June 5, 2024

278: Dan's Michigan Trip, Joe's cost of goods rant, The VGN in Mesquite

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Can a handmade divot tool spark as much excitement as a round at Arcadia Bluffs? Find out as we kick off this episode with Dan's return from Michigan, sharing his golf exploits with Matt, Joe, and Jeremy. We recount our latest outings, including an unforgettable weekend in Mesquite, and shout out to Scott Russo and Unwritten Law for their killer intro music. Joe dives into a passionate rant about the cluttered golf apparel market, emphasizing the need for authentic connections over mere hype. We also reflect on the post-COVID boom in golf and how celebrities have influenced the sport.

Have you ever wondered if Peter Millar polos are worth the splurge compared to Sunday Swagger? We break down the quality differences, debate their value, and discuss finding top-notch gear without breaking the bank. The conversation heats up as we compare custom-fitted golf wedges to off-the-shelf options, weighing the merits of personalized fittings against mass-produced clubs. Rising golf equipment costs are on our radar, too, as we discuss how these trends impact our buying decisions and what it means for the average golfer.

Get ready for a wild ride as we recount an egg protein shake mishap on a flight that left everyone gasping for air. We also discuss Rory McIlroy's recent drama and speculate on how it might affect his game. Our adventures continue with a unique tournament called "The Duel" at the Loop of Forest Dunes, where Dan experiences the thrill of playing the course in reverse. We cover everything from Michigan's top golf courses to the newest gear, like the Canon laser rangefinder and Titleist's GT driver. Plus, we reflect on our latest VGN event at Falcon Ridge, share some fun stories, and reveal our favorite hidden gems around Las Vegas. Don't miss this jam-packed episode filled with laughter, insights, and plenty of golf chatter!

Links for this episode:
Canon Laser Rangefinder: https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/powershot-golf-digital-laser-rangefinder
The Loop at Forest Dunes: https://forestdunesgolf.com/play-the-loop
Falcon Ridge Golf Course: https://golffalcon.com/

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Chapters

00:33 - Golf Apparel and Industry Trends

08:10 - Polo vs. Golf Brand Quality Comparison

23:04 - Golf Trip Adventures and Chatter

35:50 - Michigan Golf Course Rankings and Experiences

41:23 - New Golf Equipment and Course Reviews

50:42 - Golf Course Reviews and Fun Stories

01:00:47 - Favorite Golf Courses and Travel Plans

Transcript
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Thank you.

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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast, number 278.

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Unbelievable.

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Thank you so much for tuning into this week's show.

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Dan is back in the house with us.

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He just got back from his trip to michigan with trey.

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Jeremy will be hopping in shortly.

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Joe myself, jeremy, were out at mesquite this past weekend playing some golf out there.

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All kinds of good shit to talk about.

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First, let's, you know, give a thanks to scott russo and unwritten law for letting us use that amazing harmonic intro still to this day.

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Thank you for that.

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Uh, the golf stop also want to give them some love.

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Uh, check them out.

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Indoor track man facility here in West Henderson for uh all you golf nuts that uh want to maybe, I don't know get out of the 110 degree heat that's coming in the next day or so yeah, 112 thursday holy yeah, summer is coming early.

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Oregon's gonna be great.

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Oh, dude, it's gonna be so nice to get away for that time hell, yeah, we're just gonna be beat for two months and then go put our toes in the cold ocean cannot wait.

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A cold little band and sand yeah, a little band, I keep on forgetting to bring it out.

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When, uh, joe and I were in bannon, the solstice scott, our buddy, scott scotty d uh took us.

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Uh, we went for a little drive around town and we went down to this beach and we were walking along this beach and I found a little piece of driftwood and I made it into a ball marker and I heat treated it and heat it up and it's nice and sturdy.

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I keep on forgetting to show this to you guys.

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It's pretty.

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I mean I don't know if I would like take it on a plane, because it's looks, uh, it's like a shank yeah, speaking of shanks, dan, did you put your your handmade little divot tool into play?

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I did yeah how did it work for you.

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It's a beast, it's heavy, so I might try to find some lighter hardware, but it's going to work.

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And they let you take it on the plane, or was it in your bag?

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It?

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was in my bag.

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Yeah, it was checked in my bag.

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I'm sure I'd probably be TSA checked if I tried to take it on the yeah, yeah that had made in prison, written all over it For sure for sure.

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But cool, glad it worked, hey coming soon the.

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Bogey.

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Free 62 shank tool.

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All right, fix some attitudes.

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Yeah, you got a problem with your partner.

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Just fix his divot Before we get into Michigan and all the plays that you played out there.

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Uh, joe, you've been kind of on a rant lately with dog walk talks I have.

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So what's what's going on here?

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Let me get my uh, let's get the little banner up here, not that one, this one.

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There we go, uh, and then I'm going to do the poll question.

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So go ahead, tell what's going on uh, I mean, like you know, there's a lot going on in the golf apparel industry.

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Um, I just feel like there's like too much hype in golf, right.

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I think it's overshadowing the golf itself, which I'm not a fan of because the golf itself is the memories and the moments that you create.

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And I don't know things are.

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Things are definitely a bit overpriced, I will give it to Kith on, some of their things are reasonable.

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But yeah, I just you know me doing my own t-shirts and things like that and researching cost of goods.

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Now, like I don't own a brick and mortar, I don't have employees, I don't spend money on marketing, but you know, even at my cost, I feel like you add $10 to that.

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I mean that should cover most of that, right, and there's like dollars per acquisition of a customer, right.

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So for what they're selling them, for their, their dollars per transaction must be crazy, I mean, because I don't know, it's just there's a lot going on and there's a lot of brands out there that are starting and coming into the golf world and I don't feel like, with all the comments I've read, like I don't feel like they've been accepted yet, like I feel like they flooded the market.

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Like if you introduced yourself to the market in a creative way, into a like hey, welcome us.

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Kind of way, maybe you'd be more accepted and maybe it's just the hype beasts that are all about it and it will sell out for sure.

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But like what percentage of those people that purchase?

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It?

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Are true, golfers, I don't know.

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And it's like golf is at the apex, right Like after COVID.

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Golf is the thing to do and it's you know, schoolboy Q's playing golf, jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake are playing golf Not saying that they didn't play golf before, but it's like showcase now and it's becoming a mainstream thing.

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Um, I just think that if you're going to spend money on something, I hope you like it, I hope you want it, not just because your favorite celebrity or you, you know.

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I hope you don't buy into the hype.

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You know, because I used to do that when I was younger I was, I'd buy everything that I thought was hyped and you know, hoping to resell it or like thought I'd look cool and getting older, I just feel like it's a pointless path.

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Just feel like it's a pointless path.

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Now, if you do like it and you do want it and it connects with you, then there's probably no dollar amount that I wouldn't spend, right, like, if bandon created candles, I'd probably buy a band and candle I'd buy a band in, fucking totally you know, a chef's knife.

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You know, like, if it connects with me, like I will buy anything that connects with me.

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So if it connects with you and it's something you actually want and there's a story behind it for you, by all means buy five of them.

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Would you buy a ghost tree shaped chicken nuggets?

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I think that would be fantastic.

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I would love to serve them to my children.

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Bannon is for the kids, man.

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Yeah.

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You know, I just feel like there's a lot of people out there nowadays that are just buying into the culture Like, okay, golf is cool, now let's get into it.

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Let's buy into it because it's booming.

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And if you are not a golfer and I'm not saying that some of these brands aren't golfers, I don't know them, but like there's just too much of it and it's a lot of money, so just like what you buy.

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And if there's brands out there like shout out stick and greens I know golf fathers, you know they're they're sponsored by Sunday swagger.

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Like a lot of things that are Sunday swagger don't appeal to me.

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But if Sunday swagger can sell polos at 60, $70 and they're great quality, really good quality, they are.

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How come these other brands can't do that?

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That's my thing, you know like.

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Is a peter millar polo better quality than a sunny swagger polo?

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What do you think you?

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I mean, you've worn both of them matt, you own, you know well, I don't have any peter millar polos because I'm not spending 150 bucks on a polo.

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I do have some peter millar stuff that I've won.

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You know that are not one.

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That were tea gifts from the solstice and they're the I mean they're nice, they are the best pullovers I've ever had.

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Um and I, I would totally wear one of the polos, but I I'm not going to drop that much money on a polo, but if there's another brand out there that's offering a similar quality, like I mean, it's not astronomically better agree or no?

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Astronomically, not astronomically it's better, it's just not.

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It's not.

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I wouldn't say I don't think there's anything that's astronomically better yeah, and, and that's that's just my thing, If, if there's brands out there that can do it cheaper and I don't know.

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You know it's such a deep dive into a world that I don't fully understand, so I make be completely wrong.

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But I don't like paying full price for things.

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Never have.

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If I'm going to order something, I search for a discount code before.

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If it's something I want, I'm searching for a discount code on Google.

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I'm trying eight, 10 of them on retail me not, you know if one doesn't work, then I have to come to terms.

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Do I want to spend?

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I want to pay retail on this, you know.

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So it's nothing's worse than seeing 90% verified worked and it doesn't.

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Yeah, exactly Most of the time, yeah, but there's options out there.

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There's smaller brands that you can support that might connect with you more than a bigger name.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I was really impressed with them Buy what connects with you.

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If their story connects with you, fucking spend $400 on a polo.

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If you like it and it connects with you, then get that shit I was impressed with that sunday swagger polo.

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I was, too it.

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It performed very, very well.

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I was really.

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I was crazy comfortable in it all day long, had no issues.

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Um, we'll definitely be adding some more uh to to the closet, um, and I like the fact that everybody knew where I was out there on Saturday, yeah, but like you know, it was a great deal.

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Great price point $69 with Rocky's code, 15% off.

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That you know.

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Like there's options out there.

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That's all I'm saying is like, don't just buy into the hype, because there's just as good as stuff elsewhere and you might be able to buy a bean, a couple bean and cheese burritos, instead of buying retail on something that is hyped yeah, all you people that are on instagram right now hey, miles is there thanks, miles, for hopping on.

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If you can go over to youtube.

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We're really trying to get more people over on youtube.

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The the interaction is a little bit better there, you know.

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You get little pop-ups like this where we can share what you're saying.

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And we have a poll question going on over there right now.

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Since Miles is here, cause I know Miles is a artisan Don white fan I was watching.

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I saw the pricing on the tailor-made wedges at two 75.

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Right, so for my understanding, is a set of custom wedges through Artisan fit through you as $1,000.

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And you also pay like a fitting fee For three.

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I think so.

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I think so.

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Miles might be able to correct me on that.

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But if that is the case case, why would you buy some shit that's not fit for you?

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that is you know mass produced um, or you can take a flight down to fort worth and get fitted by the old oven cats and get something that is so much cooler oven cats and get something that is so much cooler.

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Yeah, not everybody has that in their in their golf budget though.

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Yeah, but if you're buying the wedges through the drop that just came out, but there there's, there's no knowledge there and this might just be appealing to newcomers, you know and that's, they're getting them in there and maybe they'll learn as they go.

