00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:48.976
I've remedied that situation.

00:57:48.976 --> 00:57:53.842
The garage is set up really good right now to knock out some work.

00:57:53.842 --> 00:57:58.860
I got a seven iron shaft coming, coming for kevin forness.

00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:03.396
He's gonna throw one in one of his mirrors and, uh, give it a try.

00:58:03.396 --> 00:58:06.461
Um, so, yeah, it's.

00:58:06.461 --> 00:58:10.900
We're making better golfers here in vegas out at the garage.

00:58:10.900 --> 00:58:14.715
So, so, yeah.

00:58:14.715 --> 00:58:19.043
So yeah, hit me up for lagp, let's go all right.

00:58:19.043 --> 00:58:22.835
Anything else, joe, you got anything.

00:58:23.356 --> 00:58:31.797
Jeremy, you mulling over anything I'm rolling a little bit oh, he's all in he's mulling sounds like a seinfeld episode.

00:58:31.797 --> 00:58:32.278
Let's go.

00:58:32.498 --> 00:58:37.635
Haven't had a mulling, a mulling for a while so this this is something Joe mentioned.

00:58:37.677 --> 00:58:48.139
Of course he's the don't care about score golfer, so when you go to a place like Bandon I know everyone's so tired of hearing about Bandon, but Never.

00:58:48.139 --> 00:58:49.543
It's just exciting.

00:58:50.634 --> 00:58:55.239
If you're tired to hear about Bandon, you're not a friend of mine.

00:58:55.530 --> 00:58:56.490
You're not a fan of the show.

00:58:58.253 --> 00:59:07.246
So if you go when you cause, I haven't been to a lot of like destination experience golf trips, so, and I can, I'm kind of thinking like Trey.

00:59:07.246 --> 00:59:35.461
I'm thinking how Trey will be, and Bob, who maybe they don't necessarily play for score, but I think a lot of us maybe play for, to play our best sort of how do you balance the experience with trying to play well or can you joe, you want to go why don't you go first, dan?

00:59:36.724 --> 00:59:38.525
Yeah, this could turn into a long.

00:59:39.010 --> 00:59:51.833
Well, that's a very good question actually, jay, but I don't know, it's just one of those places that you just kind of got to soak it all in.

00:59:51.833 --> 00:59:57.266
Even if you don't play well, even if you're trying to play well, you still got to soak in where you're at.

00:59:57.266 --> 00:59:58.476
You still got to soak in the people you're trying to play well, like you still gotta soak in where you're at.

00:59:58.476 --> 01:00:06.824
You still gotta soak in the, the people you're with, the architecture, just the specialness of that place.

01:00:06.824 --> 01:00:09.896
And I know it sounds like cheesy as shit, but it's kind of true, it's true.

01:00:09.896 --> 01:00:21.557
Um, yeah, you either gotta it's almost like you gotta you kind of gotta pick one either to try to play really well at all the golf courses, or are you just going to be like you know what?

01:00:21.557 --> 01:00:33.876
This is my first time here I'm going to soak it in, I'm going to just have some fun, I'm going to be, you know, have a blast with my guys, and then maybe the second or third time I come back out here, you know, I'll worry about playing better.

01:00:37.902 --> 01:00:44.420
I don't think there's any right answer to that question, especially in particular with Bandon Dunes, just the place itself.

01:00:44.420 --> 01:00:47.599
But yeah, man, it's hard.

01:00:47.599 --> 01:01:03.342
I mean, it's just it's kind of like Joe said, you know, when he goes out there and plays like he plays his best out there, there's just, maybe there's just something about being in tune with those kind of vibes that bandit provides and uh, I don't know, I've always played pretty well there.

01:01:03.342 --> 01:01:07.596
Um, it's not, they're not difficult courses.

01:01:07.596 --> 01:01:13.065
Um, they're pretty, pretty generous as far as fairways go.

01:01:13.065 --> 01:01:15.856
Um, there's no rough.

