Dec. 13, 2023

252: Golf Talk with David "Doc" Rhoden from New Level Golf

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This revealing installment features esteemed guest, David "Doc" Rhoden from New Level Golf, who lifts the curtain on golf club fitting and building. and what's going on with the brand. We talk about everything from spinning ferrules to potential changes on the PGA tour. But things really heat up when we broach the idea of a tournament where players are all using the same equipment. Sounds interesting, right? Join us as we uncover the truth about professional players' equipment versus what's available to the average consumer.

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00:10 - Golf World Updates and Player Departures

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29:29 - Equipment Differences for Tour Pros and Average Golfers

34:59 - Importance of Golf Equipment Fitting

46:33 - Transition to New Golf Club Products

59:18 - Tiger and Charlie Woods Impressions

01:07:40 - Golf Club Recommendations and Updates

01:17:10 - Planning a Golf Trip to Arizona

Transcript
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There we go.

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All right, welcome everybody to this episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast.

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Music will be playing on the YouTube.

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Edit Riverside is not participating with us in a friendly manner, so, yeah, check out the intro music on YouTube.

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So, hey, we got a great episode tonight.

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There's a lot of shit going on in the golf world.

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The golf ball rollback is taken front and stage center, along with John Rom leaving Tony Finao staying tiger and Charlie.

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Part two is happening this week down in the PNC champion.

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Is it in Florida?

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Yeah, it's in Orlando, orlando.

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So that's going on.

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Freddie was talking trash again about live, which I thought was hilarious, and we've got a special guest, doc Rodin, dave Rodin, live from the new level, true links where headquarters?

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Yes sir.

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Welcome to the show sir, thank you?

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How are you doing?

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Doing all right Even better?

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Doc's going to hang out with us tonight.

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Chalo golf.

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He's a great insider when it comes to the industry, Of course.

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He's, you know, works at new level and is one of the builders fitters out there.

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So if anybody that's, you know, on YouTube right now hanging with us, if you have any questions about new level, about club fitting, about club building in general, anything like that, lob them out there and Joe and I will get them over to him and he can answer your questions Absolutely.

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He loves talking about how good he is at building golf clubs, because he's really good at building Master, mastermind.

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I get lucky every once in a while.

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All right, so wrong have you ever had any feral spin.

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You ever got any spinning feral, not in a long time.

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It's new technology, it has happened right, it has right.

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It has.

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I'm not the only person that has ever built a set of iron, for the feral came loose.

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No, thank you.

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I just thought it was new technology man.

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We did.

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We did have a guy one time come in at another place that I worked at that had that new SFT technology the summer feral technology.

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Oh yeah, the feral was four sizes too big for the golf club.

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Those were awesome.

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Wow, they didn't participate in the Mitchell turning feral class apparently.

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Evidently.

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Evidently, hey.

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Did you guys see those ones I posted today for Steve and Jackson's irons?

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I did not yeah the metal ones.

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They're like a lightweight brushed aluminum that are milled.

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Are they?

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Maybe an afterno.

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No, no, no, they're from overseas.

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They look like they're made by swag.

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Well, that's why he got them, because they you know, he's Mr Swag.

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So yeah, wow, super crazy light.

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I mean they're probably.

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I didn't weigh one, but it's got to be maybe a gram.

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It's so fucking light, but it looks like machine metal.

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It's, it's, it's really.

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They came out pretty good, so I'm building that up for them tomorrow Hopefully they don't spin.

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Well, they've got what looks like threads on the inside of them, so yeah, I'll be applying plenty of proxy on those to make sure they don't.

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They'll stay put.

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Yeah, so all right.

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John Rom Bailed.

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Everybody kind of saw it coming.

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I don't think any of us said no, he's not going.

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Last week and then so I put out there on our IG page who do you think's going next?

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And surprisingly enough, a lot of the people said it was going to be Tony Fina.

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Everybody thinks Patrick Cantley is gone, and and is it him that he's buddies with Fina or was it Xander, xander, xander, that's Xander.

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Yeah, but Tony, I'm not going.

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Hashtag announced that.

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Was that this morning or yesterday?

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I can't.

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Yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, yeah.

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So don't big big tone Sticking around on the PGA tour.

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That's.

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That's a positive for the PGA tour.

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Haven't had a lot of positives in the news of late.

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I wouldn't be surprised still, though, because those Rom and Fina are good buddies and they play silver leaf all the time.

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And I would not be surprised because John Rom said he wasn't leaving either, and X number of months later, here we are, I think.

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I do, john Rom.

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John Rom didn't post with the hashtag.

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I'm not leaving, I'm not leaving.

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Yeah, but he was pretty strong with his opinions in the interviews.

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But that was a year or two years ago.

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Yeah.

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But you know it's all good and you go.

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there's a lot of you and Maui Totally.

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Yeah, I think John Rom knows something that can't be explained.

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Yeah, maybe, yeah.

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I think that one is.

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I think the changes are going to be the 72 holes.

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They're going to do something where they're going to get some road golf ranking.

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I don't think he's just going to write.

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He's one of those guys that's just going to be like dude, if you're going to pay me this much and you want me to play over there, this is what's got to happen.

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So I think there will be some changes that just haven't happened yet.

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But it, I don't know the whole, their whole premise of why they're better is because it's 54 holes, because it's three days, because it's a.

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You know it's different.

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And if they just, if it's just another golf tour, what, besides the money that's there's?

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well, they got a qualifier now, right, didn't?

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Didn't you see some of the PGA tour players, or cornfairy players, go to play in the qualifier and then they got reprimanded for going into the qualifier?

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Did you see that?

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I don't recall that, yeah, like yeah, it was the other day and they thought it was okay because it was merged or whatever.

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And they got like rep reprimanded for going to play in the qualifier.

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Merged, well, I know, but that's what they thought.

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But the but, the, the, the thing from the tour since the June 6 thing is that we are merging.

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So it all comes back to that.

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Yeah, you know, zero clarification, totally.

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There's nothing since then.

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So these people are thinking that we're merging, we're like one, we're one entity kind of or that's the problem.

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They were thinking it's company be whatever they're going to call it, and yeah yeah, call your player rep and go.

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Can I play in this?

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No, okay.

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Well, I think I think these players probably need to follow.

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What is that Monday queue?

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Info at Monday queue.

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They need to just follow him because he's got the inside information, obviously, yeah.

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I mean, I've heard a couple people saying lives not going anywhere, the the money is sustainable for them, they don't care.

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I just don't know.

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I don't, I don't get it.

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Doc, you can answer this, because I've asked.

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I've said this a couple times on the show.

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Okay, why do you care about OWG rankings?

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If you, if live is so much better and it's a better way of life and it's better money and it's better everything, why do you care about the OWG are?

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And if it's just to get into majors, then that's the choice you made.

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It's live is so much better.

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Who cares?

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Yeah, why do you?

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care.

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I would agree with you to a point on that.

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I think majors are a big part of it for a lot of those guys.

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I think for years now we've kind of decided what is great and what is not great by the amount of majors that they've won right.

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The conversation every time we talk about Tiger versus Jack is Jack's got more majors right Every single time.

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So I think there's a lot of those guys that want to leave their mark on the game.

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As far as being a great and regular tour events aren't the thing that separates those people from the greats right.

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So getting into majors, winning majors, I think, is a big part of that.

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That said, outside of that, I couldn't tell you, I couldn't give you an honest answer.

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I mean, I don't live as a ranger.

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The lifestyle is outrageous.

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Yeah, Rom's in the masters.

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For the rest of his life.

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He never has to worry about that one.

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He's in the next five years of majors.

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So he's not going anywhere as far as the majors go.

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So him leaving now to go get a huge paycheck, totally understand.

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Absolutely.

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Stop it with the OWGR, just fucking stop.

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Go play your live golf, be happy there.

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I mean, how many major champions are playing on live now?

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I mean you've got Keppler, you've got John Brown, you've got.

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I mean you've got to watch the guys that are able to play.

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You've got this combination of people that are able to go play in the majors anyway.

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I think it's the guys that you know the Paparezz is the, you know, guys like that need the points to qualify for those things because they've never won one right.

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That's, I think, the separation between the top of the line with guys and, you know, the everyday, regular people.

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The Paparezz is not a player that's going to leave a mark on the game.

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I'm not going to disagree with him.

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Yeah, and he made more money this year on live than he ever did on the PGA tours.

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I know, I mean I don't have the data, but I'm not going to disagree with him.

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Yeah, no, made a killing.

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So why the fuck would he care about OWGR?

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Why, hey?

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I can go play and finish last and make more money.

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You know I just it's a pretty good game, if you can get it, I think.

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Yeah, I think so yeah.

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I'm still waiting on Michael man.

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I don't know about you guys.

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I'm down to play anytime.

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Absolutely, Absolutely.

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I'll take the plane right.

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I can shoot 18 over really easy, really easy.

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Every day of the week.

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There's quite a few that do that on live, so you know yeah.

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I think the biggest thing for me is is like these guys are going over there and saying that they're growing the game, which is just straight up horseshit yeah.

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Did you see that video where the like people are like say it, john, say it John.

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Say it John, you could grow in the game, yeah.

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You could argue?

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though you could argue that growing the game is a lot, you could be interpreted in different ways.

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Yeah, there's people that like the atmosphere there, that maybe don't like the stiff golf style, whatever.

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Yeah, but what is growing the game, though?

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Like is it getting a bunch of little kids in the golf, like that's what I feel like it used to be?

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Yeah, for getting minorities or people that maybe don't have that opportunity.

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What's growing the game, though?

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Like it's pretty broad.

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That's a great question.

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Yeah, do we need to define what growing the game is?

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Because everybody uses it, you know.

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Yeah, they do.

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It's really just getting more people to play golf and, if it's what I've always thought, if people that aren't playing.

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get them on the course yeah, if haven't figured out what it is that's so awesome about it, or they don't and and get more people playing golf.

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Okay, we've done that.

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That's the thing.

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Anybody that goes over there saying that is fucking bullshit.

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That's my thing.

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You're not fucking growing the game.

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Like that's why.

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When Harold Harald Varner went over there, like I was all about that because he was like fuck that, it's not the money, it's generational wealth.

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Like that's what I'm doing it for.

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Like I'm not here to grow the game, and that that's what pisses me off, because John Rom dropped the.

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It's growing the game, shit, and that's not fucking true.

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No absolutely.

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I like that.

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We're going to have to define I say that all.

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Put that on an Instagram later.

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Define what growing the game is and we'll see what people say.

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I'm interested to see.

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Jed, if you're listening.

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What do you think?

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Growing the game is yeah.

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Oh, hey, check this out.

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You can see that.

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Who is that?

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The new Rio logo.

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That is the Rio Seco logo.

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On the branded bills.

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Elite hat probably the best golf hat I've ever put on my head.

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Wow, Joe, looks like they took your chippy dice man.

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It's the same thing.

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It's the Chippy.

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Scorpion.

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Fucking thieves man With that thing.

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Great Copyright.

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Right.

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So I was out at Rio Friday last week and man, that place, it drives me nuts because it's it's it's so overpriced but it's, it's a resort course.

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You know, they booked the tourist and shuttle them out there and and they raked those guys over the coals but the course was in fantastic shape and the greens, the greens were A lot faster than so high, like a lot faster than so high, really.

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Yeah, I was Wow.

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I was shocked.

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I was shocked at how fast they were, but it was.

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It was fun putting on it, you know fun and Hell the ball pretty well.

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Of course it's in great shape.

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They fixed a lot of the bunker issues, were you?

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You know the bad areas and certain bunkers didn't.

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Didn't see one.

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That was bad, interesting Nice.

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So if, if you're headed out to Rio anytime soon, you're in for a treat.

00:14:21.407 --> 00:14:23.221
Yeah, we said my name is.

00:14:23.221 --> 00:14:25.760
Yeah, dan is for a solo round tomorrow.

00:14:26.345 --> 00:14:32.524
Nobody else from the podcast is joining him, unfortunately, but nobody, we're looking forward to a report.

00:14:32.524 --> 00:14:35.017
Yeah, fully detailed report Give me time to actually think.

