Sept. 20, 2023

239: Kiawah, Coyote, Knee Pain and WHAT IS WRONG WITH GOLF

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Ever wanted to traverse the beautiful golf courses of Kiawah Island Resort? Strap in and ride along with Dan as he recounts his unforgettable trip, sharing his experiences from the Ocean Course to Cougar Point, Oak Point, and beyond. Get a sense of the challenging greens of Coyote Springs as Joe relays his experience in the VGN Major, highlighting a triumphant 24-foot putt for a birdie.

We’re also bringing in Matty G to highlight this weekend’s golf Forecast and shed some light on his victorious outing. From there, we transition to the recently reopened Robert Trent Jones Designed course at the Tamarack Resort in Cascade, Idaho, and the upcoming Shriners Open event with a new unique offering of the Club360  and hear Jimmy Walker’s take on the FedEx Fall Series, this was a shocker.

As much as we love golf, we can’t ignore the challenges it presents. From high equipment cost to potential exploitation by equipment companies, we unpack these issues and explore their implications on the accessibility of the sport. We also discuss the need for better course etiquette, the importance of teaching newcomers the ropes and maintaining golf course expectations. Join us on this fascinating journey through the golfing world, where every swing tells a unique story.

Here’s a link to Matt’s Venmo for the Southern Highlands Raffle. Send over $20 to get an entry in the raffle and a chance to tee it up with us at SoHi.
https://venmo.com/u/Mathew-Wangrycht


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Chapters

00:01 - Intro and What's on Tap

01:27 - Dan's Trip to Kiawah Island

06:39 - Golfing Experience at Coyote Springs

15:45 - Tamarak Resort Reopening

21:50 - Knee Pain Relief for Matt Finally!

29:54 - Upcoming Golf Event and Course Discussion

40:13 - SoHi Raffle Info

45:35 - What is Wrong with Golf

59:31 - Managing Expectations and Etiquette in Golf

01:06:10 - Golf Course Issues and Customer Service

01:18:49 - Integrity and Teaching New Golfers

01:26:08 - The Importance of Proper Golf Fitting

Transcript
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What is up everybody?

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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast.

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And boy, we always have a lot of shit to talk about.

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But we got a lot of shit to talk about tonight.

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Dan was just over on the East Coast playing golf at Kiwa.

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We got a major at the VGN Weather guy came through with a big W.

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We got our interview with Patrick Lindsey coming up on Wednesday.

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We got a little contest, kind of a contest, a little raffle that we're going to be talking about later on.

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I got my knee checked out today I'm going to give a little shout out to that place because old man is back and reflection Bay I got around it at reflection Bay with Trey, and then we have a date for our very first King of the Green event.

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So a lot going on.

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But, dan, let's put oh.

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And then the headline topic of today's episode is what is wrong with golf, and there's not a question mark on that for a reason, because it's a statement what is wrong with golf.

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And we're going to all dig into that a little bit later and chat about it.

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But, dan, welcome back.

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Thanks, thanks.

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Yeah, it was pretty awesome out there.

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The weather was good, the humidity was up on a couple of days Got a little sweaty out there, but the golf was great and the company was good too.

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So can't ask for much more on a golf trip.

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All right, let's give the rundown when all did you play.

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So I was at Kiwa Island Resort so we played the ocean course, the Cougar Point, Oak Point, Osprey Point and Turtle Point pretty much all five of the public courses there and it didn't disappoint the obviously.

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The ocean course is what it is it's tough, it's beautiful.

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It's it wasn't super windy, so we got pretty lucky, but if the wind had been blowing like 20 to 30, it would eat your lunch.

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And but it was.

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It was very playable.

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Although the greens were the slowest of the bunch there, they were still in great shape and just just amazing scenery.

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The clubhouse is sick, the beach it was.

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It was quite the experience.

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It was awesome.

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Did.

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Did you get a feel for Phil's record round there?

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Like it was some special.

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Yeah, considering because I believe that weekend it was.

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It was pretty windy that weekend.

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I don't remember 100 percent, but I think I think I remember the wind being up and yeah, it's, there's some, there's some holes there where, if you don't you know, have any little bit of guidance.

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We had a cat, we had a caddy that joined our group.

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One of the guys that joined us got a caddy so he kind of gave the heads up on you know lines off the T box stuff.

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But if I wouldn't have heard his advice, I yeah I probably would have hit it into the beach or in with the alligators multiple times.

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How was the pro shop?

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A lot of Peter Malar out there, or what.

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Lots, lots of Peter Malar, lots of Johnny oh and lots of footjoy.

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I've been a lot of footjoy, yeah, lots of footjoy.

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And then, of course, matt's favorite is puka hats.

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The hats that don't fit my head by Puka Yep no new era Damn good to know new era hats.

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No new era.

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So I was disappointing but new era, Don't get me started.

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But it was.

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It was a beautiful clubhouse, nice golf shop, people, the people were great.

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You guys eat.

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Did you guys eat lunch afterwards there?

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I thought yours are hanging out on the patio.

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We did.

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We had a few, we had a few cocktails down there and well, quite a few, and and yeah, we went down to the beach.

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But when we got off the golf course it was like I don't know what was going on.

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But there was like an influx of beautiful women there and me being single, you know I was just like, oh, this is nice, but no joke, we got off, we got off the golf course and there was probably about I'm not even exaggerating like 30 girls that were just stunning man, what is what's going on?

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It happens every day at 2 pm.

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Yeah.

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It's like the rain in.

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Florida yeah, it was, it was nice.

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How did Tommy and Jared play out there?

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They actually did pretty good.

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Jared was a little.

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He got a little frustrated the first day, but he he recovered, made some good shots.

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And then Tommy he's the same thing he was.

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He was struggling a little bit with a couple of his swings but he turned it around at the end of the trip, started hitting more solid shots and black and pins, especially the last round.

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Tommy played really well last night.

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I miss those guys, man.

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Yeah, yeah they're.

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They're busy man.

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Those guys really haven't been playing a whole lot of golf and that's good, you know life gets in the way sometimes.

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Absolutely Just ask, adam.

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Oh, exactly, exactly.

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So what was your?

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What was your favorite course that you played?

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Ocean course, for sure, yeah Is it like a big notch above the others, or For me it was just because of the whole experience, the setting.

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I had the most beautiful clubhouse.

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It was literally on the beach.

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You can see.

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You can see the whole back nine is is right on the water so you can see everything.

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The front nine plays a little inland, but just overall that was.

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That was awesome.

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And then, honestly, I liked Cougar Point, the second best, and that's the Gary Player course over there.

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Oh yeah, that was so much fun.

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The layout was sick for me personally.

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I think those were the.

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It was the best condition course.

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The teams were super tight fairways with flush, just just an awesome time.

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But the others were were great they were great.

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Does it?

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Does it deserve a second trip back, or would you rather go somewhere else?

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I would.

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I would definitely go back, but I would still go someplace else first, because there's still so much to see.

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Yeah, so so much golf for me to golf courses for me to see before I go back there.

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Yeah, awesome, great, great trip.

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I know you guys are planning it for a while.

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While you were gone, we had our VGN major out at Coyote Springs and Coyote was flexing their muscle a little bit.

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Greens were quick in placements for a little tricky course was overall in good shape, would you say Joe?

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Oh, yeah, 100%.

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Yep, yeah, so the greens are fast.

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It's that course is.

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I didn't think they were that fast.

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You didn't think that really?

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No, well, I put my ass off, like I literally put my ass off on Saturday.

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I mean I was draining 12s, 15s, 18s, drained one from like 24 feet for a birdie like so I don't know, I didn't think they were that quick and I was just dripping them in the hole all day.

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Yeah, I mean they weren't like 14s but compared to what we have been playing lately, that yeah.

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I haven't played.

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That's the fastest greens I've played on, probably since TPC.

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I didn't think they they weren't deathly like fast.

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Well, how many downhill breakers did you play with?

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Because?

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I mean quite a few, because if you're at Coyote Springs you're probably getting a few downhill breakers or uphill breakers or side winding breakers, or you know there's there's most putts out.

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There are not straight.

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I mean I was happy I had.

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I had 32 putts, so I wasn't you know, and that was with the three jack.

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So yeah, I wasn't upset with my putting.

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It was other things that went.

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I wish, I really wish, I had taken my stats and my putts and all that, because I swear I probably have 10, 11 putts on the front line.

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Wow.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, that the pin location on to the par five was like on the left edge it was it was.

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Yeah, there were.

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There were some pins that were pretty, pretty rough out there for sure.

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The overall 14 14 was a tough one.

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But see, and I may, I one putted that I I was.

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I came up short of the green, chipped it all the way.

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I was in the front right, chipped it all the way over the hill, pat down down the little valley up, and then it curved down to the left and so I had a straight uphill putt.

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Yeah, straight uphill putt.

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Yeah, that's the key there.

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That exactly is the key there, because I didn't have many others.

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I had a like I had like a left to right four footer and I had been putting my ass off all day and just slipped it.

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But he's great man, I mean it's, it's so I don't even know if it, if you could consider it underrated.

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I just feel like it's like not well known because it's such a gem of a course, like if you are willing to take that hour drive, like it's completely worth it and it's probably like bang for buck compared to courses in Vegas.

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It's worth it, I mean absolutely.

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You know, like you can't get much better out there.

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I mean, even like out of towners, don't get charged as much as they would at pay you like it's completely worth it.

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It's a gem, it's and, like I said, I don't know if I'd consider under the radar, but just like it's not known, you know, I guess that is under the radar, but it's, you know, if you're coming out here it's, it's sick.

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How many bunkers were you in?

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I started off a few in the front and there was.

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It was pretty heavy, the bunkers were pretty heavy.

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There was a lot of sand.

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There was a lot of sand, like a lot of sand, yeah.

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And then then I get to 18 and the front left bunker.

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I, my approach came up short.

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I had to chip over it to that flag that was right on the left edge.

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And so, instead of just taking my medicine, chipping out to the right and trying to, you know, get two butts, I'd like, oh, I can, I got this shot.

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I got fill in my bag.

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Yeah, I can do this.

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And so I chipped it and I mean, if it goes, another two inches, I was sitting pretty, but it hit the rough and bounced back and dropped straight down in that bunker.

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And, yeah, that area, that bunker, there was no sand in, and it took me three, three swings to get it out because it was so firm and hard packed.

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Well, I don't know if you saw Manolo's golf lessons today, but he was talking about stop complaining about there's no sand in the bunkers.

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But I did play with Tyler Paul, mr Three, pup Bogey himself, he, he was county.

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He kept, he, he kept telling me that's two shots out of the bunker.

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I could have saved that's three, that's four, because he just kept hitting the lip or he couldn't get it out.

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And I think at the end of the round it was like six or seven, you know, strokes where he just hit the lip and it came back at him or he couldn't get it out and he only finished like six or seven strokes back.

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Yeah, I told him, you know, just don't go with the bunkers.

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They're out there, they're not hitting you, don't aim there.

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I got up and down a lot from that I got out.

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Had not all up and downs, but I got out a lot.

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I was really happy with my sand game and just that last hole.

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Just ate my lunch and I'm going to complain about if there's no sand in the bunker, if every other bunker you've been in is packed like flour, and then I get in one looking for consistency out here.

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Yeah, that's all for consistent.

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That's all, just give me the same shit across the course, but I get it.

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It's not easy to do, but the weatherman was was a big winner, yeah, so let's bring in Matty G to talk about him out there and before that news looped were the news this morning so we got a couple of people reach out to it was.

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It was awesome.

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Yes, I definitely saw him.

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I jinxed it by raising my hands and being excited that the audio file played this morning.

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So, yeah, good, good test.

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Yeah, it failed miserably.

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Oh, here we go, all right.

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What's up everybody.

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This is the first place winner of the Hearts Division I got a TARC, what a great tournament.

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I honestly shocked myself with how I played that day.

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Took about a two month hiatus.

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Man, I mean I did not golf at all.

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I went to the range, maybe once or twice and came out.

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Great.

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The irons were flush and the driver and putter were working.

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So that's all you really need to play good and that's how it went that day.

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So great tournament, love the group I was in and overall VGN just a fantastically to be in.

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But looking forward to the upcoming weekend, temperatures are going to be much, much cooler 84 on Saturday.

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We're only up to 87 on Sunday.

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Might be a little breezy, but conditions are staying dry heading to the weekend.

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So a great golfing forecast and a great first weekend of fall as it begins on Friday.

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So looking forward to it and have a great rest of the week.

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You know, you know, sometimes it just takes a little bit of a break.

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It's, that's sometimes that's all it takes.

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Really like like for nutcases and psychos.

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Like us, like where we have to or else we'll start shaking Sometimes.

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You just got to take a break.

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My issue would be OK, it's been 18 hours, is that long enough?

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Yeah, ok it's been two days.

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Is that a long enough break, or do I need to take?

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a longer break.

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I think the the minimum break you need to take is like two weeks.

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Oh, you're talking like time off.

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Yeah, yeah, time off.

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Like you got a clock out pick a vacation.

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Well, I'm going, I'm going to Boise this weekend.

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I'll be up there Thursday, friday, saturday, sunday.

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So that's about as much taking off that I'm going to be able to Muster, but I am going to go up to it's hard, though.

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That's the thing, is the course up there?

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So I may grab a rental set.

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That's the thing.

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I mean for like us, that are like psychos, like love the game and just love playing.

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I mean it's so hard to just drop the sticks and take the break, because it's what feeds our soul, kind of like, you know, for us soul golfers.

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Yes, hey, steven Jackson is in the chat right now.

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What's up, brother?

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He's taken a matter of break moment.

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He said one of these he's he's helping us with some potentially new artwork and so those of you on watching on YouTube can get a little glimpse that maybe something coming down the line.

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That's the first draft, so thanks for doing that.

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Sir.

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Appreciate it.

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Didn't respond to your text because we're doing this, so that's why I wasn't ignoring you.

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All right.

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Also, yeah, I talked about this a little bit a couple weeks ago, but Tamarack Resort up in Cascade in Idaho it's it's about an hour, hour and a half north of Meridian and Eagle they are opening back up.

00:16:01.225 --> 00:16:06.825
They have nine holes open right now and I got to play the course years ago before it shut down.

00:16:06.825 --> 00:16:14.225
It's an absolutely spectacular Robert Trent Jones design on a lake up in elevation.

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It's at 7000 feet, I think.