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But me, being a knowledgeable golfer, and I wanted new wedges, I wouldn't buy those.

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I would find a way to do that and get baked inside the oven, you know.

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A hundred percent.

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That's how much.

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How much are the the Kith ones?

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275.

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275.

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That's, I mean, that's not not terrible.

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Not 50 is what the mg4s are going for each right now, right, or 225, no, no way, it's got to be like 180.

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No, they're more than that, are they?

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Yeah maybe I'm out of touch jeremy mg4s.

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Look them up real quick, see what they're going for.

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On the TaylorMade site.

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I think they're $175.

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Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Yeah, $180.

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My dad just got one and he I think we were talking about it like $175, but he got a discount.

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How is TaylorMade going?

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to charge more than Vokey on a stock wedge.

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I don't know, they're pretty they've been going up in prices.

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Yeah, I mean everything's going up, yeah, $180.

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$180?

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Okay $180.

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It's the same with Bokies.

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I mean, if you want to get the custom shop Bokies, it's going to be $250.

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Yeah, if you want.

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Rots probably more than that.

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So Steven Jackson was looking at.

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You can get Wedgeworks for $250, right.

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Yeah, steven Jackson was looking at getting getting some JP wedges, and then he found out how much they are and he's not interested anymore.

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Yeah, I mean, miles is the, the niche club aficionado, so he knows what's up.

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Yeah, I remember when he showed up at legends and I'm like who's this guy with this McKenzie bag, with these scratch irons?

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Did he have national custom, or or were they scratched?

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They were scratched.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a scratch iron, yeah, and then he just went out there and put holes in piute all day long but that's the thing I think.

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I think knowledge in the game is like.

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You know, you gotta find it right, so like hankering is getting expensive.

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That's right tailor-made and kith like, and I've been a huge kith fan for a long time and I respect what ronnie feig has done.

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But as you grow deeper with knowledge into the golf world, there are so many better options so who is the kith?

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who's that for who's who is?

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Is that?

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like kith is for the hype beast, the sneaker collector, the, the, the clothing brand you know, for the kanye fan, the drake fan, like those kind of people.

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Right, that's sneaker heads.

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Kith started as a um.

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So ronnie feig is from new york.

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He worked in a stock room at david z.

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I think I bought his second collab back in the day with Asics.

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He couldn't afford, or his mom wouldn't, buy him a pair of shoes that he wanted, and she bought him Asics.

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And then he fell in love with them and he started creating all these like um collaborations with Asics through David Z, which was a shoe store in New York.

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Um, he branched out, created his own store and started doing his own like it's like a sneaker store.

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And then he, he, he got a pair of um pants that didn't fit him Right, so he took them to a tailor and he got them cut the way that he wanted.

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People would walk in the store and be like, yo, what are those?

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So he started selling those and it became a brand Um, he also does collaborate.

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He's done with coca-cola, tommy hill, figure, captain crunch, fruity pebbles, looney tunes.

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Like he also owns, like a kith, treats is an ice cream store where they infuse cereal into the ice cream and it's bomb.

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There's one in la.

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I've had it.

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It's fantastic as a cereal lover, really good shit.

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But it's a.

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It's a sneaker clothing brand, so are are?

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are they reaching, going in the golf space or?

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my, my personal opinion is is, with the boom with covid, probably like he started playing golf, and if you have the opportunity to do things like that and collab with golf brands and you love golf, you're gonna go that route like and I I just think it and he searches for collaborations with out there situations.

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So I mean he knows what he's doing right, but it's for the, it's for the consumer of sneakers and clothing and people that are in the know.

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Great brand Does great stuff.

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I've been to two of their stores.

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They have one in Japan, paris, hawaii, new York, la, been to the LA and New York one and it's really well done inside.

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It's just different and I think golf has never seen something like this with the influx of people Like my generation grew up on Jordans and grew up on Cereal and Looney Tunes and Rugrats.

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He did a Rugrats collab with his brand.

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He did a Rugrats collab with his brand.

00:17:22.522 --> 00:17:30.434
You know that's the 90s kid and he's bringing it to you know things that you couldn't have when you were a kid.

00:17:30.434 --> 00:17:35.205
So it's a nostalgic aspect.

00:17:35.205 --> 00:17:36.229
So I understand it.

00:17:36.229 --> 00:17:45.933
I get it Not for me, not my vibe anymore, but there are others out there that will connect with it and understand it.

00:17:45.953 --> 00:17:47.942
Do you think it's there's?

00:17:47.942 --> 00:17:53.473
Do you think there's a place for it, or is just because of what's been going on?

00:17:53.473 --> 00:17:56.487
It it's now and take advantage while you can.

00:17:56.487 --> 00:18:02.768
Or do you see more elaborators like this reaching out to other brands?

00:18:02.768 --> 00:18:06.301
Title is callaway, paying whatever, and I can see more of it.

00:18:06.362 --> 00:18:29.242
We've already seen it with malbon I mean malbon partnering with a bunch of different brands like uh yeah, they did budweiser, like um I can't think of any more, but I think there is more to come, for sure well, they've done stuff with nike yeah, they've done stuff with nike, um, so has kith kith's done stuff with nike?

00:18:29.323 --> 00:18:56.086
not in the golf world, um, but you know when they've created those relationships and you know, I like I'm not a big fan of like supreme anymore, like I used to love supreme, like supreme's cool to me, um, but I think if, yeah, the vice irons, I think if supreme for those that are in the hype world, I think if supreme did like a golf club, it would be way simpler and way cleaner.

00:18:56.385 --> 00:19:02.185
You know, and, and that's my thing with the kith stuff, it's like overdone, there's, there's too much going on.

00:19:02.185 --> 00:19:06.334
But if, like supreme did it, it would just be clean.

00:19:06.334 --> 00:19:12.500
There'd be like a little box logo in the corner of the heel or up the toe, um, and yeah, miles said sugar loaf.

00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:21.583
Sugar loaf is like is a really good brand to give you like that hype world but also connects to actual like the golf world.

00:19:21.583 --> 00:19:40.382
You know, and I could relate to like sugarloaf, to like supreme, and you know they do mckenzie bags and like, I think for the newcomer, they're bringing newcomers into the world and once those newcomers come in and if they fall in love with golf, they'll find way better stuff in it.

00:19:40.942 --> 00:19:48.173
Maybe it's just an entry point huh point we'll see all right, so there is more to come.

00:19:48.253 --> 00:19:52.989
I do think there's more to come um, here's a little poll question we got going on this week.

00:19:52.989 --> 00:19:57.767
I found out last week how to run a poll on youtube, so, uh, this is this week's poll question.

00:19:57.767 --> 00:20:03.326
Should golf companies uh, you know that deal with a specific thing, like a clothing brand?

00:20:03.326 --> 00:20:10.769
Uh, stick to what they know, or do you like seeing these brands come out with small batch golf equipment at ridiculously high prices?

00:20:10.769 --> 00:20:19.733
And yes, um, I'm referring to malbon making a 1700 putter as oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that one geez.

00:20:20.381 --> 00:20:26.613
Yeah, that's ridiculous I mean, and then was it a 35 000 kith golf cart.

00:20:26.613 --> 00:20:27.374
Joe, is that what you're?

00:20:28.340 --> 00:20:31.368
yeah, so 1500 deposit and then 35 total.

00:20:31.368 --> 00:20:42.366
I don't know the brand of the cart, but like well golf clubs, golf carts are expensive now anyways I don't think they're 35 grand, but I mean they're looking at some and I was like you can get a good one for like 17 grand.

00:20:42.366 --> 00:20:44.872
You know, like, do you actually need that?

00:20:45.011 --> 00:20:45.532
I don't know.

00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:53.728
That's more than what my car cost.

00:20:53.728 --> 00:20:55.471
Who Roll King, roll King.

00:20:55.832 --> 00:20:56.333
Roll King.

00:20:56.333 --> 00:20:59.263
Never heard of him.

00:20:59.263 --> 00:21:03.053
So we have to see if they're even a you know putter company.

00:21:04.180 --> 00:21:05.022
And that's the thing right.

00:21:05.022 --> 00:21:33.393
So like if malbon's bringing these people into the game and they're spending 1700, I mean, like you know there's so many more out there that could do probably something better for you, customized to you, painted, stamped, at a lower price point, you know, like twisted necks, like mac made and lamb and olsen, and you know there's so many, there's so many options out there how about that?

00:21:34.181 --> 00:21:39.569
that one piece olsen plumber's neck mallet that he was making today?

00:21:40.791 --> 00:21:42.275
yeah, who is he making that for?

00:21:43.161 --> 00:21:51.010
I don't know me, maybe maybe me, maybe me, I don't know it looked.

00:21:51.010 --> 00:21:55.641
It looked pretty sweet, though, so let's see, uh, how that turns out.

00:21:55.641 --> 00:22:05.309
Um, let's see, hey, what's, uh, what is your guys's thoughts on the Rory, amanda, baleonis or Brenner?

00:22:06.550 --> 00:22:12.376
rumors Renner, renner, yeah, no B, I don't know.

00:22:12.376 --> 00:22:17.085
I saw something and I was just like eh, that doesn't entertain me at all.

00:22:17.907 --> 00:22:20.946
No, even if it comes to fruition.

00:22:20.946 --> 00:22:21.509
That it's true.

00:22:23.301 --> 00:22:24.226
Yeah, I don't really care.

00:22:24.522 --> 00:22:41.905
I mean, I really could give a shit, you know joe's, so frozen right now not on my screen yeah, frozen, you're frozen, bro, I'll do the joe pose can you not hear me?

00:22:41.905 --> 00:22:57.816
Oh yeah, we can hear you fine there you go, I'm moving, yeah ah okay so no, nobody cares about rory and amanda renner, so we won't deal with any more on that.

00:22:57.816 --> 00:22:59.583
Let's get into the good stuff.

00:22:59.583 --> 00:23:03.049
Dan, welcome back buddy.

00:23:03.049 --> 00:23:05.094
Michigan was awesome.

00:23:05.094 --> 00:23:10.405
How uh your flight started off?

00:23:10.405 --> 00:23:11.428
Kind of fun.

00:23:12.551 --> 00:23:12.632
Oh.

00:23:12.672 --> 00:23:16.645
Jesus, yeah, what happened.

00:23:18.250 --> 00:23:47.679
Well, we didn't have a very crowded flight and Trey and I ended up sitting across from each other and we were just for you, yeah yeah, and we were just bullshit and talking about something and then all of a sudden, just this nauseating fumes, just I mean the most rancid, toxic fart I've ever smelt in my life.

00:23:47.679 --> 00:23:50.511
I even told Trey top three worst things I've ever smelt in my life.

00:23:51.034 --> 00:23:51.796
Top three.

00:23:52.265 --> 00:23:54.931
Yeah, it was bad, it was super bad.

00:23:54.931 --> 00:24:10.775
Thankfully there wasn't anybody around for like two rows behind us, but in the height of its stench the flight attendant lady walked right through and just she had to have gotten crop dusted, I mean the apex of the stench.

00:24:11.477 --> 00:24:15.026
Yes, the apex, I mean it was it was at full rot.