00:14:36.889 --> 00:14:38.275
Yeah, Dan, when was the last time you played golf on a?

00:14:38.918 --> 00:14:42.011
golf course In a few weeks.

00:14:43.998 --> 00:14:48.565
I remember to be honest Wow, maybe, no, what did we play?

00:14:48.565 --> 00:14:50.623
No, maybe coyote.

00:14:50.623 --> 00:14:55.384
I think we're trade like a month ago.

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Wow, wow, yeah, I live at work now, so I retire from golf last month hey, dan, you know I'm a little bit of a fan.

00:15:04.423 --> 00:15:11.417
I'm a little bit of a fan Last month hey, dan, dan works down the Thomas and Mack.

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Unlv, you know definitely want to give our condolences to what took place, to the families that that lost, you know, family members over some fucking moron.

00:15:21.871 --> 00:15:27.716
It's just just stupid shit and you know our heart goes out to them.

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Unlv strong, everybody's doing it.

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We love seeing it.

00:15:31.394 --> 00:15:36.884
This community comes together amazingly for being, you know, so transient.

00:15:36.884 --> 00:15:41.134
It's awesome to see How's the, how's the mood down on campus.

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It's a little somber.

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There's a they've.

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There hasn't really been a whole lot of interaction or anything going on there, because close it down for the president, some of the students that are there living on campus, it's just.

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I think it's.

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I think because and I'm not trying to take anything away from it, but because it was faculty that got that were the victims more than students, it doesn't seem to be like a big student rally for, you know, for their fallen classmates or anything like that.

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Yeah.

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It's.

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It's just more of like what the hell happened, you know.

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I mean like how could this happen?

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Type of down there.

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And yeah, like you said, hearts go out to the victims family.

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How it?

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definitely could have been so much worse than it was.

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Like how about just getting there 78 seconds yeah?

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78 seconds.

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Took him in it, engaged with that guy.

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That's awesome.

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It's just, yeah, it's just a weird freak thing and it sucks, it sucks, it happens a lot.

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It's, it's terrible thing.

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Yeah, we've had some bad shit going on the NHP troopers that got killed by the drunk driver.

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That's a wild story, yeah it's own and this.

00:17:04.992 --> 00:17:08.825
So, ah, we shall, we shall persevere.

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You know, it will happen, though We'll keep running.

00:17:13.961 --> 00:17:16.461
Rebels running, run and rebel, all right.

00:17:16.461 --> 00:17:24.759
So any anybody heard anything new about anybody leaving to go play live.

00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:32.375
Just rumors Doc you come up to Vegas for the for the event here.

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When is it?

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Super Bowl weekend.

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Unfortunately not.

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You know what else happens Super Bowl weekend.

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Oh yeah, just a little party in the desert and yeah, that happens to be in my backyard.

00:17:50.554 --> 00:17:53.498
Yeah, and why is there?

00:17:53.659 --> 00:17:58.074
a whole of players playing in that, so I probably have to be here Nice.

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You mean you don't want to see John Rom take on Las Vegas Country Club?

00:18:04.108 --> 00:18:05.473
I, you know I would love to.

00:18:05.473 --> 00:18:08.865
Having played Las Vegas Country Club, I would love to go see that dude.

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He's 43 under for four days.

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Right yeah, they're going to eat that shit up.

00:18:15.712 --> 00:18:17.277
Yeah, what's that?

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What's that long?

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Or part three on the back.

00:18:24.634 --> 00:18:25.696
Yeah, yeah, yeah Great.

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Oh, I remember I hit four iron into that green a lot and these guys are going to be hitting seven iron.

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Yeah, yeah, get out of here, it's going to be ridiculous.

00:18:36.523 --> 00:18:39.952
So, hey, something that you you may, because you've played so high too, right yeah?

00:18:42.085 --> 00:18:43.528
Um, they have reduced the fairway.

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They have reduced the fairway.

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They have reduced the fairways on that course by like 40%.

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Really, it is almost impossible to hit a fairway there now.

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Really it, the our buddy, steve, uh, cattyed for us out there and he said that it's.

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It's easily added five strokes to the course.

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Uh, it wouldn't surprise me.

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It wouldn't surprise me, it is amazing.

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The amount of long grass on that golf course now.

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Yeah.

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I was wild, I was lucky enough.

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when I was in Vegas I got to play twice and the first round I played it was it's not super targeting, but it was very um, you kind of have to play once to know where you can get away with stuff.

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And there was being a first time player out there.

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There was like a lot of people that were like, oh, I'm going to play for a first time player out there.

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There was a lot of shots and I hit.

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Well, that we're just gone Right.

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So you put you narrow those fairways even more and if they decide to let it grow out a little bit and get that rough, that's they did, they did.

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That is a hard golf course at that point.

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I hope that they let it get thick, for the Southern High was collegiate and just cause we played from the back to ease and I mean, did you sniff a fairway?

00:20:14.696 --> 00:20:23.375
I mean it was you were, he was and hit great golf shots, that just were in thick Like three fairways yeah.

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It was.

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It was nuts, and golf course is already hard.

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You make it even more narrow and it's brutal.

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It was.

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It was cool to see.

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I mean, that's another thing they can do.

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They don't.

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They don't need to.

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You know, roll the ball back, make golf courses harder.

00:20:38.165 --> 00:20:41.695
Make, make the rustic man, yeah, make people hit fairways.

00:20:42.526 --> 00:20:43.528
Did you see that video?

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That it's like a comedian from like Ireland or something and he was talking about the rollback.

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He was like if you go into the water, you're fine because it's 15 yards shorter.

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And then he's like if you're a putt, if you're putting the ball, you just put it 15 yards past the hole and it'll roll back right in the hole.

00:20:59.807 --> 00:21:03.884
I meant to send it to you guys and then I lost it.

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It was.

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It was pretty funny.

00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:08.257
I mean, I'm not going to roll back, yeah.

00:21:09.690 --> 00:21:14.112
That is funny oh man.

00:21:14.112 --> 00:21:25.836
All right, so but, doc, you want to get in that, you want to get in the rollback and and let let, uh, I mean, do you speak on behalf of new level when you say what you're about to say?

00:21:27.067 --> 00:21:27.971
Or just an independent.

00:21:28.030 --> 00:21:28.432
Okay, good.

00:21:30.165 --> 00:21:33.675
No, I this is doc, not David from new level.

00:21:33.675 --> 00:21:37.884
Okay, I, I see it from both ways.

00:21:37.884 --> 00:21:46.828
I think there's a lot of really cool classic style golf courses that the PGA tour doesn't go to anymore, that I would love to see back in play.

00:21:46.828 --> 00:21:57.336
Um, simply because it's not long enough for those guys anymore, every hole becomes, you know, driver wedge and it's not fun golf to watch.

00:21:57.336 --> 00:21:59.596
It is because you get to see guys, stuff, stuff.

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But I don't think it's as much fun because you don't get to see the carnage that happens in those things.

00:22:04.730 --> 00:22:17.292
Right, I think, opening the door to bring some of those golf courses back, the classic style, parkland style, you know, elevated teams, elevated greens, those golf courses are so much fun to watch those guys play well at.

00:22:17.292 --> 00:22:29.865
But also, when it happens for the mass majority of players, I think you have analyzed guys that already don't hit it very far.

00:22:29.865 --> 00:22:36.467
Um, you've penalized those guys in order to try to affect the top.

00:22:36.467 --> 00:22:39.295
You know, 0.00% of golfers.

00:22:39.295 --> 00:22:43.884
Right, it seems a little bit like golf is already hard.

00:22:43.884 --> 00:22:48.865
You just made it harder on everybody except the pros, and I don't love that idea.

00:22:48.865 --> 00:22:50.865
Um, you know, we see it every day.

00:22:50.865 --> 00:22:56.751
I mean, from the equipment standpoint, golf clubs have gotten easier to hit over the years.

00:22:56.751 --> 00:23:11.804
I mean from straight butter knives to, you know, these big perimeter weighted cavity back hybrid style irons, and nobody really makes a true, true blade anymore, you know, the exception of a handful of people or a handful of companies.

00:23:12.287 --> 00:23:13.571
I think you level one of them.

00:23:15.148 --> 00:23:15.730
We have a blade.

00:23:15.730 --> 00:23:25.535
Yes, to be 100% honest with you, it is Much more forgiving than cavity back irons were 10 years ago.

00:23:25.535 --> 00:23:27.410
It's insane.

00:23:27.410 --> 00:23:28.554
It's insane.

00:23:28.554 --> 00:23:34.473
The amount of movable weight that we're putting in the golf clubs these days is absolutely outrageous.

00:23:34.473 --> 00:23:37.666
And to your point earlier we were speaking kind of before we started here.

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Driver used to be the hardest club in the bag to hit.

00:23:40.494 --> 00:23:41.528
It's the easiest club to hit.

00:23:41.528 --> 00:23:45.051
Now Analyze, missing the sweet spot.

00:23:45.051 --> 00:23:47.760
Yeah, don't roll the golf ball back.

00:23:47.760 --> 00:23:48.765
Use skill right.

00:23:48.765 --> 00:24:00.634
Hit it better and you'll score better, rather than while we're dialing back the golf ball because we don't want to make it where Callaway or Taylor made, or whoever it is, sells four drivers here.

00:24:01.115 --> 00:24:11.652
Yeah, you imagine baseball like having a bat, that it just crushes the ball and they're like you know, let's make the ball softer so it doesn't go as far.

00:24:13.067 --> 00:24:14.630
No, change the bat, yeah.

00:24:14.630 --> 00:24:28.865
Change the bat Right, yeah, yeah, that's been my whole thing is like the equipment is so forgivable right now, like dial that back, you know, like I don't think the golf ball is where it's at.

00:24:28.865 --> 00:24:38.008
It's like reward people that can hit the center of the golf club and not the golf ball, because I think you've already.

00:24:38.249 --> 00:24:40.454
You've already done that with the driver right.

00:24:40.454 --> 00:24:43.855
There's restrictions on how hot that face can be right.

00:24:43.855 --> 00:24:48.912
So these manufacturers have now created it where it's at that limit all the way across the face.

00:24:48.912 --> 00:24:53.535
Now and when it is, there's no penalty for miss hitting it right.

00:24:53.535 --> 00:25:01.094
If you were to make that again less forgiving, make the make the miss more dramatic, throw the rough out around the golf course.

00:25:01.094 --> 00:25:03.865
It's going to encourage guys to hit driver less.

00:25:03.865 --> 00:25:08.884
It's going to encourage hitting the smart shot, hitting the fairways rather than being able to.

00:25:08.884 --> 00:25:11.119
Justin Johnson said at the best one.

00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.892
He was like if I could hit a pitching wedge and everybody else is hitting eight iron, I'm going to hit it closer than you all the time.

00:25:16.653 --> 00:25:16.815
Yeah.

00:25:18.016 --> 00:25:18.865
Make them hit it close.

00:25:20.556 --> 00:25:21.361
But what are they saying?

00:25:21.361 --> 00:25:27.819
As far as, like distance, they're going to lose like 10 to 15 yards, right, which is like one club.

00:25:27.819 --> 00:25:28.763
So it's a club.

00:25:28.763 --> 00:25:30.676
Yeah, I mean Rory's.

00:25:30.676 --> 00:25:35.824
He's, instead of hitting his wedge into the green, he's going to be hitting like a easy nine, like he's going to be hitting a nine iron.

00:25:35.824 --> 00:25:37.884
It's like, does that even make a difference?

00:25:39.394 --> 00:25:40.884
It's going to be a couple feet in dispersion.

00:25:42.307 --> 00:25:44.334
I mean it probably doesn't, kevin Kisner?

00:25:44.855 --> 00:25:45.336
I don't yeah.

00:25:45.964 --> 00:25:49.817
It matters to Rory, it matters to Kevin Kisner's and Zach Johnson's of the world.

00:25:49.857 --> 00:25:56.111
Right, right, yeah, yeah, because they're going to be hitting a they're going to be hitting a three instead of a four or five.

00:25:56.111 --> 00:25:58.195
Exactly, yeah.