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Just gorgeous country, beautiful and there's bald eagles everywhere and the recession kind of hurt it really bad and they ended up shutting down, but they got it back up and running.

00:16:29.544 --> 00:16:42.736
They said nine holes are rolling right now and so we may take a drive up there and go check it out, because definitely one of that's an amazing golf course and definitely worth a trip up there if you're in that area.

00:16:44.567 --> 00:16:49.625
And then Wednesday Wednesday well, when this comes out, today we're interviewing Patrick Lindsey.

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He is the director of the Shriners Open event, which is a month away, and he was on last year.

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We had a great time chatting with him.

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There's some crazy new thing that they're doing called Club 360, where they put another level on top of the hill that has oh, it's on top of the hill.

00:17:10.980 --> 00:17:14.585
Yeah, yeah, it's on top of what was on top of the hill.

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It's a second hill is going to be two stories.

00:17:18.118 --> 00:17:27.544
Yes, hmm, yes, and they call it Club 360, because you're going to be able to see people coming in on nine, people coming in on 16.

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People hitting on 17, people coming in on 18 and people leaving on 10.

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Hmm, and one and one.

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Yeah, so it's that's pretty damn cool.

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Yeah, so it's bad for it yeah.

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And then working on getting our media passes, and so you know we'll be out there as much as we can.

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I know it's tough for you guys during the week and it's tougher for me on the weekend, so, uh, well, I know we'll figure something out, but we're going to get out there and check it out and see everybody all the Vegas guys that playing it and and that what did.

00:18:02.532 --> 00:18:03.134
What did you think?

00:18:03.134 --> 00:18:04.569
Did you guys watch any of the Fort net?

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I know, dan, you were out, so you probably didn't really care.

00:18:07.991 --> 00:18:08.974
I didn't watch a ton.

00:18:08.974 --> 00:18:17.474
I mean I watched a see Heath coming in because obviously I'm a fan of see Heath, so I didn't want to see him blow it like he did at Greenbrier.

00:18:17.935 --> 00:18:18.076
Hmm.

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But, he tried to.

00:18:21.884 --> 00:18:24.769
He, I mean he tried to, but uh yeah, dude.

00:18:24.769 --> 00:18:27.737
See, heath is one of my favorites.

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Glad to see him win and studies instead of Max Houma for the third year in a row, but um yeah.

00:18:35.847 --> 00:18:46.237
I didn't watch time but I mean, there it was, it was, it was a good one, you know, and it's, this fall season is kind of it's going to be interesting.

00:18:46.237 --> 00:18:51.875
I saw that Jimmy Walker said it was bullshit, but you know, did he?

00:18:51.955 --> 00:18:52.797
really, what did he say?

00:18:54.208 --> 00:18:55.290
Yeah, he said the fall.

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The fall PGA tour is bullshit.

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But you know he had exemption status and you know who knows.

00:19:02.601 --> 00:19:03.525
Who knows what he's doing.

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He's probably fucking smoking some meat somewhere, I don't know.

00:19:07.026 --> 00:19:07.627
Why is it?

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bullshit.

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I mean, we'll see how it plays out right, because this is going to be the first time that we see it play out in this fashion.

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But uh, I think, I think it's good, I think it makes it pretty equal for a lot of the pros.

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It's going to be interesting and you know, jt probably wants to typically been in that field, but he's got Ryder Cup coming up so he wanted to get his new feels in and you know, there might there might have been some players that wouldn't typically be there.

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Like maybe next year, like we might not see those bigger names.

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But yeah, I think, I think, I think it's going to work out decently.

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I who knows?

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This is this is the trial fall season, so we'll see what happens.

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Yeah, I mean come January, when the guys who played well in the fall fall whatever you call it, the fall series are in some events that they weren't in after the playoffs.

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They're going to be fans of it.

00:20:04.923 --> 00:20:07.772
Right yeah, and I think it gives you an opportunity.

00:20:07.772 --> 00:20:11.713
It gives you an opportunity If you're out, if you're out of the top players.

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I mean, play your way into events.

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Exactly.

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I don't know why you'd be calling it bullshit.

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It's play well, get back in.

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You know, I don't know.

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It's equal opportunity for everybody.

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Did Jimmy Walker play?

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in it?

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I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure.

00:20:29.528 --> 00:20:31.795
Oh, you guys might notice we're missing somebody tonight.

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That guy is a little under the weather, so we wish Jeremy was a big fan of Jimmy Walker.

00:20:36.980 --> 00:20:41.016
Yeah, and he would know if Jimmy Walker was playing, because he's that guy, he would.

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But I'm wondering if he didn't get in because JT did.

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He took his spot.

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That would be.

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I don't know.

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That would be All right.

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So we'll see how it plays out.

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I'm not going to be able to put the interview out on Friday because I won't be here, but I'm probably going to put it out Monday morning.

00:21:02.256 --> 00:21:12.731
So Monday or Tuesday, or maybe we even hold it till next Friday, because it'll be closer to the Shriners and a little bit be a little bit more pertinent information.

00:21:12.731 --> 00:21:18.233
So keep an eye out for that and then let's see what do you want to do next.

00:21:18.233 --> 00:21:20.910
Let's go, we'll save that for later.

00:21:20.910 --> 00:21:26.336
So I have had an issue with my knee for a little over a year.

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This happened right, right before we went to band in, right, joe.

00:21:32.185 --> 00:21:36.512
Yeah, but it was three years ago now Two years Shut up, it was last year.

00:21:36.512 --> 00:21:37.434
It was grief.

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Was it last year?

00:21:39.137 --> 00:21:41.060
Yeah, yeah, it was last year.

00:21:41.060 --> 00:21:46.050
Yeah, I mean, I'm just Jones in for some banded, so it just feels a long time ago.

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Yeah, it was.

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It was summer last year.

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I heard my knee move in some furniture around and it's been bugging me ever since.

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It's been getting worse and worse and worse and I really hope my lackluster performance on the golf course lately is in direct relationship with the how bad it has been, because that would be that would be exciting for me.

00:22:11.498 --> 00:22:12.105
I went to my doctor.

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He referred me to an orthopedic.

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I went to the orthopedic, which was nice.

00:22:15.904 --> 00:22:17.025
I got in right away.

00:22:17.025 --> 00:22:21.503
He touched my knee like, oh, here's here, here's here.

00:22:21.503 --> 00:22:26.413
Okay, yeah, let's get you an MRI, they'll schedule it, we'll have you back here probably three, four weeks.

00:22:26.413 --> 00:22:36.460
And I was like, okay, and Marcus is a new member of the VGN and he's been helping me out on some of my swing fundamentals.

00:22:38.710 --> 00:22:45.704
And he told me about John Patrick, who is somebody who works at it's called Las Vegas Pain Relief Center.

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It's here in Henderson and he's a motion therapy, doesn't believe in invasive stuff, basically a chiropractor that works on the entire body.

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And I went in there today and he did some crazy ass.

00:23:04.863 --> 00:23:05.505
Shaman, shaman.

00:23:05.505 --> 00:23:09.018
Yeah, joe said it sounded like you were in a teepee.

00:23:09.018 --> 00:23:25.724
And he found that my meniscus had popped out of where it was supposed to be and he put it back in and I tell you it is some of the most excruciating pain I have felt in my life.

00:23:28.290 --> 00:23:34.911
The stuff he was doing to me, just the stretches and the pressure, and but we've.

00:23:34.911 --> 00:23:38.201
He moved it and I felt it pop and he goes.

00:23:38.201 --> 00:23:39.284
Ooh, did you feel that?

00:23:39.284 --> 00:23:42.858
And I said, yeah, he goes.

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Yeah, I just put your meniscus back in place.

00:23:47.455 --> 00:24:05.224
So he was explaining that your meniscus is like a donut that sits underneath, it's between the bone joints and it had rotated and it's supposed to rotate and mine wasn't, it was stuck and so, as it my body was trying to turn it, it was, yeah, wasn't good.

00:24:05.224 --> 00:24:19.023
So he did that, did a couple other things, and said stand up and the pain was gone, gone and he said you know, you're going to be sore for a couple days.

00:24:19.023 --> 00:24:26.204
And the his assistants, are like yeah, don't be surprised if you see bruising or anything like that.

00:24:26.204 --> 00:24:28.082
It can be a little bit of a pain.

00:24:28.082 --> 00:24:29.888
It can be.

00:24:29.888 --> 00:24:32.536
It can get pretty nasty and he was working on you pretty hard.

00:24:32.536 --> 00:24:35.605
So I, but I am pumped, I am.

00:24:35.605 --> 00:24:47.298
It was amazing that somebody knows what they're doing looked at it, assessed it, did some stretches, did some things to get it and and fixed it.

00:24:48.825 --> 00:24:56.773
Sometimes I need to some natural fucking movement, or you don't always need surgery or medication, yep.

00:24:56.773 --> 00:24:58.849
So does he take insurance?

00:24:58.849 --> 00:25:03.670
No, oh, yeah, no, yeah, one of those guys.

00:25:04.506 --> 00:25:05.288
One of those guys.

00:25:05.288 --> 00:25:14.805
But you know what I might sleep tonight, like really good, because I'm not going to be tossing in turn and trying to find a comfortable spot for my leg.

00:25:14.805 --> 00:25:20.557
They sit, and I mean I think it was fucking breaking half.

00:25:20.596 --> 00:25:20.978
Who knows?

00:25:21.325 --> 00:25:22.509
Yeah, I squatted.

00:25:22.509 --> 00:25:24.829
I did a squat today.

00:25:24.829 --> 00:25:28.276
I haven't done a squat in a year.

00:25:28.276 --> 00:25:31.356
You know, it doesn't hurt.

00:25:31.356 --> 00:25:35.404
When I got get up right now, I mean it's, it's incredible.

00:25:36.086 --> 00:25:38.717
So you know I said take a break from the game.

00:25:38.717 --> 00:25:42.872
Yeah, don't be, don't be dialing it, don't try and fix your swing.

00:25:42.872 --> 00:25:44.115
Currently, for the next few days.

00:25:44.115 --> 00:25:45.924
Well don't tweak anything.

00:25:46.906 --> 00:25:47.769
I'll tell you what I'll do.

00:25:47.769 --> 00:25:49.134
Your body, rest your body.

00:25:49.194 --> 00:25:49.476
Yeah.

00:25:50.760 --> 00:25:59.394
Yeah, so if anybody wants to check some out, just if you're in some kind of pain that you can't get figured out, go check them out.

00:25:59.394 --> 00:26:00.724
Las Vegas Pain Relief Center.

00:26:00.724 --> 00:26:02.340
John may be interested where they located.

00:26:02.340 --> 00:26:07.988
It's on Horizon Ridge, right at Eastern it's.

00:26:07.988 --> 00:26:10.170
It's on Horizon Ridge Just.

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I'm sure I could use some like useful stretching.

00:26:14.028 --> 00:26:14.711
Oh my, I mean.

00:26:14.711 --> 00:26:17.184
And then he goes hey, let me, let me adjust it real quick.

00:26:17.184 --> 00:26:27.789
And so he had me go like go like this and turn and I'm sitting down and he pushes down and he bear hugged me and like twisted and it just went and I was like whoa, that's.

00:26:27.789 --> 00:26:30.826
You've seen those chiropractor guys that?

00:26:30.905 --> 00:26:41.343
like you lay down and they put something around your neck and they just fucking pull and it's like yeah, and that's what I was afraid Scorpion or some shit it's scary Dan, I like those are scary man?

00:26:41.343 --> 00:26:42.606
Yeah, I was.

00:26:42.606 --> 00:26:44.376
I was a little nervy to begin with.

00:26:44.376 --> 00:26:51.204
But even if you trust them, it's like dude, you're about to fucking tear my school out of my head.

00:26:51.204 --> 00:26:56.172
Oh, the, the, the amount of pain that helps putting me through and he told me he goes.

00:26:56.192 --> 00:26:57.578
I'm sorry, but I have to do this.

00:26:57.578 --> 00:27:03.996
I have to assess you, I have to find out, I have to do this and I'm like I said I can take it.

00:27:03.996 --> 00:27:06.711
Just I may scream like a little bitch, but I can take it.

00:27:06.711 --> 00:27:13.204
I mean, there was one point I'm like, oh my God.

00:27:13.204 --> 00:27:24.794
He was like I'm sorry, but yeah, I'm sorry, but yeah I'm, I'm Thrilled absolutely thrilled.

00:27:24.814 --> 00:27:32.160
Yes, yeah, I sit, take a break, get it back going, because you're going to have to walk a lot in a year.

00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:32.943
So, oh, yeah, I know.

00:27:34.152 --> 00:27:35.724
And that's why I was doing this, because I want to be ready.

00:27:35.724 --> 00:27:49.461
I mean, I'm I'm doing really good on the weight loss, I'm, I'm down 28 pounds still still rolling, and now, with this added comfort level, I'm looking forward to that coming down even more.

00:27:49.461 --> 00:27:52.989
So yeah, I'm pumped for that, would Rob say.

00:27:52.989 --> 00:27:55.724
I'll show you how to take a golf break from the high ace for a couple of weeks.

00:27:55.724 --> 00:28:01.771
I don't know if you heard earlier, rob, we were saying how how long do you take a break for?

00:28:01.771 --> 00:28:08.281
Because me I was telling these guys that you know, after a day I'd be like is that a long enough break?

00:28:10.734 --> 00:28:10.935
Well it's.

00:28:10.935 --> 00:28:14.522
The thing is like Katie went to Canada and I'm like I had to take a two week break.

00:28:14.522 --> 00:28:17.704
I'm just fucking Jones and I'm like I have to get out.

00:28:17.704 --> 00:28:20.321
I have to get out because it's it's a drug man.

00:28:20.321 --> 00:28:21.816
The game of golf is an absolute drug.

00:28:21.816 --> 00:28:24.194
You played good too, yeah.

00:28:25.724 --> 00:28:32.318
They do say Dan, how long was your break before you teed it up at at Kila.

00:28:35.174 --> 00:28:36.946
I think it was a couple of weeks also, yeah.

00:28:36.946 --> 00:28:46.013
Yeah, we had been doing a lot of work at the Mac and, yeah, I didn't play for a good two, maybe even three weeks, and did you play well or like?

00:28:47.080 --> 00:28:48.873
did you play better than you typically would?

00:28:48.873 --> 00:28:51.704
Did you feel anything different?

00:28:52.876 --> 00:28:53.684
No, not really.

