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What is up everybody?
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Welcome to another episode of the chasing daylight podcast.
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Those of you on YouTube right now.
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Thank you so much for tuning in.
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You'll see a new face see up there.
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That is Dan Hodges.
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Dan, the man Hodges has agreed to come on to the show and be our fourth.
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We have a foursome is complete now.
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I said on what I say on threads earlier today the negotiations were long, brutal, overwhelming, but yeah, we landed them.
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So, dan, welcome to the show, sir thank you, thank you, guys, for adding me to your group so Dan is we promise it will get better.
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This is his.
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He's doing this from his phone sounded like a robot.
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Thanks for having me there will be some glitches, but yes, so I wanted to bring.
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Dan on.
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He's been hanging out with us for many, many years.
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It goes back to we met him at legends never die.
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Just out of the blue, he joined and came out and played and, yeah, we found out quickly that he is a stick.
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He can absolutely play golf, is many times over champion of the VGN, known for his major victories.
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So, dan, why don't you let everybody know a little bit about yourself, how long you've been in Vegas for and what?
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What's, what's your golf jam?
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yeah, and let's hear the Colombian drug lord story no Colombian drug lord.
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But yeah, grew up.
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Grew up starting playing golf really early, been introduced to the game by my dad five, six years old, fell in love with it from there played my whole entire junior golf career down there, moved here to Vegas in 1999 so I've actually lived longer here in Vegas than I ever did in California, but still continued playing golf, catting at Bears Best for a while, met a guy who was super loaded.
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He helped me kind of achieve a little bit of my dream as far as playing playing some tour events, many tour events, and traveling to play golf.
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Didn't have to work for about three years and he just kind of, you know, wrote the road like checks to me.
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So that was kind of that was kind of cool and unfortunately reality, you know, set in after a while and had to come back to Vegas and get a real job and still playing golf, still love it.
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And you know, now I'm part of the VGN with you guys yeah, another reason I wanted to bring you in because you travel a lot.
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Joe is travels a lot now, he's Mr Golf Trip and you guys have your own little private chat where you talk about all the trips you're gonna go on and not inviting any of us to so, but you know we're going, we're all going to banded next year.
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You know we just played this past weekend at Rio.
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We played Black Desert, and so it was just a very fitting thing to bring somebody else on that is as passionate as we are about the game, loves to play, loves to travel, loves all the aspects of it and yeah, so again, welcome to the show thank you, thanks guys, it's it's pretty cool, thank you.
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There's no and there's no secret golf chat, it's just.
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It just, it happens out of nowhere.
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I have, actually I've received invitations but I've declined, it may not anymore.
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Yes, yes yes, that's 100% you see a picture and you're like, yep, yeah why is?
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that the ultimate boys trip for on and up for courses under $100.
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And then you get hooked and XCN sending, sending these things to jail and in two days later there's a trip being planned.
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So it's just, it's a domino that's exactly what happens.
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That's it that's hilarious, all right.
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So on this week's show and cover some things we're gonna talk about.
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We've got a round in it.
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Tpc Las Vegas.
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We all played Rio Seco on Sunday.
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We got a VGN tournament this weekend out of Ali Ante.
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Yonah Wilson was just in the US women's amateur.
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I'm unfortunately not going to sleepy hollow for the US mid-am this year.
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Swing changes for me, so Andrew's in it but I'm not, I'm not going but he's he, so he's not in it.
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He's not in it now, okay some swing changes brought along some bag changes for me, yeah, yeah.
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So we'll be talking about that and let's see the PGA tour playoffs just the first round wrapped up.
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Top 30 advanced.
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We got some notables who aren't gonna, who are on the cusp of missing out on the finals.
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So I want to start off with TPC Vegas.
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Gotta invite to go out there with our boy, matt Plummer.
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I, you know, have been hesitant to go there because that they've really jacked up the rates, even for locals.
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I think it's a great layout, great course, great facilities.
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There's not a lot wrong with it other than the price.
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But you know, hey, you got a nice course right now, this time of the way the economy is going, they're gonna get as much as they can.
