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What is up everybody?
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Thank you so much for tuning into this sad and somber episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast.
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The American team got their asses whooped over in Rome to the surprise of not a lot of people, even though we did want them to win.
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They did not come through.
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So we're going to talk about it.
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We're going to chat about what happened, how things could change, and was the European team just really fricking good?
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So we got Joe.
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How you doing tonight, man.
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I'm good yourself.
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Oh, dandy, just dandy.
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Dan is in the house.
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How's it going everybody?
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Hello, sir and Jay Mark, how you doing?
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Man Doing.
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Well, how about yourself?
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Hey, still, I'm going to rep this until they lose again.
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I mean, it's going to happen sooner or later, but hey, rebels born one week off and then they're going to go kick some real ass.
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So the only team that can win is the loss of a team that can win inside a legion right now.
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Exactly Because the Raiders aren't doing it.
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Oh, my goodness, that was another shit show for them.
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Holy, do we want to get into that?
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No, no, I think so.
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All right, so a little bit of business, take care, of course.
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That's the business side of things.
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So how much writer cup did you guys watch?
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I watched quite a bit other than like between the times of like 1am to like 530am.
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But other than that I was tuned in.
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Yeah, the only time I didn't watch was Saturday when we were out at Coyote Springs when it was live.
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But which?
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was.
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That was like the most interesting day.
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Yeah, what happened at the end?
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There was kind of crazy.
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Yeah, I mean I was texting you guys like hopefully you watched a bit of this, because it was it got it got interesting.
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We were getting tidbits coming through and and I mean hats off to the worst media coverage in the history of golf, talking about how the team is ununited and Hatgate with the oh yeah, speaking of Hatgate here.
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Yeah, that's what we're going to give away during this episode.
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So it was interesting, like I mean it was.
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I don't know if it's just like the reporting or just people making shit up or like just taking hearsay, but it sounds like a lot of it was just bullshit.
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Like a lot of the stuff coming out was just I don't know if, I don't know if the team just played it off like it was bullshit, but it it sounded like it was one thing after another.
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That was just like trying to get people riled up or or.
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But from what I could tell, I mean I don't like Patrick Cantley said he didn't wear a hat, yeah, whistling straights like and it was a protest for him not being paid.
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I don't.
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I find that hard to believe, but it came out and I don't know the reporting, just like yeah, it was like breaking news Patrick Cantley's anti American moving to.
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Canada and playing on the Canadian tour because he hates playing for America.
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I mean I would love it because I don't like him very much.
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But you know we also need to.
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We need a villain to like a villain's.
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Great for the game, obviously, and I don't know if that's what they're trying to build up.
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But he would be a good villain too, because he always wears black.
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He's got that rat face.
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Yeah, he's a he's a great villain, but it just seemed like.
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You know, of course I'm rooting for Patrick Cantley and the Ryder Cup, like absolutely.
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Just like I'm not a huge fan of Patrick Reed, but, man, he got you fired up for Captain.
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America was amazing.
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Yeah, exactly it.
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Just it seemed odd, I don't know.
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I don't know if there's just people just making shit up or what, but it was, it was interesting.
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And that that Saturday made it even more interesting, like the drama, like, and it was so funny like they're answering in the press conference like two days in a row, like, oh so you're getting married, because it's not, you don't want to have a tan line, like and like where'd you hear that Twitter?
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You know?
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yeah, just it's just I thought it.
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I thought it was funny when they were like again and again, and again, and then Max so much chibed it and goes, hey, look, it's all because he won't wear a hat.
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Yeah, everything is because Patrick won't wear a hat.
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Yeah, I mean, and speaking of Max, like what a fucking dog dude, he's a, he's a man.
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He proved himself in these situations.
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Totally, totally.
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All right.
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Jeremy you're on mute.
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I was just going to say didn't Max finish 71 and 0 or 7 0 and 1 or something like that?
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Well, he played in five sessions for.
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Ryder oh, total that's got you.
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He was 3, 1 and 1.
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He was the highest earner, though.
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Yeah, he got three and a half points.