00:28:53.684 --> 00:29:00.724
I don't think I played any better or any worse, just kind of definitely showed a little bit of rust, that's for sure.

00:29:00.724 --> 00:29:09.238
But yeah, but no, it didn't really feel any different Two weeks I think is that?

00:29:09.317 --> 00:29:13.704
no, I'm sorry, rob just said at least two weeks, but play one round and then another two week break.

00:29:13.704 --> 00:29:22.684
So is is that like no golf activities whatsoever for two weeks, or am I allowed to hit balls in the back and putt?

00:29:24.038 --> 00:29:24.684
No, no, nothing.

00:29:26.179 --> 00:29:26.724
Don't touch a club.

00:29:27.287 --> 00:29:28.151
No touching the clubs.

00:29:29.875 --> 00:29:30.704
That's yeah, it's hard.

00:29:30.704 --> 00:29:36.511
I mean I chip a little bit in my backyard but Like no full swing, I would say no full swings.

00:29:37.186 --> 00:29:43.595
Oh man, when we went to New York and I went to the pier and I was like I just want to go hit some.

00:29:43.595 --> 00:29:46.921
It's been like five days since I've touched my golf clubs.

00:29:46.941 --> 00:29:49.134
Yeah, I know, I know it's fucking.

00:29:49.134 --> 00:29:52.114
It's addicts Sad news.

00:29:54.092 --> 00:29:56.644
Dan's not going to be able to make the finals here.

00:29:56.644 --> 00:29:58.684
Here's the list of the players.

00:29:58.684 --> 00:30:01.704
The highlighted players are in the finals for the VGN.

00:30:01.704 --> 00:30:02.776
I can't see anything.

00:30:03.967 --> 00:30:08.832
I'm not in the highlights, I'm sure no you're not in the highlights.

00:30:08.872 --> 00:30:11.584
That's hearts and there's spades and diamonds.

00:30:11.584 --> 00:30:16.482
Can't see anything Very very, very sorry.

00:30:16.482 --> 00:30:20.584
On your screen, joe, you're sitting in the eight spot right now.

00:30:21.776 --> 00:30:31.704
So, okay, pretty good, but there was a miss I'm going to have to miss Boulder, which, unfortunately, but oh, that's a good one, that's the door right there.

00:30:31.744 --> 00:30:34.238
But then we got national, and that's that's my spot.

00:30:37.395 --> 00:30:38.057
So that's your jam.

00:30:38.077 --> 00:30:42.663
Okay, so next a king of the green King of the green is back.

00:30:42.663 --> 00:30:44.815
It's been a while since we've held a king of the green event.

00:30:44.815 --> 00:30:48.724
It's a putting contest that we put on.

00:30:48.724 --> 00:30:52.512
I think Glenn was the last one who won Out at Revere.

00:30:52.512 --> 00:30:55.490
Dan won Before that.

00:30:55.490 --> 00:30:57.237
We're moving it.

00:30:57.237 --> 00:31:00.368
Joe did Joe.

00:31:00.388 --> 00:31:02.704
Joe won the very first one at legacy.

00:31:02.704 --> 00:31:03.207
Don't forget it.

00:31:04.724 --> 00:31:06.240
I'm not going to forget it.

00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:11.432
You're the first picture with the belt.

00:31:11.432 --> 00:31:17.666
We're moving it to Angel Park and we're going to do it during the week.

00:31:17.666 --> 00:31:19.160
It's going to be on a Thursday.

00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.463
November 2nd is the date we're looking at.

00:31:22.463 --> 00:31:24.823
It shouldn't be too cold by then.

00:31:24.823 --> 00:31:27.575
It should be great weather still in the October.

00:31:27.634 --> 00:31:29.181
So is it going to be on the putting course?

00:31:29.734 --> 00:31:31.278
It's going to be on the putting course.

00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:32.702
Okay, cool, that's cool.

00:31:33.044 --> 00:31:40.102
Yes, so I'm going to open it up to 32 players Haven't quite figured out the entry fee yet.

00:31:40.102 --> 00:31:46.356
I'm talking with Jed about that right now to see what he's going to be able to help us out with.

00:31:46.356 --> 00:31:48.922
Much love to that man for helping us out.

00:31:48.922 --> 00:31:49.798
I really appreciate it.

00:31:50.435 --> 00:31:52.099
Dude, that dude's doing a great job up there.

00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:52.580
It's fantastic.

00:31:52.580 --> 00:31:54.224
He really is, absolutely he really is.

00:31:55.214 --> 00:31:57.903
I wish I lived a little closer, just so I could go up there more often.

00:31:58.836 --> 00:32:00.095
I'm right there with you.

00:32:00.095 --> 00:32:01.078
It's on the other side of town.

00:32:01.078 --> 00:32:03.377
It's a great spot.

00:32:03.775 --> 00:32:08.276
If I'm going that far, I'm going to go ahead and go all the way up to Boise, because it's halfway.

00:32:08.276 --> 00:32:24.324
But what we're going to do is it's going to be tournament style bracket, so two players head to head match, play for nine holes and the winner goes on.

00:32:24.494 --> 00:32:28.124
It's a great spot too, because the little patio area overlooks the course too.

00:32:29.615 --> 00:32:32.436
So the winner goes on the loser.

00:32:32.436 --> 00:32:36.702
We're going to have a food and beverage ticket for everybody.

00:32:36.702 --> 00:32:50.347
So grab some food, grab some drinks, hang out and watch and it's going to be a great time and I think having it there, because that putting course is, it's not like not forgiving.

00:32:50.347 --> 00:32:54.804
It's not the Dustin Johnson putt thing that you were talking about last week.

00:32:54.804 --> 00:32:57.159
You can put it in the water.

00:32:57.895 --> 00:33:01.409
Yeah, I haven't played it since I was a kid, but I remember just like.

00:33:01.409 --> 00:33:04.019
How do I even get this putt towards the hole?

00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:12.041
Yeah, I mean it will challenge everybody, so that is going to be food and beverage tickets.

00:33:12.535 --> 00:33:17.063
Do we know if our beverage tickets are good at Coyote anytime?

00:33:18.425 --> 00:33:19.346
Did you not I?

00:33:19.468 --> 00:33:20.148
have two left.

00:33:20.148 --> 00:33:21.881
Well, we found some on the ground.

00:33:21.881 --> 00:33:22.837
So oh, you did.

00:33:22.837 --> 00:33:25.759
Yeah, probably not Right.

00:33:26.401 --> 00:33:27.443
I have no idea.

00:33:27.443 --> 00:33:29.761
You can call Chris and ask him.

00:33:30.776 --> 00:33:36.578
I'm just curious because I was at Smith's today and I was like should I toss these or should I hold on to them?

00:33:38.414 --> 00:33:39.016
Use them at Mitch's.

00:33:41.082 --> 00:33:43.487
And that's the question Are they good at Mitch's?

00:33:43.487 --> 00:33:44.921
We have to find out.

00:33:44.921 --> 00:33:50.326
I mean, I'm sure I could weasel my way into them being useful.

00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:53.756
Probably, probably.

00:33:53.756 --> 00:34:06.703
And then Tray and I played Reflection Bay talking about their new past column greens and I put a post out there on the on Dish.

00:34:06.703 --> 00:34:10.324
There we go.

00:34:10.324 --> 00:34:12.240
That about it.

00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:18.422
I said give it, be patient, be patient with it, because they are new.

00:34:18.422 --> 00:34:27.601
They did have a little bit more time than typical because they, you know, redid them all and of course it was completely shut down.

00:34:28.458 --> 00:34:29.081
When were they closed?

00:34:29.081 --> 00:34:30.539
Like six months since April.

00:34:31.181 --> 00:34:32.577
Yeah, so four.

00:34:32.577 --> 00:34:37.338
Was that five months, five months, and it's that.

00:34:37.338 --> 00:34:39.063
That grass is very unique.

00:34:39.063 --> 00:34:41.461
It it's going to take some time.

00:34:41.461 --> 00:34:45.045
If anybody has played Club of Sunrise, you know what they're like.

00:34:45.045 --> 00:34:48.704
It's just imagine a lot more undulation because reflection kept all that in.

00:34:49.666 --> 00:34:53.460
Yeah, so was it hard to see like the breaks, like how is it?

00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:54.161
Club of Sunrise?

00:34:54.161 --> 00:34:56.181
Would you consider it harder?

00:34:57.155 --> 00:35:01.846
No, I wouldn't consider it harder because the undulation is so good there.

00:35:02.005 --> 00:35:02.967
So you got to really feel it.

00:35:02.967 --> 00:35:04.961
You got to feel it with your feet kind of situation.

00:35:05.375 --> 00:35:05.976
It's it's.

00:35:05.976 --> 00:35:08.304
There's no finesse putting.

00:35:08.304 --> 00:35:09.639
You have to hit the putt.

00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:10.896
You know it's not.

00:35:10.896 --> 00:35:23.365
You know, if you see it breaking, you know five inches out to the right maybe only go to because the grass is going to slow it down.

00:35:23.365 --> 00:35:24.958
And it's it's not.

00:35:24.958 --> 00:35:28.815
It's not going to take that break as much as you think it's going to.

00:35:28.815 --> 00:35:35.342
I put it pretty well because I was chipping everything close, really quick or like slower.

00:35:35.342 --> 00:35:37.360
I would say slower.

00:35:38.135 --> 00:35:44.846
It's kind of like a Poana on a day after night, I know they've cut them a shit ton and probably rolled them a shit ton over the summer.

00:35:44.846 --> 00:35:52.842
So yeah, it's hard to say it's more like a sprouty grass, so it's like kind of just Well, the blades are.

00:35:54.436 --> 00:36:00.349
The blades are thick and it, just like chipping the ball, checks up like a son of a bitch.

00:36:00.349 --> 00:36:10.143
I mean you can absolutely fire at the pins with your, with your wedges, because it is going to stop around the green, very receptive.

00:36:10.143 --> 00:36:15.965
They, they rolled, I mean they were, they were slow, they weren't you know eights or or anything that bad.

00:36:16.114 --> 00:36:21.304
I feel like club at sunrise is usually pretty slow but it's like hard to see the putt.

00:36:21.824 --> 00:36:23.708
Yeah, so they were slow.

00:36:23.708 --> 00:36:26.855
There was a I don't know if it was.

00:36:26.855 --> 00:36:29.503
You know it's going to feed towards Lake Las Vegas, obviously.

00:36:29.503 --> 00:36:33.344
Right, well, I think I think it club at sunrise because they're a lot flatter.

00:36:33.344 --> 00:36:35.840
The brakes that are there are harder to see.

00:36:36.643 --> 00:36:38.782
Yeah, revere at reflection.

00:36:38.875 --> 00:36:41.659
You can, you can see the brakes, it's just you're on a mountain.

00:36:41.659 --> 00:36:43.139
So it's different.

00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:47.543
How much do you need to adjust for that?

00:36:47.543 --> 00:36:53.617
Yeah, so, but forces in good shape and glad it's back, I hope.

00:36:53.617 --> 00:36:54.561
Hope it alleviated.

00:36:54.561 --> 00:36:55.257
Did they do anything?

00:36:55.398 --> 00:36:56.722
else other than the greens?

00:36:57.155 --> 00:36:58.601
They mean they are the carts.

00:36:59.215 --> 00:37:01.123
They upgraded the clubhouse.

00:37:02.378 --> 00:37:03.280
The clubhouse is the same.

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:04.385
Nothing changed there.

00:37:05.034 --> 00:37:09.125
I saw they, they, they were promoting that they like changed, like the interior of the clubhouse.

00:37:09.186 --> 00:37:14.545
I saw More recently he didn't know the white tile, but I remember the white tile up top.

00:37:16.197 --> 00:37:19.760
But, the white and cream are pretty similar, so I mean you might have saw cream.

00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:20.996
You're older.

00:37:23.695 --> 00:37:24.980
But Pro Shop was the same.

00:37:24.980 --> 00:37:27.340
The outside was the same.

00:37:27.340 --> 00:37:29.161
They hired a lot more people.

00:37:29.161 --> 00:37:30.679
There's a lot more people working there now.

00:37:31.262 --> 00:37:34.710
Yeah, what they should have fucking done is put a fucking real range in.

00:37:34.710 --> 00:37:36.117
There is what they should have done.

00:37:37.900 --> 00:37:38.521
They have no room.

00:37:38.521 --> 00:37:40.101
They should have you hit balls into the water.

00:37:40.556 --> 00:37:43.545
That would be a little short area next to the cage.

00:37:43.545 --> 00:37:50.398
I mean, should they should have just netted that up and closed it so you can see some sort of ball flight?

00:37:51.275 --> 00:37:52.097
It's belly high too.

00:37:53.603 --> 00:37:57.324
Yeah, it probably worse, because the fucking they're all black.

00:37:57.324 --> 00:37:58.447
All the balls are black.

00:37:59.498 --> 00:38:00.583
Yeah, we didn't even go there.

00:38:00.583 --> 00:38:04.485
We just went right to the putting green and and was trying to get a feel for it.

00:38:05.496 --> 00:38:07.563
I could have leveled that, that putting green a little bit too.

00:38:08.958 --> 00:38:10.161
But it's, it was pretty good.

00:38:10.181 --> 00:38:10.945
It's pretty drastic.

00:38:10.945 --> 00:38:16.387
The putting green is pretty drastic elevation wise, but it's a great fucking course.

00:38:16.387 --> 00:38:20.306
Man Like I, because I was supposed to play with the guys and I was kind of bummed, you know.

00:38:20.306 --> 00:38:26.547
I just had to adult and go to work and I'm excited to get out there and and see what they do.

00:38:26.547 --> 00:38:29.222
I mean, you guys played on the first day.

00:38:29.222 --> 00:38:34.922
They were open, so obviously it's only going to get better and better, you know so yeah, I guess I didn't come.

00:38:35.114 --> 00:38:38.065
I think we need to play out there next month in October.

00:38:38.065 --> 00:38:41.503
I think it's going to be fantastic in October, so let's do it.

00:38:41.523 --> 00:38:42.106
We got to get out there.

00:38:42.106 --> 00:38:44.302
Hey, shout out Kyle Peters.

00:38:44.534 --> 00:38:45.619
Peter for the invite.

00:38:47.295 --> 00:38:48.056
So that is that.

00:38:48.056 --> 00:38:48.860
That is that.

00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:50.184
That is that All right.