00:24:15.207 --> 00:24:23.833
I mean we're level 10 fucking devcon 5, full rot and she just comes walking right through that and I look at you and he's dying laughing.

00:24:23.833 --> 00:24:27.048
I'm trying not to die, it was just, it was.

00:24:27.851 --> 00:24:33.268
It was incredible I could have an 11 egg salad sandwich dude.

00:24:33.288 --> 00:24:55.285
Well, he told me and trey, I love you brother he told me about this video about this guy eating egg yolks with chocolate and, like I'm not sure if he like blended it up and made like a chocolate mousse protein type of type of drink, and I think trey said that he had that.

00:24:55.285 --> 00:25:04.496
So if you can imagine a whipped egg protein shake, then he goes into an enclosed capsule and just unleashes death on all of us.

00:25:06.718 --> 00:25:12.230
In an enclosed capsule, flying Flying 600 miles an hour.

00:25:12.250 --> 00:25:18.730
Yeah, nowhere to go, thousands of feet up, no, nowhere, nowhere, we're safe.

00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:27.669
So yeah, that's how the trip started and thankfully it's.

00:25:27.669 --> 00:25:39.220
You know, it went and, uh, we got to denver and had a couple of, had a couple drinks on the layover that's funny yeah, that was, that was rough miles is chiming in a little bit about the rory thing.

00:25:39.986 --> 00:25:43.872
He said you go from tennis phenom to a crazy under the radar smoke.

00:25:43.872 --> 00:25:51.452
Show to Amanda the drama of what will happen to Amanda and how Rory will respond and if he's defecting and divorcing.

00:25:52.066 --> 00:25:54.971
I do believe that, right, I do 100 percent believe that.

00:25:54.971 --> 00:25:56.054
I just I really don't.

00:25:56.054 --> 00:25:59.386
I don't care much, you know, I think it's.

00:25:59.386 --> 00:26:11.912
If it does hit, it's going to be a story and it's going to affect the golf world In a different way, not like for us, right?

00:26:11.912 --> 00:26:17.575
I don't care about that.

00:26:17.575 --> 00:26:25.905
Now, maybe he might have some fans look at him the wrong way, maybe he struggles on the course, I don't know.

00:26:25.905 --> 00:26:30.046
But it doesn't affect me and I don't.

00:26:30.046 --> 00:26:31.692
You know, I'm not a big Rory fan.

00:26:31.692 --> 00:26:34.674
If I was a big Rory fan, maybe I'd care a bit more.

00:26:34.674 --> 00:26:39.634
But it's going to be interesting to see if it comes to fruition.

00:26:40.266 --> 00:26:53.356
Yeah, we're going to be hearing Brandel Chamblee talk about it, you know, on Pinehurst 18 from a rafter and he's going to dissect how his swing is different because he is dating.

00:26:53.596 --> 00:26:58.153
Renner, you know, yep, just we'll leave that little nugget out there.

00:26:58.756 --> 00:27:00.871
Yeah, do the pose again.

00:27:04.306 --> 00:27:07.214
Yeah, true, he said.

00:27:07.214 --> 00:27:11.008
Miles said what players do we care about at this point that aren't PGA?

00:27:11.008 --> 00:27:12.090
Part of PGA?

00:27:12.090 --> 00:27:13.954
Not many.

00:27:13.954 --> 00:27:15.518
I like Bryson.

00:27:15.984 --> 00:27:21.973
Not many Bryson's probably the only one, just because of how animated he is and what he can do with a golf ball.

00:27:21.973 --> 00:27:27.268
I think Bryson came out of the PGA championship better than when he went in Than when he went in.

00:27:27.268 --> 00:27:28.993
For sure Nobody else did.

00:27:28.993 --> 00:27:31.089
Taylor Gooch certainly didn't.

00:27:33.226 --> 00:27:34.128
Well, he'd never heard of her.

00:27:35.453 --> 00:27:38.210
Yeah, hey, check this out.

00:27:38.210 --> 00:27:40.650
Oh wait, no, we're talking, Dan.

00:27:40.650 --> 00:27:42.736
I'm sorry, we can do that later.

00:27:42.736 --> 00:27:45.999
We got derailed a little bit uh.

00:27:45.999 --> 00:27:46.279
So what?

00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:47.487
What was your guy?

00:27:47.487 --> 00:27:48.470
What was the trip for?

00:27:48.470 --> 00:27:49.192
What'd you guys do?

00:27:49.192 --> 00:27:49.875
Where'd you play?

00:27:50.818 --> 00:27:53.828
so I had signed up for a lottery to play in this tournament called the duel.

00:27:53.828 --> 00:28:05.806
They hold it at the loop of forest dunes and the loop is a tom doke golf course that can be played in reverse, so it can play 18 holes one way and then the next day you play it in reverse the other way.

00:28:05.806 --> 00:28:11.646
Well, this tournament is the only day where they have it set up where you can play both on the same day.

00:28:11.646 --> 00:28:15.118
So, um, it was kind of a limited lottery draw.

00:28:15.118 --> 00:28:42.386
We got lucky enough, I got drawn and trey went with me and, uh, it was a pretty awesome experience, because it's hard enough to design a good quality golf course but then also to design it where you can play it in reverse and still have the same amount of difficulty or new difficulties on a hole that you just played in the opposite direction, like it.

00:28:42.386 --> 00:28:43.490
It was kind of mind blowing.

00:28:44.132 --> 00:28:51.270
Um, I thought it was actually kind of brilliant, um did you feel like you were at the same place, or are you standing there looking at completely different holes?

00:28:52.173 --> 00:28:53.194
Well, you can.

00:28:53.194 --> 00:28:57.035
It felt like you're at the same place just because conditions were exactly the same.

00:28:57.035 --> 00:29:04.856
But playing the different routes and playing it in reverse it, it gave it that feel like it was two different golf courses.

00:29:05.306 --> 00:29:10.954
You get what I'm saying yeah um, I liked the way they set up the red.

00:29:10.954 --> 00:29:19.896
Um, the red loop, which is the first round we played, the black one, uh, was set up a little bit more difficult that way.

00:29:19.896 --> 00:29:27.450
But also, you know we were tired, it was our, it was our second round for the day, so we were dragging ass the last like nine holes.

00:29:27.450 --> 00:29:36.057
But it was a pretty awesome experience and I definitely want to try to do it again next year, for sure.

00:29:36.757 --> 00:29:38.719
Is it nine holes or is it 18?

00:29:38.719 --> 00:29:39.759
It's 18.

00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.800
It's two 18-hole courses.

00:29:41.800 --> 00:29:48.037
You just do the red one way in 18, and then you do the black the opposite way for the second 18.

00:29:48.057 --> 00:29:48.500
So it's 18 holes?

00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:49.045
Yeah, it's 18 holes.

00:29:49.045 --> 00:29:53.270
I thought it was nine that you played nine one way and then nine back ways to make it.

00:29:53.332 --> 00:29:55.009
Oh, no, yeah, no, it's 18 holes.

00:29:55.009 --> 00:29:57.705
Oh, that's cool yeah it was pretty awesome.

00:29:58.666 --> 00:29:59.928
Yeah, I mean Doak.

00:29:59.928 --> 00:30:05.271
I know he'd always wanted to do that, especially after St Andrews, because St Andrews played in reverse.

00:30:05.271 --> 00:30:10.115
But I mean I really want to get out there, because I do want to see how that works.

00:30:10.115 --> 00:30:12.757
Yeah, you would have geeked out for sure, joe.

00:30:12.757 --> 00:30:16.440
Yeah, as an architecture fan, I'm sure it's probably really sick.

00:30:17.299 --> 00:30:31.329
Yeah, for sure, one day we played pretty well, we shot 66-68, six under, uh, two-man best ball nice.

00:30:31.329 --> 00:30:32.532
The winning team shot 66 61.

00:30:32.532 --> 00:30:33.515
So we kind of got throttled.

00:30:33.515 --> 00:30:37.044
We lost by seven, uh, but um, you know, we still took.

00:30:37.044 --> 00:30:45.419
We still took second, got some cool gifts and then um the next day we played the other course on property, forest dunes, which was just beautiful.

00:30:45.419 --> 00:30:46.605
It's completely different.

00:30:46.605 --> 00:30:46.905
Like.

00:30:46.905 --> 00:30:51.758
The loop is more of like a like a link style.

00:30:52.185 --> 00:31:02.076
I got a lot of of old Mac vibes on the loop, but the loop has, obviously, the more trees it's enclosed and stuff like that.

00:31:02.076 --> 00:31:05.746
But the holes reminded me a lot of of old mac.

00:31:05.746 --> 00:31:11.417
Um, I told trey that too, so he's kind of you know he's he's getting excited about it.

00:31:11.417 --> 00:31:15.813
Forest dunes, on the other hand, is like trails.

00:31:15.813 --> 00:31:19.567
It's in the trees, um a little bit greener, a little bit more plusher.

00:31:19.567 --> 00:31:22.412
Um, not as lynxie style.

00:31:22.412 --> 00:31:27.633
The greens there are definitely undulated, but not as bad as the lupus.

00:31:27.633 --> 00:31:35.134
It's more of a traditional like parkland style course, but it was in beautiful shape.

00:31:35.134 --> 00:31:37.010
The service was fantastic.

00:31:37.010 --> 00:31:39.894
The facility was amazing.

00:31:39.894 --> 00:31:46.722
Bars outside, customer service was, I mean, whatever they're doing, doing there, they're doing it right.

00:31:46.864 --> 00:31:52.886
Forest dunes is a sick, sick facility I think I did see something where there's another course coming up there too.

00:31:53.228 --> 00:31:59.949
They definitely have the room and there's rumors about it from the little you know, murmurs that we heard over there on the course.

00:31:59.949 --> 00:32:07.032
They have a 2200 or or 22,000 acres I want to say 2,200 acres on property.

00:32:07.032 --> 00:32:11.353
So it's plenty of room, plenty of room to add another course for sure.

00:32:11.353 --> 00:32:13.397
Yeah, yeah, wow.

00:32:15.830 --> 00:32:18.470
So that's not where you finished, though you had one other spot, right?

00:32:19.165 --> 00:32:20.310
Actually we had a few other spots.

00:32:20.310 --> 00:32:29.592
Yeah, after that we went to Arcadiaadia, played arcadia bluffs out there and uh, that was fantastic too.

00:32:29.592 --> 00:32:33.646
Um, a lot of a lot of bandon vibes, a lot of chambers bay bay vibes.

00:32:33.646 --> 00:32:37.276
Actually, I should say more more chambers bay than bandon, um.

00:32:37.276 --> 00:32:48.286
But um, it's kind of weird being out there because it literally is on lake michigan and it is like a freshwater ocean there's.

00:32:48.286 --> 00:32:50.615
You can't see land, you can't see across.

00:32:50.615 --> 00:32:53.865
It's crazy to think that that's just all fresh water.

00:32:53.865 --> 00:32:57.354
But uh, the course was awesome.

00:32:57.354 --> 00:32:59.018
Um, the back nine was.