00:25:59.486 --> 00:26:02.133
We should force everyone to use titleist TSR for drivers.

00:26:02.133 --> 00:26:06.733
That's the most difficult driver I've ever attempted.

00:26:07.490 --> 00:26:08.865
We should just think everyone have to hit the Simmons.

00:26:09.814 --> 00:26:10.884
I have totally lost track now.

00:26:10.884 --> 00:26:12.845
It happens so much lately.

00:26:12.845 --> 00:26:15.884
I, I, jeremy, what driver are we on this week?

00:26:16.166 --> 00:26:17.837
I have got this one staying.

00:26:17.837 --> 00:26:18.884
I've got the TSR three now.

00:26:18.884 --> 00:26:20.632
I experimented.

00:26:20.632 --> 00:26:25.269
I went very easy to hit, impossible to hit, and now I'm where I should be.

00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:33.311
Oh yeah, jeremy got a guy at Las Vegas golf superstar fired because he turned back and so no.

00:26:33.311 --> 00:26:38.020
Sir, you have to leave.

00:26:38.020 --> 00:26:40.411
Go home, go home.

00:26:41.828 --> 00:26:44.230
Yeah, I just don't know, like the ball thing.

00:26:44.230 --> 00:26:46.590
It's like, well, we'll see.

00:26:46.590 --> 00:26:48.486
I mean it's hard, you can't really tell it's.

00:26:48.486 --> 00:26:50.191
It's not in play currently.

00:26:50.191 --> 00:26:54.730
So Right, just like those top guys, it's like not going to affect them at all.

00:26:55.933 --> 00:26:58.810
Nothing's going to change Did you believe Lucas Gover when he said he lost 40 yards?

00:27:01.294 --> 00:27:01.999
40 yards.

00:27:02.019 --> 00:27:02.825
No, I don't think so.

00:27:02.825 --> 00:27:05.452
Yeah, that's excessive Bullshit.

00:27:06.105 --> 00:27:08.884
He was a little windy and I hit it well and it went all at 250.

00:27:08.884 --> 00:27:10.294
And I hit it further than that.

00:27:11.058 --> 00:27:15.382
It wouldn't, honestly, if it spins less or spins more.

00:27:15.382 --> 00:27:17.548
It wouldn't surprise me, with as big of a hook as he hits.

00:27:18.270 --> 00:27:18.592
He's not.

00:27:18.592 --> 00:27:19.673
He's not Right.

00:27:21.287 --> 00:27:26.653
Yeah, I think, I think with the technology, the technology that's available right now.

00:27:26.653 --> 00:27:32.836
It'll take them six months to adjust and, yeah, they'll be doing what they need to do Like.

00:27:34.113 --> 00:27:34.253
It's.

00:27:34.253 --> 00:27:40.884
I mean they'll, they'll adapt, they'll adapt, they would, they would adapt to a driver change as well.

00:27:40.884 --> 00:27:55.824
But it's and this is what Doc and I were talking about earlier You've got Callaway and Taylor made and ping and Cobra and title list and all these guys that come out with these drivers and different variants of the drivers and different color schemes and all this stuff.

00:27:55.824 --> 00:28:03.884
They are hand over fist making money on these and they don't want that to be one product.

00:28:05.531 --> 00:28:05.692
Right.

00:28:06.247 --> 00:28:14.672
Where they're telling the USGA and the RNA just tell them to make a different formula for one golf ball, that's.

00:28:14.672 --> 00:28:22.998
That's easier for them to do than for us to not make money and sponsor your commercials and plaster our names all over your events.

00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:24.682
Yeah, it's interesting.

00:28:24.682 --> 00:28:29.587
Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a business, it's a business yeah.

00:28:30.628 --> 00:28:32.210
It is yeah.

00:28:33.539 --> 00:28:34.204
Well, we'll see.

00:28:34.204 --> 00:28:35.111
It's gonna be interesting, be like.

00:28:35.231 --> 00:28:35.512
F1.

00:28:35.512 --> 00:28:36.778
Everybody plays the same thing.

00:28:38.345 --> 00:28:38.484
Yeah.

00:28:38.710 --> 00:28:40.597
You have the PGA tour driver.

00:28:40.597 --> 00:28:42.731
Pga tour irons.

00:28:44.675 --> 00:28:48.501
Bunch of off-sets PGA tour chefs no thank you.

00:28:48.501 --> 00:28:49.765
No right.

00:28:50.372 --> 00:28:51.386
What Now tell?

00:28:51.406 --> 00:28:52.901
me this I think that's what makes golf great.

00:28:52.901 --> 00:28:59.516
I think that's what makes golf great is the individualism, and the individualism of the clubs and the shafts and the balls that you can play.

00:28:59.516 --> 00:29:00.882
That's what would you, would you?

00:29:00.922 --> 00:29:16.996
tune in and watch an afternoon of 24 PGA tour pros all playing the same equipment to same ball, obviously fit to their specs as far as heights and everything but everybody playing the same iron, everybody playing the same ball, everybody's playing the same driver.

00:29:18.029 --> 00:29:18.290
I can.

00:29:18.290 --> 00:29:21.955
I can go to the local Muney golf course around here and watch a putting contest any day of the week.

00:29:22.557 --> 00:29:23.773
Yeah, yeah, I would agree.

00:29:24.130 --> 00:29:24.372
I don't.

00:29:24.372 --> 00:29:26.224
I don't need to go to a PGA tour event to see it.

00:29:26.244 --> 00:29:26.849
Right?

00:29:26.849 --> 00:29:28.798
No, I think it would be fun to watch.

00:29:28.798 --> 00:29:33.817
I'm not saying that the whole season, just one event where they all go out and have to play the same equipment.

00:29:35.270 --> 00:29:39.757
I think that becomes fun when we're talking about, like the throwback stuff, that person in heads.

00:29:39.757 --> 00:29:42.391
Yes, you know the old school blades, the yeah.

00:29:42.391 --> 00:29:49.558
That's when it becomes fun watching a tailor made versus a Callaway driver Board.

00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:50.750
Yeah, what about?

00:29:50.750 --> 00:30:01.462
What about a tour pro goes into dicks and gets a stock set of irons off the shelf and has to play in for the weekend?

00:30:02.309 --> 00:30:03.997
Did you see that corn for a kid?

00:30:05.251 --> 00:30:07.618
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the pink, yeah, yeah.

00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:10.574
Would that be entertaining?

00:30:10.574 --> 00:30:12.692
Or is like these guys are, so good they would adapt.

00:30:12.692 --> 00:30:18.075
It would take him a couple, whole couple, 10 minutes on the range, and they'd be fine, they'd take him a range session and they'd figure it out.

00:30:18.476 --> 00:30:19.038
Yeah, yeah.

00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:20.141
Yeah, wow.

00:30:21.569 --> 00:30:21.671
It's.

00:30:21.671 --> 00:30:23.416
I mean the, the amount of talent is just.

00:30:23.416 --> 00:30:29.913
I mean they just, they're so dialed in man, they've been doing this shit for years, like, and they just know the feel I mean it's.

00:30:30.276 --> 00:30:30.778
it's wild.

00:30:30.778 --> 00:30:42.894
Fortunately, I've been in a good position here to be able to watch some of these tour players come in and hit balls and you know, see what their numbers look like, see what everything is right and see the difference between those guys and even me.

00:30:43.657 --> 00:30:44.400
Ridiculous Huh.

00:30:44.869 --> 00:30:47.157
They, if they miss a golf ball, they're launching.

00:30:47.157 --> 00:30:50.398
Their spin changes a degree and 400 RPM.

00:30:50.398 --> 00:30:59.902
If I miss one, it you know I want you for the track man and it spins 700, 800, 900, 1000 RPM different.

00:30:59.902 --> 00:31:02.153
These guys miss so small.

00:31:02.153 --> 00:31:05.402
That is absolutely already just to watch, yeah.

00:31:05.402 --> 00:31:23.897
And even switching between clubs we Ryan's kind of a club junkie, right, right more is kind of a club junkie and so he came in and was doing some testing with some chefs and flopping between you know, five, six different chefs in the same head, back to back, swings, back to back, different chefs, same result.

00:31:23.897 --> 00:31:26.344
Wow, the equipment.

00:31:26.344 --> 00:31:30.069
I'm not going to say it doesn't matter, but those guys are good enough.

00:31:30.069 --> 00:31:32.579
They can make that adjustment very, very quickly.

00:31:34.417 --> 00:31:48.970
So I got a question for you because we talked to Eric about this before a couple times and a few other people about the differences in equipment that we can buy versus what the pros are playing, I mean, without giving away the secret recipe for new is.

00:31:48.990 --> 00:31:50.817
is there a difference between?

00:31:50.817 --> 00:31:53.569
Are we speaking new level or are we speaking other brands?

00:31:54.594 --> 00:31:55.940
I think just in general.

00:31:55.940 --> 00:31:58.069
But I would be curious to know about new level.

00:31:58.069 --> 00:32:00.438
I just don't want to dig into that too deep.

00:32:01.320 --> 00:32:05.296
So you guys follow us on Instagram?

00:32:05.296 --> 00:32:06.861
Yeah, of course.

00:32:06.861 --> 00:32:13.369
So when the when the USGA announced the rollback of the golf ball, we made a quick video.

00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:20.269
Rory was very outspoken about the fact that what the average consumer gets is very different than what those guys get, right?

00:32:20.269 --> 00:32:35.670
I'm not going to name names, but we we have a gym that's attached to our building here Same umbrella company, right and we've got a lot of tour guys that come in and out of there and fortunately we've got a good enough relationship with those guys that we get to see their equipment quite a bit.

00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:42.125
You know, if they need lost and lies adjusted or you know stuff like that, we're happy to do that for them.

00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:53.541
There are multiple guys that have come in here with very, very different types of equipment, very, very different golf clubs that say the same thing on them.

00:32:53.541 --> 00:32:58.117
We had a guy, actually one, last year.

00:32:58.117 --> 00:33:12.336
He's got a new set of one of the other manufacturers again I won't name names that the production heads have pocket cavities, that Inserts, that have all kinds of stuff.

00:33:12.336 --> 00:33:34.715
Those were solid one piece for Giants that he brought in with a completely different shake, completely different offset, completely different grinds, completely different everything Not even remotely close to what's all about the right Not even close, but weird, shameless plug here for a second.

00:33:34.715 --> 00:33:45.294
The stuff that Ches is playing, the stuff that Ryan's playing, the stuff that Stephen Alker is playing on Champions tour is the exact same golf club that you can buy off of our website today.

00:33:45.294 --> 00:33:48.117
Exactly, exactly.

00:33:48.117 --> 00:33:49.579
That's cool.

00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.182
Absolutely.

00:33:51.182 --> 00:34:01.390
Do you think it matters, like the caliber of player, that you are to get something different like modeled to you, like I mean?

00:34:01.390 --> 00:34:07.238
I know you don't want to name names of the players, but it's obviously got to be a big name to where that they're.

00:34:07.238 --> 00:34:10.596
They're going to invest in grinding it for you.

00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.092
Yeah, one of the bigger things.

00:34:14.092 --> 00:34:22.251
Obviously we were talking about John Romer earlier when he switched from Taylor made the Callaway Callaway built in his Taylor made irons with a Callaway logo.

00:34:22.251 --> 00:34:26.293
Basically there, in the same exact shape, the same exact weight in the same exact places.

00:34:27.134 --> 00:34:27.815
They just night.

00:34:27.815 --> 00:34:28.757
Yeah, exactly Exactly.

00:34:32.309 --> 00:34:45.382
I mean, we've there's been rumors for years about Tiger playing mirror irons that had Nike logos on it, right, right, which is really actually a room where that's a real thing, but those things happen all the time.

00:34:45.382 --> 00:34:55.666
The interesting part is, 99% of the world, with the exception of us golf nerds, don't know that there's a difference between what those guys are doing and what we're doing.

00:34:55.666 --> 00:34:57.713
Right, it's, it's.

00:34:57.713 --> 00:35:04.648
The bifurcation of the equipment in general is massive.

00:35:04.648 --> 00:35:07.248
There's already a lot of occasion.