00:38:50.184 --> 00:38:58.262
Last thing, before we get to what's wrong with golf, I'm going to put this up on the screen so everybody can see it.

00:38:58.262 --> 00:39:02.679
We are the.

00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.545
The SGA is hosting a social event out at Southern Highlands.

00:39:06.545 --> 00:39:11.280
We pretty bad as a vent that.

00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.827
I mean exclusive, as it was as you get, as you get.

00:39:15.916 --> 00:39:16.637
Yeah, the.

00:39:16.637 --> 00:39:19.184
It's a spectacular golf course.

00:39:19.184 --> 00:39:24.666
It's one of the premier prime private clubs in Vegas.

00:39:24.666 --> 00:39:32.128
I mean it's it's so high shadow summit as far as exclusivity and experience and just all around.

00:39:32.128 --> 00:39:38.206
Wow, we got to play it back last year at a Derek Carr tournament.

00:39:38.835 --> 00:39:42.885
Yeah, for those loyal listeners we we beat Derek Carr in a golf tournament.

00:39:43.275 --> 00:39:44.922
Oh yeah, we did, yes, we did.

00:39:45.496 --> 00:39:46.336
And that's why he left.

00:39:46.336 --> 00:39:46.998
He lost tonight.

00:39:46.998 --> 00:39:47.659
Did he not lose?

00:39:47.659 --> 00:39:48.422
Tonight Did he lose?

00:39:48.442 --> 00:39:53.903
I don't know, I wasn't watching I saw Chub get his knee bent the wrong way.

00:39:54.597 --> 00:39:55.262
Oh no, they won.

00:39:55.262 --> 00:39:56.045
They won by three.

00:39:56.045 --> 00:40:01.936
So all right, so in his beaches, dan.

00:40:02.697 --> 00:40:12.219
This is kind of sad for Dan because he can't play, because he's got the NFR, he's got adulting to do, so we have a spot.

00:40:12.219 --> 00:40:17.646
So Joe, jeremy and myself are going to play in this and we have a spot.

00:40:17.646 --> 00:40:19.099
So this is what we're going to do.

00:40:19.099 --> 00:40:25.005
Upon the screen those of you watching on YouTube is my Venmo.

00:40:25.005 --> 00:40:32.663
So we're going to sell a raffle ticket for 20 bucks so you can buy as many as you want.

00:40:32.663 --> 00:40:35.543
I mean, if you want to play in it, it's $265 for the event.

00:40:35.543 --> 00:40:36.976
This is a.

00:40:36.976 --> 00:40:39.164
It's not a private event.

00:40:39.164 --> 00:40:40.820
It's not a S and GA members only.

00:40:40.820 --> 00:40:45.362
Anybody can register $265.

00:40:45.362 --> 00:40:52.938
But we want the to try and you know, raise awareness of the show and play with some of the people that listen.

00:40:52.938 --> 00:40:57.838
So scan the Venmo, send us 20 bucks with your name.

00:40:57.838 --> 00:41:11.771
It is on the Tuesday, december the 5th, and the only thing that's covered is the golf we're not flying in, we're not paying your room.

00:41:12.014 --> 00:41:12.938
We're not buying your food.

00:41:12.938 --> 00:41:21.007
So if you ask, if you ask nicely, maybe we'll cover like a, you know, like a cheeseburger or something yeah.

00:41:21.007 --> 00:41:28.038
And if you get an emergency sandwich, yeah, you will pick up an East Sandow at the provide the East Sandow's.

00:41:29.755 --> 00:41:32.724
But if you, if you fly in, I'll come pick you up at your hotel.

00:41:33.474 --> 00:41:35.858
That's yeah, that's not a big deal and I can drop you off.

00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:42.340
There you go Taking care of, but we're not flying for you and we're not paying for your room, but we will pay for your golf.

00:41:42.340 --> 00:41:57.525
So if you want a chance to play one of the premier private resorts that's not a resort private clubs in America, in the world for that much, because it's pretty damn special, it's one of them yeah, it's 20 bucks.

00:41:57.545 --> 00:41:59.027
Top 30, maybe Top 30.

00:42:00.568 --> 00:42:03.059
Maybe yeah, I mean it's 40.

00:42:03.434 --> 00:42:07.335
The top 50, I'd say it's pretty freaking special, yeah.

00:42:07.655 --> 00:42:19.782
So yeah, Venmo me 20 bucks and we'll put you in the drawing and we'll do it live on YouTube in a couple of weeks and one of y'all will get to come play with us.

00:42:19.782 --> 00:42:22.615
So it's for 20 bucks, I mean.

00:42:24.139 --> 00:42:25.844
I mean this is as Vegas as it gets.

00:42:25.844 --> 00:42:27.358
Man, take gamble.

00:42:27.358 --> 00:42:30.061
You could play so high for $20.

00:42:30.061 --> 00:42:33.681
And we're Vegas podcast, we're gamblers.

00:42:33.681 --> 00:42:37.686
I mean Matt, matt, shit the bed on a parlay this weekend.

00:42:37.686 --> 00:42:38.719
That was probably more than that.

00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.304
So I mean, might as well just give it a shot, right.

00:42:43.974 --> 00:42:45.612
Just give it a shot.

00:42:45.612 --> 00:42:51.900
Give it a shot, all right, let's get that off and then we're going to go on to.

00:42:51.900 --> 00:43:11.358
So, after hearing a lot of conversations, after what took place at Coyote Springs because there was some slow play and I told everybody, I sent an email out to everybody the night before Don't come at me with slow play, because it's Coyote Springs, it's a tough course.

00:43:11.358 --> 00:43:14.742
Everybody's playing from distances further than what they're used to be playing.

00:43:14.742 --> 00:43:16.639
The greens are going to be fast.

00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:17.719
The course is going to be hard.

00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:27.606
It's going to be a five hour round expected, but still I still had people come at me with it slow play.

00:43:27.735 --> 00:43:34.623
So I started thinking, you know, because I left at like six, 50 in the morning or no, probably not that early seven, 30 in the morning.

00:43:34.623 --> 00:43:35.538
I got like five.

00:43:36.561 --> 00:43:41.467
Yeah, I left at six 15 and was still there at five.

00:43:41.467 --> 00:43:49.967
So yeah, yeah, it was a long day and much love to Jeremy and Favs for hanging out and helping me with it.

00:43:49.967 --> 00:43:53.163
I think it went off rather well.

00:43:53.163 --> 00:44:07.963
Coyote kind of messed up and didn't realize we had an 11 10 and 11 20 group, even though they had the cart signs a week ahead of time and they threw two groups out in between our 11 10, 11, 20.

00:44:09.085 --> 00:44:09.626
Seriously.

00:44:10.068 --> 00:44:14.679
Yeah, because we're sitting in the bar and these people come in and we're like what hold did you guys start on?

00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.530
We start on one and like how the fuck are you in here?

00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:20.297
and we still have guys on the course.

00:44:21.054 --> 00:44:21.577
That's weird.

00:44:21.577 --> 00:44:22.876
So yeah, they.

00:44:22.876 --> 00:44:24.338
I told the starter.

00:44:24.338 --> 00:44:28.827
I said hey, just tell my guys when they come up.

00:44:28.827 --> 00:44:33.005
Hey, you're 11 or you're 10, 15 or 10, 20.

00:44:33.005 --> 00:44:36.664
I'm going to put you out at at, you know, 10, 15.

00:44:36.664 --> 00:44:44.382
I'm going to move you up a little bit and I go just get, crunch us down at the back to get everybody on time.

00:44:44.382 --> 00:44:49.085
But that was like I don't know what you mean.

00:44:49.085 --> 00:44:49.927
Yeah.

00:44:52.139 --> 00:44:53.001
That's everything out.

00:44:54.414 --> 00:44:56.019
This says 11, 10.

00:44:57.375 --> 00:44:59.282
I have to go off this piece of paper.

00:44:59.302 --> 00:45:01.485
I'm sorry, I have to go off this piece of paper.

00:45:02.474 --> 00:45:04.240
I can't defect from the paper.

00:45:05.936 --> 00:45:07.181
So this had me start thinking.

00:45:07.181 --> 00:45:10.456
You know there's we're always talking about what we love about golf.

00:45:10.456 --> 00:45:14.164
Traded a little video with me while we were at reflection Bay called why?

00:45:14.164 --> 00:45:15.306
Why golf?

00:45:15.306 --> 00:45:21.766
And that's going to be fun to watch what people have to say other than what I said on that.

00:45:21.766 --> 00:45:25.762
But it got me thinking what's wrong with golf?

00:45:25.762 --> 00:45:39.925
There's so many good things that we love and and the camaraderie and the courses and and travel and and the play and the great shots that keep coming you back, but what's wrong with golf and what can be done about it?

00:45:39.925 --> 00:45:45.887
So put together a little list here and throw it up on the screen so you guys can see.

00:45:45.887 --> 00:45:56.871
And this was just some of the things that I think is wrong with golf, so I'll run this down here.

00:45:56.871 --> 00:46:03.617
So it says people that are listening can understand I have it's too expensive right now, just across the board.

00:46:03.617 --> 00:46:05.639
It's too goddamn expensive.

00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.405
And this isn't, you know, back in the day.

00:46:08.445 --> 00:46:12.434
So it was gas, yeah, right yeah we're paying $5 a gallon.

00:46:13.980 --> 00:46:16.759
It went up a dollar since I left it's insane.

00:46:18.215 --> 00:46:20.722
So across the board is too expensive Equipment.

00:46:22.617 --> 00:46:23.719
Beers stayed the same price.

00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:25.947
Just wait, wait, now you've let the bag out.

00:46:25.947 --> 00:46:27.641
They're like, oh shit, we can jack up beer.

00:46:27.641 --> 00:46:32.041
All right, equipment companies and their massive releases.

00:46:32.041 --> 00:46:37.063
There's zero regulations in golf shafts.

00:46:37.063 --> 00:46:43.860
They're like one company can say this is a stiff and another company can spec it and they say that it's regular flex.

00:46:43.860 --> 00:46:47.063
It's very confusing to the consumers.

00:46:47.063 --> 00:46:49.920
I think that's a thing that is very wrong with golf.

00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.186
There's too many new people.

00:46:52.186 --> 00:46:55.458
We've been talking about this for a while Too many new people in the game.

00:46:56.815 --> 00:46:58.340
Customer service is going by the wayside.

00:46:58.340 --> 00:47:01.824
We had out at out of coyote a couple of people.

00:47:01.824 --> 00:47:02.998
I mean the car girl.

00:47:02.998 --> 00:47:04.463
One of the car girls was amazing.

00:47:04.463 --> 00:47:07.222
The other one made you feel like you were inconveniencing her.

00:47:07.222 --> 00:47:08.974
The guy inside was amazing.

00:47:08.974 --> 00:47:10.661
One of the guys outside, one of the marshals.

00:47:10.661 --> 00:47:24.704
We were on the 17th, the part three, and he drove by four times while we were on the whole and it's like there are gas carts out there and you're trying to hit a shot and you're dude.

00:47:24.704 --> 00:47:30.764
So the customer service is going, going away and it's driving me nuts.

00:47:31.534 --> 00:47:32.780
The rules of golf are confusing.

00:47:32.780 --> 00:47:46.181
I think the USGA is doing a great job with the rules that they're posting on their Instagram account and I've been sharing those on the Vegas golf network page and collecting them in a highlight.

00:47:46.181 --> 00:47:51.978
So if you ever want to see some of those, that's a great place to go check them out, aside from their site.

00:47:51.978 --> 00:47:55.385
There's way too many golf ball options way too many.

00:47:55.385 --> 00:48:08.106
A lot of them do the same thing, but it's like a competition between these guys about who can do the best and it's really taking it out of the consumer's hands.

00:48:08.106 --> 00:48:12.625
There's just there's just too much too much going on with the golf ball in my opinion.

00:48:12.625 --> 00:48:17.085
Let's see wedges from grinds and materials used.

00:48:17.085 --> 00:48:19.000
It can be very confusing.

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:28.748
$1500 putters, just absolutely wild pro shops with crap offerings.

00:48:28.815 --> 00:48:30.177
I know Joe is a big fan of this.

00:48:30.177 --> 00:48:35.340
Yeah, yeah, yep, dick headed marshals.

00:48:35.340 --> 00:48:36.398
We were just talking about that.

00:48:36.398 --> 00:48:38.996
You know Dick headed more and then no marshals, and so ever.

00:48:38.996 --> 00:48:43.023
You have courses where it would be nice to have somebody come by and go.

00:48:43.023 --> 00:48:44.748
Hey, can you pick it up a little bit?

00:48:44.748 --> 00:48:45.556
You're falling behind.

00:48:45.556 --> 00:48:47.764
The group behind is complaining about slow play.

00:48:47.764 --> 00:48:52.442
You know there's ways to do that with also relates to cart girls.

00:48:52.822 --> 00:48:58.059
Just like driving by that, I think cart girls is probably worse than the marshals.

00:48:58.059 --> 00:49:00.324
But you can continue on the list.

00:49:00.324 --> 00:49:01.657
Shout out to Tray.

00:49:01.657 --> 00:49:02.621
Tuning in also.

00:49:03.215 --> 00:49:03.717
Hey, what's up?

00:49:03.717 --> 00:49:17.099
Tray Course etiquette I know a lot of the new players I blame for this, but there's courts etiquette and self awareness, and the self awareness is not just, you know, new players, it's old players as well.

00:49:17.099 --> 00:49:25.599
I understand situations where you're getting in your groove, but I mean you have to be aware of what's going on around you.

00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:33.646
And then, of course, we could always talk about pace of play, because it is absolutely insane.

00:49:33.646 --> 00:49:38.202
What's going on with pace of play out on the golf courses?

00:49:38.202 --> 00:49:40.568
Um, all right, so that's what I got.

00:49:40.568 --> 00:49:45.806
You guys um have anything you want to chime in or you want to talk about anything that I said.

00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:49.887
I mean we could probably just go down the list and break it down.

00:49:49.887 --> 00:50:02.822
I mean, there's not much wrong with golf if you're a golfer, right, like so you're to me like I'm just super stoked to be out there Number one right, absolutely.

00:50:03.974 --> 00:50:04.978
Obviously things can be.

00:50:05.518 --> 00:50:19.083
Obviously, things can be better, you know, and and it's the, it's the situations in everyday life, such as work or parenting or whatever the case may be, that can annoy you easily.