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So but they had their, the TPC interclub, where all the TPC clubs have a tournament, and they hosted it at TPC Vegas.
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And that was a couple days prior to when we played and the course was in phenomenal condition.
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I mean absolutely perfect golf course conditions.
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The greens were a little beat up, a lot of pitch marks, but bunkers were fantastic, the fairways were excellent, the T boxes were great, the greens were fast and it was.
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It was a really, really good time.
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So I mean, if you want to book now, it's probably worth the price, because the conditions are just stupid and you're gonna have the overseas coming up here soon.
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Pretty sure they're doing an overseas there.
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So if you, if you want to play some really great condition golf right now, head out to.
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TPC Vegas Sean was telling me that during like the week, like Monday through Thursday, it's 125 for locals, which is, I would say, that's a good deal.
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For sure I mean obviously weekends you're gonna get you, it's gonna get more pricey yeah, the 175 is a hefty price tag, especially for me.
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I used to play for I used to be able to walk on for 40 $50 when I worked up there and it's hard to drop it's hard.
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It's very difficult for me to be like, yeah, I'm gonna pay $200 to play TPC Las Vegas, when I, four years ago, I was paying $40.
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It's hard to do.
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It's a great course.
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I love the place, probably one of the the best courses that I used to play pretty often and it's I mean.
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But it like it goes back to the green fees and the influx of new golfers and it's like people are willing to pay whatever they need to play pay to play golf and the.
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The recession is coming and the great reset is happening soon reset.
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Bring it on we need the great reset.
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But it's a great place, but it's it's very difficult to for me to pay $175 yeah, I mean, if we were to want to hold a VG internment out, there would be a $300 entry fee yeah, yeah.
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I mean which is?
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just crazy, but it's a great spot, it's a great course, you know there's.
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You know John Daly has a low score out there, I think.
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I mean there's some stuff out there that's kind of cool and the champions tour, or PG senior tour, whatever you want to call it now.
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They used to host an event out there back when it was called TPC Canyons.
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It was part of the rotation for the Las Vegas invitation a couple times, so it's a good course and it's always in good shape, but it's it's expensive it was in really good shape, like I was like, wow, this is pretty freaking awesome.
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I mean, if I was an out of towner?
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I mean obviously out of towners aren't getting that 175 rate at TPC Las Vegas, but no, the out of town rate at Paiute is probably close to that.
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I mean, you weigh that I'd probably rather go to Paiute personally if I was visiting.
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Yeah, but that's got the TPC name so people think that hey yo yep, yep, yep.
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Okay, so you need to hit us up when you come to town.
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We'll let you know reasons to tune in.
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So Rio Seco I you know what.
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I was kind of surprised I I expected it to be in a little bit better shape than what it was.
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There was some kind of rough spots in the fairways, but I thought the I and what other than that?
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I thought the course was really really good, dan, let's get your.
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Let's get your first assessment of a golf course that we recently played.
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Tell the people what you think.
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I, I was actually, I thought it was in good shape the rough out there.
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There are some spots out there where, oh my god, I mean, it doesn't matter if you have a wedge or you know, whatever you have in your hand.
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If you don't, if you don't strike it right, that ball is going nowhere.
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And and fortunately, I can I tell the?
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spots?
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Yes, exactly, I was in a couple of spots a couple days ago, and other than that, though, I thought.
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I thought it was in good shape, the greens were healthy, they were in good shape, they were in the has to speak to them a little firm.
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You know, full, full shots would be received in the green pretty well, but any chip in you gotta pick, yeah.
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I was, I was surprised to hear Trey.
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I surprised to hear Trey say that he thought the greens were slow the whole group said that, though Colby said that I don't hear that I heard that from from Colby and Trey slow.
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I didn't think they were slow at all no, I didn't think so, hmm.
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I mean the the greens at.
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TBC Vegas were probably running 13's, maybe 13 and a half, so they were fast and I thought Brillo was 11-12's.
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Yeah, 1011.
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All right 1011, 12.
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I didn't think they were slow.
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I didn't think they were slow at all.
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I thought they were like the right pace.
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They were perfect speed.
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Yeah, yeah, you don't lose control.