00:32:59.018 --> 00:33:04.230
I mean I don't know if you guys have seen a whole lot of pictures of arcadia bluffs.

00:33:04.230 --> 00:33:11.636
Mean, a lot of times they show the overviews and stuff on the cliffs, but when you get down to that course it is a rough walk.

00:33:11.636 --> 00:33:14.031
It's probably worse than Chambers.

00:33:14.031 --> 00:33:15.476
Joe.

00:33:15.516 --> 00:33:15.896
Really.

00:33:16.846 --> 00:33:24.419
Yeah, there's definitely more climbs on the back nine at Chambers than at I mean Arcadia Bluffs.

00:33:24.459 --> 00:33:24.980
That's surprising.

00:33:28.105 --> 00:33:29.067
I wouldn't think that you wouldn't, you wouldn't.

00:33:29.067 --> 00:33:31.251
The pictures don't do justice how, how hilly that place is, but it's.

00:33:31.251 --> 00:33:33.958
It's awesome, uh, great shape.

00:33:33.958 --> 00:33:34.707
Greens are.

00:33:34.707 --> 00:33:36.531
The fairways are running really hard.

00:33:36.531 --> 00:33:45.419
So you know, trey and I were hitting some pretty, pretty big bombs out there, um, but the greens are definitely the um, the equalizer at that course.

00:33:45.419 --> 00:33:49.076
There's not one straight or flat putt out there on these greens.

00:33:49.684 --> 00:33:50.890
That's the Bluffs course.

00:33:50.890 --> 00:33:52.871
Right, yeah, we just played the Bluffs course.

00:33:52.871 --> 00:34:01.175
They have another course just down the street on the south course, which is a Lynx course Coffin Bunkers, Ray's Square, Greens.

00:34:01.175 --> 00:34:02.358
It looks pretty sick.

00:34:02.358 --> 00:34:17.177
We just didn't have the time to play that one because we had to make our way down to grand rapids bluffs course designed by warren henderson and rick smith yeah, it was it opened in 1999, same year as madness it's awesome cool clubhouse also too.

00:34:17.277 --> 00:34:22.673
After that, if you ever go to arcadia bluffs, you have to get the baked brie appetizer.

00:34:22.673 --> 00:34:26.983
I I had never had brie before in my life.

00:34:26.983 --> 00:34:40.489
But they give you like a little hockey puck of like kind of like melty cream, creamy brie cheese and then they throw honey and berries around it and they give you like these little crostinis oh, I can't even imagine oh, it was so good like I never.

00:34:40.489 --> 00:34:42.152
I've never really ordered anything like that.

00:34:42.152 --> 00:34:47.380
I'm not like a Focaccia or a what's that stuff called Bruschetta, bruschetta.

00:34:48.547 --> 00:34:51.478
Bruschetta charcuterie, bruschetta Focaccia.

00:34:51.539 --> 00:34:53.065
I'm not going to order that you know what I'm saying.

00:34:53.726 --> 00:34:54.570
I'm so glad.

00:34:54.570 --> 00:34:57.012
I'm so glad Trey did Cheese curds.

00:34:57.594 --> 00:35:09.666
Yeah, you know, I'm not.

00:35:09.666 --> 00:35:10.467
I'm not a charcuterie board kind of.

00:35:10.467 --> 00:35:11.471
I mean, I'll you know I'll have a couple snacks.

00:35:11.471 --> 00:35:14.440
They're here and there, but I'm not going to order it, but trey did and it was fantastic and I'm definitely going to try to make that because it was.

00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:16.525
It was awesome, so yeah, go to arcadia bluffs, get the baked brie, and where's you wrap it up at?

00:35:17.367 --> 00:35:27.932
up down in, uh, grand rapids had a course called american dunes and, uh, this was really special because american Dunes has a collaboration partnership with Folds of Honor.

00:35:27.932 --> 00:35:36.416
So a lot of the proceeds and of the green fees and sales inside the clubhouse go to go to Folds of Honor.

00:35:36.416 --> 00:35:40.748
So it gives, you know, a little bit of help, a little bit of money to families of fallen soldiers.

00:35:40.748 --> 00:35:44.242
And it was, it was a beautiful thing.

00:35:44.242 --> 00:35:46.088
They have like a little walkthrough Memorial.

00:35:46.088 --> 00:35:50.106
Uh, as you get to the clubhouse you have to go through it to get into the clubhouse.

00:35:50.547 --> 00:35:53.536
Is that in that, that Dune state park right right by there?

00:35:53.536 --> 00:35:58.139
Uh, cause, I was when Emma was thinking about going to Kalamazoo.

00:35:58.139 --> 00:36:06.478
I was searching golf courses and I came across that it's a Dunes national park and it it looked insane and there was a golf course near it.

00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:12.418
So it might be, I'm I'm not sure, but uh, it's right in grand Haven.

00:36:12.418 --> 00:36:17.733
So if the, if the dunes park or whatever it is right, is in grand Haven, then yeah, it's probably it.

00:36:17.885 --> 00:36:21.210
I have to look and see but uh, it was, it was awesome.

00:36:21.992 --> 00:36:25.699
Yeah, nicholas course, uh, beautiful course, amazing bunkering.

00:36:25.699 --> 00:36:28.824
Yeah, nicholas course, beautiful course, amazing bunkering.

00:36:28.824 --> 00:36:36.503
It kind of reminded me of Tobacco Road as far as the bunkers go.

00:36:36.503 --> 00:36:48.632
Interesting, every tee box has two boulders One significant of a hole that Jack played in a major or some kind of career, um, um, like highlight.

00:36:48.632 --> 00:37:00.572
The other, boulder, was a uh memorial of fallen soldier, kind of give a little background of you know what they, what they, where they served and how, unfortunately, how they died.

00:37:00.572 --> 00:37:06.733
Um, but um, it was very humbling, it was very emotional.

00:37:06.813 --> 00:37:11.733
At one o'clock they played uh taps, um, they played it all throughout the golf course.

00:37:11.733 --> 00:37:15.570
They asked everybody to stop playing golf, so everybody was kind of there.

00:37:15.570 --> 00:37:18.195
They uncovered um, played taps.

00:37:18.195 --> 00:37:22.972
Yeah, they had 13 gongs, um, which represents the folds.

00:37:22.972 --> 00:37:27.311
When you fold the American flag in the triangular shape, there's 13 folds.

00:37:27.311 --> 00:37:29.471
So that was pretty cool.

00:37:29.471 --> 00:37:47.916
They also have a thing called a nickel in the grass and it was a I think it's more for Air Force, but they flick a nickel into just some long grass by a memorial and that's just kind of how they pay honor to fallen airmen.

00:37:47.916 --> 00:37:58.344
So that's on 17T, I think, but um, but yeah, it was just um, it was a cool experience.

00:37:58.344 --> 00:38:03.083
I've never really golfed at a course that had anything like that before.

00:38:03.525 --> 00:38:05.190
Very different, very different.

00:38:05.210 --> 00:38:05.731
Yeah, it was.

00:38:05.731 --> 00:38:09.860
It was different, it was amazing, it was uh humbling.

00:38:09.860 --> 00:38:17.487
Um, you know, uh, trey, first Trey, especially cause you know his, his dad and grandfather, they, they were they served.

00:38:17.487 --> 00:38:19.054
So you know his, his dad and grandfather, they, they were they served.

00:38:19.054 --> 00:38:20.958
So you know that that's near and dear to his heart.

00:38:20.958 --> 00:38:30.085
So, uh, it was, uh it was a very cool experience and a fantastic golf course, really, really fun golf course all right, rank them.

00:38:31.608 --> 00:38:35.159
Rank them for us, one through five katia bluffs.

00:38:35.219 --> 00:38:38.505
Number one, for sure I'm going to go.

00:38:38.505 --> 00:38:40.489
Forest Dunes two.

00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:47.626
I'm going to go Red Routing, loop three, black Routing four.

00:38:47.626 --> 00:38:53.777
American Dunes fifth and that's not a knock on any of those things, because American.

00:38:53.797 --> 00:38:54.882
Dunes is one or two.

00:38:56.755 --> 00:38:58.643
There's awesome golf out there in Michigan.

00:38:59.255 --> 00:39:02.425
So because you won the lottery, are you like grandfathered into next year?

00:39:03.135 --> 00:39:05.262
I would hope so, but I don't think so.

00:39:05.262 --> 00:39:06.826
I don't know.

00:39:06.826 --> 00:39:08.742
They didn't really say anything like that.

00:39:09.355 --> 00:39:12.130
Well, I'll have to enter, so we can try and.

00:39:12.150 --> 00:39:13.014
Yeah, the more the merrier.

00:39:13.014 --> 00:39:14.655
I mean they even allow caddies out there.

00:39:14.655 --> 00:39:25.485
They even allow caddies out there so you know, if one person doesn't get drawn, you can caddy for your buddies that one day, but still, you know, join on the rest of the golf trip.

00:39:25.485 --> 00:39:28.009
Heck, yeah, so it was awesome.

00:39:28.009 --> 00:39:31.351
Michigan, michigan's dope I really want to get to Michigan.

00:39:33.635 --> 00:39:34.619
Really want to get to Michigan.

00:39:34.619 --> 00:39:37.947
Can you ride at Arcadia Bluffs or is it walking only?

00:39:38.635 --> 00:39:39.233
I don't know.

00:39:39.233 --> 00:39:40.119
No, you can you ride at arcadia bluffs, or is it walking?

00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:40.193
Only I don't know.

00:39:40.193 --> 00:39:40.306
Uh, no, you can, you can ride.

00:39:40.306 --> 00:39:41.809
Okay, you can ride.

00:39:41.809 --> 00:39:50.791
The only course we had to walk was the loop we rode on forest dunes, arcadia bluffs and american dunes you had to walk the 36 on loop yeah, we had to walk 36.

00:39:50.791 --> 00:39:52.880
We took push carts, though, so love it.

00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.688
Yeah they, they supplied them there.

00:39:54.688 --> 00:39:55.030
So that was.

00:39:55.030 --> 00:39:55.893
That was nice, not to.

00:39:55.934 --> 00:39:58.239
Is that a walking only, or is it just for that event?

00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:03.028
I think it was just for that event, because they're have carts at the facility.

00:40:03.108 --> 00:40:13.916
So I'm going to try to get full handicap verified for bandon so we can take a cart that's no, that.

00:40:13.976 --> 00:40:15.842
That defeats the purpose denny.

00:40:16.001 --> 00:40:17.284
Denny and I are working at it.

00:40:17.284 --> 00:40:17.525
We're.

00:40:17.525 --> 00:40:18.929
That defeats the purpose.

00:40:18.929 --> 00:40:20.634
Danny and I are working at it.

00:40:20.653 --> 00:40:27.327
We're all handicapped, jeremy and me be riding around the whole place.

00:40:27.327 --> 00:40:28.708
Joe, Joe, just be pissed.

00:40:29.554 --> 00:40:30.460
You can't do this.

00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:34.264
This is not how golf was meant to be.

00:40:34.715 --> 00:40:35.942
Yeah 100%.

00:40:35.942 --> 00:40:36.396
You gotta walk it.