00:50:19.083 --> 00:50:24.047
Right, and I don't want to twist this into, we don't enjoy golf nowadays.

00:50:24.047 --> 00:50:40.445
I just think it for us being playing a little bit longer I mean, I've only been playing for five years, but five years ago courses were 30, $40 cheaper, right, and that's one of my biggest gripes.

00:50:40.846 --> 00:50:44.014
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, depending on where you play, right.

00:50:44.014 --> 00:50:50.588
So it has obviously gotten more expensive and there is inflation in the country, I get that.

00:50:50.588 --> 00:51:07.954
But there's also more golfers nowadays and it's harder to get a tee time, which doesn't help, with you having to fork over a hundred, $120, $140 or whatever for a time that you're not into.

00:51:07.954 --> 00:51:29.815
Or three or four years ago it would have been 80, you know, it hurts a little bit because obviously we all love the game and and at the end of the day, it is I Jag, it is just a game, but we we love it and we want to play and, like we said earlier in the podcast, like we're fiends, so we have to play or else we're going to lose our fucking mind.

00:51:29.815 --> 00:51:31.119
But there are things.

00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:37.855
I'm sorry, yeah, there are things wrong with golf, but I don't want to get into it.

00:51:37.855 --> 00:51:40.742
But I don't want anybody to think that.

00:51:41.925 --> 00:51:42.507
Oh, we don't love.

00:51:42.507 --> 00:51:43.639
Oh, no, I mean yeah.

00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:49.427
Yeah, all of all of this shit on the screen right here, yeah it drives me.

00:51:49.594 --> 00:51:50.418
Recommendations.

00:51:50.795 --> 00:51:52.161
It's not going to stop me from going out.

00:51:52.161 --> 00:51:53.217
Yeah at all.

00:51:53.217 --> 00:51:56.440
Yeah, Two years ago Paiute was 65 bucks.

00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.695
Yeah, OK.

00:51:59.755 --> 00:52:00.318
It's crazy.

00:52:01.474 --> 00:52:04.958
So equipment companies With all their releases?

00:52:04.958 --> 00:52:12.063
Is it justifiable For them to do it, or is it capitalism?

00:52:12.063 --> 00:52:17.539
So if they can do it, go for it, or at a point Do you have to go?

00:52:17.539 --> 00:52:23.728
Look, there's not that much of a difference between that driver that last year and this one.

00:52:24.534 --> 00:52:27.605
I think they just capitalize on people that actually know what they're doing.

00:52:27.605 --> 00:52:33.567
Because two or three years ago, yeah, I was like I need the new driver, I need the new driver.

00:52:33.567 --> 00:52:47.527
Now I, like I mentioned it before like I haven't changed anything in my bag for at least a year, like I do need new iron shafts, I know that, but still, like four years ago, I would have just fucking bought them.

00:52:47.527 --> 00:53:01.942
And I think they just they know that people are so enticed by new things and new technology and they, they can sell, they can sell you, you know, like I think when the cover.

00:53:02.394 --> 00:53:05.766
And it doesn't really, it's not even real, real difference.

00:53:06.195 --> 00:53:15.625
You know when when Paradigm Stealth 435 all came out pushing five hundred fifty six hundred dollars and they were selling them.

00:53:15.625 --> 00:53:16.697
Yeah, they went.

00:53:16.697 --> 00:53:19.304
Yeah, we can do this with everything.

00:53:19.304 --> 00:53:21.681
Let's make a five wood four hundred dollars.

00:53:21.681 --> 00:53:22.824
Let's make a hybrid.

00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:26.085
Yeah, and the drivers went up.

00:53:26.085 --> 00:53:27.398
Everything went up.

00:53:27.398 --> 00:53:30.447
Fifty bucks this last year I think it was five.

00:53:30.447 --> 00:53:30.775
Why?

00:53:30.795 --> 00:53:33.181
five, fifty, and I mean God.

00:53:33.181 --> 00:53:37.398
If you want to get a customized Taylor made Stealth, you're dropping a grant.

00:53:38.275 --> 00:53:45.284
I mean, when I bought my Sim five wood, I felt like a complete asshole, spending like four hundred dollars on one club, you know.

00:53:48.014 --> 00:53:48.717
That's just crazy.

00:53:50.394 --> 00:53:51.199
They know what they're doing.

00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:52.840
They're selling it, they're salesmen.

00:53:54.315 --> 00:53:57.806
All right, Dan, you're you're on the higher end skilled player.

00:53:57.806 --> 00:54:02.367
What's your thoughts on the shafts not having any regulation?

00:54:07.181 --> 00:54:07.362
Um and.

00:54:07.382 --> 00:54:08.485
I love to hear your thoughts on this too.

00:54:09.394 --> 00:54:15.014
Yeah, I would say, with trade being more of a fitter, you'd probably be more, you know, involved than I could be.

00:54:15.014 --> 00:54:18.297
But you know, I think it's.

00:54:18.297 --> 00:54:23.284
I think it's kind of bullshit, if you know what you're saying is.

00:54:23.284 --> 00:54:28.762
You know you're buying a stiff or whatever and it's pecking out to like, you know, regular specs.

00:54:28.762 --> 00:54:36.000
You know me personally, I feel like I can Tell that when I swing.

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:42.237
But for the average person who might not know any better, you know, yeah, they're kind of.

00:54:42.237 --> 00:54:43.903
You know it sucks to get the wool pulled over there.

00:54:45.695 --> 00:54:50.847
But as far as what you can do to change that, I'm not sure.

00:54:50.847 --> 00:54:57.300
I mean, maybe quality control has got to take a little bit more of a pride over just mass production.

00:54:57.300 --> 00:55:04.360
You know, just getting something out with our label on it, slap a $300 price tag on it, boom, let's start making money.

00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.764
But unfortunately that's kind of what golf is like now.

00:55:07.764 --> 00:55:11.815
You know it's just it's for a lot of these big name companies it's like a cash grab.

00:55:11.815 --> 00:55:16.487
You know, like nothing significant has really changed.

00:55:16.487 --> 00:55:19.485
I'm kind of, I'm going to kind of revert back to like just the drivers.

00:55:19.485 --> 00:55:26.969
If you look at the stealth, look at the stealth to look at the sim and you look at the sim to solve the same design.

00:55:26.969 --> 00:55:31.347
They just use different material, like the sim to and the stealth to.

00:55:31.347 --> 00:55:36.157
It's the same same thing, except for one's got a carbon face and the other one has a carbon crown.

00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:40.483
Yeah, they move the weight around a little bit here and justify hey, you need this.

00:55:41.295 --> 00:55:48.996
But for the most part, if you just look at the heads and the sole plates, they're the same driver, different paint job and.

00:55:48.996 --> 00:55:59.360
But because you move the crown of carbon from the crown to the face, you throw another hundred dollars plus on top of boom, put it out the next year.

00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.380
So same with title list too.

00:56:01.380 --> 00:56:05.958
If you look at the TSI and the TSR, like there's Hardly any difference.

00:56:05.958 --> 00:56:12.039
So I think it's just more of like just get something out and just get something new.

00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.224
Guys who want the new shiny toys will go and get it regardless.

00:56:17.815 --> 00:56:34.726
Yeah, and it's kind of like like a status symbol, you know yeah, I got the newest driver, I got the newest irons and it's it's really not about that and I think this could pertain to you know like getting fitted is expensive too.

00:56:35.675 --> 00:56:40.045
Absolutely Right To figure out what exact shaft you need.

00:56:40.045 --> 00:56:47.496
If you're not trying to drop four hundred dollars, two hundred dollars, whatever, on any type of shaft, you have to go get fitted so you can find out what works for you.

00:56:47.496 --> 00:57:07.905
And that comes down to it being too expensive Because to find out what you're doing like there's only a couple of places you can go to, where it's like you can just pop shit in, pop it in, pop it out, try everything with the shaft, with the club or the heads or the driver head, whatever it is, to find out what actually works for you.

00:57:07.905 --> 00:57:24.045
And even at that point it's not the same as you're going to get at the end, because the quick connects or whatever the hosel is going to act a a hermit different, you know yeah, and it could so hard to dial it in.

00:57:26.554 --> 00:57:28.943
I told Trey that I'd send him the link to jump in.

00:57:29.264 --> 00:57:30.896
I did too, yeah.

00:57:32.275 --> 00:57:33.103
But it's such.

00:57:33.103 --> 00:57:34.275
That's the thing.

00:57:34.275 --> 00:57:45.443
It's such a unique sport, such a unique game and it's so hard to find what works for you because there are steps you need to take.

00:57:45.443 --> 00:57:55.994
You need to know what you're looking at, you need to educate yourself, you need to understand the game, you need to understand your swing.

00:57:55.994 --> 00:58:03.543
There's so many aspects to it where it's it's kind of hard to even do it when you are getting like professionally fitted.

00:58:03.543 --> 00:58:04.277
Yeah.

00:58:07.304 --> 00:58:12.494
I think we've beaten up too many people For the last two years.

00:58:12.494 --> 00:58:15.405
So I think everybody knows that.

00:58:15.405 --> 00:58:27.740
But the customer service going by the wayside this is one thing that is kind of annoying to me is you know, you pay, you pay more, you're paying more now and it's.

00:58:27.740 --> 00:58:38.494
It's pretty much the same product and in our case it's an inferior product because so many of the courses have water restrictions and you know they're not as green and they're not as lush.

00:58:38.494 --> 00:58:46.083
There's a lot of dry, dormant areas now because they don't have the the budget for water that they used to.

00:58:46.083 --> 00:59:07.585
So it's kind of an inferior product compared to a couple of years ago, but we're paying more for it and it's like we're inconveniencing the golf course by being out there and I just I really would love to see a change of attitude on the customer service side.

00:59:07.585 --> 00:59:11.875
That would be like dude man, you're really getting raped over the coals.

00:59:11.875 --> 00:59:16.295
Let's, let's at least give you some love while you're here.

00:59:16.295 --> 00:59:18.349
What's up, trey?

00:59:18.349 --> 00:59:24.114
Here I am the newest major champion Trey Sanders.

00:59:24.521 --> 00:59:28.242
Yes, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations.

00:59:28.916 --> 00:59:31.061
Before you go too deep into that customer service.

00:59:31.061 --> 00:59:37.925
One thing I wanted to say was is, for newer golfers, unreal expectations of golf course conditions.

00:59:37.925 --> 00:59:55.208
Right, because when I, when I started playing, I thought that everything was supposed to look like Augusta, you know, and they, it's true, though right, and when you first start playing golf, you're expecting all courses to look a certain way.

00:59:55.208 --> 01:00:17.835
That's not the case, because there's seasons, there's different types of grasses and, talking to Darden, who was at Wild Horse, who is now at Angel Park, it's it's, it's an impossible job to keep those expectations up to your clientele, because everybody's expecting it to be a certain way, but that's not the case.

01:00:17.835 --> 01:00:19.514
It's a very difficult job.

01:00:19.514 --> 01:00:21.382
So last week was Greenskeeper.

01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:22.934
Joe got lost on the day.

01:00:23.036 --> 01:00:24.474
Appreciation day or whatever it was.

01:00:24.474 --> 01:00:25.840
Good grief, man.

01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.355
So shout out to the Greenskeepers because it's not.

01:00:28.355 --> 01:00:30.634
It's not what you expect every single time.

01:00:30.634 --> 01:00:36.547
And that's what makes golf awesome, because you're going to experience different shit all the time.

01:00:36.547 --> 01:00:52.063
You're going to experience different types of grasses, different types of lies and keep your expectations down and when you come across those courses that are sick and dope and in great condition, like, appreciate that because that's a moment you're not going to see all the fucking time.

01:00:52.063 --> 01:00:52.585
Yeah.

01:00:53.876 --> 01:01:06.355
And I think, regarding that, you know I've been at several private clubs and seen several kids at play and I think to myself, you know, I mean I'm talking like when I say private club.

01:01:06.355 --> 01:01:09.724
I'm talking a hundred grand to kind of join stuff.

01:01:09.724 --> 01:01:14.068
And you know I see kids at private clubs when I was fitting.

01:01:14.068 --> 01:01:20.443
You know those kids are never going to know what it's like to play a fucking Boulder City, muni or a Boulder Creek.

01:01:20.443 --> 01:01:22.648
Yeah, and I love Boulder.

01:01:23.034 --> 01:01:25.925
I mean it's wintertime, when it's dormant and fucking running all over.

01:01:26.376 --> 01:01:27.800
I mean I still love that.

01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.264
I mean I love it, it's fun.

01:01:29.264 --> 01:01:31.914
It's fun.

01:01:31.914 --> 01:01:35.284
It's just, you know, that's what makes the game different, you know.

01:01:35.284 --> 01:01:39.619
But I agree, like I think, the expectations from club to club.

01:01:39.619 --> 01:01:47.322
You know it's hard because like, let's say, you go, you know.

01:01:47.322 --> 01:01:57.661
Let's say you got somebody you know coming to Las Vegas and they see they book a tea time in Las Vegas National and they look at it online and then they show up and it's a completely different thing.

01:01:57.661 --> 01:02:07.041
Like there's that level of trying to convince the player to come to that golf course, no matter the condition that it's in.

01:02:07.081 --> 01:02:22.298
Yeah, it's a sales technique really, at the end of the day, you know, and I have been on, and I'm sure most of you guys have have been on the end of, you know, someone says it's a great layout, and then every time I hear great layout, I think shitty condition.

01:02:22.298 --> 01:02:23.521
Yeah, true, yeah.

01:02:23.521 --> 01:02:31.246
And we've all been on that end where it's like, oh man, like I'm excited for this, boom, boom.

01:02:31.246 --> 01:02:35.644
I show up and it's a go track, go track.

01:02:35.644 --> 01:02:44.686
You know it's fucking awful and I, but you're right, there's got to be some level of realism to that.

01:02:44.706 --> 01:02:53.735
But I think, at the same time, no matter if it's, if it's unfixable, that's one thing, but I'm going to say it until I see more of it happen.

01:02:53.735 --> 01:02:55.179
But people got to fix ball marks.

01:02:55.179 --> 01:03:02.240
Yeah, totally, you know, and it's, it's not hard, you know, have I missed one before?

01:03:02.240 --> 01:03:08.155
Sure, but at the same time, I might do it four or five times on another green, yeah, you know.

01:03:08.155 --> 01:03:19.224
So I think there's a level, there's a level of decorum around golf that people, from 2020 on forward, that don't know.