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I mean, there's a few where we ran them by, but when you're above the hole.
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I didn't feel nervous that it was going to run 10 feet by, like some places, but they're okay, they're good.
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Yeah, it's a fun layout.
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It's a fun layout.
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It's a fun layout.
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It's a fun layout.
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It's one of my favorite in town the range.
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They've done a really good job, the way they've improved everything.
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Range attendants or the card attendants were a little snippety in the morning.
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You know range is closed, Range isn't open yet and I'm like, well shit, we tee up in 15 minutes.
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What the hell.
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Well, they typically don't expect people to tee in off at 6.30, to shove it 4.30 in the morning either.
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So hey, calm down, I was there.
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Good grief, sean was there before me.
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Is that what you sleep here?
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He wakes up at 3.30 every day.
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He had an hour drive to get there too.
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Yeah, true.
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But speaking of the rough spots, I think most of the rough spots that you're mentioning were kind of in the low like drainage areas for the most part that I saw.
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So Well, I was just surprised that there was some where I saw them at, if that makes sense.
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It just it might have been a couple yeah.
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It just seemed like there was some areas that that look bad, that you know it could be.
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Hey, the summer grass is done and they're.
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Hey, we're not going to bring it back for a month before we, you know, oversee the place, so let's just let it go.
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I can see that happening.
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Yeah.
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Like the entire Lexington golf course right now.
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Yeah, the rough was insane.
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I feel like like lately the courses we've been playing and I've been playing at, the rough has just been thick everywhere.
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I think the wet spring we had and early summer caused that, because that's this is the first time.
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Usually, if you want long rough, you go to like Arroyo or even Paiute sometimes gets that thick rough.
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Everywhere has it now.
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To wait till you play Allianz Saturday.
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I've never seen rough there.
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It's it's a panel it's it's a penalty stroke.
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I thought Rio's was a penalty stroke, because yeah 100% it's the same way.
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100% it's almost the same.
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Grass A little bit, not so much Bermuda Bermuda is that a word?
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But yeah, it's, it's a penalty stroke.
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It's because you cannot I don't care who you are, it's.
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It's very tough to get out of that shit.
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Yeah, it was just kind of like an each year medicine type of situation and just you know, punch out real quick and then get on with your day, because it was.
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It was like sitting up but it was sitting down and it was just kind of like like I saw I had one where I was like, oh, this is going to fly, because it was sitting up on it and it's like, no, but that's probably me, because I really hit it fat as fuck and it just died.
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That was beyond on six.
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It was in the rough off the tee and I knew I was 180 yards out.
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I'm like I know I'm not going to get this here, I'm just going to try and muscle it up there and uh, oh my God, it like it felt like I hit a wall with the club.
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It just didn't go through the grass at all.
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It just stopped.
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Yeah, I mean so for for you guys, like how do you judge?
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I mean you have to judge your lie right.
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Like we hear the players talk about all the time on tour like judging or lie.
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In that type of situation, like I mean, how do you judge that?
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Like, if it looks like it's sitting up, like how do you hit that?
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What do you?
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What do you think about?
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Like I had that one that looked like a flyer to me and it just died.
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So there were some that I had where you look at the ball looks like it's sitting down in the rough and then you put your club by it and your club is lower than the ball, is lower than the ball.
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So there's a ton of those and I'm a sweeper.
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So those were.
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Those weren't as bad, but the ones that are really deep.
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I try to get steep, which is hard for me because I'm not a steep.
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My swinging plane is not steep, but I try to get as steep as possible and just pop it up.
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Dan, you're really good at that.
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You hit several good shots the rest of the ball.
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So yeah, I don't do well out of that sweeping.
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Yeah, so it just really depends on the lie.
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I think you know, if it sits down, I try to go attack a little bit more.
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If it sits up, or if it's like going with the rough you're going to, you know, I've got to expect to jump a little bit.
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It's hard to gauge the jumpers though, because, like on our very first hole, I had 110 yards in, I hit a 54 degree and almost hit the street, and so, yeah, remember that yeah.
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You know that was, that was a 30 yard miscalculation.