00:35:07.268 --> 00:35:18.264
Yeah, people are calling for bifurcation and there already is Exactly, exactly, and there is with the golf ball too, because I mean you get the like left, dot and right, dash and star, exactly.

00:35:18.264 --> 00:35:27.855
I mean, there's so many golf balls that nobody knows exist, that the two players play until you find a random one the week after the tour was there.

00:35:28.215 --> 00:35:32.981
Yep, yeah, they're already a year ahead of us, basically always.

00:35:32.981 --> 00:35:34.385
Oh yeah, yeah.

00:35:35.931 --> 00:35:58.460
So do you think fitting, maybe fitting as a process and in general doesn't go quite as far as it could like if you, if you had, if money wasn't an issue, you could go in and say I want to be fitted and I want the clubs built exactly how I should have them you know what I'm saying like the heads, the faces, the grinds.

00:35:59.590 --> 00:36:00.635
So is there a?

00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.831
point where it's too far like it doesn't matter anymore for the average golfer, I think.

00:36:06.936 --> 00:36:11.856
I think that there is a such thing with golf equipment as being over complicated.

00:36:11.856 --> 00:36:15.233
Yes, in a perfect world.

00:36:15.713 --> 00:36:18.659
I feel attacked in a.

00:36:19.161 --> 00:36:26.398
in a perfect world, we'd have a mill in our, in our shop, and we make every single head exactly what that particular player needs.

00:36:26.398 --> 00:36:28.735
Yeah, but it's not efficient.

00:36:28.735 --> 00:36:32.480
Right, it takes a lot of time to do those things.

00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:39.856
You know, if we place a PO for heads, it's at least 90 days before we get 50 of them.

00:36:39.856 --> 00:36:49.911
I mean, yeah, the, the and that's the full process from you know, raw tooling to finish, from paintfield ready to assemble golf club.

00:36:49.911 --> 00:36:59.661
But and obviously a quantity there, but it's doable, it's not not feasible, I would say right.

00:36:59.661 --> 00:37:15.635
That said, given what we've got, given what you really can do and make available, easily fitting is very important to make that golf club work for you rather than you having to work for it.

00:37:18.001 --> 00:37:23.833
Sense, much sense, much sense, absolutely so, eric.

00:37:23.833 --> 00:37:31.956
Eric has been on the podcast and he's mentioned a few times that which, which, eric, I know about a million of them that know you greatly greatly, greatly.

00:37:31.956 --> 00:37:33.635
He is.

00:37:33.635 --> 00:37:37.788
He has said that shafts can be painted however they want.

00:37:37.788 --> 00:37:39.184
Oh yeah, have you seen that?

00:37:39.206 --> 00:37:42.766
yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

00:37:42.766 --> 00:37:43.469
I mean you, you look at it this way.

00:37:43.469 --> 00:37:55.021
So again, not to name names, but there's a very large golf club company who Dominates the market in driver sales, for instance.

00:37:55.021 --> 00:37:59.282
They've had the same shaft in those things for 15 years.

00:37:59.282 --> 00:38:00.769
It's got a different base game.

00:38:00.769 --> 00:38:04.248
So what they do is they look at the tour, like Vintis is hot on tour right now.

00:38:04.248 --> 00:38:09.228
They look at the tour, they see what everybody's playing and they make that adjustment right.

00:38:09.228 --> 00:38:10.768
Hey, vintis is hot right now.

00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:13.545
We're going to put that in our stuff.

00:38:13.545 --> 00:38:14.070
It's not the Vintis chef.

00:38:14.070 --> 00:38:20.862
We all know the difference between Vila Corp or non Vila Corp, right, right it's.

00:38:20.862 --> 00:38:22.550
It looks the same on TV, but it's not the same chef.

00:38:22.550 --> 00:38:26.769
Grab the spray paint, exactly, exactly.

00:38:27.436 --> 00:38:27.516
It's.

00:38:27.556 --> 00:39:07.969
It's a game where they say we need 300 driver shafts or 300000 for that matter, then no no, do you think?

00:39:08.831 --> 00:39:18.795
I've always wondered about this, because what UST Mamiya says is a stiff, what Fuji Karas says is a stiff, what graphite design says is a stiff.

00:39:18.795 --> 00:39:20.610
They all conspec differently.

00:39:21.364 --> 00:39:21.606
They are.

00:39:21.606 --> 00:39:22.972
They're all totally different.

00:39:23.485 --> 00:39:25.469
Yeah, so does there need to be?

00:39:26.431 --> 00:39:28.597
a a governing body.

00:39:29.264 --> 00:39:37.737
Well, not necessarily governing body, but a like regulations in place to where, if you're going to say this is a stiff, it has to be between these guidelines.

00:39:37.737 --> 00:39:41.213
Is that something that's needed or does not even matter?

00:39:41.726 --> 00:39:42.771
Or is it even feasible?

00:39:43.567 --> 00:39:47.646
And the feasible part is the hard part, right, every?

00:39:47.646 --> 00:39:48.753
I mean.

00:39:48.753 --> 00:39:59.414
You look at some of these companies, graphite design, for instance, being more of an Asian market style shaft right, they're, they're based out of Japan, they've been in the Asian market forever.

00:39:59.414 --> 00:40:03.396
Or that market is very different.

00:40:03.396 --> 00:40:12.190
If you ever pick up an actual Japanese golf club, everything is softer, everything is lighter, everything is built for as much as I had to say it this way it's built for that market, right?

00:40:12.190 --> 00:40:22.797
Generally speaking, they're smaller people, they don't make quite as much speed, so their regular shaft is very much softer than the regular shaft in the States.

00:40:23.905 --> 00:40:24.807
I picked up a lady's.

00:40:24.807 --> 00:40:31.985
A lady left a pitching wedge in front of us today, yeah, and I went and they were from Japan or Korea or something like that.

00:40:31.985 --> 00:40:37.125
And I went and picked it up and my buddy's dad is like, oh, did you leave that club there?

00:40:37.125 --> 00:40:40.554
I'm like, no, I said I'll grab it and I picked it up and I thought it was plastic.

00:40:41.626 --> 00:40:42.610
That's how light it was.

00:40:42.610 --> 00:40:44.070
It's a wet spaghetti noodle.

00:40:44.666 --> 00:40:46.387
Oh my God, it was.

00:40:46.387 --> 00:40:48.579
I'm like this is like a June.

00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:49.505
This isn't even a June.

00:40:49.505 --> 00:40:50.849
It's lighter than a junior club.

00:40:51.411 --> 00:40:51.612
Yeah.

00:40:52.233 --> 00:40:56.916
Wow yeah, it was a lady flex RBZ or a Rocket Balls pitching wedge.

00:40:56.916 --> 00:40:59.451
And oh there are.

00:40:59.652 --> 00:41:01.617
I mean, there are ways to compare those things.

00:41:01.617 --> 00:41:04.894
We I mean we frequently analyze every single shaft that comes into this place.

00:41:04.894 --> 00:41:14.215
So, you know, we place a hundred dynamic golds and we frequency every single one of those to make sure that they're consistent across our entire line, right?

00:41:14.215 --> 00:41:16.150
So there's ways to do it.

00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:21.257
If a shaft freaks it, you know, 275, and the next shaft freaks it 260.

00:41:21.257 --> 00:41:22.972
Those are two very different golf shafts.

00:41:22.972 --> 00:41:28.905
Yeah, well, regardless of what the paint says, if it's 265, it's 265.

00:41:28.905 --> 00:41:30.405
If it's 270, it's 270.

00:41:30.405 --> 00:41:31.670
If it's 300, it's 300.

00:41:31.670 --> 00:41:34.853
Yeah, so there's ways to do it.

00:41:34.853 --> 00:41:42.090
Some of it involves a little bit of technology that a lot of people don't have access to, but it's, I mean, it's doable.

00:41:44.565 --> 00:41:46.373
What happens to the ones that are like outliers?

00:41:46.373 --> 00:41:48.289
Does dynamic gold take those back?

00:41:48.289 --> 00:41:51.679
They will, they will, they will.

00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:52.081
That's good.

00:41:52.081 --> 00:41:53.003
At least that's good.

00:41:53.023 --> 00:41:57.695
Yeah, yeah, typically, if we get something like that, we'll throw it into display head that's.

00:41:57.695 --> 00:41:59.117
You know we're never going to send out.

00:41:59.117 --> 00:42:04.952
It's just something that's laying around the shop for people to look at, right, I mean, it still looks like a dynamic gold shaft.

00:42:04.952 --> 00:42:12.413
Yeah, if it's a little out of spec, not going to hurt anything hanging on a wall you know, I mean most people are never going to even notice that at all.

00:42:12.413 --> 00:42:18.335
Most people think they can notice it better than maybe they actually can.

00:42:18.697 --> 00:42:18.938
Yeah.

00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:19.840
Yeah.

00:42:20.925 --> 00:42:21.246
How many?

00:42:21.246 --> 00:42:24.489
How many do you say are off when you're building on average?

00:42:26.153 --> 00:42:28.047
Not very, no, is that?

00:42:28.148 --> 00:42:28.650
across all.

00:42:28.650 --> 00:42:31.492
No, I'm not trying to single out dynamic gold or two.

00:42:31.512 --> 00:42:35.815
I'm just curious, Like I would say some are better than others, for sure, For sure.

00:42:35.815 --> 00:42:46.074
Again, though it it not to say that it doesn't matter, but as long as, as long as every club in your set is the same there's consistency there, Right, Right?

00:42:46.074 --> 00:42:58.690
You and we talk about it all the time you want, you want to make that golf club work for you, right, but as a decent player, even you know somebody that's going to put in some time and make some effort to improve.

00:42:58.690 --> 00:43:00.898
They're going to get used to that and they're going to figure out how to hit it.

00:43:00.898 --> 00:43:11.677
So not to say that the build is an important or you know, the specs of everything isn't important, but there is human error in that and you'll learn, yeah.

00:43:12.036 --> 00:43:12.478
What should I?

00:43:12.498 --> 00:43:12.940
say that way.

00:43:15.266 --> 00:43:20.697
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00:43:20.697 --> 00:43:22.467
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00:43:33.634 --> 00:43:41.487
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00:43:42.650 --> 00:43:43.653
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00:43:44.014 --> 00:43:52.614
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00:43:53.465 --> 00:43:54.010
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00:44:00.112 --> 00:44:00.454
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00:44:01.356 --> 00:44:02.478
Yeah, All right.

00:44:02.478 --> 00:44:05.628
So what's what's new at new level?

00:44:06.471 --> 00:44:06.952
Oh man.

00:44:07.452 --> 00:44:08.614
Let's, let's listen.

00:44:08.614 --> 00:44:11.579
Insider scoop oh man.

00:44:14.844 --> 00:44:17.050
All I can say is pay attention to the social media.

00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:20.817
Is here over the next month, two months, three months.

00:44:21.177 --> 00:44:26.085
Bad, we've got some pretty cool stuff in the works there's.

00:44:26.085 --> 00:44:30.146
There's a couple of teasers out there on the internet that you might be able to find.

00:44:30.146 --> 00:44:43.737
For instance, one of our players may or may not have had one of his children pick out his putter for the week and there may or may not be a teaser of the current iron that he is playing in that article.

00:44:43.737 --> 00:44:47.936
If you find the article, you'll see a picture of something pretty cool yeah.

00:44:47.936 --> 00:44:50.182
So we'll play a little bit of the game here.

00:44:50.222 --> 00:44:53.474
Yeah, there's, this is your own adventure podcast.

00:44:53.565 --> 00:45:03.876
So if you follow Mr Barat at all, there may or may not have been another picture that was posted of a different iron that may or may not be currently on tour.

00:45:03.876 --> 00:45:08.112
Okay, oh, do a little bit of digging.

00:45:08.112 --> 00:45:09.210
You can find some pretty cool stuff.

00:45:09.210 --> 00:45:10.329
It's going to want to work.

00:45:10.329 --> 00:45:11.768
I just want the info.

00:45:12.632 --> 00:45:13.012
All right.