01:03:20.275 --> 01:03:22.420
I have a funny story about fixing ball marks.

01:03:22.420 --> 01:03:32.978
Saturday had a conversation with someone and you know, I I don't like approaching people and telling them hey, you're doing this wrong, let me show you the right way.

01:03:32.978 --> 01:03:41.240
But it got to a point where it was like, dude, you're, you're ruining the grass, and so I was going up.

01:03:41.240 --> 01:03:41.862
Yeah.

01:03:42.525 --> 01:03:45.454
Yeah, and on the Tuesday.

01:03:47.003 --> 01:03:50.016
And I said that's not the way you do it and he's like you know.

01:03:50.016 --> 01:03:51.780
Somebody else told me that too, but I don't believe it.

01:03:54.396 --> 01:03:55.038
And I said you know.

01:03:55.298 --> 01:03:58.681
I said, no, it's actually true, you're ripping the grass out of the roots.

01:03:58.681 --> 01:03:59.798
And he's like, yeah, but I don't.

01:03:59.798 --> 01:04:01.056
I don't believe it, so I don't do it.

01:04:02.494 --> 01:04:02.795
Was he?

01:04:02.795 --> 01:04:04.322
Did he go to a Gronomy school?

01:04:04.322 --> 01:04:05.398
Was he an agronomist?

01:04:07.918 --> 01:04:11.925
I just that's the kind of stuff, yeah.

01:04:12.246 --> 01:04:21.394
Yeah, I mean that's that level of decorum that goes from how we learned the game to not like I've learned the game when I was young.

01:04:22.097 --> 01:04:48.199
I mean I know Joe said he started in 2018, but well, I did play when I was a kid, but my dad taught me when I was like eight, you know, but I still, I still withheld those ethics that he taught me because he said don't do this shit, Do it this way, you know so yeah, and I think you know when I was growing up there were other kids playing and stuff like that, but I also had, you know, I was fortunate enough to get lessons from a PGA pro that kind of taught me the game.

01:04:49.597 --> 01:04:51.402
Now I can't remember anything.

01:04:51.402 --> 01:04:52.606
I was taught from back then.

01:04:52.606 --> 01:05:00.119
I've always learned and evolved in this game, even now to just learning rules that the USGA posts on Instagram.

01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:01.083
I think that's fantastic.

01:05:01.083 --> 01:05:12.766
I think they should do that for every rule and just have it available, like that, because it can come in handy, like our tournaments or even an SNG, any of any kind of tournament.

01:05:12.766 --> 01:05:15.059
Yeah, you could just pull up Instagram boom.

01:05:15.059 --> 01:05:17.746
Rule 26 dash a 5000.

01:05:17.875 --> 01:05:19.179
Hey, I saw this on a video.

01:05:19.179 --> 01:05:23.221
Let's go look at it, not let's bring up the rule book and try to decipher what you know.

01:05:23.221 --> 01:05:26.487
13 dash nine a is great, yeah.

01:05:26.815 --> 01:05:36.405
So I think I think, when it comes to something like that, the availability of what the actual rules are is well, for lack of other words, unavailable.

01:05:36.405 --> 01:05:44.478
You know, like I could type in Google, you know which side do I drop on this side or that side kind of question.

01:05:44.478 --> 01:05:46.405
But it's got to be easier than that.

01:05:46.405 --> 01:05:52.717
I mean, usga has to have, like on their app or something, just a video library of every rule possible.

01:05:52.717 --> 01:05:59.621
You know that you can have an explanation, for that can just be readily available for everybody in the tournament situation, or not.

01:05:59.802 --> 01:06:06.425
Yeah, yeah, maybe hopefully that's what they're doing by banking all those videos and yeah, yeah, I mean they're doing a good job currently.

01:06:06.425 --> 01:06:07.594
So right.

01:06:07.896 --> 01:06:10.701
Hey, so I think, it just you, Dre.

01:06:10.721 --> 01:06:19.644
you heard what we ran through this list that we kind of put together what's something that you have that wasn't on there, besides fixture down Ballmarks?

01:06:20.795 --> 01:06:22.161
Oh, I didn't see the whole list.

01:06:22.161 --> 01:06:23.500
I couldn't read the whole thing.

01:06:23.500 --> 01:06:25.621
I jumped in like half way through.

01:06:25.762 --> 01:06:26.755
Okay, so we got.

01:06:26.755 --> 01:06:31.079
Let's see too many new people, customer service going by the wayside, the rules are confusing.

01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:44.967
There's too many golf ball options, the different wedge grinds and materials used in wedges, $1,500 putters, pro shops with crappy offerings, dickheaded marshals.

01:06:45.106 --> 01:06:54.746
Don't give me, don't give me started on that, with no marshals and self-awareness from players as far as course etiquette and pace of play.

01:06:55.887 --> 01:07:00.483
Okay, so I'll start from the bottom up, or from the last to the first.

01:07:00.483 --> 01:07:08.347
I must say, coyote springs, having one person go around every nine like a martial type person, it's fantastic.

01:07:08.347 --> 01:07:10.420
Keep, keep it moving, stuff like that.

01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:30.041
You know I'm for it because not only do we want to play shorter rounds of golf, but if you can have imagine this, like if you imagine if you had four groups that all finished in five and a half hours, if you had five groups that finished in four hours, you know they could get another tea time almost in there and make more money.

01:07:30.041 --> 01:07:32.297
Yeah, um, you know.

01:07:32.297 --> 01:07:36.860
So having someone go around like that, coyote springs does it right, especially with two car girls on each side.

01:07:36.860 --> 01:07:41.565
Oh, and, by the way, on this list, no car girls.

01:07:41.565 --> 01:07:44.483
Oh, like, no, no.

01:07:45.295 --> 01:07:46.721
Oh, not having, not having a service.

01:07:47.643 --> 01:07:52.565
Yeah, not having the service, because I love mountain falls and they don't do that.

01:07:52.565 --> 01:07:55.606
Yeah, like I don't want to have to wait till nine holes to get something.

01:07:55.606 --> 01:08:00.679
Like you know, have someone come around, but it's a senior community, it's different out there.

01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:02.523
Anyway, whatever, still gotta have one.

01:08:02.523 --> 01:08:06.264
Um, what was at the bottom of that list?

01:08:06.324 --> 01:08:08.179
again Pro shops with crappy offerings.

01:08:09.260 --> 01:08:11.775
Yeah, pro shop, oh yeah, like.

01:08:11.775 --> 01:08:26.923
Uh, I mean I'll say this when I went to Bay Hill and maybe Dan can say about I haven't been to Keywood so maybe Dan can fill in about Keywood after this but when I went to Bay Hill, like I feel like in Bay Hill it's kind of catered to you know what?

01:08:26.923 --> 01:08:29.028
I just paid $250 for around the golf.

01:08:29.028 --> 01:08:33.545
Why don't I spend $250 more dollars because I'm already here and get some cool Bay Hill shit.

01:08:33.545 --> 01:08:52.905
I've been to places where I don't get that vibe, like I bet it's pretty much the kind of vibe where you walk in, you pay for your golf and you walk right out, yeah, like, even if it's like that, like I will say, probably two of the best ones that I've been to is Tori Pines and TPC Sawgrass.

01:08:52.905 --> 01:08:57.105
The stadium course at TPC Wait till abandoned.

01:08:57.105 --> 01:08:59.320
Like I said, I haven't been there yet.

01:08:59.320 --> 01:09:02.038
When I get there I will.

01:09:02.038 --> 01:09:03.484
I will most likely add it.

01:09:03.755 --> 01:09:05.842
Well, yeah, I mean going going on that right.

01:09:05.842 --> 01:09:12.543
So it's like I think golf is becoming a younger sport and I think the pro shops are not catering to the younger audience either.

01:09:13.237 --> 01:09:13.779
Oh, not at all.

01:09:14.694 --> 01:09:19.756
And we went over the New Era thing a little bit but come on there.

01:09:19.775 --> 01:09:20.818
I mean, look at there's.

01:09:20.818 --> 01:09:23.904
There's two guys on here that knew where new straight built.

01:09:23.904 --> 01:09:24.706
Come on.

01:09:24.706 --> 01:09:27.859
But yeah, I mean Dan, how was?

01:09:27.859 --> 01:09:29.063
How was the pro shop at Keela?

01:09:31.074 --> 01:09:34.524
It was nothing but Peter Millar and footjoy yeah.

01:09:35.817 --> 01:09:36.399
But there were some.

01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:37.240
Johnny O stuff.

01:09:37.240 --> 01:09:38.583
But yeah, for the most part it was.

01:09:38.583 --> 01:09:43.729
It was just those, just the fancy stuff, yeah, Okay.

01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:46.845
Too many golf balls Too many golf balls.

01:09:46.845 --> 01:09:47.757
What do you think about that?

01:09:49.614 --> 01:09:52.222
Well, if Glenn was on here, we'd be on here for three more hours.

01:09:52.222 --> 01:09:55.198
We love you, glenn.

01:09:55.198 --> 01:09:59.983
But holy shit, I will say too many golf balls.

01:09:59.983 --> 01:10:05.519
Yeah, I would just say there's too many options if that's what you're talking about.

01:10:05.519 --> 01:10:08.594
Yes, yes, so too many options.

01:10:08.594 --> 01:10:11.332
That's what I have, honestly.

01:10:11.332 --> 01:10:17.533
That's why I have a closet full of Provy 1X is because I can pretty much I know what I get out of it.

01:10:17.533 --> 01:10:20.337
You know not that because it's like the titleist name or whatever.

01:10:20.337 --> 01:10:27.856
I've had people tell me like oh, you play Tyler's because you know I play a Provy 1X 2021 because I know what to expect when I fucking hit that ball.

01:10:27.856 --> 01:10:32.015
Yeah, you know, that's the long and short of it.

01:10:32.015 --> 01:10:33.896
Like you know, you told me I don't.

01:10:33.896 --> 01:10:38.996
Well, if TaylorMade was better which I know, you spoke about that before in person.

01:10:39.911 --> 01:10:41.993
The new one, the new one Talking about the new one.

01:10:41.993 --> 01:11:01.198
Yeah, yeah, like if that's as good as you say it is and the cover holds, like I'll pay a TB5X if that cover holds for sure, yeah, but going back to the customer service, but are you saying like golf stores in general?

01:11:01.457 --> 01:11:12.938
No, just when you're at a golf course, the employees that you're interacting with have, kind of, you know, taken a pass on providing customer service.

01:11:12.938 --> 01:11:15.752
And I was saying that.

01:11:15.752 --> 01:11:28.212
You know, here in Vegas we're having an inferior product compared to two three years ago because water restrictions, and we're paying more, so it's not the same value.

01:11:28.212 --> 01:11:28.533
It was.

01:11:28.533 --> 01:11:42.521
You know what a $65 round three years ago is now a $100 round and the courses aren't in as good a condition and it seems like the customer service is going the way of the golf course, not the price.

01:11:42.521 --> 01:11:45.136
You know we're paying more for an inferior product.

01:11:45.136 --> 01:11:53.953
Hey, show me some love, you know, get, make me feel a little bit better about dropping the cash that I am to come play your golf course.

01:11:55.637 --> 01:11:56.118
You know what?

01:11:56.118 --> 01:11:56.909
It's funny.

01:11:56.909 --> 01:12:04.676
You say that I'd be willing to ask them that next time I pay over $100 for around, yeah, be like, look like I moved here to.

01:12:04.676 --> 01:12:10.113
I would tell them I'd be like, even with Paiute, like Paiute is in great shape always, so I'd never complain about it.

01:12:10.113 --> 01:12:14.470
Which is, you know, have them do what they do with that course.

01:12:14.470 --> 01:12:16.212
To be as good as it is, it's fantastic.

01:12:16.212 --> 01:12:20.538
But when I moved here, that round was $60, $65.

01:12:20.538 --> 01:12:22.323
Now it's 95.

01:12:22.323 --> 01:12:25.756
Yeah, yeah, and I want to get that bolder.

01:12:25.756 --> 01:12:29.457
I mean the Paiute card for next year, but I mean it's.

01:12:29.457 --> 01:12:32.682
You know, golf is getting more expensive.

01:12:32.682 --> 01:12:45.238
I don't know if we have inflation and things for that, but at the same time, you know, when they saw the increase of golfers over the last three and a half years, you know they're like oh well, we can increase the price too.

01:12:45.659 --> 01:12:46.721
Supply and demand yeah.

01:12:48.090 --> 01:12:52.791
I think golf inflation might have hit before inflation, Do you think?

01:12:52.791 --> 01:12:53.112
Do you?

01:12:53.131 --> 01:13:02.619
think, possibly, that when the pandemic hit and everybody started playing golf but pandemic rules were still there, everybody riding in separate carts.

01:13:02.619 --> 01:13:08.814
Maybe some of the staff members or the or the or the outside crew wouldn't be handling your golf bags as much.

01:13:08.814 --> 01:13:18.220
Maybe that has kind of led into the lack of customer service, like yeah, we can interact more and we don't have masks on and stuff like that.

01:13:18.220 --> 01:13:23.662
Yeah, over the over the last three years of people kind of more handling their own equipment.

01:13:23.871 --> 01:13:26.238
I've just stood here for the last two years doing nothing.

01:13:26.238 --> 01:13:30.474
That's what I'm going to continue to do yeah, and not to mention.

01:13:30.796 --> 01:13:39.011
You know, unless you're getting tips like, you're still not making a whole lot of money in the golf, in the golf industry unless you're at a private course, you know private courses.

01:13:39.011 --> 01:13:40.738
You have the opportunity to make a little bit more money.

01:13:40.738 --> 01:13:48.242
But right, you know, mix with that and just people overall being maybe more nastier.

01:13:48.842 --> 01:13:49.104
Dicks.

01:13:49.770 --> 01:13:50.533
Yeah, you know.

01:13:50.533 --> 01:13:54.807
Just customer service is going by the wayside because it's they.

01:13:54.807 --> 01:13:57.157
They feel like fuck it, I'm not getting paid enough.

01:13:57.157 --> 01:13:59.457
This guy's a jerk, fuck this place.

01:13:59.949 --> 01:14:07.417
I'm still waiting for you know someone from outside services to plug in their square into their phone and be like swipe it.

01:14:08.992 --> 01:14:11.011
I would have one Dude put.

01:14:11.011 --> 01:14:15.783
All you got to do is just even the square reader or put in a fucking QR code.