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So you know, sometimes you just got to get lucky.
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You know, either it doesn't fly or club down, and hopefully you guessed right here.
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Yeah, I remember.
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I remember that one.
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I was like whoa shit fucking fluid, but I did the same shit and I was in a fairway so.
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Yeah, and I did these opposite.
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I came up short.
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What a game.
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What a game that was.
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That was my day.
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It's like one more way.
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The pros, the pros, I mean it's so impressive to see the the tour players because every week they play a course with different types of grass and different rough Right, and I'm sure they remember things about courses.
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You know they get jumpers out of this grass or they don't get the berry in this one.
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But for them to be able to adapt every single week, especially when these guys like these, the FedEx Cup you know the playoffs every single top players playing every week for three weeks and every course is different, and it's crazy how they can adapt and still score well out of different types of conditions.
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I wonder how deep those guys like go into like the agronomy of things, like like some of the players got to go pretty deep like diving deep into like grass and agronomy.
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Doesn't Tiger have three or four different grasses in his backyard?
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I think so, yeah, but like, how far, how deep does the like average tour player go with grass?
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And how much do they actually understand on, like the thickness of blades, on whatever the grass is, you know?
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Like do they wickipedia it before?
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I mean, that's the interesting thing, like if we could talk to Harry about that, like to understand how deep he goes into a course that he's never played like.
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Does he go as far down into the hole, like on the grass itself?
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Well, Dan Dan, how, how deep did you go when you were playing courses on the main tours, or did you just show?
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Up and light it up.
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Well, I didn't really light it up a whole lot, but yeah, I just pretty much just showed up and played.
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I didn't really didn't really have.
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You know, those guys are privy to getting to the course early and then playing a couple of practice rounds and all that stuff and spending all day out there.
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I didn't have that.
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I was more like, you know, go check out the course like the day before for a couple hours and then show up and get ready to go.
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You know, so I also feel too, like a lot of their caddies take on that responsibility.
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Maybe, you know, they go around, scope out the course, really get in deep, you know, just so they can take a little bit out of the mind of their player and just let them golf.
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You know, so they don't have to think about oh, I kind of like that.
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You know, they just get out there, give them their number, you know, go.
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I think the caddies do, on tour, do a big job of really getting into the roots and getting into the details of how the course is going to play.
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But as far as me know, I just kind of showed up, you just soul golfed it.
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Huh yeah, I just kind of winged it.
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There was a I can't remember who it was, but I saw I think last year on golf channel they were showing it might have been a major someone's caddy was out there and he actually had like a wedge with him and he was dropping balls in the rough and just hitting like chip shots out, hitting full shots.
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It was interesting.
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I never saw that, but I think there's some caddies are probably a lot more into that than others.
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Yeah, you know you also have your pros out there that are nerds.
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You know, like Phil, you remember that one interview where you're talking about the wedges flying in the grass and do in the morning.
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You know there's kind of be some pros out there that have that stuff on lock, how much percent he's taken off a trajectory and a 45 degree weather, with dew and a blade of grass that's bending to the right and sun hasn't hit it yet.
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Exactly, exactly.
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And they know, you know, because a lot of these courses they're repetitive, they play in the year after year after year, and they play during certain times of the year and during certain seasons, so they already kind of remember from the year prior.
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I remember this, when it was like a little dewy in the morning, we kept, you know, this ball was knuckling out of here, we couldn't get any spin on them or flying them, you know.
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So I think a lot of that plays in there too.
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Yeah, interesting.
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All right.
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So we got the VGN tournament this week.
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It's.
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It sucks.
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Dan hasn't been able to play a lot this year because he's had a lot of going on at work, but I mean, you're still you're still really close to the top and the point standing, so it's not like you're taking a beating, jeremy, though.
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Jeremy's coming for you, though, but we got 48 players going to be teaming it up Saturday morning, kind of a little.
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730 am shotgun and I'm surprised.
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I really thought we were going to get more people for this one.
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It's, you know, kind of a chorus that the North people of North of the Valley really like, and did not get some of those guys to show up for it.
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And you know, it is what it is but I think it's going to be a good day.