00:40:36.396 --> 00:40:38.206
Let's do our Las Vegas to be yeah 100%.

00:40:38.246 --> 00:40:39.673
No, you gotta walk it Alright.

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00:41:23.492 --> 00:41:40.146
So hey did you guys see, I know I was talking with jeremy about it on saturday uh, the new um canon rangefinder yeah, so they're checking their, their powershot technology and their.

00:41:40.385 --> 00:41:42.148
It's a laser range finder.

00:41:42.148 --> 00:41:48.757
It has a digital zoom, so when you look through it you can zoom in a little bit to get a better close picture of the green.

00:41:48.757 --> 00:41:51.041
Um, it has jolt.

00:41:51.041 --> 00:41:52.224
It's got pin seeker.

00:41:52.224 --> 00:41:56.079
It's got a liquid crystal display, super clear.

00:41:56.079 --> 00:42:08.661
Um, but then it also has a button where you can hit it and it will save your yardages that you shot and then, if you turn off the laser, it turns into a camera or video camera sounds expensive.

00:42:08.721 --> 00:42:16.338
It also sounds sick 399 or 375, really, yes, yeah, oh fuck, I thought it'd be more like a grand, and it's.

00:42:16.637 --> 00:42:18.501
It's smaller than the Bushnells.

00:42:18.501 --> 00:42:22.588
Wow, sick Interesting.

00:42:22.588 --> 00:42:25.880
That comes out in July.

00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:31.375
Speaking of new drops Jeremy how excited are you, buddy?

00:42:31.594 --> 00:42:32.639
Which GT are you going for?

00:42:34.077 --> 00:42:36.938
It's actually weird that they went with GT.

00:42:36.938 --> 00:42:37.501
I didn't expect that.

00:42:37.501 --> 00:42:43.302
I don't expect that, I don't know, why, it seems a little odd, but yeah, I'm definitely going to get one.

00:42:43.302 --> 00:42:48.686
They changed enough, I think that it'll feel like a different driver.

00:42:48.686 --> 00:42:51.498
I think Does GT have?

00:42:52.340 --> 00:42:55.068
any significance in the Titleist name?

00:42:55.068 --> 00:42:56.860
Is it a throwback?

00:42:58.559 --> 00:42:58.840
Is it a?

00:42:58.860 --> 00:43:00.606
collab with the grants.

00:43:00.606 --> 00:43:04.043
Yeah, I don't know what it's.

00:43:04.043 --> 00:43:15.001
It's odd gt's always been associated with cars and I don't know where yeah, so bikes, you know where they dino so it was.

00:43:15.001 --> 00:43:18.248
That was sort of left field, but but there it's.

00:43:18.248 --> 00:43:21.561
I always think about that, like the naming conventions.

00:43:21.561 --> 00:43:29.447
They started, they made sense like back in the day and then they started going random naming and it was like wait, we're going backwards.

00:43:29.447 --> 00:43:31.824
And then it's like they started throwing letters in the names.

00:43:32.215 --> 00:43:53.677
I think they're rolling a dungeon and dragon 20 sided dice and I think so Picking the first five Qi 10, max, lr7 yeah yes, definitely the xcw w1 but it did confuse me because they just been releasing pictures of that two wood.

00:43:54.117 --> 00:44:11.380
Like the mini driver slash two wood and that was the tsr and so I don't know if that was a core, only thing they made for like max, homa and a few players, but I don't know that sort of kind of shattered my dream of getting one of those.

00:44:11.380 --> 00:44:13.666
But maybe they'll come out with a gt version of it.

00:44:13.666 --> 00:44:14.876
I don't know, but the fairway, it all looks good.

00:44:14.876 --> 00:44:15.418
It's definitely tideless.

00:44:15.418 --> 00:44:18.282
They don't know, but the fairway, it all looks good, it's definitely tideless.

00:44:18.282 --> 00:44:21.528
They don't stray very far from the designs, but I think.

00:44:21.835 --> 00:44:22.898
Gloss black top.

00:44:23.740 --> 00:44:24.041
Yeah.

00:44:24.925 --> 00:44:25.244
Nothing.

00:44:25.375 --> 00:44:32.360
The face looks brighter, the bottom looks different than the current ones, the weights are in different spots, so we'll see.

00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:33.460
I'm sure it'll be in my bag.

00:44:35.456 --> 00:44:36.338
Did you already pre-order?

00:44:36.338 --> 00:44:37.099
Is that what you're saying?

00:44:37.099 --> 00:44:38.844
Maybe, maybe.

00:44:38.844 --> 00:44:40.447
Did you already pre-order?

00:44:40.447 --> 00:44:41.168
Is that what you're saying?

00:44:41.168 --> 00:44:43.253
Maybe, maybe, maybe.

00:44:43.655 --> 00:44:45.561
Somebody get this guy a sales rep.

00:44:45.561 --> 00:44:46.344
Let's get him a connect.

00:44:49.476 --> 00:44:51.625
Hi Liz man, Come on, We'll see.

00:44:51.625 --> 00:44:53.458
This is what I was going to show earlier.

00:44:53.458 --> 00:44:54.641
Anybody know what this is?

00:44:55.643 --> 00:44:59.342
Sun glasses, golden ticket that's what I was thinking.

00:45:00.554 --> 00:45:02.541
Matt got a golden ticket.

00:45:02.541 --> 00:45:11.547
No, this is a uh, sunglasses case, boozy, boozy, no.

00:45:11.547 --> 00:45:14.753
So um phone cozy, yeah.

00:45:14.753 --> 00:45:20.545
So out at Mesquite it was getting a little hot, people's phones were.

00:45:20.545 --> 00:45:31.168
So this is designed to have your phone go in it and it blocks 90% of the heat from the sun.

00:45:33.181 --> 00:45:34.965
Dan, you might be able to help me out on this one.

00:45:34.965 --> 00:45:36.440
What do they call those in jail?

00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:37.286
The Fousey Jail?

00:45:37.286 --> 00:45:38.190
What do I got to help you out with that one?

00:45:38.190 --> 00:45:38.733
What do they call those in?

00:45:38.753 --> 00:45:39.195
jail, the Fousey Jail.

00:45:40.396 --> 00:45:41.942
What do I got to help you out with that, jeremy, do you?

00:45:41.961 --> 00:45:43.757
know I have no idea, hey Dan.

00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:49.782
What do they call this in jail?

00:45:51.186 --> 00:45:51.626
Jeez.

00:45:52.277 --> 00:45:53.402
Okay, I got to search that.

00:45:53.914 --> 00:45:55.041
Is it the Raider fan in me?

00:45:55.396 --> 00:45:57.775
No, it's not a phone case in jail, do you?

00:45:57.795 --> 00:46:00.764
assume I'm some kind of felon no, it's no.

00:46:00.994 --> 00:46:05.186
I do because you're a raider fan, you've been to prison hey dan, what do they call the food in prison?

00:46:05.876 --> 00:46:10.463
no, not food, bro, yeah, so uh, what is it?

00:46:10.483 --> 00:46:21.715
called, it's gonna be 114 degrees the next couple days and, uh, I got a tea time friday morning early, thank god, um and uh, so yeah, gonna check that out.

00:46:21.815 --> 00:46:27.447
And then sunday, so do they make other colors, or is that specifically designed for the heat?

00:46:28.177 --> 00:46:28.557
they.

00:46:28.557 --> 00:46:34.251
This is nasa or nasa nasa tech, so they have a silver and a gold.

00:46:34.251 --> 00:46:35.335
This is the cheaper version.

00:46:35.335 --> 00:46:42.300
They have a black and a lime green one that's even more durable and but even more expensive.

00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:44.606
So I'm like I'm not gonna misplace this.

00:46:44.606 --> 00:46:47.974
No, yeah, or I could.

00:46:47.974 --> 00:46:59.081
I could put a chain on it and then, sell it on ebay as a fancy, you know there's like a little clutch, all right I'll write kith on it right here and then sell it on eBay for $600.

00:46:59.802 --> 00:47:01.045
Yeah, big money.

00:47:01.485 --> 00:47:03.469
One of a kind, only one.

00:47:03.469 --> 00:47:04.110
Ever made.

00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:09.083
One of one, one of one, let's see.

00:47:09.083 --> 00:47:11.887
So, dan, you weren't here for the VGN event.

00:47:11.887 --> 00:47:16.505
I was not, so you did not get to partake in Falcon Ridge.

00:47:16.934 --> 00:47:27.414
You had way better time'm sure with that, with the weather out there, you were living it up yeah I think the highest temperature was like 73.

00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.748
Yeah, it was pretty perfect yeah that was one in the morning.

00:47:34.157 --> 00:47:39.309
Yeah, no doubt um falcon ridge, so, uh, so Joe, kind of hyped up Falcon Ridge.

00:47:39.309 --> 00:47:42.724
I was very disappointed.

00:47:42.724 --> 00:47:47.244
So, personal take, personal take.

00:47:47.244 --> 00:47:52.081
It's not funner than Conestoga, it's not better than Conestoga.

00:47:52.081 --> 00:47:58.447
It's really shitty the way that it's put together in my opinion.

00:47:58.447 --> 00:47:59.938
There's no range range.

00:47:59.938 --> 00:48:01.815
The putting green is small.

00:48:01.815 --> 00:48:07.289
Um, that back nine is some of the dumbest golf I've ever seen.

00:48:07.289 --> 00:48:11.797
You know, holes 11, 12 and 13, just absolutely retarded.

00:48:11.797 --> 00:48:15.646
Um didn't like it whatsoever.

00:48:15.646 --> 00:48:22.802
Uh, there's some other good ones, there's some good holes on the back, but that stretch, it's just fucking lame.

00:48:22.802 --> 00:48:24.786
In my opinion, no reason whatsoever.

00:48:24.786 --> 00:48:25.996
Should have never built it.

00:48:25.996 --> 00:48:33.201
Should have just kept that a trailer park community, old senior, retired nine hole course and left it alone.

00:48:33.221 --> 00:48:34.860
This guy's trying to get rid of golf courses.

00:48:35.302 --> 00:48:38.981
Other than that, wow, why don't you go spray roundup?

00:48:39.242 --> 00:48:40.635
go spray roundup on revere.

00:48:40.635 --> 00:48:41.197
Why don't you?

00:48:41.217 --> 00:48:49.335
uh, the the front nine, I I liked the front nine, I mean it was, it wasn't bad, it wasn't great.

00:48:49.335 --> 00:48:59.670
There's some unique holes, um, but uh, it looked like a Palm Springs desert community.

00:48:59.670 --> 00:49:02.340
Golf course, it wasn't anything special.

00:49:02.340 --> 00:49:07.262
And then the back nine is just a fucking train wreck.

00:49:07.262 --> 00:49:10.989
Just stupid, just stupid, just dumb.

00:49:11.009 --> 00:49:11.829
Have you played it, dan?

00:49:11.829 --> 00:49:13.800
I've played Pockenridge, yeah.

00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:24.505
So the only thing that disappointed me other than my front nine was the on the back, that hole that went around the hill yes, that uphill.