01:01:16.677 --> 01:01:27.152
Yeah, there's no rough I mean there is some, a few spots where you can get in the trees, out at uh, out on trails, and a little bit of the gorse, bushes and stuff they have there, but that's really about it.

01:01:27.152 --> 01:01:31.891
That's really the only course you like possibly like lose a ball on the rest of them.

01:01:31.891 --> 01:01:42.275
It's just, you know, you got this expansive huge fairway and these rolling hills everywhere and just just put it out there and let it roll where it rolls.

01:01:42.275 --> 01:01:45.414
You know, because you're not going to get a shitty line in the rough, you're not.

01:01:45.414 --> 01:01:47.079
You don't really have to worry about losing your ball.

01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:55.128
So it's uh, yeah, that's a really good question, jay, but um, but uh, but yeah, that would be.

01:01:55.128 --> 01:02:00.521
I don't even know if I answered it or not, but you know, but that's what you got to do.

01:02:00.521 --> 01:02:08.764
You're either going to try to soak it in the first time and play well the next time, or you're just going to try to play your ass off and kind of forget about where you're at.

01:02:08.764 --> 01:02:10.699
So I don't know.

01:02:11.490 --> 01:02:16.762
I think what Rob said I think is correct in my view.

01:02:17.170 --> 01:02:17.992
Embrace the experience.

01:02:17.992 --> 01:02:22.240
Yep, so I've the.

01:02:22.240 --> 01:02:26.317
The first time I went I was by myself and I was just kind of soaking it all in.

01:02:26.317 --> 01:02:27.920
I really didn't care what I shot.

01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:36.893
Um, then, the other times that I've gone it's been with a solstice, so it was a lot of just screwing around, having fun checking out the place.

01:02:36.893 --> 01:02:38.155
Is that you know cause?

01:02:38.155 --> 01:02:40.081
We played Emerald Valley one time.

01:02:40.081 --> 01:02:42.231
We played uh Eugene country club.

01:02:42.231 --> 01:02:42.634
One time.

01:02:42.634 --> 01:02:44.880
Joe and I played uh diamond.

01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:46.393
What was it called Diamond?

01:02:46.434 --> 01:02:49.302
woods, diamond valley, I think, or diamond woods.

01:02:50.550 --> 01:02:52.958
Um, you know, and then played Bannock crossings one time.

01:02:52.958 --> 01:03:10.893
So, uh, outside of the solstice, it was just enjoying the time, um, and then the solstice, it was just enjoying the time, um, and then the solstice, you know you're, it's such a different experience because you're just it's, it's a marathon and you're just looking to get to that finish line, um, so the golf can be kind of a little distracting for what's going on.

01:03:10.893 --> 01:03:17.956
You don't really get to soak it all in as much as you thought you'd be able to because you know it's it's go, go, go, go go.

01:03:17.956 --> 01:03:30.003
You're not reading putts, you're walking up and just putting it and I've never, ever, putted well abandoned, ever.

01:03:32.670 --> 01:03:40.780
So I'm looking forward to playing where I can chill and kind of read the greens and try to play good golf without having the pressure of, hey, let's go, let's go, let's go.

01:03:40.780 --> 01:03:42.737
We've got to finish in three hours because we've got to get on the next course.

01:03:42.737 --> 01:03:49.661
So that's what I'm looking forward to, not really trying to go out there to shoot personal best or anything like that.

01:03:49.661 --> 01:04:04.775
Just like Rob said, embrace the moment, embrace the camaraderie that we're going to have, having, I think, seven other guys that I'm incredibly close with on this trip.

01:04:04.775 --> 01:04:07.561
They're just going to make it such a memorable experience and if good golf happens, awesome.

01:04:07.561 --> 01:04:24.851
If shitty golf happens, I'm still going to have a absolute blast because, uh, after the round the conversations are going to be incredible, hearing what the the new guys have to say about walking around the courses for the first time, afterwards hanging out, and it's just going to be incredible.