00:45:13.244 --> 00:45:15.072
How was, how's the transition been?

00:45:15.072 --> 00:45:19.416
I mean so Ryan Moore, about the company, what it was that been like a year ago?

00:45:20.385 --> 00:45:21.710
So actually it wasn't Ryan.

00:45:21.710 --> 00:45:24.630
Ryan had a little bit to do with it.

00:45:24.630 --> 00:45:45.657
So, ryan, the story with Ryan years ago he was working with one of the fitters in our area here and saw, actually, our older 623 and decided that he liked the way it looked Like, the way it felt, liked everything about it, and that particular fitter told him that you shouldn't play that.

00:45:45.657 --> 00:45:49.295
You should play these other things that we get paid to sell.

00:45:49.295 --> 00:46:03.559
So he ended up going with that, didn't end up putting our stuff in the bag, played with those about a half a season or so, wasn't really ever in love with them.

00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:11.125
They did okay, didn't love them, and then reached out to us and was like, hey, I had seen the stuff, I had hit the stuff, it was really good.

00:46:11.125 --> 00:46:17.019
I would love to get a set, put them through their paces to figure out.

00:46:17.019 --> 00:46:21.960
He ended up loving them so much so that he let his team know.

00:46:25.510 --> 00:46:29.264
Long story short, that team is the team that ended up purchasing new level golf.

00:46:29.264 --> 00:46:42.219
They've done it's been really cool the amount of access that we have now to different things, different technologies, different.

00:46:42.219 --> 00:46:45.318
The worst thing in small businesses to be undercapitalized.

00:46:45.318 --> 00:46:51.789
Unfortunately, we're not in that position anymore where we can do testing on things that we didn't get to see before.

00:46:51.789 --> 00:46:53.804
We have this great building.

00:46:53.804 --> 00:46:55.925
Now We've got a simulator that we can do fittings in.

00:46:57.570 --> 00:47:12.438
Awesome facility, by the way, Dude, there's so much cool stuff and just getting to see I mentioned earlier we get a lot of the tour guys that come in and work out with Carson in Motion Lab and we get to see those guys, we get to meet those guys, we get to talk to those guys.

00:47:12.438 --> 00:47:17.637
That's something that we never got to do before.

00:47:17.637 --> 00:47:19.722
Pick those guys' brains.

00:47:19.722 --> 00:47:26.925
Those guys are the best ball strikers in the world and if somebody is going to give you feedback to tell you whether your equipment is good or it's bad, it's those guys.

00:47:26.925 --> 00:47:43.824
So getting to see the player feedback on what they like, what they don't like, being able to design a golf club that's going to be well received to not only good players but even what the bad players aspire to be, is so valuable.

00:47:43.824 --> 00:47:47.896
There's not a dollar amount that you can put on that insight, right?

00:47:47.896 --> 00:47:52.235
So long story short man.

00:47:52.235 --> 00:47:53.737
The transition has been awesome.

00:47:54.987 --> 00:48:01.056
Yeah, I just love seeing the NL logo and the true logo just slashed right there behind your left shoulder.

00:48:01.056 --> 00:48:02.338
Right there, right there.

00:48:02.338 --> 00:48:04.905
We're big lovers of TrueLinks, we're obviously.

00:48:05.186 --> 00:48:13.443
Oh, you're going to have to swing in there, joe, the only shoe I wear to work to the mall to fucking mobetas or zippies.

00:48:13.463 --> 00:48:15.925
wherever I'm going, I only rock TrueLinks.

00:48:16.987 --> 00:48:19.534
We got all kinds of stuff.

00:48:19.534 --> 00:48:27.858
We may or may not have an iron that is inspired by a shoe that came out recently.

00:48:27.858 --> 00:48:29.369
Yeah, the dead golfer.

00:48:29.369 --> 00:48:31.173
Oh yeah.

00:48:31.275 --> 00:48:32.349
Oh yeah, those are beautiful.

00:48:32.349 --> 00:48:35.853
This is what I'm waiting for.

00:48:35.985 --> 00:48:37.380
Yeah, those of you on YouTube a little treat here.

00:48:38.889 --> 00:48:39.833
It's happened to have them.

00:48:39.833 --> 00:48:43.132
They are incredible.

00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:44.925
Yeah, they look great.

00:48:47.190 --> 00:48:54.918
Those went in the bag a month and a half ago and have not left, so not planning on doing it anytime soon.

00:48:55.867 --> 00:49:00.336
Do you guys offer different finishes, or is it just like if you wanted a raw set, could you do that?

00:49:02.851 --> 00:49:03.273
We don't.

00:49:03.273 --> 00:49:07.114
There are places where you can go to have the chrome removed.

00:49:07.114 --> 00:49:09.918
Yeah, we don't do it in-house.

00:49:09.918 --> 00:49:17.675
We're experimenting with some things, obviously the dead golfer irons being in black.

00:49:17.675 --> 00:49:26.298
We've got a couple ideas in the works that we may be able to bring some stuff to market that is a little bit different than what we've got out now.

00:49:26.298 --> 00:49:29.130
We've done raw wedges in the past.

00:49:29.130 --> 00:49:32.250
I always thought they look good.

00:49:32.250 --> 00:49:33.929
I prefer raw stuff anyway.

00:49:33.929 --> 00:49:38.489
I like my golf clubs to look like they can use, so if there's a little bit of rust on it, I love it.

00:49:38.931 --> 00:49:39.213
I love it.

00:49:40.567 --> 00:49:42.072
A lot of guys prefer the chrome.

00:49:42.072 --> 00:49:45.925
It's kind of six and one half dozen the other.

00:49:45.925 --> 00:50:01.757
We're, like I say, experimenting with some things to see what we can figure some stuff out that we can do in-house that doesn't take a long time to fix or doesn't take a long time to do, that we can charge a little bit extra for if we need it to, or maybe it's a service that we provide in the future.

00:50:01.757 --> 00:50:06.576
If we've got to finish it this way, it's probably the same amount of work to finish it another way.

00:50:09.139 --> 00:50:13.251
We're we're interested in any any other clubs, new clubs coming.

00:50:15.260 --> 00:50:17.027
Fucking tinker yourself bro.

00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:19.028
You're an addict, Matt.

00:50:19.170 --> 00:50:21.449
Yeah, yeah, you don't feel that.

00:50:22.313 --> 00:50:24.061
I will answer that question with yes.

00:50:24.061 --> 00:50:26.608
I can't answer that question with exactly what it is.

00:50:27.210 --> 00:50:28.333
You said go digging.

00:50:28.333 --> 00:50:30.668
He said go check out Instagram and you find some stuff.

00:50:30.820 --> 00:50:35.768
I said others other than that, and there's anything that he could talk about.

00:50:37.085 --> 00:50:38.268
There is some stuff in the works.

00:50:38.268 --> 00:50:39.626
I can't tell you exactly what it is yet.

00:50:40.661 --> 00:50:43.731
OK is are you guys going to stick with the, the hybrid?

00:50:43.731 --> 00:50:44.985
Are you going to continue to do that?

00:50:44.985 --> 00:50:46.806
Is the driver in the works?

00:50:46.806 --> 00:50:50.463
Is there a driver coming?

00:50:50.463 --> 00:50:51.085
You?

00:50:51.125 --> 00:50:51.244
guys.

00:50:51.244 --> 00:50:51.706
I want to know.

00:50:54.579 --> 00:50:57.429
Drivers drivers in three woods are a totally different animal.

00:50:57.429 --> 00:51:05.721
So oh, yeah, oh, I'm not going to say it's never going to happen, but it's not going to be any time in the future, in the near future, I should say putters Do we?

00:51:05.842 --> 00:51:07.146
is there a new level cutter coming?

00:51:08.081 --> 00:51:08.402
Not yet.

00:51:10.242 --> 00:51:11.789
Yeah, no, he doesn't need any more putters.

00:51:12.139 --> 00:51:18.072
Just tell him no, we're in a unique space where we've got our teeth on the irons and wedges.

00:51:18.072 --> 00:51:20.148
You know the driving iron is really good.

00:51:20.148 --> 00:51:25.346
It's, in my opinion, one of the better golf clubs that we make, even as good as the irons and the wedges are.

00:51:25.346 --> 00:51:26.268
That thing is incredible.

00:51:26.659 --> 00:51:38.005
Do you know what something you may not know about that in LU, the is if you turn it over and swing it left handed it's the seven iron.

00:51:38.005 --> 00:51:39.284
It's like a seven iron.

00:51:40.681 --> 00:51:41.806
Can I tell you a secret?

00:51:42.681 --> 00:51:43.985
Oh, of course you can.

00:51:44.500 --> 00:51:45.485
It is a seven iron.

00:51:46.019 --> 00:51:46.862
I haven't tried it.

00:51:49.900 --> 00:51:53.050
Did you try it in a tournament with money on the line.

00:51:54.041 --> 00:51:57.409
You know, I did not try it in a tournament but I had to get that job with that golf club.

00:52:00.021 --> 00:52:00.302
I was.

00:52:00.302 --> 00:52:03.911
I was stunned at how well it came off the back of that club.

00:52:04.481 --> 00:52:05.286
Well, you should have heard of it.

00:52:05.286 --> 00:52:07.005
Yeah, he was so excited.

00:52:07.905 --> 00:52:09.900
We use the back of the back of the club.

00:52:09.900 --> 00:52:11.601
Yes, oh man.

00:52:11.601 --> 00:52:17.255
So I believe that I believe that with the angle of the drilling edge.

00:52:17.255 --> 00:52:17.657
I believe it.

00:52:18.121 --> 00:52:24.047
Yeah, and the guy we were playing with, he was on the other side of the fairway Because he's like did you hit that left handed?

00:52:26.043 --> 00:52:30.764
You know I used to have a putter that felt better off the back flange than it did off the face.

00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:33.605
Oh, that's a bad putter yeah.

00:52:35.289 --> 00:52:35.409
Yeah.

00:52:41.521 --> 00:52:43.389
Oh goodness, all right.

00:52:43.389 --> 00:52:44.445
So, joe, you're going to check out.

00:52:44.445 --> 00:52:46.525
You're going to go check out the shop when you go down.

00:52:47.186 --> 00:52:51.688
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to do my best to yeah, if he does I will be sad at him.

00:52:51.688 --> 00:52:53.425
I'm going to do my best.

00:52:53.465 --> 00:52:54.248
he said that's.

00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:56.467
I mean I got 15 minutes for sure.

00:52:56.467 --> 00:52:59.197
I mean I'm sure it's a playground 50.

00:53:00.702 --> 00:53:03.688
Yo, you can't get all the way around this place in 15 minutes if you want it to.

00:53:04.208 --> 00:53:06.974
Okay, okay, we'll do it, we'll do it All right.

00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.268
Normal people can do fittings there too, right?

00:53:09.268 --> 00:53:13.423
Oh yeah, Okay cool, oh yeah, Might have to leave a little trip down there.

00:53:14.568 --> 00:53:16.905
Please do, please do, let me know.

00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.130
We need to at least go in and hit some of the irons, Joe, so you can.

00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:21.485
I know I do need to do that.

00:53:21.485 --> 00:53:22.969
Yeah, he's looking for some new irons, yeah.

00:53:24.739 --> 00:53:30.070
If you know what I need them that worked for one of the best club companies in the world.

00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:32.202
I mean so?

00:53:32.202 --> 00:53:36.182
Greenlee's been on here before and I think he said it's, what was this?

00:53:36.182 --> 00:53:36.746
A year ago.

00:53:36.746 --> 00:53:41.050
Greenlee said there's, you can't really beat new level for the price point for the quality.

00:53:41.050 --> 00:53:44.967
He said he will play sub 60.

00:53:45.028 --> 00:53:45.630
Is that what it's called?

00:53:46.402 --> 00:53:47.106
I don't think he said that.

00:53:47.579 --> 00:53:48.806
He said sub 70 or new level.

00:53:48.806 --> 00:53:51.148
Well, Tommy Armour is involved with sub 70.

00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:52.786
So yeah, that's true, he's homies.

00:53:52.786 --> 00:53:53.728
Yeah, yeah.