00:49:25.268 --> 00:49:50.661
They completely destroyed that hole because that they dug that entire mountain out and they're building houses and the houses are literally like they're going to be on top of the golf course yeah when you told me that I was like that would have made that probably a lot better hole, yeah, than than what it is now, because yeah, it's terrible, it's really bad yeah 13, 13 13 yeah, they, they did destroy that one dumb fucking golf hole.

00:49:52.123 --> 00:49:56.217
Yeah, they destroyed that one, yeah that's messed up yep.

00:49:56.378 --> 00:49:59.045
So and then the bunkers were atrocious.

00:49:59.045 --> 00:50:06.402
Um, the bunkers were rolling faster than the greens, um, which you never want to hear.

00:50:06.402 --> 00:50:23.961
Uh, we, uh, glenn allison played with us and on uh 12 he hit his approach, shot uh on the right edge, uh above the bunker, and the ball bounced, landed and rolled and dropped into the bunker and rolled all the way through the bunker into the water.

00:50:23.961 --> 00:50:27.456
And I was like I can't believe.

00:50:27.456 --> 00:50:30.630
I just watched that because I told him I go I, I go.

00:50:30.690 --> 00:50:31.954
Oh shit, your ball just went in the water.

00:50:31.954 --> 00:50:32.695
And he's like fuck you.

00:50:32.695 --> 00:50:33.117
No, it didn't.

00:50:33.577 --> 00:50:37.824
I'm like no, seriously, it was flat, it rolled on flat sand.

00:50:38.646 --> 00:50:39.827
Just kept going.

00:50:40.409 --> 00:50:41.409
And then we get in the clubhouse.

00:50:42.934 --> 00:50:45.824
And the same thing happened to Steven Jackson and Miles.

00:50:45.824 --> 00:50:50.465
They both, miles, hit his ball in the bunker and it rolled all the way out.

00:50:50.465 --> 00:50:53.684
Steven was on the backside of the green, hit a chip shot that went.

00:50:53.684 --> 00:50:55.059
He said he bladed it.

00:50:55.059 --> 00:51:08.702
So you know his fault for blading it, but still it went in the bunker and he went to go get it and couldn't find it because it rolled all and it wasn't a small bunker, it wasn't you know a little Rhodes ranch, you know little pot bunker next to the green.

00:51:09.096 --> 00:51:13.818
It's a big bunker and it it rolled like wild.

00:51:13.898 --> 00:51:17.385
So did you guys know that you're not supposed to hit balls into a bunker?

00:51:18.527 --> 00:51:19.148
Well, of course not.

00:51:19.148 --> 00:51:20.681
He didn't hit a ball into the bunker.

00:51:20.681 --> 00:51:22.722
He hit it into the grass and then it dropped into the bunker.

00:51:22.722 --> 00:51:26.525
I was only in one bunker, so I was fine.

00:51:26.525 --> 00:51:29.481
Yeah, he was aiming for the green.

00:51:29.481 --> 00:51:30.820
What you hit the green every time.

00:51:31.876 --> 00:51:34.384
No, I didn't play well, but I still enjoyed myself.

00:51:34.384 --> 00:51:37.181
I still think it was fun.

00:51:37.181 --> 00:51:43.940
I had a blast I just think that golf course is very overrated.

00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:44.601
Okay, very my defense.

00:51:44.601 --> 00:51:53.543
You had fun of course, because I was playing golf yeah, I said I think falcon ridge is a very fun golf course.

00:51:54.423 --> 00:51:59.422
I didn't say it was better than other places rob said it was funner and you agreed yeah.

00:51:59.764 --> 00:52:02.137
Yeah, funner, yeah, I think it's a fun golf course.

00:52:02.478 --> 00:52:03.661
No, it's not at all.

00:52:03.661 --> 00:52:06.206
I disagree A hundred percent.

00:52:06.206 --> 00:52:10.094
So in in in cliff logic.

00:52:10.094 --> 00:52:14.338
If someone said 10 rounds of golf between Conestoga and Falcon Ridge, I'm playing 10 at.

00:52:14.338 --> 00:52:14.780
Conestoga.

00:52:22.014 --> 00:52:23.097
I would not play one more time there.

00:52:23.117 --> 00:52:32.715
Yeah, I didn't think conestoga was that, fun though it's, because it's a challenging golf course that doesn't equate to fun did you have?

00:52:32.815 --> 00:52:40.746
fun, fun, I think, I think, I think wolf creek Creek is it's another stupid course too dramatic.

00:52:40.746 --> 00:52:51.201
I think it's like if you were to relate it to shows like Wolf Creek is like keeping up with the Kardashians, you know and like.

00:52:51.201 --> 00:53:01.400
Connors is like Frasier, and then Falcon Ridge is like Seinfeld oh, hell, no, oh my God, that's a disgrace to Seinfeld.

00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:03.224
Seinfeld is way funner to watch than Frasier.

00:53:03.985 --> 00:53:13.653
Oh yeah, but it's a great show and Falcon Ridge is not a great golf course.

00:53:13.653 --> 00:53:15.148
Well, I'm just saying it's funner to watch Seinfeld Wolf Creek.

00:53:15.168 --> 00:53:18.958
The guy who did Wolf Creek did the back nine at Falcon Ridge, right, and whoever it was.

00:53:18.958 --> 00:53:21.159
So they did wolf creek.

00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.286
Get this wild craze.

00:53:23.286 --> 00:53:28.543
Praise for it goes on a tiger woods video game and they're like we need nine more holes of this.

00:53:28.543 --> 00:53:32.458
And the guy that owns the falcon ridge property just happened to be at the bar and went.

00:53:32.940 --> 00:53:41.719
I got a place for you and they said, okay, great, the sports bar around the corner yeah, and they whatever it's called they put that there.

00:53:42.942 --> 00:53:45.447
It should have never been there, should never been there.

00:53:45.447 --> 00:53:49.400
Man, that's all I'm saying.

00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:51.965
Yeah, I, I there.

00:53:51.965 --> 00:53:59.257
There will be a time when I play falcon ridge again, but not in this life, wow.

00:53:59.257 --> 00:54:03.481
Done for life Done for life.

00:54:03.481 --> 00:54:05.342
No, I had fun, though.

00:54:05.342 --> 00:54:07.264
There's some cool views.

00:54:07.264 --> 00:54:10.226
There's some fun holes to play.

00:54:10.226 --> 00:54:11.228
There's some fun holes.

00:54:11.228 --> 00:54:12.748
I'm not going to lie, there is some fun holes.

00:54:12.748 --> 00:54:15.351
I just don't think it's worth the hype.

00:54:15.351 --> 00:54:16.751
I don't think it's worth the money they're charging.

00:54:18.865 --> 00:54:19.233
No fucking range.

00:54:19.233 --> 00:54:20.998
Um, the range was disappointing.

00:54:20.998 --> 00:54:22.021
They're not the one like.

00:54:22.021 --> 00:54:25.297
They took the warm-up nets out, which is was not good.

00:54:25.498 --> 00:54:34.748
That's a bad move, for sure they're, hopefully getting one that'll go alongside 18, which will be nice to have a range.

00:54:34.748 --> 00:54:48.485
Um, a lot of the guys were smart, went down to casablanca, which which is right down the street and warmed up, but yeah, I played okay and didn't need a warm-up, so I normally play better without warming up anyways.

00:54:52.257 --> 00:54:56.375
Yeah, it was crazy because they sent us off at 8.30.

00:54:56.375 --> 00:54:58.599
They had everybody leave at like 8.

00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.563
15 to go out to the course.

00:55:00.563 --> 00:55:06.903
There's nobody on the back, so the guys get to 18 and play it really fast.

00:55:06.903 --> 00:55:20.630
But they had two groups in front of us, an 8 10 and an 8 20, and the guys did not like clear the way for us to tee off until like 8 33 and so we're leaving.

00:55:20.630 --> 00:55:26.123
Joe's group is behind us and then two more groups are pulling up to the one t.

00:55:26.123 --> 00:55:28.128
You know I get like four holes in.

00:55:28.128 --> 00:55:29.478
Stephen jackson sends me a message.

00:55:29.478 --> 00:55:31.943
There's five groups on the number one t right now.

00:55:31.943 --> 00:55:41.668
You know, and it's just, it's like, you know you, you got 70 fucking players coming and they're going backwards.

00:55:41.668 --> 00:55:47.927
You know shotgun, you can't give us a little gap and hey, let's not put that 820 guys out right now.

00:55:47.967 --> 00:55:49.777
You know I, I will say they.

00:55:49.777 --> 00:55:59.525
They did not do a very good job at um pacing or pace or putting players where they needed to, and maybe they've never seen that out there.

00:55:59.525 --> 00:56:07.228
I mean, mesquite is not a large town Like the only other groups that are coming out there, like maybe like KGA or you know.

00:56:07.228 --> 00:56:28.282
I am sure SNGA has been out there at some point, but like that we had a lot of players, you know, and for them to put double up on every hole and then to put players out on the first hole when we're supposed to go out, not, not good, not good, and I thought the round was going to be six hours.

00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:31.126
And now we finished in five.

00:56:31.126 --> 00:56:32.614
Yeah, we finished in 450.

00:56:33.255 --> 00:56:36.733
Yeah, we were just past that, but I thought it was going to be a longer round.

00:56:36.733 --> 00:56:45.572
And that was at the moment where there was no wind and it was like 102 degrees and I was just like I'm about to die.

00:56:45.572 --> 00:56:51.570
I drank probably two gallons of water, a couple liquid ivs and you know.

00:56:51.570 --> 00:56:54.335
I think I think number one opening hole.

00:56:54.335 --> 00:56:55.336
I think it's a good hole.

00:56:55.336 --> 00:56:56.778
I think number two is a good hole.

00:56:56.778 --> 00:57:03.228
I think three is a great drivable par four that's like the palm springs hole.

00:57:03.447 --> 00:57:06.981
Yeah, no, I like I said, I like the front, I think the palm springs.

00:57:06.981 --> 00:57:10.614
Oh, that looks just like palm springs you every golf course.

00:57:10.675 --> 00:57:13.521
You must be playing in the mountains and spending more money.

00:57:13.521 --> 00:57:18.916
Um, no, and, and I think I think 10 is too wolf creaky.

00:57:18.916 --> 00:57:27.583
I do believe that I think 11 is a little Wolf creaky, but I think it's fun with the option to go after the green and one of our players hit the green.

00:57:27.583 --> 00:57:30.347
I think that's a risk or ward hole.

00:57:30.347 --> 00:57:33.989
I think 12, that downhill, I think it gives you a great view.

00:57:33.989 --> 00:57:39.454
That's the most dramatic hole in the back view.

00:57:39.454 --> 00:57:40.380
That's the most dramatic hole in the back.

00:57:40.380 --> 00:57:46.105
Um, you know, and if, if you, you have to hit it left and there's a bunker there and there's water to the left, and if you play it right safer play you have to hit a big old cut around the mountain to get there.

00:57:46.105 --> 00:57:49.436
On two, I think they've destroyed 13 for sure.