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Yeah, and I think the next closest American player only got two.
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Yeah.
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Good showing by him man.
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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I mean he, he seems like the guy that on the team that would, you know, have that passion for it Just kind of oozes out of him, you know, such as you see.
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Tyler Faden Fairway's post where it said, like Max Homer's most recent, like X-Ray yeah.
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And it had a chest and it was his pit bulls in his chest.
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That was so good yeah it was funny.
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He's got the dog in him, man.
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And I love how Max gave like hell of a credit to Joe you know you're taking a drop here and that that putt that he made like to even like extend the hopes of US on the final day.
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Like was clutch, all right Big time.
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The Ricky concession.
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What do you think, Dan?
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I didn't catch that.
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I didn't watch much Rider Cup so I didn't even know what concession.
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So who was he playing?
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He was playing.
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Fleetwood, fleetwood.
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He was on 16.
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And a tie, or yeah, if they, if he.
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Strictly was two down right.
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Yeah, if Fleetwood makes the putt.
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The tie was the best that they could do and that won them the cup basically.
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And he lagged it up there and had a three footer and Ricky conceded it yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, you never know when those nerves are going for a clinching putt.
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Yeah, you're not giving.
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I'm not giving anybody a three footer.
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Right before that, McIntyre missed a 12 incher yeah.
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I don't know what Ricky was thinking there, but maybe just you know, it was just the end.
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I know what Ricky was thinking they were going to lose regardless.
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I know exactly what Ricky was thinking.
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What was I mean there?
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Yeah, you can drop it, go ahead.
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He's trying to find it.
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Ricky wanted the and I don't know if they even announced it yet, because I didn't see it the concession award.
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No, that's that one to Justin Rose.
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Oh well, that's what he wanted.
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That's why he did it.
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He wouldn't have got it.
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He played one round of golf.
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That's why he did it, though he's Ricky, just wanted the award.
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He wanted the concession award.
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It's the MVP of the right.
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They should have.
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Gave that to Scottie Schaeffer, the concession award Number one player in the world not winning a match, yeah, not winning a single point.
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Nine and seven getting just that's inexcusable, that's straight trash yeah, so is that the biggest disappointment?
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I wouldn't know if it's the biggest disappointment.
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It's the biggest shock.
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I would never would have thought that number one player in the world I mean, yeah, he wasn't going in in good form, but still, Scottie Schaeffer won what?
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Five times something like that this year, but yeah get a one 10 more times yeah.
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I mean to get a goose egg and just to leave with nothing but a handful of tears.
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Rough.
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So, dude, just can't put, you can't the the European players on the, the DP World Tour.
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They play a world tour.
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They play all over the fucking place.
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Pga Tour has you know, we go to Mexico, the Bahamas, canada, I don't know, Bermuda.
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But it's, it's like an American tour, it's not a world tour.
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You know, the HSBC over in China used to be kind of a big event and there was a when the CJ Cup was overseas, but those aren't happening anymore.
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So it's, it's an American tour.
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Are the world rankings like?
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Is it a not a justified system if you're only playing in America and getting points on a world scale?
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I mean, yeah, I don't know.
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I mean a lot of, a lot of other players from across the world have opportunities to come play over here, but you're not playing against the fields of the world.
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So better fields.
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Yeah, I mean we get better fields over here, you know.
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But in some times some of the players go over to the DP and they play in that occasionally, specifically when they're over there for a bigger tournament like the open.
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A lot of them play the week before Scottish Open.
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Scottish Open yeah.
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So I mean they do get around.
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But you know, like Asian tour, you know I saw Sung Jae and who was a young Hanon shot like, or the Korean team shot like 71 under this weekend to take the title home for that, but I don't know.
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I mean I think I think most of the world's best players do flock to the PGA tour and we do have like the cream of the crop for the most part.
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But there are like scenarios where someone could be playing really well up in Indonesia and they're over in Australia playing a tournament, you know, and they could get beat in that situation.
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But I think obviously PGA tour is the gate right.
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That's the highest, that's the NBA, that's the NFL.