00:53:53.728 --> 00:53:55.867
So he said it's very hard to beat new level.

00:53:56.427 --> 00:54:07.226
I will, I will 1000% tell you this if our irons had one of the major manufacturers logos on it and I mean it'd be a $17, $1800 set of golf clubs.

00:54:07.487 --> 00:54:08.628
Yeah, every day of the week.

00:54:09.269 --> 00:54:11.034
Yeah, every day of the week.

00:54:13.141 --> 00:54:14.146
And they're not that much.

00:54:14.146 --> 00:54:23.760
And no, I mean, and if you're out there right now and you're playing some new level irons, there's a really good chance that that guy right there built them yeah.

00:54:24.266 --> 00:54:25.179
Really really good chance.

00:54:25.179 --> 00:54:28.831
So you know, I'm going to place an order for one right now.

00:54:28.831 --> 00:54:31.338
Oh live order Good.

00:54:31.338 --> 00:54:34.789
I'm going to order it right now.

00:54:34.789 --> 00:54:36.855
Which?

00:54:38.137 --> 00:54:38.539
one News.

00:54:39.802 --> 00:54:41.545
I love the utility the NLU yeah.

00:54:42.427 --> 00:54:42.646
Yeah.

00:54:43.248 --> 00:54:51.168
Yeah, the chat Um you have Joe pick Joe, pick it up for you.

00:54:51.188 --> 00:54:51.809
Why is down there?

00:54:52.099 --> 00:54:56.376
So I have the graphite design D, I think it's an eight, I don't know.

00:54:56.376 --> 00:55:03.382
It's a 95, x I think, and it's just not not a great shaft, I don't think so heavy enough, If enough.

00:55:03.603 --> 00:55:03.923
what is it?

00:55:04.105 --> 00:55:04.768
Not stiff enough.

00:55:04.768 --> 00:55:09.733
It just feels noodley, but I don't know.

00:55:10.253 --> 00:55:11.878
I kind of want to try to launch Lowish.

00:55:11.878 --> 00:55:14.797
We can do this on the side.

00:55:14.838 --> 00:55:15.179
I've got ideas.

00:55:15.179 --> 00:55:18.351
You can tell the powers that be that you went on the show and sold golf clubs.

00:55:20.219 --> 00:55:24.059
That's the power of the Chasing Daylight podcast, absolutely.

00:55:24.822 --> 00:55:27.536
I think there's going to be a few orders coming in from the CDP.

00:55:27.536 --> 00:55:28.059
I'm in.

00:55:28.963 --> 00:55:30.612
All you got to do is let me know.

00:55:30.612 --> 00:55:33.264
Just let me know I'm going to place that order tonight.

00:55:33.264 --> 00:55:35.094
I promise you, I love it.

00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:37.445
And then you'll return it next week.

00:55:37.445 --> 00:55:41.092
I'm going to do that, and then you'll return it next week.

00:55:41.092 --> 00:55:46.038
No, no, I'm not returning, I'm only returning anything.

00:55:48.565 --> 00:55:51.532
They don't have the 90 day money back guarantee at new level.

00:55:51.532 --> 00:55:56.199
So, Can you ship that to Las Vegas called Superstore for me please?

00:55:56.983 --> 00:56:01.568
Hey but if you, if you are on the fence on new level, there is a demo program, right, doc?

00:56:01.568 --> 00:56:02.193
You want to talk about that?

00:56:02.193 --> 00:56:03.179
Tell them about the demo program.

00:56:04.003 --> 00:56:10.449
So the cool part about it in if I'm being a hundred percent honest with you, there are a couple of things that are not on there currently.

00:56:12.184 --> 00:56:18.730
We are making room for new inventory, ie those pictures that I may or may not have mentioned are in a couple of articles somewhere.

00:56:18.730 --> 00:56:23.159
So our 902 lines are starting to dwindle down.

00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:27.606
So we've got a lot of those things allocated for actual sets rather than the demo stuff.

00:56:27.606 --> 00:56:29.827
Cb is MBs.

00:56:29.827 --> 00:56:32.199
Those things are going to be easily available.

00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:38.706
Gi 22 is easily available Pretty much where we're at.

00:56:38.706 --> 00:56:41.809
Like I said, we've got some cool stuff in the works coming up here pretty soon.

00:56:41.809 --> 00:56:48.605
So if the MBs or CBs aren't your thing, give it a little bit, you'll see some cool stuff.

00:56:51.146 --> 00:56:56.670
I love it Absolutely so basically, I guess I didn't answer your question.

00:56:56.670 --> 00:57:00.208
Totally, you can buy a demo 7 iron.

00:57:00.208 --> 00:57:03.726
We'll build it the same way that we build everything.

00:57:03.726 --> 00:57:05.666
So same specs, same everything.

00:57:05.666 --> 00:57:07.443
We'll send you that 7 iron.

00:57:07.443 --> 00:57:09.067
You can take it out, hit it.

00:57:09.067 --> 00:57:09.748
It's yours.

00:57:09.748 --> 00:57:12.827
If you like it, great, we can redo the rest of the set for you.

00:57:12.827 --> 00:57:16.248
If you don't like it, your 7 iron, it's a new desert club.

00:57:16.248 --> 00:57:19.367
Give it to a buddy, do whatever you want to do with it.

00:57:19.387 --> 00:57:20.570
Yeah, that's awesome.

00:57:20.570 --> 00:57:23.199
I love that that is cool.

00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.764
It's being a DTC.

00:57:24.764 --> 00:57:27.150
It allows people to get to try the stuff.

00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:38.965
Easy, I will say I'm going to give Doc a little credit right now, because Doc will give you the truth, no matter what it is, he's going to tell you how it is.

00:57:38.965 --> 00:57:49.264
And I remember when I started playing golf five years ago, I went into club champion when he was a fitter there and I was hey, doc, can you fit me for something?

00:57:49.264 --> 00:57:54.387
And I was swinging the club, he said no, you can work on your swing first before I put you in anything.

00:57:55.922 --> 00:57:58.949
Look, man, I've been in the same guy for five entire life.

00:57:58.949 --> 00:58:03.449
The last thing I want to do to people is make them spend the same money for us.

00:58:04.460 --> 00:58:05.786
And that's why we love you, my friend.

00:58:06.501 --> 00:58:08.949
I would much rather put in the time a little bit.

00:58:08.949 --> 00:58:14.199
Maybe do a lesson or two, figure out that golf swing, and then we can figure something out for you for golf clubs.

00:58:14.661 --> 00:58:15.824
I fully appreciate it.

00:58:16.447 --> 00:58:16.909
Absolutely.

00:58:16.909 --> 00:58:18.867
That is going up to the.

00:58:20.003 --> 00:58:20.503
They just are.

00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:23.222
That is going up to the hot chicken going.

00:58:23.222 --> 00:58:23.925
Hey, can I get your number?

00:58:25.391 --> 00:58:27.286
No, work on your weight a little bit.

00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:29.563
You can work on yourself for a little bit.

00:58:29.583 --> 00:58:32.771
Not yet, not yet Figure out what you want in life.

00:58:32.771 --> 00:58:34.726
I need to see a couple things first.

00:58:34.726 --> 00:58:36.585
What's your credit rating?

00:58:36.585 --> 00:58:38.402
Get a job first.

00:58:41.088 --> 00:58:42.291
Too funny, too funny.

00:58:42.351 --> 00:58:42.592
All right.

00:58:44.382 --> 00:58:45.606
Let's wrap it up with Tiger.

00:58:45.606 --> 00:58:50.206
I want to talk about this a little bit.

00:58:50.206 --> 00:58:52.505
His swing looked good.

00:58:52.505 --> 00:58:53.943
He played well.

00:58:53.943 --> 00:58:58.748
Charlie is turning into a little golfer.

00:58:59.510 --> 00:59:00.052
A monster.

00:59:01.304 --> 00:59:02.802
He's playing, he's winning.

00:59:02.802 --> 00:59:07.989
Now, last year I don't even think he was top 200 in the state.

00:59:07.989 --> 00:59:16.213
I haven't looked lately to see where that's it, but I'm sure they're going to be talking a little bit about that on the coverage.

00:59:16.213 --> 00:59:28.815
So and this with the current state of golf, this is a shining light for the PGA.

00:59:28.815 --> 00:59:40.514
They're, you know, their flagship player out on the golf course with his son, the next coming of the woods genealogy line.

00:59:40.514 --> 00:59:43.402
Are you excited for this?

00:59:43.402 --> 00:59:51.135
Are you just like, come on, let it go, cause I know a couple of years ago when this started, I was like, okay, just let him be a kid.

00:59:51.135 --> 01:00:06.105
But now it's to a point where he's you know, he's playing well, and there's going to be a lot of talk about Charlie woods this weekend, not necessarily Tiger Woods and are you okay with that?

01:00:09.083 --> 01:00:10.547
Are you asking me or are you asking everybody?

01:00:10.586 --> 01:00:11.530
Everybody, everybody.

01:00:15.746 --> 01:00:19.974
Don't get me wrong, I love the entire Tiger Woods and Charlie story.

01:00:19.974 --> 01:00:22.306
Tiger.

01:00:24.081 --> 01:00:24.943
I know who Jack is.

01:00:24.943 --> 01:00:25.846
I know who Arnie is.

01:00:25.846 --> 01:00:26.708
I know those guys.

01:00:26.708 --> 01:00:28.472
I know what they've done in the world.

01:00:28.472 --> 01:00:37.012
Tiger was the guy for most of my golf interest career whatever you want to call it right.

01:00:37.012 --> 01:00:41.364
Tiger was the most influential player for me growing up.

01:00:41.364 --> 01:00:48.543
He was the most influential player still in my era, Right, I love seeing Tiger on the golf course.

01:00:48.543 --> 01:00:51.188
I think it's great for the game just because he is who he is.

01:00:51.188 --> 01:00:58.547
I don't really care that much about the Tiger and Charlie story.

01:00:58.547 --> 01:01:01.733
I think it's awesome to see Tiger out there being a dad.

01:01:01.733 --> 01:01:07.070
That's the part that gets me every time, Just the support that he's got for Charlie.

01:01:07.070 --> 01:01:15.603
It's a different Tiger when Charlie is on the golf course than it is seeing Tiger playing a PGA, and it's cool to see the other side of it.

01:01:15.603 --> 01:01:20.030
Right, it's cool to see the dad Tiger, not the you know old blooded killer that he used to be.

01:01:21.514 --> 01:01:21.833
I love it.

01:01:21.833 --> 01:01:24.768
Yeah, he's become more human, exactly.

01:01:26.302 --> 01:01:32.028
He's showing more of his human side, exactly when that was a closed behind door thing for so long.

01:01:32.842 --> 01:01:33.242
Exactly.

01:01:33.242 --> 01:01:40.925
It's cool to see him kind of growing as a human right and being the dad that he wanted to be his entire life.

01:01:40.925 --> 01:01:41.306
Right.

01:01:41.306 --> 01:01:42.568
It's pretty cool to watch.

01:01:47.436 --> 01:01:48.197
Yeah, I will say I mean.

01:01:48.197 --> 01:01:48.898
Ok.

01:01:48.938 --> 01:01:54.750
I will say it's, it's interesting and it it almost sucks to be Charlie right now.

01:01:54.750 --> 01:01:58.394
Right, because he's living in the shadow of his dad Is I think he's OK.

01:01:58.394 --> 01:02:05.501
He's doing OK right, but it's like Could he be set up for failure, because he'll never be as good as that?

01:02:05.501 --> 01:02:07.878
Probably nobody ever will.

01:02:08.010 --> 01:02:10.000
Oh, I don't know if I would say that yet.

01:02:11.153 --> 01:02:11.876
Well, we don't know.

01:02:11.876 --> 01:02:13.699
Right, we don't know that.

01:02:14.030 --> 01:02:15.496
I'm just saying it's just in.

01:02:15.496 --> 01:02:17.918
Doc thinks Charlie's better than Tiger.

01:02:19.394 --> 01:02:22.856
I don't know if I would say better, I think I think just saying it's hard to live up to.

01:02:22.856 --> 01:02:25.110
Sure, absolutely.