01:04:24.992 --> 01:04:33.436
So I wouldn't worry too much about your play just just do you and uh, you know you're going to hit some amazing shots you're never going to forget.

01:04:33.436 --> 01:04:36.431
You're going to hit some shots that you hope you forget right away.

01:04:38.494 --> 01:04:42.380
Yeah, and let me say something quick before, cause I want to get Joe's thoughts.

01:04:42.380 --> 01:04:51.510
So for me, when I play golf, I whether I whether you guys know or not I try to compare myself to how someone else is playing.

01:04:51.510 --> 01:05:06.355
Like, if I play with Dan a lot, I kind of know his game I sort of compare and try to play well against not against Dan, but with Dan or Trey or Bob, and I've only ever played with them in rounds where they play well and I'm trying to play well.

01:05:06.355 --> 01:05:11.851
So for this time it's not going to be about maybe playing well, it's more about the experience.

01:05:11.851 --> 01:05:18.103
So I was just thinking how how do I go there expecting to play well?

01:05:18.103 --> 01:05:21.077
You know what I mean Because, again, it's the first time.

01:05:22.550 --> 01:05:26.237
You're a good golfer, so yeah, expect to play well because you're a good golfer.

01:05:26.237 --> 01:05:31.869
It's not different, the game's still the same, it's just.

01:05:31.869 --> 01:05:37.114
The course that's out in front of you is just incredible.

01:05:37.693 --> 01:05:46.199
The course that's out in front of you is just incredible, and it's a unique experience, that one you'll be able to experience with us.

01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:54.784
You'll be able to visualize it, you'll be able to see it, you'll be able to remember it, but you're also going to be able to test your skills against Lynx Golf that you've.

01:05:54.784 --> 01:05:56.485
You know, you said you know.

01:05:56.485 --> 01:05:58.106
You said you've never played links golf right.

01:06:04.030 --> 01:06:04.230
Yeah, never.

01:06:04.230 --> 01:06:04.329
Yeah.

01:06:04.329 --> 01:06:08.717
And I it's not that I've always been driven a golfer that's driven by score, it's always been uh, do I perform to my ability?

01:06:08.717 --> 01:06:27.762
Um, and I told Joe this and he's just like, and I told him maybe I'm going up there and I'll have a life changing, like my perspective will change on golf, which maybe that's what I need, because I've always been not about the score, but whether I played well or whether I played how I feel like I should have played.

01:06:27.762 --> 01:06:29.253
So I'm trying to.

01:06:29.253 --> 01:06:30.217
You know what I mean?

01:06:30.217 --> 01:06:30.550
It's.

01:06:30.550 --> 01:06:56.882
It's a weird, it's a weird topic, but for me, I want to make sure I enjoy Bandon and not be the old Jeremy where I because I don't want to care about score, but it's always been an important thing to me because that's sort of the grade that you get at the end of how you played, sort of in a way, bob driving us there is going to scare all that out of you, so don't worry about it.

01:06:56.902 --> 01:06:57.443
Very true.

01:07:02.992 --> 01:07:04.976
Uh-oh, here we go.

01:07:04.976 --> 01:07:07.800
So I get, I understand what you're saying right, but you are.

01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:15.621
You're about to face conditions that you've never played on terrain that you've never experienced.

01:07:15.621 --> 01:07:18.226
It is very firm.

01:07:18.226 --> 01:07:20.130
The greens are not perfect.

01:07:20.130 --> 01:07:23.539
They are not, you know.

01:07:23.539 --> 01:07:26.847
They're not shadow creek greens, rolled at 14.

01:07:26.847 --> 01:07:38.981
They are bumpy and they're along the ocean's edge and you'll get a good break and a bad break and I am a firm believer that bandit will give you what you need.

01:07:38.981 --> 01:07:44.503
I've said this for a long time If you need to play well, bandon will give that to you.

01:07:44.503 --> 01:07:49.213
If you need to play bad to understand it, bandon will give that to you.

01:07:49.213 --> 01:08:00.706
So you have to understand anything that's going on in you internally, like it is a spiritual place.