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So I think it is a good mix of the world and we play different.
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We do play different areas, I mean that's, the grass is coastal.
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But, but yeah, I mean the, the Solheim Cup.
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We lost PGA junior Ryder Cup or the junior Ryder Cup.
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They got throttled and this I think I think the biggest thing about it right when it comes to like Ryder Cup, solheim Cup it's hard to win an away game in golf right now, like that's like Rory Rory's comment like the biggest achievement in golf right now is winning a Ryder Cup away, because it hasn't happened in a while.
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I don't know, I just.
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I just still think the best players in the world.
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If you have them on your team, you should play better.
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And in going going one in seven and alternate shot, I mean, jesus Christ, we get, we split that.
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It's looking right there.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I don't think Zach Johnson was a absolutely terrible coach, right, like I think he could have had a little more fire under him, but he's been there before and you know there's there's some confidence there.
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I think it comes down to his captain's picks, because his captain's picks went what Four, eleven and four or something you know.
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The only the only captain's pick that showed up was JT.
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Sam Burns was garbage, which if you would have just replaced Sam Burns with Keegan, that could have made a huge change, which Keegan was in a better spot than Sam, I believe, if I remember correctly, he was, and so if you just put Keegan there instead of Sam Burns, like that could have changed things.
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And then, who was the other captain's picks?
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I don't know, jt, sam.
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Burns.
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Morcala, Morcala played pretty trashy.
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That showed up for the most part.
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I mean in singles.
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He had a point and a half.
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He was the highest score of all the picks.
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Yeah.
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So I think I think him and Scottie was kind of a bad pairing, but I just think.
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I think it comes down to the captain's picks.
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I don't know if Zach played favorites with people, but I think he could have placed Keegan in there for sure.
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I mean, even Cam Young potentially could have done something other than like more.
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I mean, who knows what's, who knows right.
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But I think I think Sam Burns should not have played in this Ryder Cup.
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I like Sam Burns a lot, but he was on a, he was on a shit streak and I don't.
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I don't think he should have been there.
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And then, going back to the date, what was it?
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10 of the 12 hadn't played in five weeks.
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Yeah, you know it's that's kind of hard.
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But I mean yes it does mean more to your.
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It does mean more to the Europeans.
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Colin Mayer, a cow, played in four matches, had one point.
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Xander Shafi played in four matches, had one point.
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Scotty Schaeffler played in four matches, had one point.
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Spieth played in four matches and had one point.
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I mean you should expect more than five points to five players.
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I mean they're top 20 in the world.
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Yeah, patrick Cantley, brian Harmon and Max Holm over the only guys that got more than two points, or they got, you know, more than a point.
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I think the homer Harman pairing was fantastic.
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I think that was so good.
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Yeah, max went three, one and one, overall one and own singles one and one of four, sums one on one and four ball.
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Yeah, you can't.
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We was just a dog on that Saturday, just in the last three holes.
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And that final birdie was in that fucking dark.
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You know, it wasn't as dark as it didn't seem as dark on TV, but it was dark.
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Yeah, rory had four points, so he was the leading points of everybody in the event.
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Trell Hatton, victor Hovland had three and a half.
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But yeah, the the Nikolai Hosin garden was the only one that didn't score a full point.
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He got a half a point.
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Yeah, I just think the European team gets more united about that, Like like they were saying on TV, like, oh, you got to do is fucking write Seve's name on the chalkboard.
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Yeah, you know, and they're like ready to go, like fired up it's.
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You need a strong leader for us and I don't think Zach was that.
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I think it was decent, but you need someone to light the fire.
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So I don't know it all come down to day one.
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It really comes down to day one.
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They put they didn't win a point.
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They got lit up.
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You got fucking.
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Yeah, they got marked the alternate shot.
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So I it happens, it seems to happen every writer Cup the alternate shot.
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Just I don't.
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I don't get it.
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I don't understand why these guys weren't out playing alternate shot the last five weeks, just just to get used to hitting with somebody else.
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And I mean it.
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Do you think?