01:02:25.110 --> 01:02:26.195
I wouldn't disagree with that.

01:02:26.195 --> 01:02:29.659
I think, if anybody can do it, I think it's Charlie.

01:02:29.659 --> 01:02:31.632
I think he's got.

01:02:31.632 --> 01:02:38.000
He's got everything behind him To be as successful as he possibly can be Right.

01:02:38.351 --> 01:02:39.516
Imagine he's got backyard.

01:02:40.289 --> 01:02:40.851
He's got a.

01:02:40.851 --> 01:02:44.041
He's even got a father that's been there and done it right.

01:02:44.041 --> 01:02:48.074
So there's advice that comes from Tiger that other players don't get or ever going to get.

01:02:48.615 --> 01:02:48.916
Totally.

01:02:49.190 --> 01:02:50.155
And it's up to him.

01:02:50.489 --> 01:02:53.219
It's really up to him, because he has everything in his toolbox.

01:02:53.219 --> 01:02:54.202
It's up to him, it is.

01:02:55.045 --> 01:03:02.679
It is so it is, and he's how many seems like he's got the love for the game, so yeah, it's going to be so fun to watch.

01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.177
So much fun.

01:03:04.177 --> 01:03:05.771
So much fun.

01:03:06.751 --> 01:03:09.934
OK, any of you guys watch the.

01:03:09.934 --> 01:03:13.342
Was the Graham, the Thornton or what was it called.

01:03:13.869 --> 01:03:14.492
Grant Thornton.

01:03:14.994 --> 01:03:22.380
Grant Thornton, I was I was too busy Watch the Champions Tour the World that the four world.

01:03:24.530 --> 01:03:25.313
That's a great name for it.

01:03:26.190 --> 01:03:26.391
Right.

01:03:26.471 --> 01:03:27.775
This the senior writer cup.

01:03:27.775 --> 01:03:31.373
Yes, well, what did you do?

01:03:31.373 --> 01:03:33.757
So do you like this idea?

01:03:33.757 --> 01:03:35.416
Did I thought it was great.

01:03:36.110 --> 01:03:38.596
Yeah, I thought I enjoyed seeing them out there.

01:03:38.911 --> 01:03:39.793
It was fun watching them.

01:03:39.793 --> 01:03:55.336
Teams yeah, it's funny how the teams, when these happen, they go right to country Canada playing with Canada, you're playing with Europe, you know it's those country lines are deep, what shows you why the writer could mean so much.

01:03:55.336 --> 01:03:58.375
I would like to see more of these.

01:03:58.375 --> 01:03:59.599
You know really.

01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:05.663
I think the ladies don't get enough credit for how good they are.

01:04:08.170 --> 01:04:08.371
Great.

01:04:09.429 --> 01:04:10.012
Yeah, thank you.

01:04:10.769 --> 01:04:11.793
Agreed, I agree.

01:04:13.449 --> 01:04:18.081
Do you have any females, women's players in new level gear right now?

01:04:19.750 --> 01:04:25.253
Currently no, there are Conversations happening.

01:04:27.190 --> 01:04:27.711
It's coming.

01:04:30.117 --> 01:04:33.034
Conversations happening, but you're just conversations happening.

01:04:33.034 --> 01:04:35.311
That's what he's kind of doing Good stuff.

01:04:35.311 --> 01:04:37.679
I know, but I can still give him shit for it.

01:04:38.451 --> 01:04:41.972
Absolutely, absolutely Stay tuned.

01:04:42.675 --> 01:04:44.713
All right, Matt's a fiend bro.

01:04:46.590 --> 01:04:48.873
I'm not a fiend, I just I.

01:04:48.873 --> 01:04:50.518
You are a fiend, is it?

01:04:50.518 --> 01:04:52.173
He's not a fiend, he's a journalist.

01:04:52.173 --> 01:04:54.016
I just like poking.

01:04:54.016 --> 01:04:55.434
I like poking the bear.

01:04:55.434 --> 01:05:02.389
I'm waiting for the OK, I'll tell you Jesus, but that's not going to happen.

01:05:02.389 --> 01:05:05.001
No, sir, anybody got anything else.

01:05:05.001 --> 01:05:08.505
Dan, you got nothing.

01:05:08.505 --> 01:05:13.034
Now, all right, jeremy, jeremy, still, he's probably got 16 clubs in his cart right now I have a couple.

01:05:15.311 --> 01:05:16.865
One of them might be a demo.

01:05:16.865 --> 01:05:21.570
Seven iron the wet is our great, the irons are great, the utility is great.

01:05:22.295 --> 01:05:23.382
The hybrid is really solid.

01:05:23.382 --> 01:05:26.384
You can't go wrong with any of it.

01:05:28.940 --> 01:05:45.230
Hey, I put a couple of those red hazardous shafts in my UEI and or the NLU and the my hybrid because after what I hit there I was like whoa, ok it this new that RDX line has been awesome for us.

01:05:46.134 --> 01:05:47.438
We are selling a ton of them.

01:05:47.438 --> 01:05:50.384
They are out there quite a bit.

01:05:50.384 --> 01:05:58.507
It fits everybody that makes so many different weights and so many different flexes and that stuff that I can put it in anybody's hands between black and red.

01:05:58.507 --> 01:06:07.929
I can put it in anybody's hands and find something that works Easy, love it, I mean.

01:06:07.929 --> 01:06:08.650
All good, all right.

01:06:08.650 --> 01:06:16.289
So I have a little business out of town next week so I'm going to be doing a little bit of a demo.

01:06:16.329 --> 01:06:27.458
I have a little business out of town next week, so I'm going to be giving the keys to the Cadillac to Mr Keys over there Home.

01:06:27.730 --> 01:06:30.599
Yeah, dad's not home again, all right, so.

01:06:33.710 --> 01:06:36.338
The episode next week may be a little delayed.

01:06:36.338 --> 01:06:37.121
Until I get back.

01:06:37.510 --> 01:06:42.400
Well, next next week's guest he actually got his car stolen.

01:06:42.601 --> 01:06:43.123
Yeah, that was.

01:06:43.771 --> 01:06:45.978
Yeah, his MacBook was gone.

01:06:45.978 --> 01:06:58.074
He found his golf clubs down the street Dumpster in a dumpster, so hopefully you can still join, so I'll have to hit him up, but yeah, he got the clubs back, so number one priority.

01:06:58.795 --> 01:07:04.958
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, he had some towels that he was selling and they took those two.

01:07:05.521 --> 01:07:06.202
Yeah, they did.

01:07:06.202 --> 01:07:11.815
Yeah, for those that don't know, we're talking about blind squirrel golf, so hopefully, I said the message I got.

01:07:12.469 --> 01:07:13.092
I said damn it.

01:07:13.092 --> 01:07:14.418
Pieces of shit everywhere.

01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:16.730
Yeah, they suck.

01:07:16.730 --> 01:07:17.673
They're the fucking worst.

01:07:17.869 --> 01:07:21.434
No, I just leave, not your leave alone, yeah right.

01:07:21.735 --> 01:07:21.916
Yeah.

01:07:22.610 --> 01:07:24.438
And just fucking idiots.

01:07:24.570 --> 01:07:36.496
They're just dummies, because that golf club, you know the sad, worth more than the more than the right stick that you're not going to be able to use because it's tracked and totally yeah, idiots.

01:07:37.431 --> 01:07:38.775
Oh, that's so funny.

01:07:39.251 --> 01:07:40.260
I mean it's not funny, but it's.

01:07:40.260 --> 01:07:44.539
They probably saw that they were blades, so they just can't put them in the up.

01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:45.742
No, you know what they saw?

01:07:45.829 --> 01:07:47.014
They're they're not new levels.

01:07:47.014 --> 01:07:47.597
We don't want them.

01:07:49.335 --> 01:07:53.077
Oh exactly, this game gets weird.

01:07:55.001 --> 01:07:55.764
All right, give it.

01:07:55.764 --> 01:07:58.081
Give them the website, doc, what's the website?

01:07:58.485 --> 01:07:58.809
where they go.

01:07:58.809 --> 01:08:02.541
W W, w dot, new level golf dot com.

01:08:02.541 --> 01:08:05.592
It's all there.

01:08:06.690 --> 01:08:08.193
They ship from Scottsdale.

01:08:08.193 --> 01:08:12.996
From the room that he's in right there, they do Check out the demo program.

01:08:12.996 --> 01:08:13.773
It's awesome.

01:08:13.773 --> 01:08:19.176
I was telling Doc before we hopped on oh that's something I want to do.

01:08:19.176 --> 01:08:19.893
I would that.

01:08:19.893 --> 01:08:21.332
So why?

01:08:21.332 --> 01:08:23.297
Golf has a training aid called the pressure plate.

01:08:24.260 --> 01:08:24.421
Yes.

01:08:24.690 --> 01:08:26.918
Oh, oh, oh, holy crap.

01:08:26.918 --> 01:08:40.939
I won't get into it a lot of it, but, wow, it has done wonders for a swing flaw of mine that I have had a problem with for years and it has helped me.

01:08:40.939 --> 01:08:45.380
Just wildly, wildly impressive.

01:08:45.380 --> 01:08:53.618
So if if you're having some issues with getting to your left side, posting up and rotating, go check out the pressure plate.

01:08:53.618 --> 01:08:54.801
Shout out to Marcus.

01:08:54.801 --> 01:08:56.176
He's the one that recommended it to me.

01:08:56.176 --> 01:08:58.417
It's unbelievable.

01:08:58.417 --> 01:08:59.713
It's helped me out so much.

01:09:01.511 --> 01:09:12.115
I had my clubs all cleaned up and I didn't want to hit in the backyard with them, so I just grabbed the new level club, because I tell Doc how I put the strict zones back in the bag.

01:09:12.115 --> 01:09:12.872
It was.

01:09:12.872 --> 01:09:18.958
I had Can't keep stuff from him and so I grabbed the new level and I was hitting it.

01:09:18.958 --> 01:09:20.216
I'm like man, this feels really good.

01:09:20.216 --> 01:09:21.574
I can't believe how good this feels.

01:09:21.574 --> 01:09:33.220
So I built the six iron up with the same irons that I have in the strict zones and I took that with me to Wild Horse today and, yeah, the new levels are probably going back in the bag.

01:09:33.220 --> 01:09:34.693
It just is.

01:09:36.350 --> 01:09:36.572
It is.

01:09:36.932 --> 01:09:40.110
It is so good, good Lord, it is so good it's.

01:09:40.110 --> 01:09:40.813
It's.

01:09:40.813 --> 01:09:50.595
It's not as forgiving as this right now, but when you pure it, oh my God, it's so good Chills down, oh yeah.

01:09:50.595 --> 01:09:54.972
It was let me know, when you want to come through, Matt?

01:09:54.993 --> 01:09:56.609
we'll we'll figure out what you have.

01:09:56.609 --> 01:09:56.890
You need.

01:09:58.650 --> 01:09:59.876
Yeah, that's that.

01:10:00.409 --> 01:10:04.917
You probably won't commit to it, but yeah, Well well, if I do, it'll be.

01:10:05.171 --> 01:10:06.636
I'll give you more than 15 minutes.

01:10:06.636 --> 01:10:11.020
He already has the shafts yeah the possible shafts.

01:10:11.712 --> 01:10:12.494
He already has them.

01:10:12.595 --> 01:10:14.952
Yeah Well, you should.

01:10:14.952 --> 01:10:19.496
You should see the collection I have have now compared to when you were here last.

01:10:19.496 --> 01:10:20.836
It's oh boy.

01:10:21.789 --> 01:10:22.192
Quarter.

01:10:22.192 --> 01:10:26.818
Oh yeah, they make documentaries about people like Matt.

01:10:26.818 --> 01:10:30.759
Yeah we're on.

01:10:30.798 --> 01:10:32.903
TLC's six pm on Wednesdays.

01:10:35.170 --> 01:10:35.612
He's going to be.

01:10:35.612 --> 01:10:37.378
He's going to be on Netflix with his own show.

01:10:37.378 --> 01:10:38.673
This was a pro pool.