01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:17.131
Nobody carries cash anymore.

01:14:17.131 --> 01:14:20.739
So for the most part I mean, I mean I'm.

01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:23.853
I'm always for cash, so you know.

01:14:23.853 --> 01:14:29.555
I realize I don't always carry it, but that's what you know the cash apps and all the other stuff is for.

01:14:29.555 --> 01:14:30.978
But uh and shout out.

01:14:31.018 --> 01:14:31.760
Dan, I've seen him.

01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:32.681
What's your Venmo?

01:14:32.681 --> 01:14:34.134
I'll Venmo you right now.

01:14:34.134 --> 01:14:35.873
I've seen him do it.

01:14:35.873 --> 01:14:43.502
Oh yeah, I don't like, I don't like you know, I'd have a square reader for sure.

01:14:43.630 --> 01:14:48.761
I just I just dealt with that for a three iron I sold and it was I hate.

01:14:48.761 --> 01:14:51.073
You know, like Dan said, I don't like going people.

01:14:51.073 --> 01:14:59.872
You know it's a mortgage is one thing, oh, and that guy is one thing, but you know, if I owe somebody something, I'm not trying to owe the homies.

01:14:59.872 --> 01:15:04.037
Exactly, you know, just pay off your debt and we're good to go.

01:15:04.037 --> 01:15:06.215
Um, so what about?

01:15:06.395 --> 01:15:07.337
self-awareness tray.

01:15:07.337 --> 01:15:09.774
What about guys that are?

01:15:09.774 --> 01:15:12.920
Just have no clue that they're the problem?

01:15:14.829 --> 01:15:33.921
I think, because I've had a real close interaction in this area of golf, I feel that there's a lot of ego in this game because it's solo.

01:15:33.921 --> 01:15:36.453
You know we are a solo.

01:15:36.453 --> 01:15:41.332
You know, like tennis players, we play this game by ourselves in a group of four people.

01:15:41.332 --> 01:15:44.962
Whether there's competition or whatever is hearsay.

01:15:45.289 --> 01:16:01.811
But when it comes to self-awareness, you know, I think, the people that are aware that somebody may or may not be the problem, it still has to be told in a way, like you know, I take the high road.

01:16:01.811 --> 01:16:06.021
You know you have to let them know and keep repeating it to them.

01:16:06.021 --> 01:16:08.979
And then at some point you just had to be a little stern with your message.

01:16:08.979 --> 01:16:18.681
If it's been repeated several times, you know, yeah, I mean, this is this at the end of the day, this is golf, like we don't need to have confrontation or anything.

01:16:18.681 --> 01:16:25.743
But you know, if three people at a four say it's this, then you know, pay attention.

01:16:25.743 --> 01:16:36.301
Like that's all that has to go down with that, because you know, if I know I'm doing something, you know that's this or that and it's not right.

01:16:37.150 --> 01:16:42.454
And so you know three or out of four people tell me in the group that you know this is the right way to do it.

01:16:42.454 --> 01:16:45.912
Then you know, maybe majority rules and they know what they're talking about.

01:16:45.912 --> 01:17:00.412
You know, and I have conversation a lot about this with several areas of golf, with lots of people you know, and I think somebody like Dan, you know even Joe who's you know, five years in Matt.

01:17:00.412 --> 01:17:02.337
You, I don't know how many years in golf you're in.

01:17:02.337 --> 01:17:05.199
There's too many, you know.

01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:06.970
For myself it's about 25 years.

01:17:07.090 --> 01:17:07.671
Don't be this bad.

01:17:10.212 --> 01:17:11.114
It's, you know.

01:17:11.114 --> 01:17:44.082
I will just say that when it comes to something like this at least between the four of us here and a couple others that we you know, many others that we know there's some legitimacy to us saying something about what you're doing, you know, whether it's pace of play reasons or fixing ballmarks, sand, whatever you know, there's people got to understand that length in time and golf and knowing the surroundings is carries validity and I think there's just too much ego for people to accept help from other people.

01:17:44.371 --> 01:17:57.755
Yeah, I think it comes down to like a communication factor, which I know a lot of the world is locking in, and it's just asking your art partner or your players you're playing with, like hey, can I drop here?

01:17:57.755 --> 01:17:58.693
Is this not a bad?

01:17:58.693 --> 01:17:59.856
Is this a bad drop?

01:17:59.856 --> 01:18:02.038
Like, where do you feel that?

01:18:02.038 --> 01:18:06.578
You know, and it's, it's at the end of the day, like I've said, it's just a game, so right.

01:18:07.551 --> 01:18:09.917
It is, but I'm dropping here Is this cool with you?

01:18:10.038 --> 01:18:10.720
Is this cool with you?

01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:12.375
Does this, does this work for you?

01:18:12.375 --> 01:18:17.298
And most people aren't going to go out on a limb and ask that or some people won't.

01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:18.882
Most people won't.

01:18:18.882 --> 01:18:21.398
They'll just kind of drop wherever they feel like it and all that.

01:18:21.398 --> 01:18:28.137
But I think you know I've always just been a big believer in you know, especially with the desert here, for pace of play reasons.

01:18:28.137 --> 01:18:33.838
Just take your stroke and distance cares, like I mean, I don't care, I'm for it.

01:18:33.838 --> 01:18:36.396
Like if I'm, if I'm telling you to do it, then do it.

01:18:36.396 --> 01:18:41.400
Yeah, you know, whether it's five bucks or nothing on the line, just let's keep this thing moving.

01:18:41.631 --> 01:18:49.363
It's a bit rolling, you know, and it's with.

01:18:49.363 --> 01:19:05.155
The rules is one thing, but you know, I've had this conversation with some other people and I feel that since new golfers have come along, that there's not as much integrity in the game as there used to be.

01:19:06.158 --> 01:19:07.362
Yeah, I would agree with that.

01:19:07.670 --> 01:19:12.622
You know integrity, calling penalties on oneself and different things like that.

01:19:12.622 --> 01:19:18.422
You know, I don't there's not much protecting the field anymore, Correct.

01:19:19.652 --> 01:19:21.255
You know, and I've been on the side.

01:19:21.615 --> 01:19:24.881
I've been on the side of a tournament where I call the penalty on myself.

01:19:24.881 --> 01:19:25.363
It sucks.

01:19:25.363 --> 01:19:28.051
You don't want to do that, you know.

01:19:28.051 --> 01:19:37.596
But that's part of the game of golf is having the integrity to be a bigger man, and you know, come forward with that.

01:19:37.596 --> 01:19:50.359
So you know and I realize not everybody's perfect, and all of that but at the same time you know you can learn a lot about this game and how you are in this game.

01:19:50.359 --> 01:20:08.634
You know compared to where you're at and you know the rest of your life, because you know four hours or so, and I'm not talking about, like you guys, specifically but, if you're playing with new golfers and you see this like there has to be somebody telling them this or that, or they'll keep doing, keep doing it for that.

01:20:08.914 --> 01:20:10.238
Yeah, and that's the thing.

01:20:10.238 --> 01:20:10.998
Players license.

01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:18.033
Yeah, it's, I mean a lot of it kind of like weighs on our shoulders, like we are.

01:20:18.033 --> 01:20:25.592
Yes, Players that have been playing for a while need to tell the newer ones like, hey, that's not correct.

01:20:25.592 --> 01:20:40.192
And for someone to stand up and say that it's, it's difficult for the newer generation that is not down with confrontation to be like yo, that's incorrect and I'll take it.

01:20:40.192 --> 01:20:43.261
You know it's, it's.

01:20:43.261 --> 01:20:43.641
It's.

01:20:43.641 --> 01:21:02.564
It's tough for people to do that, but it needs to be done because you're going to carry the game of golf on in the respect that it's been played for years, because it is a game of history and it sucks when you have to start those conversations with hey, totally, I'm not being a dick, but yeah, yeah.

01:21:04.091 --> 01:21:10.220
But we need, but it's it's like somewhat our obligation to teach the newer ones how to do it.

01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:10.860
I agree.

01:21:12.002 --> 01:21:12.222
Yeah.

01:21:12.483 --> 01:21:16.877
I agree, I completely agree, because if nobody does, they'll never learn.

01:21:17.810 --> 01:21:21.235
And if you're a new golfer and you don't know, then you need to fucking ask somebody.

01:21:22.318 --> 01:21:23.460
Yeah, not Google.

01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:24.001
Yeah.

01:21:24.041 --> 01:21:26.332
Assume, assume.

01:21:26.332 --> 01:21:30.420
The one thing I will say, too, is going back to a previous.

01:21:30.420 --> 01:21:33.930
Well, I'll go back to that about.

01:21:33.930 --> 01:21:37.158
I heard something about fitting earlier, but right before I hopped on.

01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:37.460
Oh yeah.

01:21:39.641 --> 01:21:44.417
That was about the chance, but that just goes back to the decorum I talked about.

01:21:44.417 --> 01:21:58.373
You know, there's gotta somebody has to teach people just basic rules of golf, even if it's just an adopted form, like not legit ones.

01:21:58.373 --> 01:22:10.604
That we go by Cliffsnuts, yeah, like a cliff notes, yeah, about just white stakes, red stakes, you know, and different things like that.

01:22:10.604 --> 01:22:27.484
I got sneeze here in a second and then I truly feel and I don't know how or if it's going to happen I truly feel that T system, like the golf T's on each course, has to be organized better.

01:22:27.484 --> 01:22:51.560
And I know it may not even affect how and where golfers play on a golf course, you know, related to what T's they play, but there has to be some scoring level or something that says like, if it's this T, you know 80 plus, you know if you average 80, average 90, 100, whatever, something like that, yeah, you know there's got to be.

01:22:51.579 --> 01:22:52.381
And, of course, how did that do?

01:22:52.442 --> 01:23:05.432
it, yeah, and I think it's fantastic because I have played with a guy two guys actually, at Coyote Springs it was me and Glenn and we play.

01:23:05.432 --> 01:23:11.756
One of the guys never picked up a golf club and he decided to tee it up with me and Glenn on the tips.

01:23:11.756 --> 01:23:21.655
Yeah, and his friend, who he said he'd been playing like five months, did the same thing and I'm like you don't know what you're in for, I hate.

01:23:21.676 --> 01:23:32.510
Yeah, and like I hate telling guys that, yeah, but at the same time, like I'm only telling them because I'm trying to make the game easy for you, because this game's already hard.

01:23:32.510 --> 01:23:38.617
It's hard for me, you know, some days are just better than others and some days you don't break putters and make a purchase.

01:23:38.617 --> 01:23:41.487
Yeah, but hey did you.

01:23:43.452 --> 01:23:44.654
Hey, did you see the wedge?

01:23:44.774 --> 01:23:46.478
and just everything goes in or not.

01:23:46.518 --> 01:23:47.038
Our giveaway.

01:23:47.038 --> 01:23:47.940
Did you see our raffle?

01:23:47.940 --> 01:23:48.903
What we're doing for the raffle.

01:23:50.091 --> 01:23:52.457
I did not see chasing daylight podcast raffle.

01:23:53.550 --> 01:23:57.457
The Southern Highlands social for the S and G.

01:23:57.457 --> 01:24:03.516
A Dan can't play with us, so it's Joe, jeremy and myself.

01:24:03.516 --> 01:24:06.617
So for the fourth spot, we're having a raffle 20 bucks.

01:24:06.617 --> 01:24:09.856
20 bucks, stole your name, pay my Venmo.

01:24:09.856 --> 01:24:11.810
I put it up on the screen.

01:24:11.810 --> 01:24:13.456
Pay 20 bucks and you're in the raffle.

01:24:14.733 --> 01:24:16.358
OK, are they going to play with the three of us then?

01:24:17.791 --> 01:24:22.220
Yeah, you play with Joe, Jeremy and myself, and then whoever wins a raffle.

01:24:22.280 --> 01:24:22.440
Okay.

01:24:23.409 --> 01:24:25.398
Yeah, whoever wins the raffle, Sorry.

01:24:25.650 --> 01:24:27.438
You guys just kicking me out of the squad.

01:24:28.051 --> 01:24:30.457
No, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:24:30.457 --> 01:24:32.715
It's not like that, I'm just kidding.

01:24:34.033 --> 01:24:35.238
Hell, I'll play with three brand new people.

01:24:35.238 --> 01:24:35.862
I don't care.

01:24:35.862 --> 01:24:38.733
Yeah, yeah, you know it's.

01:24:38.733 --> 01:24:42.402
You know.

01:24:42.402 --> 01:24:46.333
I want to go into the shaft too, because, well, I'm the shaft core.

01:24:47.369 --> 01:24:52.724
So, so with with no regulations and shafts, meaning there's no.

01:24:52.724 --> 01:25:02.881
This is I mean you can frequency them and and find out on your own, but nobody's doing that when they're going to to Dix to pick up a set of irons.

01:25:03.551 --> 01:25:06.130
Well, the issue is like your speed it's.

01:25:06.130 --> 01:25:12.533
It's based on swing speed, which is not relative I this is.

01:25:13.756 --> 01:25:16.242
this is a subject we can go on about.

01:25:18.015 --> 01:25:18.818
Well, I got to go to bed.

01:25:18.909 --> 01:25:31.722
I don't go on too long, yeah, I know so none of that existed, if none of that stuff ever existed, but we still have the same, like if we still have the same technology right now but the fitting stuff didn't really exist.

01:25:31.722 --> 01:25:39.319
Like I remember going to the golf store in Florida when I first started playing golf and hitting stuff into a net with no projection, none of that.

01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:41.435
You just simply bought clubs based on feel.

01:25:41.435 --> 01:25:47.059
Yeah, you know, I remember the days you could demo a club for a week and bring it back.

01:25:47.059 --> 01:25:54.966
Like I know that would not go over well now, but 90 days at Las Vegas golf superstar.

01:25:55.090 --> 01:25:57.877
Yeah, yeah, Las Vegas golf superstar gives you 90 days.

01:25:59.030 --> 01:26:02.011
Well, that's that people Take.

01:26:02.011 --> 01:26:07.662
I worked that, I worked that job and people took advantage of that way too many times, of course.

01:26:08.289 --> 01:26:15.520
Well, that goes back to the game of golf and the respect and the decor, but I think I think, when it comes to fitting this is my two cents.

01:26:16.030 --> 01:26:21.432
I think, when it comes to fitting, that there's right golf clubs for every golf and they're not all the same.