00:57:49.436 --> 00:57:58.827
Um, I think 14 is a good par three downhill, uh, basic, basic, uh, what is that?

00:57:58.827 --> 00:58:05.422
14, 15 uphill, that's a tough, very tough hole, especially as most of us play into the wind dead in the wind.

00:58:06.083 --> 00:58:06.304
I had.

00:58:06.304 --> 00:58:08.351
I had driver nine iron thursday.

00:58:08.351 --> 00:58:20.150
I had driver five iron friday or saturday and jeremy saw that five iron, it was I think it was glorious yeah, I, I mean, I think it has some character.

00:58:20.371 --> 00:58:23.920
I mean, obviously like there are better golf courses out there.

00:58:23.920 --> 00:59:01.677
I think it's fun, I think it forces you to hit shots, I think it's um not as crazy as wolf creek and it's a little more crazy than conestoga, um, but yeah, I, I think in non-tournament settings, if you're playing with your buddies and you're just having a good time, I think it's a very fun golf course to play oh yeah, the guys in front of us were having a blast exactly they were fucking hammered and because they had more fun than you uh, no, they didn't, because they they were feeling that later on that night and

00:59:01.717 --> 00:59:18.163
if they slept in a mesquite bedroom or hotel room, they weren't very happy either well, one of the guys was climbing around in the dirt and fell and then after that for like three holes he was limping, so yeah yeah, it was a rough time yeah.

00:59:18.182 --> 00:59:26.402
And then we saw a guy hit his tee shot into a net that was parallel to the tee box at the back of a house.

00:59:26.402 --> 00:59:28.065
Yeah, it was a par three.

00:59:28.065 --> 00:59:30.163
He hit it 90 degrees Right.

00:59:30.163 --> 00:59:39.302
His buddy hit a ball that hit the house after that house and then went in a drunken stupor and dropped his pants and hit.

00:59:39.302 --> 00:59:49.541
Uh just yeah, it was a shit show we had we had that in front of us all day, yeah.

00:59:49.601 --> 00:59:57.686
So, uh, next year in mesquite, we'll have to figure out if we're gonna, you know, maybe do oasis casablanca, or uh go somewhere else.

00:59:58.429 --> 01:00:02.501
I do want to play the Canyons or Palmer course, because I've never played either of those.

01:00:02.501 --> 01:00:03.222
They're fun.

01:00:03.835 --> 01:00:13.708
Oh, and Jeremy and I, afterwards, we drove by Coyote Willows the little nine-hole course on the east side of the 15.

01:00:13.708 --> 01:00:15.500
Looked pretty cool.

01:00:16.081 --> 01:00:16.302
Yeah.

01:00:16.655 --> 01:00:17.539
Looked pretty cool.

01:00:17.539 --> 01:00:21.081
Everything shuts down at 2 o'clock and I mean it was shut down.

01:00:21.081 --> 01:00:22.940
There was nobody there 2 o'clock.

01:00:22.940 --> 01:00:24.324
2 o'clock.

01:00:24.324 --> 01:00:25.800
Last tee time of the day it was 1.30.

01:00:26.463 --> 01:00:26.704
Oh no.

01:00:27.735 --> 01:00:29.603
We were going to try and go play it, but no.

01:00:30.795 --> 01:00:32.436
The retirees don't play in the heat.

01:00:32.978 --> 01:00:33.117
Mm-mm.

01:00:33.137 --> 01:00:33.838
No Well the same thing, wolf.

01:00:34.579 --> 01:00:35.121
Well, the same thing.

01:00:35.121 --> 01:00:35.641
Wolf Creek.

01:00:35.641 --> 01:00:39.045
Last tee time of the day was 2 o'clock.

01:00:39.045 --> 01:00:41.389
No twilight rates, full pop 2 o'clock.

01:00:41.389 --> 01:00:42.329
Last group out.

01:00:43.815 --> 01:00:45.016
Interesting.

01:00:45.838 --> 01:00:47.840
That's Mesquite for you, miles.

01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.827
What's the sleeper course outside of Paiute in Vegas?

01:00:51.827 --> 01:00:56.583
Outside of Paiute, sleeper course Coyote.

01:00:59.978 --> 01:01:01.018
Coyote, yeahoyote.

01:01:02.041 --> 01:01:02.742
Yeah, highland Falls.

01:01:02.742 --> 01:01:03.922
I like Highland Falls National.

01:01:03.922 --> 01:01:05.465
That's where the retirees hang out.

01:01:05.545 --> 01:01:07.507
nowadays I heard the Highland Falls course.

01:01:07.507 --> 01:01:10.170
It's a sun sitting at them.

01:01:12.387 --> 01:01:13.476
Senior community Matt.

01:01:18.704 --> 01:01:19.467
What are you trying to say?

01:01:19.467 --> 01:01:23.061
You know what I'm trying to say.

01:01:23.081 --> 01:01:30.583
I way funner way funner than falcon ridge way funner.

01:01:30.583 --> 01:01:36.456
And I, hey, I, as soon as I played it I told you I'm like fuck, I can't believe I waited this long to play that course.

01:01:36.617 --> 01:01:48.186
It's a that is a fun golf course if I, if people came into las vegas and they asked me like sleeper courses besides piute in the area, I would not say highland falls ever.

01:01:51.384 --> 01:01:53.690
I think it's it's it's, you get a lot of good views.

01:01:53.690 --> 01:01:55.175
It's not crazy expensive.

01:01:55.175 --> 01:01:57.862
The course is in decent shape.

01:01:57.862 --> 01:01:59.266
Does that make it a sleeper course?

01:01:59.266 --> 01:02:01.780
Well, shadow Creek.

01:02:03.063 --> 01:02:09.501
Yeah, sleeper course is not a lot of people know about and not a lot of people are going.

01:02:10.255 --> 01:02:10.978
That's impossible.

01:02:11.038 --> 01:02:18.724
in this town there's three million people you could book a tea time at Coyote Springs for tomorrow morning at 6 am, probably right now.

01:02:19.896 --> 01:02:20.920
That's not Vegas.

01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.974
Though he said Vegas, he didn't say the surrounding areas.

01:02:24.356 --> 01:02:27.362
If we're talking to Miles, Miles will travel to golf.

01:02:27.762 --> 01:02:29.186
Of course he went with us to Paran.

01:02:29.586 --> 01:02:33.403
Yeah, exactly, you can't tell Miles to go to Highland Falls.

01:02:33.403 --> 01:02:35.398
You got to tell Miles to go to Coyote.

01:02:35.398 --> 01:02:37.463
I'm sure he's played Coyote.

01:02:37.463 --> 01:02:38.885
He hasn't.

01:02:38.885 --> 01:02:40.228
I'm pretty sure he has not.

01:02:40.228 --> 01:02:40.891
What, what?

01:02:42.056 --> 01:02:45.744
I was thinking he's played courses that he hasn't played.

01:02:45.744 --> 01:02:47.088
That's what I was thinking.

01:02:47.088 --> 01:02:49.380
I think he would enjoy Highland Falls.

01:02:49.380 --> 01:02:50.425
The views are great.

01:02:52.215 --> 01:03:00.869
The architecture and Miles has some knowledge in golf course stuff.

01:03:02.018 --> 01:03:03.643
So I would send Miles to Coyote.

01:03:03.643 --> 01:03:04.646
He can't enjoy it.

01:03:05.335 --> 01:03:05.777
He can.

01:03:05.777 --> 01:03:16.722
Yeah, absolutely yeah, I know he can, but if you're going to ask, if you're going to tell somebody with that IQ of golf to go to Highland Falls, you're completely wrong.

01:03:19.579 --> 01:03:20.684
I still think he would enjoy it.

01:03:21.005 --> 01:03:22.619
He wouldn't, I wasn't recommending that.

01:03:22.735 --> 01:03:25.963
I was just saying I think he would enjoy it.

01:03:25.963 --> 01:03:26.505
Yeah National.

01:03:26.846 --> 01:03:27.146
National.

01:03:27.146 --> 01:03:28.800
National is great too.

01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.983
I just think a lot of people don't know that coyotes there, a lot of people, because there's nothing there.

01:03:34.983 --> 01:03:38.679
There's nothing there that people would know other than a golf course.

01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.443
Yeah, you know what I mean.

01:03:41.443 --> 01:03:42.826
I'll have to find out.

01:03:42.826 --> 01:03:48.603
Let's open up a convenience store and sell beef jerky random golf course.

01:03:48.664 --> 01:03:57.699
Have them do a coyote springs and see what kind of comments we get they probably have one, but that's also the type of place where it's like you want to get your ass whooped.

01:03:57.699 --> 01:04:00.384
You know it's like you're.

01:04:00.384 --> 01:04:01.865
You're gonna send right people there.

01:04:02.746 --> 01:04:17.228
You're gonna, yeah, hey, I do want to give a shout out before we get out of here to Sunday Swagger and the Golf Fathers, because they had a contest or a raffle that they were given away and they drew a name and dude didn't follow the rules.

01:04:17.228 --> 01:04:23.891
Got to follow the rules, got to follow like, and he did not do those, so they drew another name.

01:04:23.891 --> 01:04:30.260
Yep, well done, I won.

01:04:30.260 --> 01:04:31.764
I follow like and, uh, he did not do those, so they drew another name.

01:04:31.764 --> 01:04:32.226
Yep, well done, I won.

01:04:32.226 --> 01:04:32.525
I had rocky on.

01:04:32.525 --> 01:04:33.347
I said it was gonna happen.

01:04:33.347 --> 01:04:33.588
It happened.

01:04:33.608 --> 01:04:46.525
I just manifested, you know my own destiny um so since joe and dan um didn't tell either jeremy or myself about little LA trip and we're keeping that a secret, well, there's also an update on that.

01:04:46.780 --> 01:04:50.786
Ray fucked it up for all of us who yeah, ray.

01:04:51.268 --> 01:04:51.608
You don't know.

01:04:51.648 --> 01:04:51.829
Ray.

01:04:51.829 --> 01:04:53.070
Ray El Ray.

01:04:53.070 --> 01:04:54.934
The Ray El Ray.

01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:56.824
Ray's my coworker.

01:04:56.824 --> 01:05:02.532
He he requested the time off.

01:05:02.532 --> 01:05:05.106
Beat me to it, so no.

01:05:05.106 --> 01:05:06.068
California trip for me.

01:05:06.068 --> 01:05:08.786
Where were you going to play?

01:05:11.164 --> 01:05:12.248
Rustic industry.

01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:14.442
Dan who's Jenna Palmer.

01:05:16.023 --> 01:05:20.349
Hi Jenna, friend of mine, dan's a great guy.

01:05:25.804 --> 01:05:27.628
He's the homie he hasn't been to to jail.

01:05:27.648 --> 01:05:40.271
no, doesn't know what this is in jail so, uh, I don't know where that came from, but don't we can't even go into that, because the people that get it will get it, but other than that, yeah, we'll talk after this yeah, jeremy, we're during the show.

01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:45.626
Last week I keep on seeing these messages pop out that Joe's messaging people on Instagram going oh, we'll be in LA soon.