01:10:38.673 --> 01:10:40.471
Oh, this one Pro pool.

01:10:41.449 --> 01:10:45.489
Yeah, yeah, oh too funny.

01:10:45.489 --> 01:10:46.729
Hey, everybody too.

01:10:46.729 --> 01:10:48.778
Also check out the Olson.

01:10:48.778 --> 01:10:51.559
He actually has a release coming next week he does.

01:10:51.599 --> 01:10:52.161
Yeah, he does.

01:10:52.161 --> 01:10:52.976
Is the next week, or is this?

01:10:52.997 --> 01:10:53.158
week.

01:10:53.158 --> 01:10:54.350
I think it's Friday.

01:10:54.953 --> 01:10:55.534
Thursday or Friday.

01:10:55.534 --> 01:10:59.060
Yeah, so he's got some clubs coming out.

01:10:59.170 --> 01:10:59.893
You hear about your buddy.

01:10:59.893 --> 01:11:02.375
I love how everyone was asking what's the price?

01:11:02.375 --> 01:11:04.121
Which story?

01:11:05.570 --> 01:11:10.640
That he's a dollar a putter that he's in both of the best male and female players in the world.

01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:11.212
You're right.

01:11:11.252 --> 01:11:12.216
Yeah, crazy.

01:11:12.216 --> 01:11:14.536
Yeah, I think Taylor Mids going to buy Olson.

01:11:16.551 --> 01:11:18.610
You know it wouldn't surprise me yeah.

01:11:19.051 --> 01:11:20.336
And they may already have.

01:11:20.336 --> 01:11:29.305
Yeah, hopefully they don't destroy what, like what they Callaway did, was too long, true, oh?

01:11:30.434 --> 01:11:39.139
don't let the brilliant minds and the brilliant craftsmen do their shit Right, just like this, and then put it in those players' bags.

01:11:39.139 --> 01:11:48.636
You know, titleists did not slap a freaking horrible logo on a Scotty camera and they're like, hey, we'll just put a little titleist down here in the corner.

01:11:48.636 --> 01:11:59.515
Yeah, and some of them, some of them, but like Voguey, they let Voguey do his thing, they let you know, they let them do their things and they keep it under their umbrella.

01:11:59.515 --> 01:12:03.913
So if they let, if that happens, and they let Logan do his stuff, kudos to him.

01:12:04.476 --> 01:12:05.431
Yeah, yeah, totally.

01:12:06.250 --> 01:12:13.015
Yeah, the, the, the one of ten putter that I have of his sold on eBay for forty two hundred dollars after this.

01:12:13.015 --> 01:12:17.378
So there's one right now for the copper insert.

01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:24.271
OK, yeah, so you're going to sell yours, you're.

01:12:24.372 --> 01:12:25.561
you're a big investment guy.

01:12:25.561 --> 01:12:26.710
You're a big investment guy.

01:12:26.810 --> 01:12:30.981
I posted that picture of my collection and I'm like no, these are not for sale.

01:12:30.981 --> 01:12:36.643
And then that auction ended and I went well, maybe one might be for sale.

01:12:36.643 --> 01:12:40.739
Because maybe that's a lot of golf trips right there.

01:12:40.819 --> 01:12:44.676
Yeah, you know I'll say this though I am super excited for Logan's.

01:12:44.676 --> 01:12:46.195
That's a huge opportunity for him.

01:12:46.731 --> 01:12:53.860
Oh my God, big time, huge opportunity for him Life to put a putter in the right hands.

01:12:53.860 --> 01:12:56.333
Triple your money in a week.

01:12:56.333 --> 01:12:59.956
Yeah, yeah, put it in his hand, and then he did wins.

01:13:00.216 --> 01:13:00.818
And he won.

01:13:00.898 --> 01:13:03.676
Exactly, he's crazy.

01:13:04.029 --> 01:13:12.613
So it's, let's let's hope Scotty continues to put well with it and now he was shit for a long time, very long time.

01:13:12.613 --> 01:13:17.679
Oh yeah, anything else coming up this weekend?

01:13:17.679 --> 01:13:19.416
I can't think of anything big.

01:13:19.416 --> 01:13:22.717
You know we're doing this Tuesdays, hoping for.

01:13:22.717 --> 01:13:27.801
You know, as the PGA tour gets here, we'll have a little bit better insight for some information that's been released.

01:13:27.801 --> 01:13:32.177
So a little bit more current on the episodes.

01:13:32.177 --> 01:13:37.319
Not a full two days between when we record this to when it goes out, just several hours.

01:13:38.310 --> 01:13:46.515
It might allow to call Joe out for this Southern dudes match tomorrow or Saturday, you can do whatever you want.

01:13:46.609 --> 01:13:47.935
This is an open range.

01:13:47.935 --> 01:13:50.295
My friend, their balls already on the mat.

01:13:51.149 --> 01:13:54.118
Deal, I mean oh, hey, doc, you need to get.

01:13:54.118 --> 01:13:56.636
You need to get on the Loup golf club band.

01:13:56.636 --> 01:13:58.573
Why are you go Loup golf?

01:13:58.573 --> 01:14:00.234
Yeah, download the app.

01:14:00.234 --> 01:14:01.876
I'll text it to you or just look it up.

01:14:01.876 --> 01:14:08.773
Loup golf, it's a wagering app where you can set up a matches they use your gin.

01:14:08.773 --> 01:14:12.176
And you can do over under.

01:14:12.176 --> 01:14:16.975
You can do skins, you can do CTPs, you can do everything, but it takes the money and holds it.

01:14:17.550 --> 01:14:25.489
Yeah, so when you are playing, when me and you are playing, matt can bet on either of us from home or on scores or whatever.

01:14:25.489 --> 01:14:26.676
I can bet who's going to win the match.

01:14:26.676 --> 01:14:29.219
I can bet over you over under on Joe.

01:14:29.789 --> 01:14:32.158
Look, I'm already really bad at sports betting.

01:14:32.158 --> 01:14:35.177
I do not need it.

01:14:35.759 --> 01:14:37.413
Well, we're from Vegas, I can help you.

01:14:37.413 --> 01:14:39.717
I won't take it today from a stranger.

01:14:39.949 --> 01:14:41.773
So did you yeah.

01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:42.783
There you go.

01:14:43.649 --> 01:14:46.033
So it's, it's kind of cool, it's kind of cool.

01:14:46.194 --> 01:14:52.001
Yeah, it's a cool app, so we're trying to get many people on it because they're it's.

01:14:52.001 --> 01:14:57.018
It makes it more fun the more people you know on it there's this is.

01:14:57.378 --> 01:15:04.822
This is what's cool about it is when you're playing For that, when you have like.

01:15:04.822 --> 01:15:07.135
When Joe and I were playing so high, we had a match going on.

01:15:07.135 --> 01:15:08.796
We also had people betting on us.

01:15:08.796 --> 01:15:22.918
Each of us they Joe had some couple, I had a couple plus our match, and you know it comes down to it and Joe on the last holes, like I got a, I got a birdie, this to win my bets, and so it kept them engaged.

01:15:23.529 --> 01:15:24.655
Yeah, a little extra pressure there.

01:15:25.453 --> 01:15:26.597
Yeah, yeah, I love it.

01:15:26.911 --> 01:15:27.814
It's really good, I love it.

01:15:28.255 --> 01:15:28.496
I'm in.

01:15:29.871 --> 01:15:33.871
Yeah, and we're hoping to have those guys on here shortly so.

01:15:33.871 --> 01:15:38.052
Joe said that all kinds of interviews behind my back, and that's what I do.

01:15:38.911 --> 01:15:44.076
I'm here for I just, I just drink a bunch of IPA's and I hit people up and I'm like, hey, you want to jump with the podcast?

01:15:44.076 --> 01:15:45.997
And they're like it sounds good to me.

01:15:50.050 --> 01:15:50.613
All right everybody.

01:15:50.613 --> 01:15:52.037
Thank you so much for tuning this week.

01:15:52.037 --> 01:15:57.282
Everybody on the chats in on YouTube, Nick and Jed.

01:15:57.282 --> 01:16:00.619
Thank you guys, so much for chatting with us.

01:16:00.619 --> 01:16:03.838
This will be out Wednesday afternoon.

01:16:03.838 --> 01:16:08.978
I got to go take my K Christmas shop in tomorrow, so in finals and school.

01:16:08.978 --> 01:16:11.618
So I'm a little bit and I got built some clubs for Stephen.

01:16:11.930 --> 01:16:15.220
So yeah but it will be out and you guys can check it out.

01:16:15.220 --> 01:16:18.916
It'll be on YouTube later on the week and you guys have fun.

01:16:18.916 --> 01:16:26.478
Next week I'll probably be, you know, tuning in through the back channels just to make sure that everybody stays in line.

01:16:26.478 --> 01:16:31.494
All right, Joseph, bring us home.

01:16:32.149 --> 01:16:33.898
Yeah, thanks for everybody tuning in.

01:16:33.898 --> 01:16:35.594
Shout out new level.

01:16:35.594 --> 01:16:37.970
Shout out true, we're big believers in that brand.

01:16:37.970 --> 01:16:39.543
Shout out Rodin jumping on.

01:16:39.543 --> 01:16:40.130
It's been a while.

01:16:40.130 --> 01:16:44.597
It's been like since episode number 10, since he's been on, I think him and Eva were on.

01:16:44.597 --> 01:16:46.052
Oh, that's true.

01:16:46.855 --> 01:16:47.993
Yes, you're like a year ago.

01:16:48.770 --> 01:16:49.493
Yeah, it's been a while.

01:16:50.270 --> 01:16:53.685
Episode 13 and 14 originally, and then was on again with Eva later.

01:16:53.750 --> 01:16:54.594
Yeah, there we go.

01:16:54.594 --> 01:16:59.368
We were on with Liam and that just didn't work out, so yeah that's true.

01:16:59.530 --> 01:17:03.438
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's, he's English anyway.

01:17:05.515 --> 01:17:06.457
Who cares?

01:17:06.457 --> 01:17:09.243
Well, Rodin, thank you for jumping on.

01:17:09.243 --> 01:17:10.198
I'm going to see you.

01:17:10.198 --> 01:17:13.136
Saturday, friday Absolutely, I'm swinging my new level.

01:17:13.136 --> 01:17:14.595
I'm, I'm, I'm Right.

01:17:14.755 --> 01:17:16.712
Saturday morning, whatever you want to do.

01:17:16.733 --> 01:17:17.716
We'll make it work.

01:17:17.716 --> 01:17:20.838
I will let you know I haven't been to Arizona in a long time.

01:17:20.838 --> 01:17:25.555
I'm not a big believer of Arizona, but I'm I'm a new man now, so I'm excited to get down there.

01:17:27.376 --> 01:17:28.057
Hey, what did you say?

01:17:28.572 --> 01:17:30.398
Every time I've gone to Arizona I've gotten in trouble.

01:17:30.398 --> 01:17:32.613
We're got a ticket or something, it's just a show.

01:17:33.729 --> 01:17:35.537
You and I will absolutely get this all going.

01:17:35.537 --> 01:17:36.935
I believe we'll be good to go.

01:17:37.155 --> 01:17:37.597
There we go.

01:17:37.597 --> 01:17:39.036
We're soul golfing this weekend.

01:17:39.036 --> 01:17:44.103
We're so good, yeah, we're hitting soul, soulther and Dunes this Saturday.

01:17:44.103 --> 01:17:45.953
Shout out, brett, oh, you're joining us.

01:17:45.953 --> 01:17:48.015
Rant Randon Golf Club.

01:17:48.529 --> 01:17:50.256
Those Chelsea cows are Maricopa.

01:17:51.331 --> 01:17:53.895
Hey, yeah, yeah, man, I'm excited to see it.

01:17:53.895 --> 01:17:56.037
It's been a long time, thanks, for having me on.

01:17:56.037 --> 01:18:07.993
I can't wait to see everybody Tell your homies, tell your friends, we're here for you every single week, now on Tuesdays, live on YouTube and we'll catch you next week, because I got the keys later.

01:18:07.993 --> 01:18:31.529
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