01:26:21.432 --> 01:26:29.293
You know, when it comes to shafts, irons, a lot of that deals with how it looks, followed by how it feels.

01:26:29.293 --> 01:26:43.734
You know, but at the same time you could, you could be very well fitting a guy that doesn't know what the fuck feel is, which is a hard subject to tell somebody, because that's not something you can teach.

01:26:43.734 --> 01:26:48.019
You know that's feels not something that is taught, especially in golf.

01:26:48.019 --> 01:26:54.061
You know it comes from massive and massive amount of hours worked on on a craft.

01:26:54.061 --> 01:26:56.514
You know whether you're getting better or not.

01:26:56.635 --> 01:26:59.421
Matt three under the bus.

01:26:59.421 --> 01:27:00.412
Oh no, that's fine.

01:27:02.170 --> 01:27:26.597
You know, when it comes to fitting like for people that I don't know and I haven't looked golfed with, for people that are fitting, I feel that there needs to be like you should get yourself a nice set of golf clubs, not freaking Callaway, sorry, not Cal, not so many by a rabble to get OK, not Callaway, edge from Costco.

01:27:26.597 --> 01:28:04.161
You know you can get some really nice preowned shit, yeah, and you work with that for a while until you can get yourself a golf swing that is somewhat unrepeat yeah, because it's hard to fit a guy that is swinging all over the map and he may fit, get fit to this and hit it good for a while, but if he's not able to, I'm not talking about any of us, but if he's not able to repeat a golf swing of some kind, getting fit for golf clubs is just a waste of money.

01:28:04.729 --> 01:28:12.956
I remember going to club champion and Rodin, he was like yeah, I'm not, I'm not recommending anything for you, because yeah you got to fix that?

01:28:13.430 --> 01:28:31.717
Yeah, you got to fix that swing and I think nowadays and I seen it done at club champion and I think nowadays fitters need to stop selling golf clubs just to sell golf clubs If that guy is a swing guy yeah, I'll swing is that bad.

01:28:31.717 --> 01:28:33.931
Yeah, all over the map.

01:28:33.931 --> 01:28:34.715
Like tell them.

01:28:34.715 --> 01:28:36.733
Yeah, like do not.

01:28:36.733 --> 01:28:38.060
Who cares about the paycheck?

01:28:38.060 --> 01:28:42.797
Because if you tell them to do it the right way and fix it, they'll come back and buy golf clubs from you.

01:28:42.797 --> 01:28:44.792
Yeah, because I've done it.

01:28:45.654 --> 01:28:46.457
That was awesome.

01:28:46.457 --> 01:28:55.980
What Roars was saying last week about being at at Shelby with you know, I don't want to fit you today because you're taking lessons and let's, let's wait.

01:28:55.980 --> 01:29:01.449
I want David to come tell me, ok, she's ready, or he's ready to be fit now, right you?

01:29:01.449 --> 01:29:05.261
Know, instead of hey, let's fit you and then go take some lessons.

01:29:05.261 --> 01:29:07.775
So, yeah, yeah, do it.

01:29:07.796 --> 01:29:08.237
The right way.

01:29:08.237 --> 01:29:11.350
Yeah, and that's that's.

01:29:11.350 --> 01:29:12.070
The thing is like.

01:29:12.070 --> 01:29:16.471
I realize and people call me crazy when I say this it's crazy.

01:29:16.471 --> 01:29:28.824
Every day, people that play golf and want to get better at golf, they don't realize that 20 to 30 minutes of drills in your house without hitting a golf ball goes a long way.

01:29:28.824 --> 01:29:34.743
You know, and I think it just people just got to realize that this.

01:29:34.743 --> 01:29:39.842
I think they realize that, don't realize that golf is harder than it really is.

01:29:39.842 --> 01:29:48.021
You know, because there's a lot of athletes that start playing and it's fantastic, but then there's a shit ton of variables too.

01:29:48.875 --> 01:29:52.613
Yeah, there's a lot of variables that it comes down to, but that's my, that's.

01:29:52.613 --> 01:30:00.845
My prognosis on the fitting aspect of things is like yes, there's a lot of options, that's never going to change I didn't even get into.

01:30:01.387 --> 01:30:02.854
there's too many YouTube coaches.

01:30:02.854 --> 01:30:04.835
There's too many YouTube golfers.

01:30:05.380 --> 01:30:05.885
There's too many.

01:30:05.966 --> 01:30:06.854
Instagram golfers.

01:30:07.457 --> 01:30:11.503
There's too many podcasts Don't another episode.

01:30:11.503 --> 01:30:13.845
I can't talk about that right now.

01:30:13.845 --> 01:30:15.721
I'm trying to get a bed here.

01:30:16.155 --> 01:30:16.918
So yeah, too funny.

01:30:18.256 --> 01:30:19.118
Yeah, you know it's.

01:30:19.118 --> 01:30:31.364
I put you know, I reposted on my face, on my Instagram, because I, you know, it was that exhibition range thing that Tiger did with Ricky and somebody else.

01:30:31.364 --> 01:30:31.966
Yeah.

01:30:31.966 --> 01:30:34.909
I can't remember Will's on the Taurus, maybe there was well.

01:30:35.875 --> 01:30:39.381
So that's like people realize.

01:30:39.381 --> 01:30:47.456
Like, when it comes to YouTube, it's a resource to learn from.

01:30:47.456 --> 01:30:56.088
You know, I feel that if you want to use YouTube as a way to get better, do it.

01:30:56.088 --> 01:31:06.903
However, stay with the same golf, same golf coach, watch all their videos and do exactly what they did, learn their method, like.

01:31:06.903 --> 01:31:20.393
If that's what you're going to do and you don't want to spend money on a golf coach, which I understand, but you really want to get better, well, get yourself a mirror full length and do exactly what they're telling you to do on a on YouTube and go for it.

01:31:20.393 --> 01:31:32.507
But, at the same time, if you ain't hitting balls, getting better at teaching, yet learning what they're trying to teach you, you ain't going to get better, because the only way to get better in this game is to hit golf ball.

01:31:32.507 --> 01:31:32.769
Yep.

01:31:33.634 --> 01:31:33.875
Yep.

01:31:34.074 --> 01:31:34.355
I will.

01:31:34.536 --> 01:31:53.945
I will say, like I dove deep into YouTube videos when I started playing golf, but it's, it's one of those things where it's like you've got to be self aware to understand if things don't work and don't travel down that path Right, and self awareness is key to understand who you are.

01:31:55.296 --> 01:32:01.546
You're just a soul golfer, though I mean I can't wait to be soulful and San Diego with you.

01:32:01.546 --> 01:32:02.797
It's a philosophy, golfer now.

01:32:02.818 --> 01:32:03.158
Two by fours.

01:32:03.158 --> 01:32:06.400
Cheers cheers bro.

01:32:07.877 --> 01:32:09.819
Yeah you know I will say.

01:32:09.819 --> 01:32:14.547
I will say this going back to my comment.

01:32:14.547 --> 01:32:19.925
You someone I think Joe said it about fittings being too expensive, or someone said it.

01:32:19.925 --> 01:32:28.180
I'll say this, going back to my previous comment about telling people that they need to improve their golf swing before getting fit.

01:32:28.180 --> 01:32:52.560
If you take that person's money and don't return their money because you tell them that that's fucked up Like I would not, like if I'm doing a whole hour fitting and I realize at the end that they're not going to break one 10 and they're swinging 12 degrees to the left, like yeah, at that point give them their money back and tell them to get better at golf and then come back and come back.

01:32:53.162 --> 01:33:12.186
Yeah, get some lessons and come back because, like the way I see it, like even for myself talking you know, I look back at my round that I played on Saturday at County Springs and even though I had the eight birdies, I still had two doubles and two bogeys.

01:33:12.186 --> 01:33:28.623
Like there's always room to improve every round and that's what I try to teach the people that are trying to learn this game and get into the eighties and into the seventies, even into the nineties, like there's got to you got to understand.

01:33:28.623 --> 01:33:35.024
Like it's people don't understand is going to take a lot of work to break a hundred, to break 90, to break 80.

01:33:35.024 --> 01:33:40.180
I mean, joe went through that shit, matt's going through that, he's broken 80 several times.

01:33:40.180 --> 01:33:46.109
And that self awareness you're talking about.

01:33:46.149 --> 01:33:50.301
People need to be self aware that if you really want to improve in this game you have to work at it.

01:33:50.301 --> 01:33:51.945
You have to work at it.

01:33:51.945 --> 01:34:05.762
It's not going to happen from watching good, good or any of those guys like that's pure entertainment, like they're getting better at golf is actual work and that should excite you if you like this game on any level.

01:34:05.762 --> 01:34:12.881
Yeah, like, don't get discouraged because you have to work a lot You're going to get discouraged about everything else in life because you got to work.

01:34:12.881 --> 01:34:15.055
Yeah, you know.

01:34:15.055 --> 01:34:25.627
So, when it comes to getting better at this game, that's my two senses Like learn from somebody that you can know and trust to help you build a good golf swing.

01:34:25.627 --> 01:34:31.707
Then, once you build a good golf swing, it's like a chip off the block.

01:34:31.707 --> 01:34:32.136
You got to.

01:34:32.136 --> 01:34:33.521
It's a never ending block.

01:34:33.521 --> 01:34:35.876
You got to keep chipping away at it, you know.

01:34:35.876 --> 01:34:39.405
And then the minute, the minute you find huge.

01:34:43.582 --> 01:34:46.387
I've been chipping away at that motherfucker for so damn long.

01:34:46.387 --> 01:34:49.059
My knife is dull, my back is hurt.

01:34:50.737 --> 01:34:53.060
You got the nub like the end of the shower.

01:34:53.060 --> 01:34:58.921
Yeah, I'm still digging yeah, anyway, that's my, that's my two cents on self.

01:35:00.518 --> 01:35:03.445
Hey, we don't have a no golf tournament this week.

01:35:03.445 --> 01:35:13.807
The fall series is on hiatus until after the Ryder Cup, which is in two weeks, so I don't know if the DP World Tour has anything going on this weekend.

01:35:13.807 --> 01:35:16.940
But they play like 50 weeks a year.

01:35:16.940 --> 01:35:20.020
Yeah, they don't quit, they're, they're relentless.

01:35:20.041 --> 01:35:20.481
That's cool.

01:35:20.481 --> 01:35:23.908
I mean places they play all over the world.

01:35:23.908 --> 01:35:27.283
So yeah, it's cool, to be honest.

01:35:27.725 --> 01:35:32.064
You think about it, you're traveling a different country every week playing a golf tournament.

01:35:32.064 --> 01:35:33.699
It's pretty damn cool, though.

01:35:33.699 --> 01:35:37.344
Uh, everybody, thank you so much for tuning in.

01:35:37.344 --> 01:35:42.806
Trey, thanks for hopping on, kind of filling in for Jeremy while he's ill and under the weather.

01:35:42.806 --> 01:35:44.698
I'll be, back next week.

01:35:44.698 --> 01:35:45.240
Ryder Cup.

01:35:45.240 --> 01:35:48.302
Is that a week after that?

01:35:48.302 --> 01:35:50.256
So we got, isn't it?

01:35:50.256 --> 01:35:51.137
Is it next weekend?

01:35:52.319 --> 01:35:52.680
Yeah.

01:35:52.841 --> 01:35:54.783
It's not this weekend, it's two weeks yeah.

01:35:54.903 --> 01:35:58.889
Yeah, cool, I thought it was this weekend we're going to be next weekend.

01:35:59.449 --> 01:36:04.987
Next weekend, um, yeah, uh, hit up my Venmo.

01:36:04.987 --> 01:36:06.079
I put it on the screen.

01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:08.443
I'll post it in the show notes for Wednesday for people.

01:36:08.443 --> 01:36:13.565
Um, it's no talking about for the, uh, the so high thing here.

01:36:13.565 --> 01:36:13.987
It is right here.

01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:16.969
Yeah, I already paid for mine.

01:36:16.969 --> 01:36:17.954
I already paid for mine.

01:36:17.954 --> 01:36:20.720
I see you're good, I wasn't going to miss that.

01:36:21.354 --> 01:36:22.139
No, no, no, no.

01:36:22.139 --> 01:36:23.315
Um.

01:36:23.315 --> 01:36:31.208
So yeah, 20 bucks, throw your name in the hat and uh, we'll have the live drawing uh in a couple of weeks, and that's it.

01:36:32.395 --> 01:36:33.997
Put something on Instagram I can share.

01:36:34.538 --> 01:36:37.524
Yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'm going to put it everywhere, I'm going to put it everywhere.

01:36:37.685 --> 01:36:38.707
So sounds good.

01:36:39.027 --> 01:36:39.547
Check that out.

01:36:39.547 --> 01:36:42.002
Um oh Trey, we're King of the Greens coming up too.

01:36:42.002 --> 01:36:43.920
We were going to do it at Angel Park, on the putting course.

01:36:44.721 --> 01:36:45.103
Sweet.

01:36:45.503 --> 01:36:47.376
Yeah, so All right, Joe.

01:36:47.376 --> 01:36:49.804
Uh, bring us home with your bad self.

01:36:50.657 --> 01:36:51.661
Yo, thanks for tuning in.

01:36:51.661 --> 01:36:54.814
Chasing day of that podcast Uh, next week's going to be pretty dope.

01:36:54.814 --> 01:36:56.646
Uh, we got Ryder Cup coming up.

01:36:56.646 --> 01:37:00.363
Me and Trey are going out to Sandy, You're going to play in the King collective Uh, the kingdom.

01:37:00.363 --> 01:37:01.900
I can't wait for that.

01:37:01.980 --> 01:37:02.523
Oh we can?

01:37:02.956 --> 01:37:05.520
Uh, we're playing wood drivers, so it's going to be fun.

01:37:06.195 --> 01:37:07.440
I'm taking a three wood baby.

01:37:08.715 --> 01:37:09.899
I finally found a set.

01:37:09.899 --> 01:37:11.604
Shout out Mike Tyson, I know he listens.

01:37:11.604 --> 01:37:13.841
Uh, thank you for the borrow of your clubs.

01:37:13.841 --> 01:37:18.163
Uh, but until then, we'll see you next week and Ryder Cup's coming up.

01:37:18.163 --> 01:37:19.587
Shout out to you the Gala on the wind.

01:37:19.587 --> 01:37:53.412
Um, we'll see you then later, later, oh, oh you.

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