01:05:45.626 --> 01:05:46.509
Yeah, we'll be in LA soon.

01:05:46.509 --> 01:05:47.389
Yeah, let's go play.

01:05:47.389 --> 01:05:49.472
Let's go play and I'm like the fuck is this?

01:05:50.054 --> 01:05:51.496
And she was like oh yeah, well.

01:05:52.902 --> 01:05:56.972
Dan and I are going to go play rustic and a private course with some.

01:05:56.972 --> 01:06:01.126
I'm like.

01:06:01.887 --> 01:06:02.367
Oh, I see.

01:06:02.367 --> 01:06:06.815
So, we canceled the hotel Saturday Rustic we canceled.

01:06:06.815 --> 01:06:09.202
Derek was supposed to come Canceled.

01:06:09.202 --> 01:06:09.885
I'd let him know.

01:06:09.885 --> 01:06:12.487
We couldn't cancel Monday night.

01:06:12.487 --> 01:06:17.028
So me and Trey got our own little private suites at La Quinta in Moreno Valley, California.

01:06:17.028 --> 01:06:25.925
We're going to be doing it up, we'll probably eat portillos for dinner and then we're going to play with Mr DeAnda Tuesdayuesday and then heading straight back.

01:06:25.965 --> 01:06:38.170
So yeah, so uh jeremy jeremy and I are gonna go play cascada on sunday swaggers sunday swaggers uh, dime so that'll be fun.

01:06:39.152 --> 01:06:40.621
Are they gonna join you, or is it just?

01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:41.543
uh, rocky is.

01:06:41.543 --> 01:06:44.650
I don't know if anybody else is, but rocky is, yeah, sweet.

01:06:44.650 --> 01:06:50.152
So we're gonna set that up next week sometime, maybe sweet, looking forward to that.

01:06:50.152 --> 01:06:54.344
We got valley high coming up, yeah, uh, next week.

01:06:54.344 --> 01:07:18.554
And I hope my hand is like 100 soon oh dude, I I I went to uh dr dumbler yesterday and got the full workup on the knee and uh looking forward to a couple more sessions with him, because it's uh doing a lot better today, that's for sure yeah, yeah, he knows what he's doing, oh I.

01:07:18.855 --> 01:07:19.356
I had some.

01:07:19.356 --> 01:07:29.967
It was like so cool being there and, like you said, having somebody that knows golf treat your injury from a golfer's perspective was amazing.

01:07:29.967 --> 01:07:36.690
I'm either going to have a brand new knee or we're taking a handicap cart to Bandon.

01:07:36.690 --> 01:07:42.126
That's where I'm at Full robotic knee replacement handicap cart at Bandon.

01:07:42.126 --> 01:07:43.552
You better get that robot knee repaired quick.

01:07:43.552 --> 01:07:45.219
Full robotic knee replacement handicap card abandoned.

01:07:45.820 --> 01:07:49.527
You better get that robot knee repaired quick because it's abandoned.

01:07:49.527 --> 01:07:50.568
It's very soon.

01:07:51.230 --> 01:07:53.434
Yes, I know yeah, so I'll.

01:07:53.434 --> 01:07:56.347
I'll be filling out the handicap cart request forms.

01:07:58.875 --> 01:07:58.954
I?

01:07:58.954 --> 01:08:03.630
I mean, I've only been there twice and I've never seen anybody in a cart.

01:08:03.900 --> 01:08:06.018
I have, you have, oh yeah, yeah, there's, it's very rare mean I've only been there twice and I've never seen anybody in a cart.

01:08:06.018 --> 01:08:18.292
I have, you have, oh yeah, yeah, there's it's very rare it's very rare yeah they don't like them, but uh, yeah, I've seen them out there speaking of ben jeremy, how deep are you into that book?

01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:19.962
I dropped the book off to jeremy.

01:08:20.664 --> 01:08:23.270
Dream golf uh 10 chapters in.

01:08:23.270 --> 01:08:32.748
Oh, wow, you, yeah, dude, I've learned so much about um the beginnings of that course and like his property in Michigan.

01:08:32.748 --> 01:08:33.430
It's crazy I had.

01:08:33.430 --> 01:08:43.850
I had no idea that he was I just figured he was like a, a golf person from from the beginning, but he like owning a greeting card company.

01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:46.966
It's just so you know about the dunes club.

01:08:46.966 --> 01:08:50.929
Yep, I want to play that really badly yeah.

01:08:52.280 --> 01:08:54.006
It's fascinating, for sure.

01:08:54.488 --> 01:08:55.229
All right, let's see what.

01:08:55.229 --> 01:09:02.305
Uh, if we got any results on the uh poll, uh, four votes, uh, 50% of the people love it.

01:09:02.305 --> 01:09:03.229
50% of the people love it.

01:09:03.229 --> 01:09:04.713
50% said no hate it.

01:09:04.713 --> 01:09:05.155
Stop it.

01:09:05.155 --> 01:09:13.965
That something new we're doing maybe we'll have a better question next week.

01:09:15.765 --> 01:09:20.655
I asked Joe for help on that one and I gave him a lot of options and he picked none of them.

01:09:20.978 --> 01:09:25.925
Yeah ramble, ramble, blabble, blabble, ramble, dog walks.

01:09:25.925 --> 01:09:33.005
I was like, nope, not doing it.

01:09:33.005 --> 01:09:43.025
Ah, uh, so the memorials this weekend, scotty scheffler's going for another jacket, uh, to complete his collection.

01:09:43.025 --> 01:09:46.472
Oh, I had no idea what the poll meant so I skipped it.

01:09:46.472 --> 01:09:47.454
Sorry, jenna.

01:09:47.475 --> 01:09:48.055
Shout out, Jenna.

01:09:48.637 --> 01:09:48.797
Yeah.

01:09:50.702 --> 01:09:52.091
Hey, it's milkshake week.

01:09:53.057 --> 01:09:54.565
Yes, Get ready to see milkshakes.

01:09:54.565 --> 01:09:56.447
Yep milkshake week.

01:09:56.981 --> 01:10:05.226
A lot of Jack Yep His place Memorial's always really good, though it's always really good.

01:10:05.426 --> 01:10:05.908
Patrick can't.

01:10:05.908 --> 01:10:08.447
He's gonna win, probably because he always wins.

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John rom's not there to try and win, I don't know.

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It's good field elevated event right before major guys getting dialed.

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It's gonna be good, uh, jeremy's next week right other day weekend, can yeah?

01:10:22.952 --> 01:10:31.939
Yeah, that's right yeah not just coming again the weekend excited for pinehurst yeah, uh, dan and jeremy, I don't know if you guys know, but we're.

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We have a fantasy league that you guys are part of, that you haven't like anything for a while, so yeah it's been a minute, do that, so yeah work gets in the way I had the where's where to go, yeah, so, um, I dropped a little bit this week.

01:10:47.881 --> 01:10:53.813
Uh, joe is falling fast yeah, I didn't check if I had any players best cut.

01:10:53.832 --> 01:11:06.172
But uh, yeah, you, I think you had a guy dq after the first round and so yeah, there's joe and six cow dan, hey dan, you're not too far back, it's not.

01:11:06.172 --> 01:11:10.306
It's not bad dan considering how many times you haven't entered it.

01:11:10.426 --> 01:11:13.052
Yeah, I haven't done it like the last, like month.

01:11:13.440 --> 01:11:21.462
Yeah, no, there's jeremy, still lingering jeremy last place hey, you play three weeks and you'll be back up in the top 10.

01:11:21.582 --> 01:11:24.692
Some people completely gave up.

01:11:27.505 --> 01:11:39.841
I don't know if Conor still has it Inside the Leather podcast Inside the Leather they went to, inside the Superstroke Gone Gone.

01:11:39.841 --> 01:11:43.108
Come on, guys, you were a good show, bring it back, bring it back.

01:11:43.108 --> 01:11:45.520
I got nothing else.

01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:46.302
You guys got anything else.

01:11:46.403 --> 01:11:55.608
Dan, you got any words of wisdom for your trip um yeah, if you're interested in uh golfing in michigan, do it, just do it.

01:11:55.608 --> 01:11:57.412
Whatever it is, what course?

01:11:57.412 --> 01:11:59.243
Whatever it is, you want to, just do it, do it.

01:11:59.262 --> 01:12:09.645
You won't regret it, just do it unless they have a highland falls there because apparently that's a horrible place to play golf I want to go play pilgrims.

01:12:09.645 --> 01:12:22.859
Run too yeah, your list of places you want to play is long yeah, very, very, very, very long yeah, yeah, van life's coming for me, so Van life's coming for me.

01:12:22.859 --> 01:12:24.743
So Knocking off a bunch.

01:12:24.743 --> 01:12:29.753
Yeah, oh yeah, launch All right, joe.

01:12:30.041 --> 01:12:34.694
Asking us to join VGN tournaments in fucking Oklahoma and Iowa.

01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:40.228
It's going to be the VGN mobile tour yeah, coming to Saskatchewan.

01:12:40.228 --> 01:12:43.043
Anybody want to play?

01:12:43.043 --> 01:12:45.675
Yeah, let's tee it up.

01:12:45.675 --> 01:12:46.250
You know, hey, you want to play?

01:12:46.250 --> 01:12:47.716
Eh, yeah, let's tee it up, you know, eh, you want to play?

01:12:47.716 --> 01:12:50.082
Eh, eh, we can play some ball, eh.

01:12:50.082 --> 01:12:53.949
All right, joe, bring it home, do your thing.

01:12:55.032 --> 01:12:58.003
Hey guys, I'm coming to you live eh.

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Hey guys, what's your stay?

01:12:59.970 --> 01:13:04.511
Eh, I'm coming to you from the van in Saskatchewan.

01:13:04.511 --> 01:13:08.055
Hey, I'm coming to you from the van in Saskatchewan.

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Hey, thanks for tuning in eh.

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Grab some tacos, grab yourself a bean and cheese burrito and, hey, got shirts.

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So they're cool, they have, they have Riz, you, you, you never had mad rivers in the hitting greens teas.

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Um, but yeah, until next week it's Taco Tuesday.

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Enrique.

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Jermaine, jermaine, jermaine Poblano.

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Poblano Jermaine.

01:14:17.822 --> 01:14:23.636
Poblano fits because chili rellenos are made of Poblano peppers, so that works Jermaine Poblano.

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Jermaine Poblano.

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Jermaine Poblano.

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Founder of 7-Eleven.

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Yeah man Created the egg salad sandwich in 1961 in Omaha.

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Nebraska, jermaine Poblano.

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Owned a chicken farm and he just threw them in water that was boiling and accidentally created the seven, 11 egg salad sandwich.

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Jermaine Poblano the man, the myth, the legend.

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Write that down there.

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He is right there.

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Hey.

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Jermaine Poblano is the man.

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But hey, make sure you get out there, play some golf, enjoy yourself, do what you want to do if you get the opportunity to play golf.

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If you want to buy something, buy it.

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Don't listen to anybody.

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Be you and enjoy yourself and be Jermaine Poblano.

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Jermaine, JP later Jaine Till next week Later.

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JP Later.

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Thank you.