01:08:00.706 --> 01:08:16.958
All the courses are very different and if you can go in without expectations and understanding it is as an experience with your friends you will come out a better person in the end.

01:08:17.711 --> 01:08:19.537
It is not about good golf.

01:08:19.537 --> 01:08:29.505
It is about playing some of the best golf without worrying about score that you ever will in your life.

01:08:29.505 --> 01:08:33.119
It's about creating moments.

01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:45.078
It's about being on the edge of the ocean and understanding the vastness beyond you to the West and understanding the closest thing to you is Hawaii.

01:08:45.078 --> 01:08:51.671
It is a walk undiscovered that you will find.

01:08:54.314 --> 01:08:59.984
It's my favorite place in the world and Matt told me my first time before going.

01:08:59.984 --> 01:09:15.658
I was worried and I was asking all these questions and I'm telling you, like Matt told me, he's like don't worry about it, you're gonna love it and nothing else will matter except the moment while you were there.

01:09:15.658 --> 01:09:17.024
You're gonna love it.

01:09:17.024 --> 01:09:19.171
Don't get too excited on the courses.

01:09:19.171 --> 01:09:33.752
Just understand that you're going with some of your closest golf homies to a place that a lot of people will never get to and a place where we had to book in fucking a year and a half ago because it's.

01:09:33.752 --> 01:09:46.681
It's a place that is it on the fucking side of oregon and you have to drive two and a half hours, where we're driving five hours, but it's not easy to get to and it is a.

01:09:46.681 --> 01:09:50.476
It is a pilgrimage and you will love it.

01:09:50.476 --> 01:09:51.859
Don't worry about your score.

01:09:51.859 --> 01:09:55.292
Don't worry about because you're you're going to face conditions like you've never played.

01:09:55.292 --> 01:10:03.805
Okay, it it's about the time spent at one of the coolest places you'll ever see.

01:10:06.230 --> 01:10:12.657
You're going to have a tougher time deciding what to get at the gift shops than on the golf course.

01:10:12.657 --> 01:10:14.472
And also if you shoot 110,.

01:10:14.493 --> 01:10:15.154
None of us are judging you.

01:10:15.154 --> 01:10:17.502
Oh, I will judge you 100% if you shoot 110.

01:10:17.502 --> 01:10:18.706
None of us are judging you.

01:10:20.136 --> 01:10:22.329
I will judge you 100% if you shoot 110.

01:10:23.494 --> 01:10:30.643
Matt might there's no way you're shooting 110 so if you shoot 110, he's not going to.

01:10:30.643 --> 01:10:31.449
That's what I'm saying.

01:10:31.449 --> 01:10:33.729
I'm saying that's where score doesn't matter.

01:10:33.729 --> 01:10:37.395
If you shoot 110, none of us are going to judge you in any way.

01:10:37.395 --> 01:10:39.983
That's what I'm saying.

01:10:39.983 --> 01:10:49.567
I'm not worried about judgment it's more of a personal hey, you're not breaking any records abandoned, so who cares?

01:10:50.469 --> 01:11:01.435
enjoy yourself while you're there, because oh I think we should find out the course records and see how many guys can go after them, because you know, with trade who knows the next time you're going to be there, who knows the next time you'll ever be there?

01:11:02.158 --> 01:11:15.416
That's my thing, like when I booked this trip a year and a half ago, I was downstairs pacing out and I started crying because I'm like, who knows, dude, seriously, seriously, it's my favorite place in the world.

01:11:15.416 --> 01:11:16.742
Like, literally, it's the favorite, my favorite place I the world.

01:11:16.742 --> 01:11:17.947
Like, literally, it's the favorite, my favorite place.

01:11:17.947 --> 01:11:18.609
I've ever been.

01:11:18.609 --> 01:11:25.743
This in yours and this could be our last trip to Bandon, because who knows what's going to happen tomorrow.

01:11:25.743 --> 01:11:28.478
Very true, seriously.

01:11:28.478 --> 01:11:31.989
So enjoy it while you're there, like that's the attitude.

01:11:32.131 --> 01:11:36.280
I'm going into Wild Horse on Saturdays could be last time I play it it's true.

01:11:36.872 --> 01:11:43.701
It's true very beautifully put Wild Horse on Saturday.

01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.023
This could be the last time I play it, it's true.

01:11:45.023 --> 01:11:45.784
It's true, very beautifully put.

01:11:45.805 --> 01:11:46.586
No, jeremy you're going to be fine.

01:11:46.586 --> 01:11:48.389
Yeah, you're going to love it, you're going to be fine.

01:11:48.912 --> 01:11:49.896
You're a golfer, you'll be fine.

01:11:49.896 --> 01:11:52.603
It's going to hit you right here.

01:11:52.603 --> 01:11:54.836
You're going to change, bro.

01:11:54.836 --> 01:11:57.355
You're going to be a different person.

01:11:57.355 --> 01:12:06.569
Yep, hey, and Scotty D.

01:12:06.569 --> 01:12:07.801
You're gonna change, bro, you're gonna be a different person.

01:12:07.801 --> 01:12:07.953
Yeah, hey, and scotty d is gonna buy it.

01:12:07.953 --> 01:12:11.274
This guy's gonna buy, buy the shack that's on wild horse number six and just live out there, and he's gonna be a greenskeeper.

01:12:11.274 --> 01:12:27.421
Oh wow, no internet connection, just rolling greens yeah, I had a I'm so excited.

01:12:27.461 --> 01:12:30.104
I'm so excited I had a conversation a couple days ago with scotty d.

01:12:30.104 --> 01:12:37.563
Uh, he's got a loop on saturday morning at pebble and then he's gonna be heading up and so he will uh be on property, uh, while we're up there.

01:12:37.563 --> 01:12:40.837
So he will be on property while we're up there, so it'll be fun to hang out with him.

01:12:40.837 --> 01:12:45.176
And yeah man, good times are coming.

01:12:45.337 --> 01:12:54.975
Good times are coming remember when we used to joke about oh, you know, ben is going to be here in 500 days.

01:12:54.975 --> 01:12:55.829
We have 500 days.

01:12:57.194 --> 01:12:57.898
And now it's what?

01:12:57.898 --> 01:13:00.920
21 days, 24 days, 24.

01:13:01.970 --> 01:13:02.773
25 today.

01:13:02.814 --> 01:13:04.219
So yeah, we're going to get 24.

01:13:06.235 --> 01:13:13.202
I ran into one of the dads at daycare today and he's like what's up, man, how you doing?

01:13:13.202 --> 01:13:17.882
I was like just counting down the days and I said 24 days, said 24 days to ban.

01:13:17.944 --> 01:13:28.489
He's like, oh, fuck you so jealous ah, there's gonna be a lot of people that are upset yeah, oh it's gonna be fantastic.

01:13:28.689 --> 01:13:30.132
Man can't wait.

01:13:30.212 --> 01:13:39.953
It's gonna be one for the books hell yeah, 80 people said on the poll that Keegan was the right choice and that poll.

01:13:39.953 --> 01:13:44.756
Thank everybody who voted in that Mucho apreciado.

01:13:44.756 --> 01:13:48.592
Yeah, 80%, yes, 20%.

01:13:48.592 --> 01:13:51.939
No, we'll find out.

01:13:51.939 --> 01:13:56.458
All right, joe, I don't know if we need to wrap it up after that.

01:13:56.458 --> 01:14:03.354
That was great, great question, jeremy.

01:14:03.354 --> 01:14:04.136
You need to come with more of these.

01:14:04.136 --> 01:14:05.418
Yeah, it's been a while, been a while.

01:14:05.418 --> 01:14:08.854
So all right, joe, wrap it up, let's get out of here yo, thanks for tuning in.

01:14:08.873 --> 01:14:13.530
Chasing daylight podcast, episode 283 correct, yep, correct.

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It's been a long time.

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